#matching porsches masterpost

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MARTIAN'S MATCHING PORSCHE 911 GT2 RS CARS: A MASTERPOST

are you ready to feel parasocial about a pair of matching porsches, one of which may or may not even exist? you've come to the right place!

SECTIONS:

what is the 2010 Porsche 911 GT2 RS?

what's been said about the matching cars

timeline

unanswered questions and speculation

WHAT IS THE 2010 PORSCHE 911 GT2 RS?

well, it's her (source in watermark)

though she's been upstaged by her counterparts in the last decade, at the time, the gt2 rs was the most powerful road car porsche had ever built. only 500 were made. one of which, as we all know, came into the paws of one mark webber--another, presumably, found a home in sebastian vettel's garage. why do i say presumably? well..

WHAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT THE MATCHING CARS

rather than making you squint at a bunch of screencaps, i'm just going to copy and paste the quotes that are out there..

“[The 911 GTS RS] is a beast! It’s got biblical power – the amount of torque is phenomenal. Sebastian [Vettel] bought one as well back in the day, we bought one together pretty much and I think he’s had a few tricky moments in his! They’re proper machines, those things. I think the engine’s probably a little bit big for the body, but in the right hands she’s a machine!” Red Bull. july 28, 2016.

Webber said he shopped for a new ride with teammate Sebastian Vettel and both agreed that the Porsche made the most sense. He's extremely happy with the GT2's performance, comfort and race car-like driving dynamics. Auto123, date unknown. the video in question

“I think it was around Monaco Grand Prix time, [Red Bull teammate] Sebastian Vettel and I were looking at some cars,” Webber said. “I’m not big on my road cars, to be honest, but when we started talking about this one it was a no-brainer.” But instead of pulling any strings using his formula one fame, Webber reportedly strolled into a UK Porsche dealer to order his new wheels personally. Drive. October 7, 2016.

“As a young guy, growing up in Australia, the Porsche 911 was definitive. I remember talking to Sebastian Vettel when the GT2 came out, about the power, the way it looked. He said, ‘what do you reckon?’ I said, ‘we should both get one’, so we did. If you take a 911 to a track day it’s the car that’s running around out there still working, with its brakes still working, at the end of the day. It’s a Porsche. You know that. We all know that. Brakes are important, you know." Top Gear Malaysia. date unknown, but since the headline is "mark webber has retired from racing," i'm going to pin it at sometime around november, 2016

“… Monte Carlo Grand Prix, 2010. I was sitting with Sebastian Vettel, and we were looking at the new 997 GT2 RS. And he said, ‘Shit, we need to buy one of those, you know?’ And I said, ‘yeah, we need—both of us.’ So I think that night, Monaco, after qualifying, we, uh. I didn’t outqualify Seb often, but that day, lucky, I kicked his ass, I was on pole position and he was not qualifying that well. And I said, ‘you still gonna buy the 911?’ And he said, ‘yeah, we should buy it.’ So he got a black one, I got a white one...” fan video from the weekend of oct 2-3, 2021.

and though nothing was mentioned about matching cars, they're driving the same model (DEFINITELY different car though, one purchased by the red bull ring) in the now-famous martian taxi drivers instagram post, where mark says, “At the end of the day we even drove each other for a few laps. That’s the biggest bloody endorsement a street car can have, F1 drivers wanting to do more laps for the own pleasure😉👌🏽” april 24, 2020. this is the only allusion to the car i can find that is not only from 2010, but also shows that seb so much as touched a 2010 porsche 911 gt2 rs.

now, you may ask, why are you being so cagey about seb and his porsche?

well, the thing is. sebastian vettel has not so much as breathed a WORD to the media about owning a porsche 911, much less matching one with mark. as far as i can tell from the numerous searches i've done, anyway. everything we know about their matching porsches has come from mark.

TIMELINE

so with that, let's piece it together:

some point on thurs/fri of the monaco gp (may 13 or 14, 2010): martian see the 911 and they're like. hot damn. seb says what do u think. mark says let's get one each.

saturday (may 15): mark beats seb in qualifying, then gloatingly asks if seb is still in the mood to buy the porsche. and because seb is insane, he says yes.

some unidentified point in the future, likely in the break between monaco and turkey because i sincerely doubt mark was in the mood to go car shopping with seb after that (may 16-26): they buy the porsches. mark buys a white one, seb buys a black one.

