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[rickisanchez]

i feel like if you gave me a powerpoint and 30 minutes with google i could prove that rickford is more plausible than stanchez

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this is not stanchez h8 btw <3 love u guys, love those guys

[mistermxxnys]

me: today seems like a great day to draw my queen lily evans brainrot: no! draw the marauders as fnaf characters

[puppett33th]

careless whisperer, turn your gaze upon this wretched thing

[girlwolf]

Trying to do a backflip from flat in skate 3 is making me want to die.

[wentzdayz]

I want cuddles, stargazing cuddles, movie marathons, easy and relaxed breakfast mornings, pizza nights, sleep in each other's arms, end up talking about life when it's 3 AM when neither of us can sleep, knowing smiles, loving looks, confessions in the middle of kisses, hold your hand while walking, kiss your nose, taking care of you when you push yourself too hard, tell you everything I love about you when you're doubting yourself, and seeing you blush when I tell you you're cute. We used to be like that. I want to brush your hair with my fingers while you're asleep, get lost in your eyes when you talk about something you love. Maybe we can be like that again someday.

[babylonianspice]

I'm in the process of making D&D style Grumps and I'm rEAL excited

[maxladcomics]

Hey, :/ anon here!

I'm gonna be completely honest. I was tired too and overreacted. I'm just so used to seeing people be assholes I read much too into it and??? Why was it so aggressive??? Also I brought up something unrelated??? Idk I'm sorry. Also my ask was absolutely awfully stated which really shows that maybe I should stop listening to my brain when it's past my bedtime. (Of course that doesn't excuse it.)

Basically, my problem was that you reblogged a thing that was talking about canon and came off as saying what Sans and Papyrus likes in canon and stuff. You refused some things that were canon or came up with ideas that weren't supported by canon (although not said otherwise.)

I'm very defensive due to undertale fans being cruel to others often and idk? I'm sorry again I'm a really shitty person. I should come off anon and apologize face off but :( I'm a coward.

You should reword it so it doesn't sound like you're saying this is canon, but everything else was 100% my fault. I'm sorry

Anon this isn't fair you're not supposed to be aware of your decisions and actions and regret things!

Hahaha, but it's ok!

At the point of answering your ask I was exhausted and shouldn't have replied because I like pretending to be concise and clear, but I can only do that in certain circumstances. BUT TO BE CLEAR- there is no malice, I'm not mad at you and you weren't wrong for getting mad about it. Not saying you were mad or came across that way, I understand it was a defensive reaction, I get that way around certain theories (Surprisingly not theories on Papyrus or his brother)

"maybe I should stop listening to my brain when it's past my bedtime."

Sometimes it can't be helped lmao. I hope you weren't too upset by it, and I'll edit out the bedtime thing from my other post, while I do believe I'm right in that part, the only proof I have is the lack of and I'm willing to concede that doesn't mean it's not true. Even if I want it to be GRR.

"You refused some things that were canon or came up with ideas that weren't supported by canon"

Tbh I might need someone to hold my hand and point out where I went wrong with it, that post was definitely aimed at being as canon as possible with direct quotes to support it (obviously didn't add them because that would've made the post too long to be bearable), but obviously the one with the lack of proof is the bedtime story one which I'm willing to edit out (and pretend to be salty about it).

BUT ALSO FAIR ON BEING DEFENSIVE. I understand, I get that way too around certain theories and ideas, which is the main reason I have built myself into this corner, I barely follow anyone and don't wander out into the fandom anymore. Is it lonely? NOPE. Do I regret any potential awesome friend out there that I'm missing because I'm doing this? YES. ALL THE TIME. I've made awesome friends but what if there's ones out there that I can't get because I have to find and interact first? AHH I THINK ABOUT THIS A LOT.

But anyway, you're not a shitty person, as I mentioned in another ask, your ask inspired a comic! I had to rush to note it down because I was relying on my memeory to hold it to sketching stage but felt it slipping away lmao. I am a little concerned the comic will come across as having malicious intent BUT I WANT TO DRAW MORE THAN ANY CONCERNS I HAVE.

