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#GIRL WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT#they were like did his other atrocities really make it so he deserved to die uwu#we can go into the semantics of whether or not anybody Deserves to die all we want but like#lets not forget that jgy did many like genuinely horrible things#they were also like why did wwx go after killing him when jgy never really wronged him#uuuh are we forgetting that he played a huge hand in the torture of the wen remnants#in the campaign for the remaining ones death#in taking advantage of wn and killing wq#in orchestrating wwxs demise at nevernight and egging the public on to hate him and turn him into a scapegoat#that wwx was Bound to mxy to kill jgy#like. what are you Talking abt#maybe you don't think jgy deserved to die and thats your hot take and thats fine#but saying wei killed a bunch of wen soldiers in cruel and unusual ways as revenge for the massacre of lotus pier wuxian#would have any to object to jgys death#maybe he had matured past revenge post res#but he DID have reason to be against jgy#even before finding out he had a part in nevernight#like. the jins persecuted the wen remnants and wwx would have known that included jgy#anyway.#also I agree w part of the conversation being does Anybody deserve to die and what does that mean and who gets to make that choice#I think thats a good point and a good conversation in relation to the themes of the text#but to say that jgy did not inflict harm on certain characters#in a way where their desire to seek revenge does not make sense or illicit sympathy#is foolish#ghost posts#text#jgy#nhs#nmj
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Hi! can i ask you lance with a very motherly s/o? thank you
Ā You're my first ask! Thank you so much @marytheredqueen!
I was originally planning on posting headcanons in a few days regarding Lance and how growing up as an orphan effected him and his relationships in the long-term, so I'll add in headcanons about how growing up without his mother specifically effected him as well š
~Headcanons under the cut because these are long as always~
Growing up without a mother:
Oh boy
This is major ouch factor
Almost too much to explain
I said āalmostā, notĀ āit isā
And bear with me, really, because this is SO LONG
Lance and Valkyon were born in a volcano; hatched from dragon eggs and then lived in a nearby village until the time they decided to leave (based on what Lance said in Origins episode 26). Thereās very little detail about the specific events, but itās known that Lance was able to charm a lot of people at a very young age with his strength and self-confidence. Itās also known that he learned about and practiced his dragon powers beginning at a very young age while Valk never participated. Itās unknown if they told the villagers where they were from, how they were found and if they could even talk when they were taken in, but it seems that the villagers never knew about their heritage
Lance was raised by this village, everyone took part in teaching and caring for him and his brother. They knew everyone, played with all the kids, learned lessons from everyone. It was well known that they were orphans, but nobody thoughtĀ āwell, theyāre not my kids so I wonāt worry about themā. Lance and Valk literally had a village to raise them. They learned a lot of general things because of this, from people working all different types of jobs, so therefore Lance is well-versed (roughly because itās a distant memory, but itās still there) in a lot of general aspects of life. Heās pretty self-sufficient.
However, he had a villageĀ to raise him, and while everyone took care of him, nobody was his mother figure.
At first Lance wasnāt entirely sure why other kids had a mother and why he didnāt. Were him and his brother abandoned? He found it very endearing, but overall strange, that one specific male and female took care of certain kids when the whole village could raise them all together, like with him and his brother. Over time, he learned social constructs better and began to understand more that his case was a special one.
Lance realized then that he and his brother could have had the same things the other kids had. He could have had an actual home instead of floating between houses, he could have had an actual adult to cook meals for him each night, who would learn his specific tastes over time and treat him as a major priority. He began to learn that he couldĀ have had a mature figure to rely on when he felt sad, scared, overwhelmed or lost. Everything that he was providing for Valk, he could have had as well, with someone who had more knowledge about life and their heritage. In a way, Lance felt a bit lost. He had to think of everythingĀ when he was growing up, because while he did have the villagers to teach him lots of basics, he never had one specific adult that he could really connect to and ask all his really important questions to.
Lance began to realize what heād been missing. He watched the interactions between child and mother more, and saw how safe and happy the kids looked, and then realized that he would neverĀ feel the safe, warm embrace of a mother who would love him unconditionally and without question.
And then he realized that his relationship with the villagers, while nice, could never truly fulfill his biological need to have a mother
Suddenly he had a painful hole in his chest every day
But he kept moving on, because he had been fine so far without
He was sad and disappointed by the fact that he would never experience having a mother, but he realized that he at least had the villagers to give him the basic skills in life. It wasnāt the same, but it could have been worse.
So he grew more, watched out for Valk and worked hard for every scrap of reward he gained in life. He came from humble beginnings.
But one day he felt a bit different, and by the end of the week he realized he had specific abilities that none of the other villagers seemed to have.
He decided to practice with these abilities, learn how they work, as he must have gained them from his heritage and, therefore, theyāre the only part of his parents that heāll possibly ever know. He kept it a secret, realizing that his powers could be used in many ways, hoping to someday surprise the villagers and defend them in their darkest hours; to show them that something good became of him because they helped him.
And then he learned about whatĀ his heritage is
Talking to a village elder, he realized that his powers aligned perfectlyĀ with the legendary dragons, so he inquired about what happened to them. Realizing their noble downfall, he learned the first thing about his mother and his people that would stay with him forever. He now aspired to make them proud, even if they werenāt with him.
Lance took to harsh training after that. Staying up late into the night, practicing all that heās learned about basic life skills, but also alchemy, spells, rituals, and his abilities. He never told anyone his heritage, and he urged Valk to keep it a secret, too; you never know what dangers could lurk around two young, inexperienced dragons if the world knew about their heritage. However, Lance still practiced heavily, and the first time he managed a successful transformation into his dragon form, while messy and very tiring, he felt as thought some part of him was right. He finally felt closer to his family. But the effects of not having a mother would always stick with him
Time passed. Lance and Valkyon found the Guard of El, and Lance found a very comfortable position as Chief of the Obsidian Guard. He was one of the leaderās right-hand-men, nearly indestructible, the greatest warrior in the guard and the protector of the good and innocent. He was proud of himself, Valk was proud for him, he had everything, could have any woman, everyone loved him. It was the village but better, because he could uphold and defend what his family, his people, his motherĀ had sacrificed themselves for.
And then reality hit him hard
He discovered a horrible truth; him and his brother werenāt the last surviving dragons, and the guard was hunting them down
Now beemoov never specifies anythingĀ of how Lance found out, why there were surviving dragons when allegedly all of them sacrificed to create Eldarya, etc. but I have a headcanon of my own on how he found out (and frankly his whole past in general). It deviates a bit from canon but at least itās a nearly full backstory (Iāll write about it if anyone requests it)
So when Lance found out this truth he never felt more grateful that he decided to keep his heritage a secret. And he pressed Valk to keep it a secret even more, in fear that his brother may not take him seriously.
This discovery turned Lance around. Suddenly he was feeling sick to his stomach. He felt blind. Were his people angry at him for defending the people who live within the realm they created? Possibly. After all, they all fought each other. He felt lonely again; and he didnāt have his mother to guide or hold him in this time of fear.
Lance began to realize that he was looking through rose colored glasses. He began to realize that few people acknowledged the dragonsā sacrifice anymore, and instead the point of the guard was to shove their nose in othersā problems, problems that hurt each other after the dragons sacrificed to keep them safe, and the guard seemed to use violence at times as a solution to these already-violent issues.
Ok, Iāve been deviating from the original idea of growing up without a mother, but I promise this is important.
Lance felt disrespected at this realization; for his people, for his parents. How dare they destroy each other when the dragons sacrificed themselves to avoid that?
How dare he help them in that by acting for the guard?
Suddenly his motherās sacrifice seemed worthless
Suddenly he grew up without a mother for nothing
Suddenly he was no longer noble, like his people, because he was helping to hurt the people the dragons died for
His whole life - screwed up from the beginning and left lonely and scared with so much responsibility - was for absolutely nothing.
He couldnāt stay there anymore, and he couldnāt look at himself anymore
He faked his death, and decided that the crystal had to be dealt with, and so the long, lonely road driven by hurt, loneliness and a desire for revenge began, because certainly the fairies of Eldarya no longer deserved the precious gift of life from the dragons. They did nothing but hurt each other, so why did they deserve it now?
And he wasnāt afraid to die in this quest if it guaranteed his success, because after helping the fairies in their destruction, he didnāt deserve the gift of life from the dragons, his people, his mother, either.
And then it got worse
Instead of succeeding, he took away the last of his family that he had
Suddenly he realized how much the gift of life is worth
Suddenly the hole in his heart, opened first long ago when he realized he would never have a mother, re-opened from the ice that froze it over for his sake
He realizes now, that just because he felt he had a valid point, he ended up worse than the fairies of Eldarya. None of them killed their own family in their own ambitions, none of them sought to destroy Eldarya. They fought to protect their families and people, like him, but theyĀ didnāt kill their own family
He resigns, numb from shock that he could ever do such a thing on impulse, and allows himself to be taken prisoner
He asks only one thing - he wants to help bury his brother. Maybe it will provide closure and begin the path to some sort of change from what just happened
No? Well... itās not like he deserves that honor anyways
The take-away from this whole spiel is that Lance grew up with a tragic past and it all snowballed into a lashing out of anger and disappointment upon realizing one fact, and this could have been very different if he had a mother. He would have had a closer relationship with others, he would have known how to nurture others better, how to possibly work through his emotions better rather than jumping into different situations immediately because he feels a certain way. He missed out on many vital life lessons that he should have learned, but didnāt. And while a village to take care of a child is nearly always beneficial, the child still needs itās parents. A village is not a substitute for parents, itās an extra teacher.