2016: they don't speak about this to anyone in the media until mark retires from racing for good. when questioned about his favourite porsche cars, only THEN does he even mention that this car matching business took place at all. and, unprompted, repeats this story to multiple news outlets when asked about the 911.

we're faced with several years of silence until 2021, when the story pops up again.

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND SPECULATION

have you ever thought it weird that something as clinically insane as matching cars with your rival was never given more media attention than a passing few lines in some articles? somehow, either nobody has asked about the fact that Thee most fractious relationship in contemporary f1 bought matching cars, or they DID ask and were effectively muzzled, which is telling in and of itself. and check the dates: 2016. 2016. 2016. 2020. 2021. they did not only keep this under wraps until mark retired and became a full time porsche #influencer. one of them is either STILL KEEPING IT UNDER WRAPS...

... or doesn't have the car at all.

does seb even own this porsche? why have we only heard of it from mark's mouth? there are so many articles on ~road cars f1 drivers own~ but none of them even mention seb having it. so what's the truth? did he never buy one and only tell mark he did? does it stay dusty under a cover in his garage, never to see the light of day? did he buy it and then immediately sell it/give it away after turkey? or because it was like, purposefully to match with mark, is it one of the things he's Sentimental about that he's viciously protective of and keeps out of the spotlight?

mark goes into detail and says that seb got a black porsche, so that must mean that it EXISTS? surely?? well, we take that for granted, but we may never actually know.

another thing: notice how in the Drive article, mark reportedly went to a uk dealership in person to order the car? if he and seb bought them together, does that mean they also went to the dealership... together? and if we take this to be true, does that then mean they physically went to a porsche dealership in the uk just weeks before they collided in turkey and their relationship tripped and fell off a cliff? or did they go separately in person, or did only mark go in person and seb order through connections?

yet another thing: in the "Mark Webber and his 911 GT2 RS" video linked above next to auto123, he drives a black 911 and seems to imply that the car is his: "i'm definitely not gonna be parting with this one." but the car is black. and he says he got a white one. WHAT? [EDIT: the one in the video may be the 2011 model and not the 2010 model he bought with seb]

AND ANOTHER THING TO NOTE: while the internet was surely a Widespread Phenomenon in 2010, there may very well have been printed news about the matching cars that never got digitally archived. unfortunately i do not have a time machine, so that's up in the air for now.

but that's it! that's everything we know about martian's matching porsches. i will be updating this post as more info comes to light, so if i've missed anything, pls let me know!

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Fire, Water and Smoke Imagery in ep 14

Over 8000 words of thoughts on the fire and water imagery in this series and now we're finally here... honestly I have spent far too many hours of my life thinking about swimming pools and cigarettes, I'll be glad for a break 😂 (actually no I won't, I'm gonna miss doing these so much!)

Let's get into it.

A callback to Porsche's phoenix, and a visual of the memory he was telling Kinn about in episode 4: to grow up and become the phoenix, and take care of himself and Chay. Porsche has held onto the freedom of being true to himself throughout, and has shown that same freedom to Kinn, allowing him to become his full self. By the end of the episode Porsche is reborn into a new version of himself, one that rules by Kinn's side: freed by their love for each other.

This shot of Gun/Kun/Kan victory smoking is almost perfectly match cut with Porsche tipping his head back in distress in the previous scene. It's a clear indication and contrast of how they are both feeling—Porsche falling apart because he has no idea what's going on or what the truth is, and Gun sitting happy in his pre-conceived victory.

Gosh RIP Daddy Chan!!! Going out in style still doing his duty to the end by warning Kinn that the minor family were coming, and lighting up a smoke to see him over to the other side. The ultimate comfort cigarette.

The pool that Vegas "dies" next to is yet another new swimming pool in the main family complex. I'm actually really glad that they didn't go with the main central one, as too much of its meaning is caught up in Korn and Kinn, and instead gave VP their own pool. They're covered in the reflections from the pool for almost all of their dialogue, and when Vegas falls (depending on which shot you look at) he's almost in the water. I've often posited that water/swimming pools have to do with the main family, and I wonder if this isn't something about the inescapability of Vegas' demise while still in that shadow—or watery reflection—of that main family.

I don't have masses of thoughts on Kim smoking but as it is my duty to report each time a character does—he's clearly thinking of Chay.