[maxladcomics]

I always hc that both sans and papyrus used to have nightmares and/or insomnia (not like the fanon, just generally). papyrus asked sans to read him a bedtime story after a bad nightmare, and it helped a both of them a lot and since then it became a tradition for sans to read papyrus, or even then other way around depending on the situation

I want to argue this and imply it's the other way around but I can see that would come from personal bias and I can already see Papyrus has a certain trust/belief in Sans that makes this headcanon likely

But that's not fair I want to be salty (I'm joking, I'm saying this because it's funny to me)

But on the contradicting side, I wonder if Papyrus would willingly give Sans that ammo to use and tell other people. He's definitely willing to let anyone say anything about him without a care in the world, but why? Is it because he's playing a character himself? And any insult/attack on his character isn't a direct attack on himself?

Not trying to imply Sans is malicious when he tells us things about Papyrus that aren't true- it has potential to be malicious, but it's unclearly why either of them are doing it and it seems clear to me that Papyrus is in on it, although I'm still trying to work out if it's the super simple reason I can already see proof for or something mysterious like what I'm rambling about here.

Obviously you can see which option I'm picking lmao, super simple answer? NAAAHH.

On the upside, this has inspired a comic, I'm gonna sketch it out and see if I can grind it out quickly so it doesn't interrupt too much with my other comics that I keep slacking on

[maxladcomics]

How old do you think Sans and Papyrus are? Is their age different in other universes?

[This turned into a ramble, the short answer is I think Papyrus is somewhere around 18-25, and his brother could be a teenager or old man. In other AU's I've made my own version for, it's the same until I got into the Gemknight AU's. So for most versions of AU's I've made, Papyrus is the younger (Great for angst!) but later (Gravel-type AU's) Papyrus could be the older brother (Also great for angst) ]

The ramble:

I used to think that Papyrus was the younger one but I'm starting to question/doubt that, but it's difficult to tell with all the deceit between those two bastards. The way they're both different levels of liars makes it hard to tell what's true and what's not (I know about the Japanese version where it's heavily implied Papyrus is the younger brother).

I have a theory that sits on the side of "Why are they like this?" and "I'm probably reading this wrong" but I get the impression that they are both playing/acting a part to purposely deceive us. Papyrus acts out depending on the prompts that he's given by his brother, it's happened more than once and I'm very suspicious at it. Is it a prompt game? What would it mean? Is his brother being malicious about it? (doubt it, he's too lazy for that) So am I imagining it? Did they plan this 'game' because it lowered the risk of a murder run? I know Papyrus would agree to a risk like that.. but it wouldn't make sense for his brother to.

If they're playing a game like this, it's possible everything they say around each other is an intentional (or lazy) lie. So I guess unless I learn to read/translate Japanese myself I probably won't be able figure it out and I don't think Toby would restrict important lore like that.. but at the same time I'm not sure. Either way I don't trust what Papyrus pretends to be around his brother.

But back to the main question:

I'm starting to lean on the idea of Papyrus being the older brother, I think it's a fun concept to explore and I'm glad @fluo-skeletons AU's brought that idea into my range and I've started to adjust any new AU's I make into a similar concept/theme because I want to see how different things turn out. (Nothing changes, it's still angst)

I think Papyrus is in his late teens, or early 20's.. maybe 25 at the highest or maybe older than Asgore himself?? I've recently discovered timeline things in Undertale that are making me question everything (I know, some things avoid me when all I do is weird shit like check if there's patterns in Papyrus's bookshelf) so I need to evaluate and line things up to understand the full timeline and what's going on. I don't know how old his brother is and there's no indicator to guess, he could be an old man or an edgy teenager.

A lot of the AU's I started with have Papyrus as the younger brother by a few years, (his brother appears a lot older but that's because he didn't have much growing left to do) and newer AU's I'm changing that around, not that it changes anything between them, it just makes Papyrus's behavior make more sense, which is good for consistency.