Due to this, Lance will always be different from others. He hadĀ to be self-sufficient, he hadĀ to take care of his brother, he hadĀ to be the rock, he hadĀ to be curious. It was the only way he could truly assure his and his brotherās survival, because they needed to be prepared in case the villagers decided to make them leave. Why? Who knows, but they didnāt have their parents, so clearly they could alwaysĀ lose everything they have, even when what they have is so little
Overall, I believe Lance is very smart, professional and strives to be better everyday, especially in A New Era, but heāll never truly grasp the understanding of having close personal relationships. He can hang out with others, have a bit of a laugh, but heāll never really rely on anyone, heāll always have a back-up plan, a second way out. In a way, heās always planning for the possibility that everything could fall apart and be taken from him, even things that he never knew he had or should have, so heāll always be distanced from everyone. He can play the part ofĀ āperfect Chief of Obsidian and greatest warriorā, but he will always have a hard time understanding how to maintain a close relationship, because the only person he was ever actually close with was Valkyon, and heās gone now
Perhaps if he had his mother as a guide, a teacher, a brick house in the storm of life, he would have perceived things differently and things never would have ended up like this
Lance with a very motherly partner:
i proMISE THIS WONāT BE AS LONG AS THE FIRST HEADCANON
Firstly I want to give a quick overview of what I perceive to be aĀ āvery motherlyā S/O - Being motherly suggests that someone acts upon maternal instincts, and maternal instincts differ from person to person. However, seeing as this ask requests a veryĀ motherly S/O, Iām taking a lot of the major aspects about maternal instincts, and what is typically seen in a mother and a motherly S/O, and writing them all within one person. So while there are many motherly partners and people, many of them are motherly in specific ways and are a bit less so in other ways, but again; very motherly S/O = putting as many major points as possible into one person. I originally wanted to write specific traits under their own bullets, but they just merge so much with each other to the point that itās easier to just describe the general relationship. Hopefully readers who love Lance find a bit of themselves within some of the traits that I provideĀ š
Lance didnāt originally intend to get this attached. He enjoyed her company, found it endearing that she worried about him despite his past actions, and found it even more endearing and amusing that she worried about him getting hurt on missions (you know, heās known as the best warrior in the guard for a reason). However, something about how she treated him struck a chord in him. The villagers he grew up with were never this worried about him... they always just let him do his thing without much bothering. But her... she brought back to surface a deep chasm of mixed emotions that he thought he had forgotten. He realized in time that, while he likes when others depend on him and look up to him, itās also quite nice for himĀ to have a bit of a break. He begins to notice that he spends so much time trying to provide for others that he forgets to take care of himself sometimes. Suddenly it felt nice to have someone look out for him. He spent so long alone, without his brother and with no one to watch his back, that he realized having a close companion is something that he craves.
And this scares him
Heāll withdraw a bit, try to press the fact that she doesnāt need to worry about him. Heāll be fine, heāll survive, heās been through worse, but she wonāt have any of it. Heās so used to allowing himself to live only the basics in life that when she begins to tug him into trying to enjoy and appreciate his life a bit more, it startles him a bit. How does he do that? Does he deserve it? He doesnāt really think he does, or can. So he gets a bit irritated every now and again, his personality bristles a bit as he tries to stress that she shouldnātĀ worry about him. He doesnāt mean to be prickly towards her, but itās just so hard for him to accept that she wants to offer something the he lived just fine without.
He softens in time, begins to wonder why she wants to offer care to him. He comes to her one night and questions her; her motives, her thoughts, her feelings
She explains that itās just who she is - she worries - about everyone. Sheās a caretaker, she wants to help provide, to help heal, and he doesnāt do a very good job at hiding the fact that heās in pain...
He softens upon realizing that sheās like this with everyone - it makes sense now - and is then disappointed at the fact that she treats him the same as she treatsĀ everyone
Just like the villagers...
It strikes a painful chord in him again, but heās more comfortable at least understanding her reasoning now... but he notices subtle differences in time...
She seems to check in on him more-often than she does with the others. She tells him to be careful on missions and stresses that she doesnāt want him to get hurt. She worries about every little thingĀ to the point where he needn't bother worrying because she has it covered. When he does get a small wound, or in the rare case he falls ill - but itās not enough to send him to the Infirmary - sheāll move herself into his room to take care of him. Sheāll try to be more included in his life and offer new subjects that she knows more on because she loves to teach him about things and she knows heās genuinely interested in learning new things
Lance realizes that he truly enjoys all of this - yes even her endless worrying and rants about how she told him to be careful
And when she tries to scold him in a fit of anger because she doesnāt approve of something?
Fucking adorable
He begins to realize that she seems to spend more time with him than with others, seems to worry about him more than she does the others, cares about him more than she does the others
So he asks her another night why sheās so adamant on this - why she feels the need to press all of this onto him instead of giving it to someone who will - almost for sure - be more responsive to this. After all, Lance doesnāt know how to react to this; why does she insist on doing all of this for him when heāll be fine anyways?
She admits that she enjoys his company, that providing moments of happiness during the day makes her happy as well, and that she admired his sturdiness in the whirlwind of life, but knows it can be tiring, and she enjoys being his safe place when he needs a break
āWell what if I donāt want to be fixed or protected or supported?ā
āThen why do you keep letting me care for you like this?ā
That stops him
And then he realized; he can find it irritating, annoying, and even overbearing at times, but he really enjoys having someone to care for him in a way that he should have had but never had
āI know you grew up without parents, and without someone to really take care of you, so I understand if my actions seem very strange to you, but this is what itās like to have someone watch out for you. I worry because I care for you...ā
But the look in her eyes, the way she speaks in a soft - affectionate - tone, and how she leans slightly towards him, almost looking ready to take a step towards him but hesitating, all tells him that while she may be a very motherly person, her feelings for him run deeper than just friendship.
āI worry because I care for you...āĀ and the more she cares the more she worries
The instant this all dawns on him, he finds one of his hands tangled in her hair, the other wrapped tightly around her small waist to leave as little distance between them as possible, and his lips on hers in a harsh, desperate kiss that reflects all the things he wished he had but never could
Nobody ever offered to care for him like this, nobody ever opened their arms and gave him the opportunity to collapse into them in fatigue, so why should he push this away?
Itās then he realizes that heĀ told himself to control his impulses better.Ā Whoās to say she was alright with moving this quickly?
But she doesnāt push him away - she pulls him closer and lets him take her down onto the bed, and although she allows him to take the lead, they both know that heās the one basking in her presence
He begins to soften more in time. He begins to realize that instead of being irritated, itās better to listen to, accept, and diffuse her worries and concerns for him by reminding her that heās incredibly capable of taking care of himself because he has the knowledge and experience to do so - heāll do his best to come home safe. And when heās hurt or ill, he lets her help ease his suffering. Sheās forgiving with him, but still needsĀ to scold him and rant every now and again because she needs him to know that she really cares for him. He lets her into his life more, finds places to take her that will spark new conversations and listens intently
And over time, he notices he begins to pick up a few things from her. He tells her to be careful, expresses his worries to her, panics a bit upon finding out sheās in the Infirmary and then steels himself to prepare for the worst as he heads there to do what he can for her (although, unlike her, he doesnāt come bolting through the Infirmary door like a wild Black Dog before asking so many questions that one would wonder if heās interrogating her). And it comes to the point where one of the two doesnāt need to move into the otherās room for a few nights to care for them; they live together now.
He does this all because he knows better now that thatās what you do when you care for someone
However, as much as heās gotten used to the fact that his S/O can act very motherly about him - and has come to appreciate that he has someone who cares for him that much - he still hurts occasionally at the fact that he never had a mother. He never had the first caretaker that he shouldĀ have had
His partner recognizes this once in a while, when it seems like itās really bothering him again
āAre you ok?ā - silence -Ā āYou can talk to me, Iāll always be here to listen...ā - silence -Ā āYou donāt need to talk to me now if you donāt want, I understand, just know that Iāll listen if you need to talk it out.ā
His piercing blue gaze meets her kind eyes, a soft glint of a mournful smile on her face. She knows he has moments like these; where he thinks about everything he lost and everything he never had and needs to take a while to mourn it all again. But instead of looking away again, as he used to do...
