#marperly

[sometimesrosy]

So OperationBardo came out as a PR Twitter. Jason was aware of them. They gave out real and fake spoilers which I remember you saying would be the smart thing for spoiler accounts to do. Now they said Bellarke kiss but are not endgame. Now to me Bellarke kissing but then both dying I would still consider that as them being endgame. But I'm sure others wouldn't by definition of the term. What's your interpretation of a Bellarke endgame?

Honestly I think there are many ways to have endgame. Some of them happier than others. And I don’t really know how to answer that question.

He’s already said the show will have a bittersweet happy ending, he didn’t know if he’d end with hope for our heroes, or hope for everyone but not our heroes, that this is a TRAGEDY.

I still believe that according to the narrative of the show, in order to succeed, TOGETHER is the key phrase, and so is The Head and The Heart. And because Bellarke is the backbone of the show, the main relationship and the symbolic center of everything, that should mean that they end up together in an ending that has our heroes reaching victory and redeeming humanity. They have led their family to ALSO become heroes and leaders, so someone is there to take over after they are gone.

The metaphor of the binary stars is one that can be used here, because yes, the binary stars might go on forever in an equilibrium never meeting, but the story of bellarke, two soulmates who have been revolving around each other but not meeting are INDEED getting closer. What happens when they meet? They can either become one or they can supernova. 

Trying to figure out what that statement means, which might or might not be a fake spoiler (I TOLD YOU) and is quite likely to be misleading or at least ambiguous so that you could look at it multiple ways, since that’s the biggest secret they’ve had on this show, will they won’t they, is how you use it to help you figure out what it means.

Is BC kissing a truth or a lie?

Is not endgame a truth or a lie? 

Is not endgame an AMBIGUOUS statement that is messing with the definition of endgame? HOW might it be ambiguous? If they don’t make it to the end, then that’s not endgame maybe. Like if Bellamy dies after fifty years and they find Clarke alone, his widow after 51 years. OR they both die before the end of the story leaving only Clarke’s minddrive to tell the story of how they died together? Or their romance does not reflect on the endgame of the story which is about the last test/war? Or one of them dies and the other lives on honoring them? Or they both die but never get to really be together? Or there is no happily ever after because maybe endgame only counts if it’s happily ever after? Or they both find OTHER love interests to stick with? 

And I don’t actually remember what they said. Did they say bc wasn’t endgame? I just saw them say “i believe we said kiss, not endgame.” So does that mean what they SAID was kiss not endgame? It’s how the sentence was constructed. 

But it doesn’t matter what they actually said, they didn’t ruin it. If they said Bellarke wasn’t endgame, that could be a fake spoiler, which would fit with the whole “we can’t spoil whether or not bellarke is endgame” thing they’ve been doing for years. BUT it looks like that kiss script is real, which means canon, bitches.

I’m still holding out for endgame, whatever that ends up meaning. And not just some half way sorta interpretation. But my marperly ever after theory. Which could be counted in lack of endgame if they “die” before we get to the end of the series. Their game doesn’t reach the end. IDK and IDC. I’m sticking to my own theories backed up with canon narrative. And I’m quite pleased with this turn of events.

ANYWAY I just searched ob on twitter and am seeing people FURIOUS because it’s an official spoiler account and part of marketing and they feel betrayed that it was approved by JR. Which is just HYSTERICAL. 

I told y’all they are never satisfied. JR GIVES them real spoilers and infos, and adds in some fakes to not really spoil the excitement, and they take it as “manipulation” and not, like a gift. THEY WANTED MARKETING. They wanted spoilers. They wanted to be told what was coming. AND THEY GET IT. 

And it’s wrong/a betrayal?

Just nonsense. Total nonsense. Proving that all they want to do is find an enemy.

They’re less mad at the real fakes than they are at marketing trying to drum up excitement, make people think, toss out hints and not ruin it.

I am GLAD that they said some of it is real and some of it is fake. It’s like a that game, two truths and a lie and FAR more fun than some bitchy blorke or pineapple trying to ruin things for all the fans. 

What a delightful confession. Just so y’all know, I still think it’s bob and eliza. Their personalities match. So imagine y’all hating on bob and eliza, if it’s them, because they got freaking permission from JR. :/

[sometimesrosy]

hmm. yes. I think i see that. someone else made a comment, after I wrote that s6 and s7 are reversals of head and heart, with Bellamy the heart fighting the evil heart Russell in 6 and Clarke the head fighting the evil head Cadogan in 7, and someone wondered, does that mean it will follow the whole way and Bellamy will now have a great loss like Clarke did with Abby? And I thought... hmm, well WHO’S loss would affect him like that? And my first thought was Octavia? But then I thought no, because she would be more Madi, and Madi survived and was part of the battle, right? So I’m like who would be close enough family to parallel the Abby loss? And I think it would be Echo.