[mistermxxnys]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your jily art!! It's always so delightful and joyful to see "new blood" in our fandom, especially new artists or writers, especially since jily lovers have become rarer 🥺 they deserve the best! You don't know how happy it made me to see your posts yesterday 🥹

No, thank you for this incredibly sweet message!! It makes me incredibly happy (I immediately showed this ask to my fiancé because it made me BEAM) to hear that!!! I joined the Marauders fandom when I was 12/13 - originally by lurking and then eventually by fanfic creation myself. Back in the day, Jily was such of a commonplace ship!! When I was 17ish? I started getting into art, and I created some very rough Marauders fanart because I was very immersed in the world & fandom. Unfortunately, during the big bad Corona, I started to fall out of love with the Marauders fandom due to all the controversies within it - and the rise of certain ships I personally disagreed with. I felt like I had to conform to the new look of Marauders content or cease creation. (This wasn't ACTUALLY the case, I just didn't have the headspace and growth mindset at the time to realize that inherently other creators or myself are doing nothing wrong by simply just doing what they love.) I've always wanted to create a blog specifically for the Marauders, but I felt as though I missed the "prime". I've since realized that is not true!! The Marauders are an incredibly fan-nurtured niche in the canon Harry Potter fandom! The fans keep it alive by breathing new life into it. So, I decided with this blog, I would create a space where I felt comfortable to share the part of the Marauders that *I* personally originally fell in love with. That's what I think is the beauty of this fandom- at its core - we all share these characters and nobody has the right to make anyone feel unwelcomed in it! Personally, one of the things I love about the Marauders is Jily! It's been a dream come true to see that there are such supportive and kind people in this fandom - like yourself - who support new creators even though the content may not be as popular as it once was. So, really from the bottom of my heart, thank *you* for taking the time to send this in my ask box! And thank you for bearing with my needlessly long post lol

[mistermxxnys]

Love love love ur Jily art so much. Ur so talented. Such a delight to see ur art in my dashboard everytime❤❤

!?!?!?!?!?! <3 <3 <3 <3 I wanted to sincerely thank you for this incredibly sweet comment!! As a small artist, asks like this really motivate me and make me feel like my art can make someone smile. This ask has made me smile and was a delight to find resting in my inbox. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to a send a message my way. ♡

[mistermxxnys]

if anyone has any marauders art requests,, my asks are open,,, and my brainrot is itching for prompts

[maxladcomics]

I feel like this fandom associated the fear of forgetting with Gaster so much, that many kind of forgot how the whole game is touching upon that. Not the fear per se, but the concept of forgetting/leaving behind, either willingly or forcefully. The Monsters entirely forgot how Humans look like (except one-two), some of them acted like Toriel just didn't exist after she left for the Ruins, Flowey tells you to leave the best ending, asks to not erase it and then says that if we do erase it, then we have to make him forget too. Like, I know the fandom focuses on RESETs a lot, especially when it comes to Chara/Sans about how they deal with either still remembering or them realising they don't remember, but come on, Asriel is right there with one of the most genuine fears a child can have throughout growing up. Anyways, this is my little rant, my apologies - pentoll

THIS IS A GREAT RANT

I think it's interesting because the first few characters I associate with the fear of forgetting or being forgotten would be Goner Kid, Papyrus and maybe Alphys for some reason. I think Flowey and Asriel need more attention! Which I will try to give, in my AU's and comics whenigettodrawingthem.

But that is a good point! I can't remember if it was mentioned in the game but I think they're prone to forgetting about other monsters and bad things to prevent them losing hope, they're all in a very fragile state. They have been underground for so long that most monsters (except Gerson, Asgore and Toriel) don't know what the surface is like, and only have a vague promise that one more human can get them out.

Most monsters haven't lived long enough to know that Toriel existed, and considering Gerson is the only one that speaks of her- it's very likely the only ones that were aware of her are either already gone, or they avoid the subject because it causes them grief. Asgore does this as well, his diary saying "Good day today!" on every page says a lot.

I went kinda off topic I guess, BUT! I do agree that Asriel and Flowey have a lot to them, and a lot of potential to explore their fears and what they've been through.

I do plan on having Flowey in a future comic so this gives me some things to think on.. He was just going to hang out and make some jokes and sneer at a few things but maybe he should get some time to vent or show his feelings on things.. HMHM.

[maxladcomics]

I mentioned it ages ago, and I don’t know if I can explain it properly but LET ME TRY

So I believe that time flows differently on the outside of the underground, compared to inside the barrier.