āI wish I knew her... She seemed so taken by her emotions at times, like me, but somehow she still managed to make the right decisions through it all... I just wish I knew her, had her as a mother...ā
Silence
āI know no one could ever take her place, or teach you the full extent of what she could have taught you, but sheās still your mother. Sheāll love you no matter what, sheāll encourage you no matter what. She may not be able to tell you, you may not have been raised by your mother, but youāll alwaysĀ be her son and she willĀ always be your mother.ā
She hugs him, offers to make him a cup of hot tea and cuddle on their shared bed, and he doesnāt resist. He misses his mother, wishes he could know what she could have taught him, but as he settles on the bed and watches as his partner shuffles around, he realizes that his S/O is right. He has a mother, who does care for him, who does forgive him (hopefully, he canāt be sure), he just canāt see or talk with her
His S/O returns to his side, hands him the cup and lays against him, her shoulder resting on the headboard behind him as she wraps her arms around him and settles her head at his shoulder. He relaxes against her as she strokes his back, and it occurs to him that while he didnāt know his mother, she must have acted similar to this - caring for him and loving him unconditionally
It occurs to him that his motherly S/O could ease the pain and grief that he carried with him from the beginning, and itās her natural personality that does so
I donāt think that second headcanon was much shorter than the first one, but hey, this was written with Lance in mind and thereās not really a quick and easy way to explain Lance and his emotions lol.
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Weekly Recap | March 30-April 5
Out of self-isolation, woop woop! Also a first for me, thereās a podifc on the recap for the first time!
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šĀ [Podfic] If They Haven't Learned Your Name by quietnight/ @quietnightyāĀ (Post-WS | Podfic lenght: >10h | Not Rated):Ā aka Steve and Bucky's Global Honeymoon Revenge World Tour.
in the heat of the moment by Deisderium/ @deisderiumāĀ (ABO, Pre-TFA | 9K | Explicit):Ā In which Steve presents very late as an omega. Bucky isn't supposed to go see him, but when has he ever done what he was supposed to do where Steve is concerned? (Part 1 of would smell as sweet)
šĀ good on my own (needed me) by mcwhoĀ (Modern AU | 12K | Explicit):Ā There are some mistakes that could be made by anybody. Anybody. Bucky taught high school pretty much his whole life, and that was fine, those were kids, and he knew all of them anyway, which meant there was very little chance of him accidentally fucking any of his students during an impulsive post-marital-breakdown Grindr hook-up. Which is exactly what he had done with Steve.or: bucky has not let steve rogers fuck him since his sophomore year (Part 1 of himbo-verse)
cheffing and sabotage by mcwhoĀ (Modern AU | 3K | Explicit):Ā "So,ā Steve says conversationally. āThatās a yes on the olive oil. For lube purposes.āĀ Part 2 of himbo-verse
Brooklyn by togina/ @toli-aā (Post-WS | 8,7K | Teen):Ā "Captain America, what's your stance on gay marriage?" Everyone knows that, by now. Everyone but Bucky.
Poise and Rationality (Have Nothing to Do with Steve Rogers) by romanticalgirlĀ (Canon-verse | 1K | Teen):Ā Steve does something stupid.
š bullet in a gun (but in the end, my time will come) by voxofthevoid/ @voxofthevoidā (Post-Endgame, Canon-divergent | 25K | Explicit): Post-Thanos, Bucky Barnes has happily settled into a life of peace and pining. Thatās when alternate versions of the best friend heās secretly in love with start showing up.
š Two Colors, White and Gold by Carelica (Canon-Divergent | 36K | Explicit): Heās here, heās alive. His hand is on a tree.
Never go to bed alone when you have a library card by relenafanel/ @relenafanelāĀ (Library AU | 5K | Teen):Ā Tall, blond hottie (in a sweater) was back, staring at the wall of new and popular titles with a thoughtful expression on his face. He came in every Tuesday night like clockwork, read through the summaries on the back of a handful of books with his profile turned just enough towards the front entrance that Bucky could see the slope of his nose and take joy in watching those arm muscles minutely flex as he shifted the book in his grasp.
š Like itās the Only Thing Iāll Ever Do by howdoyousleep/ @howdoyousleep3ā (ABO AU | 39K | Explicit): When Steve opens the door, Bucky feels like heās been living in clouds for the past few days, maybe even his entire life. Steve is life, Steve is happiness, Steve is the sun. He has such a visceral reaction to seeing the Alpha that he feels his knees go weak, feels his body draw tight towards the other man, pulled in. Or big Alpha Steve moves into sweet little Omega Buckyās apartment building and a roller-coaster build of a romance ensues.
lay all your love on me by chilibabie07Ā (Canon | 1,4K | Mature):Ā Bucky wakes up to an empty bed and goes to look for Steve so he can be cuddled.
WIP
Baby, you could be the death of me by SinpaiCasanovaĀ (Werewolf Steve, ABO AU | 1/2 | 3K | Explicit):Ā Itās strange for him to consider that fate or the universeāwhatever is driving this compulsion, reallyāneeds Bucky here for some reason or another, but heās passed by these woods at least a thousand times before on his way into town, and each time his eyes drifted toward the trees, his heart would give a restless tug against his ribs like an excited dog on a leash. Eventually, the call became too much for him to ignore, and so here he is, surrendering himself to the woods and praying like hell that he doesnāt end up in the belly of a beast by daylight.
The Mnemosyne Project by onymousann (Post-WS | 11K | 4/? | Explicit): Someoneās trying to talk to the Winter Soldier. Steve intends to find out who. (Part 2 of ocean eyes)
šĀ How to Fuck With (and Feed) Your Soulmate by BlueSimplicity/ @bluesimplicity73ā (Soulmate AU, Shrunkyclunks | 11/? | 65K | Explicit):Ā Itās called the Grey Space; a patch of skin marking you as blessed and the first sign you have a soulmate. Steve Rogers didnāt have one when he crashed into the ice. But he did when he woke up in the future. The second sign is the Sense, a sharing of one the senses to help soulmates find each other. Steveās Sense, taste, is rare, but he loves a challenge and a soulmate is a gift from the Fates. Except instead of a blessing, itās a curse, since his soulmate is a dick. Bucky Barnes loves food and a homecooked meal is something he cherishes. When his Grey Space starts to itch, Bucky canāt help his excitement, since the Sense he and his soulmate share is taste. But not for long. Whoever heās bound to has the blandest diet in the world, ignoring all Buckyās messages. After weeks of putting up with tasteless food, Bucky decides to strike back.
Re-Read
We're All Stupid When We're Hurting by Taste_is_Sweet/ @taste-is-sweetāĀ (Post-WS | 8K | Teen):Ā Bucky had completed missions while in more terrible pain. It was amazing what you could push through when the punishment for failure was so much worse. But he hadn't needed to do that for over a year now. He'd gotten used to not being in pain, remembered what it was like to be human. He knew no one would ever put him in the chair again. He knew he was safe here. He knew Tony could fix his arm without hurting him. Of course he did. But it didn't make a damn bit of difference to the terror that shook him like a dog at just the thought of sitting down and stretching his arm out for Tony to fuck with. Might as well stretch out his neck to have his throat slit. Hell, that'd be easier.
šĀ we gotta let go of all of our ghosts by hitlikehammersĀ (Post-WS | 8K | Mature):Ā Itās just hard, really, if heās honest: this time, more than the first, here in a new millennium, having found Bucky again against all odds, in a time where there was hope, where they could have beenā¦ Well. Itās just that itās bad enough to come in second place to a Stark once in his lifetime. But twice might just be more than Steve can bear.
The thing that drives the wolves away by caughtinanocean/ @wintergaydarāĀ (Post-WS | 7,8K | Teen):Ā The thing about Bucky these days is that, while he might be a semi-mythical assassin, he's also vulnerableāthe kind of vulnerable that makes total strangers want to drape a blanket over his shoulders and take him to safety. The problem is, of course, that Bucky is already safe.
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Supernatural 15x16, Drag Me Away (From You) -- Overall Thoughts
I canāt believe weāre this late in the game and Iām still doing overall thoughts posts on this show instead of full-fledged reviews. I should be full swing reviewing and analyzing every detail, making predictions on what the endgame is going to entail...but I just canāt. This show just has not been giving me anything to really latch onto, itās not giving me material I want to review and write meta about. The Final Episodes are really just episodes that are just kind of there. A couple of nice things sprinkled throughout but ultimately, not really anything that leaves much of a lasting impression on me. Like, why is this show that is so important to me, why are my SPN posts starting to sound more and more like my Shadowhunters posts (a show I did not enjoy and was very happy was cancelled)? Why am I getting so apathetic towards this show? And why is it that with every episode Iām just getting more and more pissed off at Dean? Weāre in The Final Episodes; he should be getting better, not worse.Ā
But lets get on with this shall we? As always, Iām never too sure how spoilery Iām going to get when I write these posts so just a word of caution. Probably going to be spoilers. If you have plans to watch the episode yet and donāt want to be spoiled, probably skip this.Ā
Now, this episode was nice on the appreciation aspect that we get to see young Sam and Dean again possibly for the last time so I was happy we at least got that (although the moment was nearly ruined with young Deanās wholeĀ āyouāre not going to college because youāre too dumbā thing, Deanās emotional manipulation and abuse started real early). It was still nice to see them regardless of how uninspired the writing might have been for this episode. Sorry Meghan, for me, this episode was not your best work. This episode was just a typical MotW episode and when the overall arching plot mythos is bad or boring as it kinda has been this season, I normally enjoy MotW episodes. But the material in this episode just lacked charm and I really didnāt care about anything that was happening. And then we had this real kind of cringey line at the end where the damsel tells Dean itās not good to lie but the episode really wasnāt doing a whole lot to hammer that theme in. There were conversations with Young Dean not admitting that he was scared but honestly if I was a kid and looking at this self-proclaimed monster hunter, I donāt think Iād feel all that great if he revealed to me he was scared. And there was the part about Dean lying about the nest of dead children and again, I understand that kind of lie. He was a kid himself, with other kids and his kid brother. Of course he wouldnāt want to tell these kids about a nest of dead children. So the whole theme this episode was attempting to hammer in about lying really kind of misses its mark. If the damsel hadnāt had that super cringey line at the end, I wouldāve thought the theme was telling white lies is okay to protect the ones you care about which would then propel Dean to continue to not tell Sam the truth about Jack Da Bomb. But instead, we get this real half-hearted attempt to tell us that lying is bad and just causes problems later which I mean really, this show has already hammered to death for the past 15 seasons. We really didnāt need to hit it again, Dean should really know better at this point.