So like I”m still kind of thinking the #1 choice, of them both sacrificing themselves and living out their lives together in peace, but IF they survive survive and dont’ die to their friends, IF we see a parallel of s6 ending instead of s4 ending, then the someone else sacrificed might be Echo. Maybe she can’t manage to find her identity, she’s too damaged, too accustomed to following and being a servant so her last act is to sacrifice for Bellamy and her family, which she never had before. It would be a tragic  but heroic ending for Echo and I could see her doing that. She’s also a nightblood, and that’s probably significant. What if she takes Clarke’s place because the sacrifice has to be made by a nightblood??? it’s possible. Maybe the test has to be done by a nightblood. That would put Clarke, Echo, Russell, Gabriel, Madi, Emori and Murphy into play. Take Madi out, she’s too young they won’t let her. Sheidheda could try to take over the universe and fail the test. Hmm. It’s an interesting idea, no?

And i still want to get them back to earth and fix what they’ve done.

I have a spec. It is heavily influenced by @sometimesrosy and her great analysis and her back to earth theory, which i subscribe to.

So I can't stop thinking about how s5-7 are mirrors of s1-3. Every mirror season deals with the problem from the OG season, finally closing the page on it. Season 5 breaks the cycle of blood must have blood with Bellamy's speech to Madi. Season 6 finally told us that the ends don't justify the means which was the big theme in s2. And now season 7 is a mirror of S3 and the COL storyline.

Now the only season left is S4. How did that season end? With Clarke sacrificing herself and being stranded for 6 years on a half-dead planet practically alone. What would the fix for that be then? I have two theories

1. Clarke doesn't end up alone this time, pining for the man she loves. This time her and Bellamy sacrifice themselves for the others and live out the rest of their lives alone on one of the planets (while the others are back on Earth).

2. Instead of being isolated from everyone she loves like S4 finale, Clarke survives alongside Bellamy. Someone else sacrifices themselves for them and they live out the rest of their lives with their family (on Earth maybe?).

[faithhopedreamslove]

The 100 7x12 thoughts

I’m constantly amazed at how much The 100 manages to pack into one episode, which is why I have to rewatch each one at least once before I can gather my thoughts. It gives me hope, because even though we only have 4 episodes left, SO much can happen between now and then. 

Although not surprising, I hated seeing Sachin’s and the Children of Gabriel’s deaths. That essentially means the end of all Sanctumites. Despite Monty’s edict to do better, it seems Bellamy, Clarke, and crew have indirectly brought about the destruction of another society, albeit a dysfunctional one.

I can’t tell if Gabriel’s comment to Bellamy that he looks good in white was meant to be snarky, flirting, or hiding a deeper meaning. But it was unexpected, to say the least!

So Bellamy is testing Cadogan’s attachment to Anders. Does that mean he’s not fully brainwashed? Plus, he’s also bargaining for his friends’ lives. The old Bellamy is still in there somewhere.

The scene between Jordan and Hope was incredibly moving and sweet. These two really are the “odd ones out,” and it was nice to see that the writers acknowledged that and used that to forge a tentative bond between them. They are technically the next generation of the human race, along with Madi and the other kids.

The roommate pairings are so significant. In one room, Bellamy’s new family. In the other, his old family. I know Bellamy has known Raven from the beginning, but they truly became family on the Ring. The fact that Bellamy sent her off to M-Cap so easily was chilling. And I wish they had shown Raven in M-Cap - I hate how insignificant her character has become this season.

The scene between Bellamy and Echo was understated but powerful. Huge hats off to Tasya Teles for that scene - she acted brilliantly. Both of their voices were low, deep with emotion. This was a defining moment for Echo - until now, she has blindly followed her leaders. Queen Nia, Roan, and now Bellamy. And unknowingly, she has been working against the very people her leader and love, Bellamy, fully supports. So she is at a crossroads here. Her last question to him, “Is this thing you believe really that important? Is it more important than us?” is huge. And the “us” can be interpreted two ways - “us” as the entire group, or “us” as in Bellamy and Echo and their relationship. I think that’s why there’s such confusion as to whether they broke up when Bellamy answered “yes.” And the way Echo reacts is telling - she is struggling with herself. Should she follow her leader, Bellamy, as she’s always done, and support the Shepherd? Or does she finally break away and follow her own beliefs?