Ahhh, my beautiful episode 1 callback. The same boat. The same river. The same section of river and buildings in the background. KP on equal footing. The lights on the water throwing back to their first kiss.

And still surrounded by the water. Still surrounded by the huge mafia expanse of it. More in the heart of it, in fact, than ever. And I have to be honest—I wasn't sure it was going to end up like this. There is a part of me that wonders (hopes?) that if we do get a s2, they will be able to get away from that huge expanse of still, reflective water—get away from the leadership of it all and experience some of the quiet, loving life together that they have both dreamed of.

But is true freedom like that fully attainable, for people with so much in their pasts and such deep devotion to their families? Right now, I don't think it matters, because they have each other. They have promised themselves to each other. Mafia bosses or not, that's never going to change, and now matter where they are or how much water is surrounding them, they'll be holding on tight to each other.

And so we end up here: with the victor, and his two poor fish, kept in separate tanks trying to fight each other till someone ends up dead. Korn is still very much playing the long game. He is still very much scheming. And while he may be sitting pretty for now, I don't think the Porsche we know and love is going to allow him to remain there for long... especially not if Nampheung is the final key to the puzzle.

To read the other 8000 words of fire/water/smoking meta throughout all the episodes, you can check out my masterpost google doc [some of the earlier stuff and probably intro still needs updating], or the individual episode write-ups I've been posting here on tumblr since ep 9.

Mirrors and reflections in this episode

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Metas and sundry

Collecting my metas and other stuff in one place for easy access. Updated irregularly.

KinnPorsche Subtitles: Send a message if you're interested in receiving a copy of my edited version of the KinnPorsche subtitles! They are uncensored, grammar/spelling-checked, phi-inclusive, and re-timed. Details here.

Fanfiction: See the masterpost of fic stuff uploaded to Tumblr here.

KinnPorsche Meta:

Ep 2: Pete's portrait

Ep 5: Motorcycle ride: A false comfort for Porsche and viewer alike

Ep 6: Forgiveness and the irreconcilability of Kinn's personas

Ep 7: Why we're all trapped in the bathroom: Framing a high-connection, high-physicality sex scene

Ep 9: Was Vegas listening to the sermon?

Ep 10: Tankhun adapts his style for the role he plans to play

Ep 10: Pete and Porsche's fight scene: Right hand on the gun

Ep 10: Vegas's portrait

Ep 10: What's in Vegas's secret room?

Ep 10: Vegas's predatory prints: a slow reveal

Ep 11: Vegas's first panic and a refusal of control

Ep 11: The pill kiss: Not proof but promise

Ep 11: Crossing chains, removing boundaries

Ep 12: Was leaving the handcuff key intentional?

Ep 12: Korn: Another terrible Theerapanyakul pet-owner

Ep 11/12: Wound-tending and sex: These parallels are a great time

Ep 13: The plate drops, the bubble pops

Ep 11/12/13: Vegas's anti-mirror meta

Ep 14: The post-credits scene: Breaking free of the narrative

Other KinnPorsche Tidbits:

Ep 6: Listen, search and rescue is hard

Ep 7: The reality of Vegas: Porsche can't look, Pete can't look away

Ep 7: VegasPete: Matching halves in green 1 and 2

Ep 8: Savoring the bubble

Eps 8 & 9: The Buddhist mantras translated

Ep 11: Face grab: These parallels are a bad time

Ep 11: Ill-suited habitats: Vegas doesn't know how to keep what is in his care

Ep 11: Predatory prints: The snake shirt drops!

Ep 11: The game Tankhun and co are playing when Chay pops up

Ep 12: Pete ignores multiple escape routes

Ep 12: Out of the business? Unlikely, Porsche

Ep 13: The VegasPete sex song

Ep 14: Kim and Chan knew

Meta in other fandoms:

Dear Doctor I'm Coming for Soul: Organ donation as redemptive act

Dear Doctor I'm Coming for Soul: A turning point in Prakan's relationship with death

Secret Crush on You: SkyJao: Subverting the scrunched-face kiss trope

War of Y: Koon's order of priorities

Tidbits in other fandoms:

Be Loved in House: I Do: Wu Siqi would fit in my pocket and you can't convince me otherwise

Plus and Minus: Zheng Zeshou and the fear of abandonment 1 and 2

Mr. Unlucky: Fukuhara unphased by homelessness

Moonlight Chicken: Gaipha's mother's medications

Moonlight Chicken: Gaipha's chicken-contaminated hands

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Porsche and changes in his style

KinnPosche costume design masterpost

So, Porsche BK (before Kinn) used to have 2 types of clothes: shirts for the bar/university and T-shirts for all other occasions. His life was not easy, but it was simple enough, and there was no need for anything else. As an underground fighter, he chose to take his T-shirt off entirely.