But moving on, lets talk about another thing, lets talk about why is it that Cas continuously tells Dean heās leaving and then leaves without a word to Sam? Iām sure the Destiel shippers out there will proclaim this is because in Casās eyes, Dean is the most important and Sam is just an afterthought and doesnāt really matter. But as a multi shipper, and someone whoās pretty big into Sastiel these days, my thought is that Cas doesnāt tell Sam when heās leaving because he knows Sam will try to stop him. Now why did he trust Dean to tell Sam about Jack? Honestly, I just donāt think Cas realizes that Dean is not to be trusted when it comes to things like this. I think Cas told Dean this in a hope that just like with him, it stirred feelings of guilt within him about not being there for Jack but of course had the opposite affect Dean because Dean as a mentioned in previous posts is very much still a child and right now only sees his need for revenge. Itās not necessarily so much revenge against Jack, Dean has more re-directed his revenge to what he believes is the real cause of his pain which is Chuck and to a certain extent Amara. But he canāt be concerned about Jack because again, he has a childās approach to things. He has tunnel vision when it comes to things he wants. He sees this thing he wants, he sees the most direct path to get it, so thatās the direction heās going to walk in. He doesnāt care to look both ways before he crosses the street, he doesnāt care that the cars swerving to avoid him are instead about to hit telephone pulls and catch fire. All he sees is what he wants and if he can get to that point before he gets hurt, then thatās what heās going to do. (Huh, maybe I am in the mood to meta after all, that was quite the metaphor I used). But the point is because Cas is an adjusted adult being he hears that Jack is going to die and he thinks, we need a plan C and expects Dean to feel the same way and tell Sam for him. Cas knows Sam upon hearing that with Plan B, Jack is going to die and Cas is now searching for a Plan C that could involve sacrificing himself instead, Sam would not be okay with either option. But because Cas unfortunately still has his Dean blinders on, he canāt see that even if Dean feels a smidge of potential guilt towards whatās going to happen to Jack, Dean is willing to sacrifice Jack in order to get what he wants. Unfortunate but a lovely Sastiel moment nonetheless.Ā
And then of course, we have the fight in the car with Sam and Dean. Sam understandably is very upset with Dean for keeping this from him. And Dean is yelliing at Sam that Sam would have hated it, he wasnāt on board with using Jack, he wasnāt on board with Amara and I just think that its funny. Because I remember a lot of meta writers within the Destiel fandom kind of talking about how Sam supposedly sympathizes while Dean empathizes and Iām just looking at this scene and thinking,Ā āok, how on earth does this correlate to that sentiment.ā Weāre not getting a whole lot of empathy from Dean here and instead Sam, as always, is being the moral compass here. But anyway, Dean is shouting how they donāt have a choice, this is their only option, blah, blah.blah. And Iām just like,Ā āDean, you do have a choice, but youāre just a child mentally and refuse to look at alternatives because killing Chuck and Amara ala Jack Da Bomb is the most direct path to what you want. And Iām just really happy the that Sam got to the point where he raised his voice at Dean. He didnāt simper down, he wanted Dean to hear that he was not okay with this and the scene just ended with Sam just telling Dean to not speak, not try to make Sam feel better or make any half-assed apologies to Sam, Sam tells Dean toĀ ājust driveā. And this is kind of nice character growth for Sam. Because with how Sam was in this scene, I half expected him to tell Dean to stop the car and let him out and he was going to leave. But, I also think unlike what Sam did in season 1, heās now mature enough to understand that even if he leaves, itās not going to change anything. Heās not good with whatās planned for Jackās future but he knows that if he stays, he can maybe find a way to stop it from happening, which he might not be able to do if he had simply left. So character growth there.Ā
But anyway, thanks for listening to me ramble. I apparently had a lot more to say than I thought I did. But like I said, another episode in the books that I really donāt feel inclined to watch again. Itās another episode thatās there, it fills up space but really doesnāt mean a whole lot to me in the grand scheme of things and really feels kind of disjointed. This whole season has kind of been feeling that way. Itās like they only had a couple of ideas for the overall plot arch of this season and now theyāre just stuck with filling up the empty space. Although, it was nice that Billy called the boys and essentially the writers out on them doing a MotW episode this late in the game when they should be focusing on other things.Ā
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WOO! this weekās episode was sad and weird and badly paced and startlingly, unevenly mature in true titans fashion. i loved it (with reservations)! letās talk about it in excruciating detail:
SPOILERS ahead.
1. i canāt say that iām awfully thrilled about the show following up on a characterās literal suicide attempt by... not addressing said suicide attempt at all. maybe itās the awkward way an entire episodeās worth of flashback was shoehorned in between the end of 2.07--where dick literally talked jason off the ledge while in the throes of a psychotic break of his own--and the beginning of this one, but itās honestly not just bad storytelling, but irresponsible storytelling.Ā
1.5. in a general sense, tho, the tableau at the beginning of the episode is so egregiously unfair--so shockingly, plainly one-sided, with a slump shouldered dick facing the world, only kory on his side, that itās quite apparent that itās the lowest these heroes can go. and i do think their individual reactions to dickās confession provide an interesting insight into their characters. hank and dawn have been operating alone for so long, each a reminder of their traumas and losses and very human frailty to the other, without even the resources that dick and the batman enjoy. itās been them v the world for so goddamn long; is it any wonder that they were looking for the first excuse to bail out of there, to not Deal with the idea that what they were doing to deal with their traumas and guilt was clearly not working, and dick was--and has been always--so willing to be the scapegoat? hank punching dick was utterly unwarranted--but i can accept that as part of the unaddressed emotional outbursts arising out of years of accumulated head injuries from both college football and vigilantism. (this isnāt to excuse what he did but to contextualise it within hankās history and personality.) their instinct when facing ugly truths is to retreat to what they think is familiar and what they need--except, as hank realises later in the episode, thatās exactly whatās fucking them up further.
rose is understandably upset at being lied to about her brotherās death and the titans being complicit in the same--but iām curious that her reaction was to merely leave and not try and fight them. maybe after being defeated by dick while sparring and nearly being killed by rachel she was sensible enough to realise that she couldnāt take them on all at once? i donāt know--sheās curiously been a bit of a cipher this season. jason leaving with her made sense tho--unburdened of the weight of being the teamās scapegoat, understandably miffed at dick for keeping a secret that nearly cost him his life and left him with a great deal of trauma, just Angry at the world in general, he gravitates towards rose, the only other outsider/rebel who tried to reach out to him when everybody else shunned him or looked at him like an impostor. i think the decision was more impulsive than anything--they still look confused and uncertain in the taxi as they leave the tower behind. but--i donāt know. theirs is the storyline that iām the most perplexed about. we just donāt have a lot of information about either of them, rose especially.Ā
(a part of me still thinks sheās sladeās mole in the tower. but why would she leave if she is? to keep up appearances bc to react in any other way to the news of her brotherās death would be suspicious? maybe she left because her job is done and the titans were splitting up? maybe she was part of the long game to seduce jason over to sladeās side--seeking revenge for dick swaying jericho over to the titansā? am i going to stop asking myself questions in this post? am i ever going to write a review thatās not just stream-of-consciousness nonsense? only time will tell.)
DONNA. oh, donna. her decision to leave seems to me a logical continuation of her s2 arc that iād talked about in a previous review--paranoid, insecure, retraumatised, and taking out her frustrations on jason and dick. itās also very interesting to me that she complained to rachel about dick treating them likeĀ āsoldiersā and only told them things that he deemed that theyĀ āneed[ed] to know.āĀ it was because of jillian and whatever mysterious business that themyscira was conducting in sf that she and garth and slade ever landed up in that airport at all; even worse, jillian deemed it was something that donna didnāt need to know until it was too late. donna lost so much in that fiasco--the man she loved, her friends, several members of her amazon family, and her sense of purpose, her belief in her strength and her destiny and her faith that other peopleĀ trusted her as a warrior and as a leader. sheās projecting all that pain onto dick--who again, doesnāt deserve all this shit but takes it anyway because of his own issues.
1.8. and, like. as much as jerichoās death became the Traumatic Event that overshadowed almost everything else in dickās life for the last five years and helps explain a lot of his hang-ups right from s1, it just doesnāt have the same significance for the others. donāt get me wrong--iām sure hank, donna and dawn are devastated and guilty about the part that they had to play in manipulating jericho and his eventual death. but their issues with each other, with the titans tower and with their past run deeper and in different directions, and i think all of that came into play when they each decided to go their separate ways.