This is because, Flowey has been causing resets for potentially years, reverting to the same day he suddenly existed. He doesn’t have direct access or ability to use a save location like you, the player. He explains this himself, he only has the one save point he can load from.

He mentions wasting weeks with Asgore, trying to make himself feel something. 

He reset over and over a few times, then did a pacifist run, he implies doing this more than once. Then he goes on a murder run. He doesn’t mention if he’s done this more than once, but considering his excessive checking of every option on pacifist runs, it’s very likely.

Flowey doesn’t mention anything different from what we know. He doesn’t mention Papyrus and his brother moving into snowdin, he doesn’t mention MTT becoming big which happened recently (implied by the water fountain).

There is an obvious huge gap between his previous life, and his current one. But he didn’t show confusion at discovering Toriel in the ruins, so that’s kinda weird lol. ANYWAY.

Flowey doesn’t talk about anything being different to what you experience. It’s very likely that the monsters he murdered on his routes were the same ones you can choose to. The ones you can spare, befriend, is the same.

The question is, of course, is how long he’s been doing this.

His save point is at the exact same time and place, and it’s unknown what he’s done before you came in. But obviously- my main guess is that he’s only been in the underground for around a week, more accurately, 8 days.

This is my main reason to assume that time is different inside the barrier. Flowey mentions being with Asgore for WEEKS, but if time was the same inside and out, then you would have come through around his first run.

This guess builds off of a few things- things that Flowey says to you, things that other monsters say, and the things Flowey has already done on his current run.

Flowey has already befriended Papyrus on this route, he doesn’t mention that Papyrus lived anywhere else, or anything about him moving to Snowdin. The shopkeeper mentions that the skeletons just appeared one day- so it’s still new enough to mention.. or maybe it was odd enough to mention.

The flowers are still in the lab, and Alphys makes the instant connection between Flowey and the “tiny flower” that Papyrus mentions. She doesn’t question it- she obviously knows who it is, even if she’s never? met Flowey in this route. But she has cameras, so she’s most likely seen him, she knows where he’s from.

Papyrus implies that things have changed within the last 8 days, by telling Sans he hasn’t calibrated his puzzles for this long. So it’s very likely that Sans only recently became ‘aware’ of resets. Obviously he’s always been a comedian (that might actually hate puns or just conveniently ignores them when he’s not the one telling them idk) but he’s always been lazy and messy so maybe he hasn’t really changed that much.

Anyway I’m basically saying that time reset over and over inside the barrier, while time went on outside, to eventually allow Frisk to fall down.

[maxladcomics]

I'm dying to know what you mean by that

I have this theory that Sans doesn't know who Papyrus really is. Papyrus puts on a distinct act around him, sure, they joke around like brothers, but Sans obviously thinks Papyrus is an idiot, or at least believes he can't handle knowing about the anomaly/resets when he obviously already does.

..to clarify, Sans doesn't directly know about resets, but he knows they exist. He doesn't even know that Flowey was the main cause of all the resets up until the human fell. (He implies it in the murder run)

Papyrus tries to get information out of Sans during a murder run if you close the game and reopen (maybe die? idk I don't die that early on lol) but Sans just plays dumb with him on it. Papyrus directly experienced déjà vu, and Sans plays off his his enquiring about it as a joke.

In the neutral run, Sans asks you about the talking flower, he doesn't know it by name. But he doesn't bring it up with Papyrus during all the shenanigans earlier, does he doubt his information? They're both liars, are they both aware of that fact? Or is one lying so excessively that the truth is impossible to find?

...I'm implying that Papyrus is lying so much that no one actually knows who he is. He gives hints, and we get some details thanks to Undyne's shenanigans, but you never see anything of the real Papyrus around Sans.

AND THAT IS VERY INTERESTING.

To add to that:

Papyrus points out recognizing the dog food bag in Alphys' lab, then mentions he saw it in sans' room. BUT.

You can check his room and there is no dog food there.. The dog food bowl is in the lab. Papyrus has dog food in the shed for you when you lose his battle. PAPYRUS IS LYING TO YOU.