When he joins the mafia, his bar/university clothes is replaced with a uniform which he hates. He feels extremely uncomfortable and out of place (both in the mafia and in the uniform), and we can see how he loathes the jackets as the quintessence of structure and hierarchy. He seems to feel okay with the undershirts though.

With time, Porsche seems to accept the uniform (without a jacket), and it reflects how he gradually becomes more serious about the job, and he's also found his place within the hierarchy.

After EP4, when you-know-what happens, he wears layers with his casual T-shirt for the first time. But when he returns home to Chay, he gets back to his T-shirts. I've seen some comments that he started to dress in a less revealing way because of what happened to him - if it's about the tiddies-out look, I think he dropped the half-open shirts as soon as he started working for Kinn, and that layered outfit (that Kinn would wear later) was the only brief change after EP4.

In EP7, Porsche wears a lot of new outfits. All of them are practical, and he does look comfortable in them. He finally conforms to the rules and does whatever is needed from him, and he does it to protect Kinn's place and authority. He tried to blend into the crowd in the casino, he matched the team in the attacks.

In EP8, Porsche switches clothes with Kinn. He doesn't choose a suit or even just a dress shirt, but he chooses a soft pullover. Despite accepting his role for the moment, a suit still isn't something he'd pick.

I think it's endearing that the dark blue pullover is something of Kinn's that Porsche chooses for himself to enjoy. It's the softer side of Kinn that he loves and needs.

And he wears a layered casual outfit again in Yok's bar. Emotional turmoil? Trying to conceil his vulnerable state? Both, I believe.

But my personal favourite detail is when Porsche finally rips his uniform to pieces with Kinn's approval. GOOD FOR YOU, KING! You've been waiting for ages!

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[For Mobile Users] Compiled Info

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Season 2 Information

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“Here we go again…”

Welcome back to Mixedverse!

The previous server ended awhile back, but due to prolonged interest in the AU and people wanting to do more for it, we’ve rebooted it! It’s a bit different now, though.

When we began the last server, most people didn’t really understand how things worked or exactly what was happening. Our biggest misunderstanding was assuming that MV (Mirrorverse) characters were being brought into the NV (Normalverse) world, rather then them both being merged into a middle ground.

Although that is still our official lore for this AU, we decided for the RP server we would go along with it! So…

For our AU, it’s the opposite of that.

The characters from the NV world have been sucked into the MV world, while going about their business. All you have to do to get there is blink.

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The most important changes have been to the application and muse receiving processes.

Applications for the most part have stayed the same, however there’s a new concept called muse lock that we’re using.

There are short periods where muses are unlocked. You may claim characters, trade characters with other people, and whatever else you wish to do with them during this time. However..

When you are muse locked you may not claim any new characters or obtain new characters in anyway. The only thing that you can still do is drop muses, however they may not be replaced with a new one until the next time that muses are unlocked.

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Sadly, another thing that we’re going to be including is that you can only join while muses are unlocked. However, we will be accepting applications at any time! They’ll just only be approved once new muses can be taken. This also gives us time to look over everything and make sure that everyone has a fair shot at getting the muses that they want.

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Mixedverse AU Information

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“Two verses merge, they’re similar but the people that reside in them are.. very different. And no one knows who’s who.”

Welcome to the Mixedverse AU! It’s a Mirrorverse AU where MV characters and normal characters (Normalverse) have been introduced to a similar, middle-ground verse.

At first, they might not notice anything at first. Maybe they only run into people from the same verse at first- But then, they notice that one of their friends is actually COMPLETELY abnormal. Slowly but surely they’ll eventually realize that something is wrong.

This is a good opportunity to explore different types of relationships! As well as have a slightly over-arching plot over the entire story.

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Mirrorverse is an AU that was inspired by the Spookyfish episode of South Park, where a mirrored version of Stan, Kyle, and Cartman came into the world. It’s most commonly known where it was represented in a Kyman fanfic, as well as artwork from sleepyeule. You do not need to have read this fic.