1.95. idek what the fuck is going on with rachel. i felt every ounce of dickās heartbreak and devastation when she got up to leave with donna. for all that she saved dick in the first episode of this season, she still hasnāt reached the point where sheās willing to unburden her emotions and issues on him. it must be frustrating and sad for her to realise just how much dick didnāt trust her either. but thereās something else going on as well: maybe sheās realised she has no real control over her re-emerging powers, and, carrying on with the fatalistic attitude she had at the end of 2.05, she wants to spare the titans the chaos and darkness that she carries around with her. (sheās used to running away at this point, after all.) she goes with donna bc donna knows her the least: it would therefore be easy to fool her and escape.Ā
2. more faddei! and kory backstory! \o/Ā
itās curious that they never once bring up trigon, because s1 gave the impression that sheād come to earth with a specific mission to seek his portal out and destroy it before he could, yāknow, Fuck The Universe Up. faddei makes it sound like kory just went on this fun little sabbatical before taking up royal duties, which kiiinda undercuts a lot of what was cool about her s1 arc. i realise you arenāt entirely happy with your freshman season, titans, and s2 looks like it might be a soft reboot, but you donāt have to mutilate it like this!
but seriously. the stakes just got upped exponentially for kory, and it would be really interesting to see where she goes from here. apart from a promise to rachel, she doesnāt really oweĀ the rest of the titans anything--not that i think she views relationships in such transactional terms, of course. on the other hand, abandoning her responsibilities on tamaran has led to its takeover by an unfit leader and the deaths of several of her family and friends. the choice shouldnāt be a choice at all. she should go back home. and yet--she waited too long, and the choice has been taken away from her. faddei is dead, both of their ships are destroyed, and she is stuck on earth, grieving and frustrated and furious. kory is usually very clear headed about exactly where she stands emotionally, but after such a big event, she must be feeling so much pain, guilt, sorrow, anger, even resentment. itās so easy to look at koryās level-headedness and open, empathetic personality and use her to prop up other characters, but i hope that this isnāt always the case, and that sheāll be allowed to really work through these emotions while somebody else looks out for her.Ā
2.35. (the little snippets of faddei and kory just enjoying the shit out of the Little Things that humanity has to offer is just... it filled me with so much warmth. i wouldnāt mind an entire episode of them just chilling and exploring and annoying each other with badly-applied out-of-context pop culture references)
2.5. blackfire! i donāt know much about comics!blackfire beyondĀ āshe was starfireās sister, Evil, and possibly sold her sister into slavery??? yikesā so iām just going purely off what the show has revealed about her so far. it was honestly disconcerting to see so many references to her possible disability (?) and to see both that and the efforts to accommodate her spoken about in... i want to say mocking way? i donāt know. i just saw a murder mystery/thriller movie today where the serial killer was revealed to have been both disabled from birth and mentally ill, and maybe iām just feeling extra sensitive to the truly disturbing and pervasive trope of having disabled characters be Evil--and tying their Evil to their disability.Ā
2.8. anyhow, blackfire appears to have accumulated a fair bit of power in the time that koryās been gone: not only can she remotely possess other tamaraneans but she can blow up their ships too. (and didnāt faddei say that she had goons on the ground, looking for starfire?)
2.9. itās a Lot to deal with this late in the season. maybe kory will leave for tamaran to deal with blackfire once and for all at the end of the season. and if titans ends up cancelled, wouldnāt that be a bittersweet ending.
(whereinĀ ābittersweetā translates toĀ ādevastatingā ofc)
3. oh where do i even startĀ with dick
his worst fears came true. after his confession, not only did his old friends up and leave, but so did rachel and jason, which he found more heartbreaking than anything else. utterly consumed by guilt and convinced more than ever before of his culpability, he actively seeks out ways to self-flagellate, first by going to adeline to apologise, then by banishing himself, then by making sure he is punished (tho i have my doubts on that last one; will elaborate a little later). after watching him have an extended psychotic break and dash into not one but two suicide missions, watching dick grayson do this to himself feels like watching an extended feature on human suffering. itās not fun, or pretty, and i can feel it reaching its nadir so that dick can bounce back up again, but i hope it happens soon.
(dickās natural tendency to internalise guilt and responsibility into a hard little diamond core at his centre and his long training with batman with all the emphasis on secrets and subterfuge with a healthy underpinning of paranoia ironically means that he does so much goddamn emotional labour for this team. heās the glue that keeps them together, that gives them purpose. heās trying so hard to do good by everybody that he isnāt really able to achieve it with any of them, which leads to another self-flagellating spiral and him determining to try harderĀ and the cycle just keeps going on. only kory seems to have ever broken this cycle, because sheās never demanded anything of him, nor he of her. itās really sad to think how bereft dick feels right now, and more than that, how itās stopping him from being there for the people who really do need him and trust him, like gar and rachel.)
3.25. adeline makes a very good point about how merely apologising doesnāt mean youāre owed forgiveness, and that seeking it out after all these years is a self-serving exercise in itself. but i can see dick taking it hard, especially after discovering that sheās letting slade--the man who actually killed her son--recuperate at her home. (and letās be clear: however good her intentions, she participated in lying to her child about the truth of what his father actually does. wow, jericho was really just fucked over by pretty much every one he loved, wasnāt he?)
but i am glad to see dick isnāt so far gone that he takes the blame for jerichoās death in front of slade. heās very aware that slade has permanently broken the team and veryĀ aware of the threat slade poses if they ever try to get back together again, but heās not going to completely surrender every last shred of his self-worth and dignity to this man, and that was refreshing to see.
3.5. so he banishes himself to the farthest place he can think of with nothing more than the shirt on his back and a single duffel bag. itās so over-the-top yet so... dick grayson.
3.8. BUT WAIT! ~PLOT TWIST~
ok so hereās whatās happening, all right? strap in:
a) jericho is one hundred percentĀ inside slade. i have no doubts about this. adeline knows this too. itās why she was so even-keeled while talking to dick, why she confidently said that jericho loved dick, and why she saidĀ ātheyā might be willing to forgive him. iām thinking when slade crawled back home, jericho took advantage of his fatherās momentary weakness to tell what was happening to his mother.Ā
b) jericho tried to communicate to dick. i saw something somewhere which said that slade had gestured something very specific in asl while conversing with dick? iām willing to believe that was intentional.
c) when dick was turning to leave and slade called him one last time and gave hisĀ ābanishment sentenceā jericho likely jumped bodies from slade to dick
d) so why did dick get himself arrested at the airport?
- dick was going through, as others have speculated, a dissociative episode. given how heās exhibited signs of mental illness throughout this season this isnāt that far out of the realm of possibility, but itās a weak and redundant narrative bridge and wasnāt shot in a way that suggested that it was a mental break. so iām ruling this out.
- jericho took over. maybe he felt that this was the only way he could force dick to stay in sf. maybe some of his fatherās anger/resentment leeched into him and he wanted to dick to experience some actual punishment instead of scarpering again. maybe he was overwhelmed by dickās own self-flagellating tendencies and chose the shortest route to maximum pain. maybe itās a combination of all three.
- dick finally got his brain into gear and realised at the last minute that jericho had possessed slade and was trying to tell him something. why he then proceeded to get himself arrested instead of running out of the airport is a mystery.
personally, iām leaning towards theĀ ājericho possessed dickā possibility.
4. gar is such a sweetheart and i am so glad that he took centrestage this episode, even though, like always, it was to support another character and ended up with him crying and begging for help from an unresponsive dick. *sighs*
4.5. much like dick himself, heās trying to do good by everybody, only to end up badly misjudging a situation, and all alone.Ā
5. oof. this has gone on for far too long and i am Tired. more thoughts to come later, because right now my brain is as disorganised as... as disorganised as a titansĀ episode. hah! self-burn!!!
#titans#titans spoilers#dick grayson#koriand'r#garfield logan#hank hall#dawn granger#donna troy#rachel roth#slade wilson#meta#aaaah this is 2.6k+ words long I'M SORRY
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Thought: Half of why John is more accepting in 14x13 than most of us would expect based on his past behavior is because John kinda thinks it's a dream. The other half is because he is just a better person when Mary is around. See the "John would have hated John" posts re 5x13.
Iām gonna use this opportunity to point out a few things about the episode that I think a lot of people may have missed, because it goes a very long way toward understanding Johnās reaction here:
2003 John, who from the way he showed up in the bunker, armed and apparently mid-fight... I canāt even imagine the shock of suddenly finding oneself supposedly sixteen years in the future, you know? And thatās just the tip of the iceberg.
From Donnaās cabin, where Mary was before they called her back to the bunker, it wouldāve been approximately a 12 hour drive. Sam and Dean had TWELVE HOURS or so to talk with John before we rejoin them in the kitchen just before Mary shows up. Because heck, they had SIXTEEN YEARS worth of stuff to catch him up on, you know?
First off, he had to be so shaken when he arrived. He mightāve been thinking he get clobbered in the fight heād thought he was in and was this all a hallucination or a dream? Or was he actually killed, and this was heaven or something? Who even knows what he couldāve been thinking at first, but he seemed to pretty quickly accept that it was real.