Papyrus manipulates Undyne into befriending the human, and people think he folds on liking Grillbys' greasy food because she shows favour towards it..

BUT- in the motel, Undyne talks about going on a vacation, and they both get excited for it, before Papyrus simply mentions he was being sarcastic, and "WOULD NEVER GO ON A HOLIDAY FOR ANY REASON."

Papyrus LIED. He's also a workaholic.

He is way too suspicious.

[maxladcomics]

Re: your post about Sans not actually knowing Papyrus. I'm a fan of the 'Papyrus is Gaster, but because everyone has forgotten Gaster, Papyrus has also forgotten himself' theory. And I had Thoughts of along similar lines to 'no one really knows Papyrus because he always lies', albeit from a slightly. Different source?

That is, Papyrus DOES lie a lot. But the people who seem to care about him most and actively seek his company, and the characters who are the most affected by him are all characters with high amounts of Determination.

Like, sure, yeah. if you kill Papyrus, Sans vanishes and then asks you about how you should be wielding power, and he may threaten you at the end of a phone call. But overall, his role in the game doesn't change much at all, and his attitude in the endings seems more representative of the Underground's attitude.

But as we know, Flowey is the previous holder of reset. We know he's probably the person who actually knows the most about Papyrus(only one to REALLY know his favorite food), and he's also confessed Papyrus is the person he finds the most interesting.

But! There's also Undyne! Now, she may not know as much about Papyrus as Flowey does, and I think she projects her own view of him onto him. But she's probably the character who talks about Papyrus as a friend the most. From Sans' dialogue about Papyrus, he views him as someone naive in need of protection. And to basically everyone else, Papyrus is not Papyrus, but who he is in connection to those around him. A skeleton who informs Undyne of problems, Sans loud and tall brother, etc.

But Undyne... Papyrus still lies to her, and she still thinks Papyrus is too nice, but she acknowledges his strength. She doesn't want to upset him, she wants to see him succeed and tries to help him do so in her own way, by giving him something to be passionate about. And when you kill him, it enrages her. I'm sure it enrages Sans, too, but she doesn't just judge you for it, confronts you much earlier and demands to know what you did to Papyrus.

So I wonder if there's. Something like a not-my-problem field around Papyrus, or spacetime distortion, that causes only people with Determination to really see him? Not that his lies make it any easier. it could also just be the lying, that's a lot simpler and more likely, but I do agree that Sans definitely does not know Papyrus anywhere near as much as he thinks he does, and is just running on a number of assumptions. Which is simultaneously weird and sad, that Papyrus has so few friends and not even his brother can really be counted among them.

...At any rate! Hope you enjoyed my rambling and found it interesting!

I DO FIND THAT INTERESTING.

Actually that brings up a good point, how forgettable or even ignore-able Papyrus is. Maybe he's yelling because no one pays attention to him pfff, I mean he tells so many jokes just for them to go over peoples heads, he shows excessive consideration towards others, just for the fandom to assume he's an asshole because he 'reacts badly' to puns.

//For those that don't know, they are doing a bit/playing with you. Sans' puns wouldn't be anywhere near as funny if Papyrus didn't react to them the way he does. Which makes it weirder to why Sans doesn't react to his at all. Why would he ignore them when it obviously makes him happy that Papyrus reacts? It's not just sans, tho, Undyne doesn't seem to notice or react to his puns either, but he responds to hers.//

The entire underground- or at least I know the entirety of Snowdin is affected when he's dusted. They all feel unsafe and unsettled suddenly, Papyrus has a huge effect on them. I do really love Undyne's response to him being dusted, the fact she knows he answers after two rings of his phone, means they talk a lot, and I love that.

Sans's reaction gives me the impression of "ok we're doing this run, byyyyeee" He only calls you a dirty brother killer, nothing else. He seems to care more about murdering you on a pacifist run than any other... I'm not hating on Sans for this, I'm just pointing it out- his vague awareness has put him in a mood of "Nothing REALLY matters" so it's because of that he doesn't really seem to care about Papyrus dying. He'll just call you a dirty brother killer and move into Toriel's house. Probably because he doesn't wanna deal with anyone asking about Papyrus, she doesn't know he exists, after all.