The basic premise is that the characters are.. well, mirrored. That doesn’t mean they’re complete opposites, but some of their most important traits are removed. The best example of this is with Cartman. Mirrorverse Cartman has his general horrible and selfishness removed- Which leaves him kind, empathetic, but he’s still pretty gullible and manipulative like he is normally.

[Note; if anyone is shying away from taking an MV character because they either don’t know how a character would act or haven’t done it before- I suggest taking a muse you normally wouldn’t do since they’re going to be mirrored. As well as, ask for help if you’re having trouble at all.]

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Normalverse is a weird thing to call it, but it’s basically just the canon world! The characters are just as you know them, and there’s nothing too big to note.

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Masterpost

A list of all characters, available and unavailable.

[There are separate lists for Mirrorverse and Normalverse, scroll past the Normalverse list for the Mirrorverse one.]

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Main boys:

Eric Cartman

Kyle Broflovski

Stan Marsh

Kenny McCormick

Butters Stotch

Craig’s group:

Craig Tucker

Clyde Donovan

Jimmy Valmer

Token Black

Tweek Tweak

Girls:

Annie Knitts

Bebe Stevens

Charlotte

Esther

Ferrari (Raisins Girl)

Heidi Turner

Jenny Simon

Jessica Rodriguez

Leslie Meyers

Lexus Martin (Raisins Girl)

Lisa Berger

Lola

Mercedes (Raisins Girl)

Millie Larsen

Monica Ryland

Nichole

Patty Nelson

Porsche (Raisins Girl)

Rebecca Cotswolds

Red

Sally Darson

Tammy Warner

Wendy Testaburger

Goths:

Firkle

Henrietta Biggle

Michael

Pete Thelman

Vamp Kids:

Allison Mertz

Annie Bartlett

Larry

Katie “Bloodrayne” Gelson

Mike “Vampir” Makowski

Ryan Ellis

Vladimir

Kindergardeners:

Carlos/Billy

Conner Davis

Dave Harrison

Filmore Anderson

Flora

Ike Broflovski

Jenny

Quaid

Sally Bands

Other kids:

Baahir Hassan Abdul Hakeem

Bill Allen

Blanket Jefferson

Bradley (Cartman Sucks)

Bradley Biggle

Bridon Gueermo

Chris Donnely

Christophe Delorne

Corey Lanskin

Damien Thorn

David Rodriguez

Dogpoo Petuski

Douchebag (Stick of Truth)

Dougie (General Disarray)

Douglas

Estella Havisham

Fosse McDonald

Gary Harrison

Gregory of Yardale

Herbert Pocket

Jessica Pinkerton

Josh Myers (TP Kid)

Karen McCormick

Kelly (Rainforest Schmainforest)

Kevin McCormick

Kevin Stoley

Kip Drordy

Kyle Schwartz

Larry Feegan

Loogie

Mark Cotswolds

Nathan

Pip Pirrup

Romper Stomper

Scott Malkinson

Scott Tenorman

Shelly Marsh

Terrance Mephesto

Thad Jarvis

Thomas (Le Petit Tourette)

Timmy Burch

Trent Boyett

Tricia “Ruby” Tucker

Yao

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Main boys:

Eric Cartman

Kyle Broflovski

Stan Marsh

Kenny McCormick

Butters Stotch

Craig’s group:

Craig Tucker

Clyde Donovan

Jimmy Valmer

Token Black

Tweek Tweak

Girls:

Annie Knitts

Bebe Stevens

Charlotte

Esther

Ferrari (Raisins Girl)

Heidi Turner

Jenny Simon

Jessica Rodriguez

Leslie Meyers

Lexus Martin (Raisins Girl)

Lisa Berger

Lola

Mercedes (Raisins Girl)

Millie Larsen

Monica Ryland

Nichole

Patty Nelson

Porsche (Raisins Girl)

Rebecca Cotswolds

Red

Sally Darson

Tammy Warner

Wendy Testaburger

Goths:

Firkle

Henrietta Biggle

Michael

Pete Thelman

Vamp Kids:

Allison Mertz

Annie Bartlett

Larry

Katie “Bloodrayne” Gelson

Mike “Vampir” Makowski

Ryan Ellis

Vladimir

Kindergarteners:

Carlos/Billy

Conner Davis

Dave Harrison

Filmore Anderson

Flora

Ike Broflovski

Jenny

Quaid

Sally Bands

Other kids:

Baahir Hassan Abdul Hakeem

Bill Allen

Blanket Jefferson

Bradley (Cartman Sucks)

Bradley Biggle

Bridon Gueermo

Chris Donnely

Christophe Delorne

Corey Lanskin

Damien Thorn

David Rodriguez

Dogpoo Petuski

Douchebag (Stick of Truth)

Dougie (General Disarray)

Douglas

Estella Havisham

Fosse McDonald

Gary Harrison

Gregory of Yardale

Herbert Pocket

Jessica Pinkerton

Josh Myers (TP Kid)

Karen McCormick

Kelly (Rainforest Schmainforest)

Kevin McCormick

Kevin Stoley

Kip Drordy

Kyle Schwartz

Larry Feegan

Loogie

Mark Cotswolds

Nathan

Pip Pirrup

Romper Stomper

Scott Malkinson

Scott Tenorman

Shelly Marsh

Terrance Mephesto

Thad Jarvis

Thomas (Le Petit Tourette)

Timmy Burch

Trent Boyett

Tricia “Ruby” Tucker

Yao

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excellent addition!!

[ID: a screencap with tags that read: "THEORY: it would make sense if seb bought the 911 over the dealership just as mark did; it's not featured in any articles. why? because seb says fuck all about his cars. what we know about which cars seb owns/has owned are through auction provenience. when is there no (semi-)publicly available provenience? exactly. when a car is bought at a dealership/without being bought through connections who then brag about having gotten a car for xy. so the dealership theory has definitely some weight to it.]

with you here pauline!! thank you for this!!!!

and another addition (does it count as a correction?): in the timeline section, i say that they don't speak about matching cars until 2016, which is somewhat accurate. in the video linked, mark explicitly mentions that he and seb were at least looking at the 911 together.

MARTIAN'S MATCHING PORSCHE 911 GT2 RS CARS: A MASTERPOST

are you ready to feel parasocial about a pair of matching porsches, one of which may or may not even exist? you've come to the right place!

SECTIONS:

what is the 2010 Porsche 911 GT2 RS?

what's been said about the matching cars

timeline

unanswered questions and speculation

WHAT IS THE 2010 PORSCHE 911 GT2 RS?

well, it's her (source in watermark)

though she's been upstaged by her counterparts in the last decade, at the time, the gt2 rs was the most powerful road car porsche had ever built. only 500 were made. one of which, as we all know, came into the paws of one mark webber--another, presumably, found a home in sebastian vettel's garage. why do i say presumably? well..

WHAT'S BEEN SAID ABOUT THE MATCHING CARS

rather than making you squint at a bunch of screencaps, i'm just going to copy and paste the quotes that are out there..

“[The 911 GTS RS] is a beast! It’s got biblical power – the amount of torque is phenomenal. Sebastian [Vettel] bought one as well back in the day, we bought one together pretty much and I think he’s had a few tricky moments in his! They’re proper machines, those things. I think the engine’s probably a little bit big for the body, but in the right hands she’s a machine!” Red Bull. july 28, 2016.

Webber said he shopped for a new ride with teammate Sebastian Vettel and both agreed that the Porsche made the most sense. He's extremely happy with the GT2's performance, comfort and race car-like driving dynamics. Auto123, date unknown. the video in question

“I think it was around Monaco Grand Prix time, [Red Bull teammate] Sebastian Vettel and I were looking at some cars,” Webber said. “I’m not big on my road cars, to be honest, but when we started talking about this one it was a no-brainer.” But instead of pulling any strings using his formula one fame, Webber reportedly strolled into a UK Porsche dealer to order his new wheels personally. Drive. October 7, 2016.