This is where one of the lessons the show has been encouraging us to learn really comes in useful. That being, STUFF HAPPENS OFFSCREEN and the show has encouraged us to accept the fact that what happens offscreen actually counts. So we have to assume that in the hours upon hours they talked with John, they laid out the vast majority of stuff thatās happened in the last decade and a half.
Some of it would probably be pretty difficult to hear, like the fact John didnāt survive to get revenge on Azazel (heck, 2003 him might not even know he was legit getting CLOSE even), but that Sam and Dean DO. How difficult would it be to tell this version of John that Dean sold his soul to save Sam, that he spent 40 years in Hell and was rescued by an angel, to tell them about how angels and demons were manipulating them all for decades to start the apocalypse?
Or that Sam let himself be possessed by Lucifer to stop the apocalypse, pulling both Lucifer and Michael into a cage in Hell to save the world? Like... this is still just the tip of the iceberg here... Thereās still Raphael and the second attempt at the apocalypse, Soulless!Sam, Deanās year in the suburbs, Purgatory, Leviathans, how theyāve befriended angels and demons and monsters oh my... oh, and God. Who also wrote a series of novels about their lives that are technically one of the gospels now... all the way up to how Dean earned a gift from Godās sister, the primordial darkness herself... that Mary has been resurrected...
Plus all that stuff about time travel and alternate universes theyāve experienced.
And for John, personally, the story of how they discovered the bunker in the first place, when the father John had always thought abandoned him as a child had actually traveled into the future, saved Samās life, and was killed by the demon Abaddon in the process. I mean THAT RIGHT THERE had to be a horrific shocker to learn, you know?
For JOHN, thatās possibly the most life-alteringly earth-shattering thing they couldāve told him, you know? Just to have an ANSWER to that question that had plagued him since HE was four years old and his dad disappeared off the face of the earth. Not to mention learning that he shouldāve been a MoL legacy himself, and that if his father hadnāt been hunted through time by a Knight of Hell, John wouldāve grown upĀ āin the lifeā of monsters and magic himself... Kinda an eye opener, you know?
Oh, and learning that their family was a bloodline going all the way back to Cain and Abel (yes, that Cain and Abel, and by the way Dean killed Cain that one time), and that their family was part of a much larger cosmic plot to bring on the apocalypse in the first place, and Azazel-- Johnās lifelong obsession-- was only the first step in all of that and a whole bunch of worse stuff happened after.
Oh, plus, Dean killed Hitler.
Theyāve met Samuel Colt, Eliot Ness, Dean was on a sub during WW2 for a day or so, and traveled back to 1973 and 1978 and met with John both times (oh, and Dean was the dude who talked John into buying the Impala when heād intended to buy a stupid VW van).
And this is STILL only scraping the tip of the iceberg here... They talked for TWELVE. HOURS. or so...
Sam and Dean have had some shockingly full lives, you know? Itās not even a surprise to me that after all that, after seeing the evidence of his sonsā lives laid out like that for him-- the good, the bad, the cosmic and the mundane-- (GOD! HIMSELF! MADE THEM PANCAKES! RIGHT OVER THERE!) that Johnās only possible reaction would be to understand just how far his children went after his death.
In the wake of learning all of that, what they went through pre-2005 is just kinda... overshadowed, you know? Almost unreal itself.
But yeah, because of all of this ^^, and then the absolute SHOCK of seeing Mary again after all this time, after spending the majority of his adult life seeking revenge and justice for her death, and the long and painful search for the truth that kinda wrecked ALL their lives, to see her again alive and happy and whole... well, heck... everything else kinda pales to that. The literal horror show he and Sam and Dean endured (even the bits that were blatantly his fault) just... theyāre suddenly worth it all, just for that moment, you know?
In a weird way, in that moment John had the burden of suffering with Maryās death lifted off of him, and he could stand there in the perspective of that more innocent John from 1978 whoād unwittingly judged his own future actions so harshly. For one night, he got to step through to the other side of all that trauma and look back on it from a point where he and his family had finally WON. Where theyād emerged from it and built a life for themselves that he might never be able to understand, but he can appreciate it.
Even in 1.21, he told Sam that his goal was to finally be able to walk away from their mission when it was done, for Sam to be able to go back to school, for Dean to have a normal life, for him to finally be able to rest thinking heād been able to serve Justice on Maryās behalf. John himself didnāt even plan to continue hunting out beyond killing the demon who killed Mary, you know? Iām not sure he even had considered a future at all for himself out beyond that singular life goal. Because thatās what living for revenge does to a person.
But this also offered him the fresh perspective that of course there wasnāt really an end to hunting, and that Azazel wasnāt the Final Boss theyād needed to defeat. And heād have some small notion of just how awful the burden heād left Sam and Dean with all those years ago-- which THIS John is still THREE YEARS AWAY FROM DUMPING ON THEM.
Ow, time travel.
Granted, the episode didnāt try to explain or defend any of this to the audience, because it should never HAVE to... Can you even imagine how much of a mess of an episode that wouldāve been if theyād even tried? Because the story of this episode was being told on multiple levels:
they didnāt try to overwhelm the GA with all of this heaviness, because the GA wouldnāt even care. The GENERAL notion of Sam and Deanās lives to this point and their emotional states in canon during s14 would be enough of an explanation (trust me that the GA doesnāt have Strong Feelings about John the way Fandom does)
this was also the big PR push episode this season, and a lot of JDM folks likely tuned in just for him while having only a tangential knowledge of SPN canon to go on... introducing 14 seasons worth of emotional turmoil for their sake is kinda... pointless...
They assumed that people in the fandom who ARE invested in these characters emotionally would actually understand all of this already without needed to be spoon-fed all of this again
Because thatās how writing works. The writers have to trust that the audience is actually engaging with the story and possesses critical thinking skills.
I think some of the disconnect here was that we each went into this episode with our own personal baggage attached, with our own feelings about how WE might personally react if we were in Sam and Deanās positions here. And if Sam and Dean didnāt react the way we hoped they would, whether it be via expressing anger at John over how he raised them, or just yelling about any or all of the above, then it was OUR job as the Thinking Audience to ask WHY, and to consider the past fourteen years of canon in coming to a clearer understanding of Sam and Dean themselves.
I wrote something the other day (yesterday? maybe... hang on...Ā http://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/182723615495/rosewhipped22-so-i-havent-rewatched-lebanon-yet) about Deanās wish that the pearl granted, because he HAS been thinking about his entire life-- including the baggage heās been trying to lay down all season exemplified in his conversation with Sasha about her father in 14.05. And I think this episode nailed that aspect of Deanās personal growth, by bringing John back the way they did and specifically NOT making it about anger or bitterness, but about finally being accepting of HIMSELF and of the entirety of his own life, setting down all the shit he canāt change while also acknowledging that he wouldnāt change any of it if it meant it wouldnāt bring him to this current point in his life. And that is HUGE. That is GROWTH and MATURITY.
Because this episode wasnāt really about John at all, but about Sam and Dean (and even Mary) finally getting to lay Johnās memory to rest so they can move forward without dragging his ghost along in their wake.
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Romeo x Juliet
Sooo. Sometime during my middle school years, I was on the AMV side of YouTube. I stumbled across an AMV of the anime, Romeo x Juliet, to the background song:Ā āRomeo and Juliet.ā Out of curiosity, I searched up the anime, and I found it on YouTube. I think I watched the final scenes of the last episode first, without any context. I guess I was interested enough to start from the beginning.Ā
And I became obsessed. By obsessed, I mean, seriously, seriously, obsessed. I fell in love with everything -- the main characters, the music, the world. The romance was touching, the story was impacting, and it was just perfect. I cried sooo hard. It became one of those things that touched me so much to the point I thought about it for weeks and weeks. I searched up AMVās and fanart and scoured the Wikipedia page over and over, so eager to have more.Ā
I even tried to burn the entire series on DVD because I wanted to watch it whenever I wanted (so I had to learn how to burn a DVD, though I donāt think I ever actually succeeded). Eventually, though, by some luck, I found the DVD at Best Buy, and my dad bought it for me.Ā
I shared it with my friends. I sent them all home to watch it, and I felt overjoyed when they came back to school the next day saying they binged it and cried and loved it. We became something of a fan club. Lol.Ā
Then time went on and I thought of it less and less, though I was always fond of the memory of watching it. I remembered it as a sad, beautiful anime that I loved so much. Actually, it impacted me so much that Iām borrowing some elements of the story for my own works. To this day, I reference the show when Iām wondering about the design of my own fantasy universes.Ā
These days, Iām slowly molding my Sol Verynda universe. Iāve been doing that for about four years now. I keep changing things or developing them further. Sometimes, I run out of inspiration. Iām still dragging details out of the world where I can find them. Sometimes you just need a giant push.Ā
I donāt remember the reason, but sometime during this past week or the last, Romeo x Juliet popped into my mind. I think I was just reminiscing the story. And then I decided to just watch it. You know. For the heck of it.Ā
So for the first time in a very, very long time, I watched the series.Ā
Iām a lot older now and more mature than I was in middle school, which means thereās a lot more that I can understand now. That means Iām also a lot more cynical now. And critical. And the devilās always on my shoulder. Plus this raging depression that just wonāt go away is in my mind. So I re-watched the anime through a different lens.Ā
Still me, but a different version.Ā
I watched the series over the course of a few days (busy with school and work). I decided to watch it in Dub because thatās the original way I watched it, and I wanted to recapture that feeling I got when I watched before. Even though my sister gave me such a hard time about it. Like, seriously. She came into my room and slapped my phone out of my hands because she was so disgusted. I retaliated.Ā
I like the Dub also because the script is so lovely in English. They incorporate some Shakespearian speak (I learned later that itās really called iambic pentameter). So the characters sometimes speak like itās the 14th or something century, and itās pleasant to hear. I also just really like hearing them speak poetically in an American accent.Ā
Buuuut, I caved out of curiosity. I searched the Subbed version on YouTube and watched a few minutes of the first episode, just to see the difference. And, well. I get it. The show was made specifically for Japanese, and so that version is actually very fitting. Buuut, I still continued on with the dub. Iām thinking now, though, that Iām going to rewatch the show in the Subbed version sometime soon. Itāll be like seeing the story again, but with a different feel. So, yeah.Ā
Anywayyyy, so the story. The show takes liberties with the adaptation. Iāve never read the original play, but we all know how it goes. And I think I watched Romeo + Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio, so I had an idea. In the original, Romeo belongs to the Montague family and Juliet belongs to the Capulets. Their families hate each other, but they fall in love anyway. After a string of events, Romeo and Juliet die together, and the family conflict is resolved by this tragedy.Ā
In the anime, Romeoās father, Leontes Montague, murders every member of the Capulet family so he can take over the city, Neo Verona, as ruler. Only Juliet, who was rescued by her familyās loyalists, escapes. Sheās two years old. Fourteen years later, Montague is the tyrannical king of the city, and Juliet is forced into hiding. She disguises herself as a boy, named Odin, though she was never told the reason why she had to do so.Ā
Montague is on the hunt to find her. In his tyranny, he allows his guards to torment the citizens. And so Juliet, disguised as a man, takes on the persona of the Red Whirlwind to defend the people.Ā
Eventually, Juliet winds up at the palace, dressed as a girl, for the Rose Ball. And she and Romeo meet. And itās a love at first sight moment.Ā
Later, Juliet finally learns of her heritage, and her world becomes chaotic.Ā
One thing I didnāt realize when I was younger was just how much of a sweetheart Romeo is. He lived a rough life in the palace. His father was emotionally and physically abusive. His mother left him to join a convent (though she deeply regretted leaving him). He was alone at the palace except for his best friend, Benvolio, and his Dragon Steed (basically, flying pegasus), Cielo. Despite that, he had a big heart. He was nothing like his father. He genuinely was a good person.Ā
And Juliet just deserved so much better. The girl could never catch a break. She and Romeo had similar temperaments. She was really sweet and considerate with a good, forgiving heart. But she was also this badass swordsman secret vigilante who was a fearless leader and fought for justice. We see her character develop over the course of the series. She slowly matures after all her mistakes. And in the end sheās the one to save the world.Ā
The love shared between these two is really the driving force of the story. Itās the reason the two fought so hard to create a world of love instead of hatred. Instead of revenge, Julietās focus was on freedom and happiness. Without Romeo, she might have actually killed Montague and gone with the route of hatred.Ā
The series did get a little cheesy and naive sometimes, I felt while watching. Thatās the cynical adult in me. However, the show doesnāt hesitate to admit that. For example, when Romeoās trying to motivate a group of exiles to cultivate a dead land, his words do seem childish and idealistic. And several inmates point that out. But they do eventually try.Ā
I donāt know. To me, itās a reminder that the idealism of children is so powerful. Adults donāt have that same spirit. A lot of us are always worried about the bad outcomes of things. Weāre always tired. Weāre so used to seeing bad things that we become cynical. But kids arenāt so used to it yet, so they still have these grand hopes.Ā
It can be a disadvantage, of course, such as when Juliet jumped into an opportunity out of her naivety, just to see her loyalists fall.Ā
But, still. We get characters like William (a caricature of Shakespeare himself), who is so childish and idealistic and perpetually inspired.Ā
When I was in middle school, I hadnāt yet experienced a real relationship. So it was fun to imagine what it would be like. Watching Romeo and Julietās relationship blossom gave me such a warm, fluttery feeling. You know. I wanted a romance like that.Ā
Re-watching it, post-heartbreak from my FL and other āromanticā endeavors, I view love a lot differently now. Honestly, I havenāt felt fondly about it for a long time. Iāve come to a point where I almost detest it. I detest boys and the hurt they can cause me. Itās hard to imagine myself in a good, loving, idealistic relationship again after all the guys Iāve encountered.Ā
Well. My heart is still too broken for a new love, but I still felt my heartstrings pulled by the anime. Maybe itās too soon to tell, but I think my opinion has shifted a bit. I forgot, really, how amazing romantic love can be. How consuming. Even when Iām not a part of it, just seeing it unfold is so precious. It makes me feel all warm and happy inside. And inspired to write.Ā
Anyway.Ā
One other thing that Iām really noticing now that I just didnāt before is the symbolism. That scene where Romeo asked Juliet (without knowing she was present) what flower she would prefer for a garden, she answered with aĀ ārose.ā I remember feeling confused. The entire series, the white iris was the symbol of their relationship. But why would she answer a rose?
Well. The iris is on the Capulet family crest, and the rose is on the Montague family crest. Juliet was saying she wanted him.Ā
Also, Leontes Montague entered the family by becoming a ward, and then poisoning his way to the top. Also, his father is a Capulet, meaning Romeo and Juliet are distant cousins. Oof.Ā
Also, I know more about art and architecture now thanks to Art History courses. So seeing all the reliefs and structures in the series was astounding. Seriously. Astounding. Thereās this constant image of a goddess with angelās wings in prayer. It appears in statues, reliefs, statuettes, paintings, etc. There was a goddess statue at the fountain where Romeo and Juliet first met.Ā
In the end, we learned this goddess is a symbol of Escalus, the grand tree that serves as a life force to the continent.Ā
If anything, I really really really wish there was a prequel or something that went into the history of the Capulet family and the tree of Escalus. There were so many unanswered questions. Like, why was Neo Verona floating over the sky the whole time? How? Why did Escalus keep it afloat? Why did the Capulet family have to be the one to make sacrifices? Why the girls? Who was Ophelia, really? Whatās the history? When they fell from the sky, did they just rejoin the larger world? They mention Christian and Greek mythos, so how do they know about it? They say Escalus is the patron goddess of Neo Verona, so are there others?Ā
Sadly, we might never find out. But itās all still very interesting.Ā
Neo Verona is a living, breathing world. Itās a fantasy world that we fall in love with.Ā
All the side characters make us care for saving the world, and Juliet mentions this, too. She decides her sacrifice would be worth it if it meant her loved ones would get to live. And we agree, too, because we come to love all the minor characters. Every single one. Even though we donāt want her to die.Ā
Watching it this time around, I also started to understand Montague, and admire him as a villain. Heās layered. Heās vicious. Heās ruthless. Heās a little insane. He was never loved (he says this in his final moments). His mother died when he was young. He told Romeo he deeply cared for him, which I kind of believe. In a twisted way, I believe he did love him. I believe he also loved Romeoās mother, Portia. When he visited her, he started by saying she could have lived in luxury with him if she didnāt leave.Ā
Montague also seemed to genuinely care for Escalus. For some reason. Maybe he didnāt want to the world to end with him in it. He seemed to be searching for a genuine solution to the problem.Ā
Anytime Montague was on screen, he was riveting. Truly terrifying. Charming with some, like Hermoine and other lady nobility. But murderous. And a swordsman. Underneath it all, all his heinous acts, he just wanted love. In the end, he died in Julietās arms.Ā
The mythos of the world was incredible as well. Iām a sucker for fantasy, and the show really runs with all my favorite things. Prophecy. Ancient things. Sacrifice. Enhanced nature.Ā
I havenāt watched anime in a long time. Honestly, I sort of shunned it from my mind whenĀ āAsian thingsā became more and more shameful. Well, that thinking is shameful. Because anime is truly beautiful. It captures humans in a different way. Anime knows how to do romance. It knows how to build tension and longing, it knows how to invest the audience. Every anime I ever watched has hooked me to the romance (something American TV canāt ever do with me).Ā
I just love the tone of anime. The wittiness, the playful scenes, the heavy moods, the characters and their attitudes. Itās all entirely distinct. I donāt know why, but it really gets you wanting. Plus the expressiveness of 2D animation that can do absolute wonders.Ā
Iām a really big fan of Game of Thrones, donāt get me wrong, and maybe the show just butchered the story, but for a while I just wanted to make a story similar in spirit to Thrones. You know. The realism. The darkness. The unfairness.Ā
But I forgot that you can make your own worlds with fiction. And your own rules. Life is life. Itāll always be unfair and tragically beautiful, and there are lovely stories to capture that. But then there are those stories that are an abstraction of reality, like Romeo x Juliet. Not totally realistic, but spellbinding. Youāre thrown into this world, and you just want to be a part of it. For a while, you can escape the real world and join this one.Ā
It gets one inspired about living in a different world.Ā
So while realism is great, fiction and world-building are just so much more fun. And impactful. And creative. And magical. And fan-service isnāt a bad thing.Ā
I cried during the final episode, once right after Romeo died, and again during the Epilogue. Everyone who lived got a happy ending, and I was so sad and happy seeing them all enjoying life. After all the darkness that they went through, they all ended up living in the bright, joyous world that Romeo and Juliet dreamed of.Ā
Thatās fucking inspiring. To the max. A little cheesy, but in a way that feels so earned and so right.Ā
So anyway, Iām glad I decided to rewatch it. I was in my early teens when I last watched it, and now Iām 21. Oh, and the decade is ending. Seems fitting. Maybe itāll help me set the tone for the next decade, which I hope will be one of creativity. And maybe some romance. Maybe. Maybe itāll have that attitude.Ā
Itās still one of my favorite stories of all time, and Iām definitely going to rewatch it again in the future. Next time will probably be soon. I have to spend some time recovering from the emotional roller coaster that I went through. Maybe next month. Iāll watch it in Sub, the way it was meant to be, I guess. And Iāll see the difference. And Iāll probably write another post about how I felt about it.Ā
Until the next time.Ā
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So I have a lot of thoughts about Ares that I havenāt been writing down/sharing on here! I was going to go through point by point with that trailer they did a few months ago, going in to my personal opinions/predictions for each team, situation, and what I think that means for the characters in themā¦ but then I realised I really just want to talk about Teikoku. So iām gonna. do that.