“As a young guy, growing up in Australia, the Porsche 911 was definitive. I remember talking to Sebastian Vettel when the GT2 came out, about the power, the way it looked. He said, ‘what do you reckon?’ I said, ‘we should both get one’, so we did. If you take a 911 to a track day it’s the car that’s running around out there still working, with its brakes still working, at the end of the day. It’s a Porsche. You know that. We all know that. Brakes are important, you know." Top Gear Malaysia. date unknown, but since the headline is "mark webber has retired from racing," i'm going to pin it at sometime around november, 2016

“… Monte Carlo Grand Prix, 2010. I was sitting with Sebastian Vettel, and we were looking at the new 997 GT2 RS. And he said, ‘Shit, we need to buy one of those, you know?’ And I said, ‘yeah, we need—both of us.’ So I think that night, Monaco, after qualifying, we, uh. I didn’t outqualify Seb often, but that day, lucky, I kicked his ass, I was on pole position and he was not qualifying that well. And I said, ‘you still gonna buy the 911?’ And he said, ‘yeah, we should buy it.’ So he got a black one, I got a white one...” fan video from the weekend of oct 2-3, 2021.

and though nothing was mentioned about matching cars, they're driving the same model (DEFINITELY different car though, one purchased by the red bull ring) in the now-famous martian taxi drivers instagram post, where mark says, “At the end of the day we even drove each other for a few laps. That’s the biggest bloody endorsement a street car can have, F1 drivers wanting to do more laps for the own pleasure😉👌🏽” april 24, 2020. this is the only allusion to the car i can find that is not only from 2010, but also shows that seb so much as touched a 2010 porsche 911 gt2 rs.

now, you may ask, why are you being so cagey about seb and his porsche?

well, the thing is. sebastian vettel has not so much as breathed a WORD to the media about owning a porsche 911, much less matching one with mark. as far as i can tell from the numerous searches i've done, anyway. everything we know about their matching porsches has come from mark.

TIMELINE

so with that, let's piece it together:

some point on thurs/fri of the monaco gp (may 13 or 14, 2010): martian see the 911 and they're like. hot damn. seb says what do u think. mark says let's get one each.

saturday (may 15): mark beats seb in qualifying, then gloatingly asks if seb is still in the mood to buy the porsche. and because seb is insane, he says yes.

some unidentified point in the future, likely in the break between monaco and turkey because i sincerely doubt mark was in the mood to go car shopping with seb after that (may 16-26): they buy the porsches. mark buys a white one, seb buys a black one.

2016: they don't speak about this to anyone in the media until mark retires from racing for good. when questioned about his favourite porsche cars, only THEN does he even mention that this car matching business took place at all. and, unprompted, repeats this story to multiple news outlets when asked about the 911.

we're faced with several years of silence until 2021, when the story pops up again.

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS AND SPECULATION

have you ever thought it weird that something as clinically insane as matching cars with your rival was never given more media attention than a passing few lines in some articles? somehow, either nobody has asked about the fact that Thee most fractious relationship in contemporary f1 bought matching cars, or they DID ask and were effectively muzzled, which is telling in and of itself. and check the dates: 2016. 2016. 2016. 2020. 2021. they did not only keep this under wraps until mark retired and became a full time porsche #influencer. one of them is either STILL KEEPING IT UNDER WRAPS...

... or doesn't have the car at all.

does seb even own this porsche? why have we only heard of it from mark's mouth? there are so many articles on ~road cars f1 drivers own~ but none of them even mention seb having it. so what's the truth? did he never buy one and only tell mark he did? does it stay dusty under a cover in his garage, never to see the light of day? did he buy it and then immediately sell it/give it away after turkey? or because it was like, purposefully to match with mark, is it one of the things he's Sentimental about that he's viciously protective of and keeps out of the spotlight?

mark goes into detail and says that seb got a black porsche, so that must mean that it EXISTS? surely?? well, we take that for granted, but we may never actually know.

another thing: notice how in the Drive article, mark reportedly went to a uk dealership in person to order the car? if he and seb bought them together, does that mean they also went to the dealership... together? and if we take this to be true, does that then mean they physically went to a porsche dealership in the uk just weeks before they collided in turkey and their relationship tripped and fell off a cliff? or did they go separately in person, or did only mark go in person and seb order through connections?

yet another thing: in the "Mark Webber and his 911 GT2 RS" video linked above next to auto123, he drives a black 911 and seems to imply that the car is his: "i'm definitely not gonna be parting with this one." but the car is black. and he says he got a white one. WHAT? [EDIT: the one in the video may be the 2011 model and not the 2010 model he bought with seb]

AND ANOTHER THING TO NOTE: while the internet was surely a Widespread Phenomenon in 2010, there may very well have been printed news about the matching cars that never got digitally archived. unfortunately i do not have a time machine, so that's up in the air for now.

but that's it! that's everything we know about martian's matching porsches. i will be updating this post as more info comes to light, so if i've missed anything, pls let me know!