so aliea is a super influential arc for a lot of characters, and three of those have ended up at teikoku - sakuma, fudou and kazemaru (just mentally add + genda every time i mention sakuma, i love him but unfortunately he doesnāt get built on much after aliea). and actually the minute hino said this was an alternate timeline i was v. concerned in regards to the development for these characters bcs i see them as being v important to them growing up in to strong healthy beautiful adults! very briefly:
- it reaffirms sakumaās sense of self in a teikoku w/out kidou. it helps him define himself w/out kidou. also like itās super fucking mature of him to be able to encourage kidou to go to raimon when he knows itāll hurt him in the process!! props for sakuma, look at all that Character Growth.
- it sets up fudouās whole deal. on subsequent viewings it actually also sets up his isolation which is super super important for his later development.
- it shifts kazemaruās perspective, shows us (and him) how destructive it can be to cling to things like being the best, how having high standards for yourself can, when left unchecked, be self destructive. the whole dark emperors thing makes him grow up very fast and kind of refocuses his priorities in sport (and life?).
so in ares, these things havenāt happened. maybe they wonāt happen! that concerns me because i love that these things happened because itās a testament to how well i11 develops its characters subtly and continuously through the series. i want to have faith but lbr, this is going to be one fucking crowded series. hereās maybe my thoughts re: all of these characters being together, on what appears to be the most fucked team in the competition. like, rip teikoku, youāre not getting anywhere and itās not fair because youāre beautiful and you deserve it.
first up with sakuma. heāll probably suffer enough being a captain on a team coached by kageyama, but iām curious to see exactly how. not just because i enjoy suffering, but because kageyama brand suffering is pretty bland at this point, so the real question is - will this suffering bring about as nice character moments as shin teikoku did? shin teikoku was such a good story arc. it had purpose in the overall season as well as for the characters involved! and iāll say it again, i really love how sakuma Grew because of it. it takes a lot to own up to your own mistakes, let alone as big as the one he made. he wasnāt just trying to absolve kidou of his guilt by telling him he was better at raimon: he was also in a way repenting himself, giving himself a stern talking to, to try and see past his own desires and fears and paranoia and to fight his loneliness with his friendās happiness. it sounds so petty but this can be hard!! fomo is a Real Thing. and i think this kind of shapes sakuma later, in ffi - he gets setback after setback but he works through it and itās Brilliant. he works hard to get back in to shape so he can play again. he works even harder to try and be on the representative team, and then gets knocked back. picks himself up and keeps going. puts aside his own beef with kageyama to support kidou. he works on himself constantly, physically and mentally and just As A Person, and it all starts with that guilt from shin teikoku. will ares have these moments for him?
i can see the whole ākidou come back to teikoku :ccccccā thing being solved by a casual conversation. it might even be OFF SCREEN. and that feels super anti-climactic considering the lasting impact of shin teikoku? what i want is for sakuma to lose it again - maybe have his anger at his own inability as captain boil over, have him lash out at kageyama in the Worst Possible Way. heād have to be isolated. heād have to ignore support from genda and kazemaru and whatever interaction he has with kidou. but it would be FUN and we also get to have his development and learning growth and iād be happy*
i want to jump in with kazemaru next. because heās kind of similar with sakuma in how dark emperors impacted his character, only his attachment was to the idea of winning/being the best rather than a person or idealised team/friendship situation. kazemaru doesnāt look like heās in a good position in aliea which ngl gives me Life, but the question is - will this lead to his realisation and reconfiguration of his toxic mindset?
thereās nothing wrong with wanting to improve, or with having ambition or goals. but we all know how that ended for kazemaru, because of the way he internalised loss and failure and was eventually tempted by pure power. heās very de-powered in ares. he has to play second fiddle to KAGEYAMA, of all fucking people, and idk i got the vibe from the trailer that heās trying to start a coup with sakuma at least to usurp it all. butā¦ is this consistent with s1 kazemaru, or even early aliea kazemaru? he feels very ffi kazemaru already. again, no doubt heāll Suffer, but there was something to dark emperors that was so shocking, so impactful, that you canāt help but want something just as big? i donāt think thereās space for it in the ares story. and like sakuma, i donāt think heās isolated to the point he was in aliea for it to happen all that naturally. so the question is - will his toxic mindset get addressed? will the dark parts of his ambition be dealt with, or will they still be there ready to explode?
i think thatās my major concern. aliea built kazemaruās dark emperor turn so well. i donāt want that aspect of his character to just be ignored like it was never a thing, because imo itād make the whole thing feel less like natural, human development and more like contrived plot device. and yeah, i know this is fiction, i know things have to happen for the plot, but i like i11 because it does treat character seriously, and does have the plot evolve along character lines. even in s1 kazemaru talks about how he wants to fight on the world stage. his break in s2 is believable. his stress, his fear, his anxiety, his despair, itās all believable! please let elements of that stay in whatever he has to go through in ares.
and now for fudou! i love fudou. i was v. concerned when he turned up in the outer code and seemed Actually Stable. see, the thing with these three in aliea is that they were all isolated (sakuma you could argue had mentally separated his own suffering from gendaās, when you consider the extend he went to in shin teikoku in comparison). and they all dealt with that isolation by taking the power of the aliea meteorite. sakuma and kazemaru did that with a whole lot of passion. they let it consume them. fudouā¦ didnāt. fudou was in control. and he seems to discard it without having to break like the other two did.
fudou is so interesting, iād recommend an aliea rewatch just focusing on him. heās all about the calculated revenge agains the world. he wants chaos, but he himself is not chaotic. he wants it to come apart around him, but to stay above it all. thatās why the only real moment of shock for him comes when kageyama rubs it in his face that heās just as much of a pawn as the rest of them. this is a Deep Cut for him. this is Huge. and itās huge because, as much as he wants to stay separate, he is still insanely affected by his family situation. it follows him in to ffi in that he canāt open up or trust any of his teammates, and how he deliberately antagonises them to keep them away. he doesnāt want, closeness. he doesnāt think he needs it, even though in many ways he craves it (snarky comments to himself that just serve to show how lonely he is, the fact that 90% of his hissatsu are combo moves, etc).
ANYWAY. why does this matter? well, in what weāve seen of him in ares heāsā¦. playing nice? heās sitting quietly and listening? heās involved in team play? HEāS WEARING THE NO. 10 JERSEY JFC. this fudou already feels post-ffi. i can give them the benefit of the doubt - he doesnāt know why heās at the teikoku meeting, and he doesnāt seem to have an established relationship with kageyama. maybe heās just playing it save, sussing things out. but i hope there is some chaos. i hope he doesnāt play nice from the get-go. ffi was really fun in deconstructing his actions vs. everyone elseās intense dislike of him. itās a really subtle unravelling of a villain, one that i missed on first watch because i was too god damn mad at him. but!! itās so good. itās so well done. and there are so many layers: we see fudou as we know him, just that Shithead who caused shin teikoku. we see fudou from the POV of kidou and sakuma, as someone who canāt be trusted, as someone who might still be working with kageyama. and then we see him through his own actions: he was fucked over too, and he wants to get back at kageyama just the same as everyone else. heās insanely attentive to his teammates, even in the early stages of the season. heās alone. and he grows. i love adult fudou because itās such a lovely transformation from this isolated kid who dealt with his pain by causing chaos, to an actual well adjusted human being who has Friends and who Coaches and Helps people and Supports them while still retaining his own sense of self. ITāS REALLY NICE. BUT WE CANāT HAVE THAT ARC IF HEāS ALREADY THERE.
so hino, please, make fudou a shit. make him the biggest shit. make him ambiguous and unpredictable and look I know thereās not that much time to deal with this but make him chaotic, just for a little bit. he is the joker - let him act like it before he joins up all buddy with sakuma and kazemaru, as per the implications of the trailer. you can do it, i have faith in you.
*i will most likely be happy with anything they do anyway this is all moot
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