And in stark contrast, we have the Bellamy and Clarke scene. Where Bellamy and Echo were quiet, Bellamy and Clarke are passionate, fighting to get through to one another. Bellamy shared his life-altering experience in Etherea with them, which he didn’t with Echo. And when Clarke starts breaking apart, telling Bellamy she doesn’t even recognize him, he starts breaking too. He reminds her that he is the person who brought her back from the dead, who fought for her. Of all the things he could have reminded her of, I think it’s telling that this is what he chooses to try to reach her with. And my heart broke when Bellamy asked her to believe in him. He didn’t ask Echo to do the same - he basically told her what he believes, and that was that. He asked Clarke to believe in him because he NEEDS her to. When they are at odds with each other, neither one of them is whole. It’s only when they both believe in the same thing that they are complete, and Bellamy knows this, consciously or subconsciously.

It’s interesting, because I think this scene was meant to show us how Bellamy is NOT fully brainwashed. Yes, he believes in the final war and transcendence, but his first priority is still to save his friends, to save Clarke. The way he said “I am trying to save YOU,” to Clarke was so raw and full of emotion. This is the woman he just pulled from the brink of death mere months ago. He has had to grieve her death not once, but TWICE. He CANNOT go through that again. Bellamy is trying to work with his head and his heart. His heart wants to believe in Cadogan fully, but his head is coming up with a plan to save his friends, because his heart still loves Clarke and his friends - Cadogan doesn’t fully own it yet.

I know Clarke calling Bellamy her best friend has riled some people, but he IS her best friend. The foundation of the strongest love is friendship. And what else would she call him? She can’t say “the man I love is standing in front of me,” because she still believes he’s with Echo.

I am so, so happy to see Octavia and Clarke reconnecting with each other. These two have been together since the drop ship, and their relationship has gone through so many ups and downs. For Octavia to say that she finally understands Clarke is huge, because these two women have not always seen eye to eye on things. 

Octavia has also been observer #1 of Bellamy and Clarke’s relationship. She has seen them love each other, fight with each other, fight FOR each other. It’s telling that she lets Clarke get in Bellamy’s face while she hangs back. Partly because O knows that she hasn’t yet fully mended her relationship with Bellamy the way Clarke has. But also because she knows that the only one who can get through to Bellamy is Clarke, and vice versa. I also love how she comforted Clarke when Bellamy refused to listen to them, and tried to fight when Bellamy sent her off to M-Cap. 

Doucette had grown on me in Etherea, but now he just seems creepy.

Bellamy can’t even stand to watch Clarke being tortured in M-Cap. Every time he looks at her, he has to look away. And when he can’t take it anymore, he tries to convince Cadogan that Clarke doesn’t know where the Flame is. So much for not lying to the Shepherd. He’ll absolutely do just that where Clarke is concerned. And Bellamy’s wince when Clarke finally agrees to help Cadogan after he threatens to send one of her friends to Penance - Bellamy knows Clarke, and he knows she will always sacrifice herself to save her friends. This is a HUGE parallel to CoL-Abby, who said to torture her friends to get Clarke to break. Abby was fully brainwashed, and knew that the quickest way to get to Clarke is to threaten her friends. Bellamy also knows this, but he did not offer that knowledge up to Cadogan. Again, I think we’re seeing signs that Bellamy is not fully brainwashed. And the way he looked at Cadogan when he said “she knows, or she wouldn’t be fighting,” had a hint of disgust - Bellamy does not want to follow a Shepherd who tortures people to get what he wants. The cracks are starting to deepen in Bellamy’s brainwashing here.

My two cents on “It didn’t have to be this way.” “Yes it did.” - I think Bellamy was honestly trying to save his friends with the least amount of damage caused. In his mind, Clarke tells them where the Flame is, they give it to Cadogan, his friends are safe, and they all transcend. Clarke’s response is more cryptic. I interpreted her “Yes, it did,” to mean that she wanted Bellamy to witness her torture so that he can realize that Cadogan is a monster. She knows this is the only way to get through to him. Clarke is trying to save Bellamy, just as much as he is trying to save her. This is a direct parallel to season 6. Bellamy fought to save Clarke from Josephine, who was controlling her mind. Clarke is fighting to save Bellamy from Cadogan, who is controlling his mind.

I’m so over Shidheida. He can take his OTT outfit, OTT throne, and get the hell out of here.

I LOVE Murphy and Emori this episode. My love for them has steadily been growing, and I especially love how protective they are of Madi. I’m wondering if this is setting them up to become Madi’s parents when Clarke and Bellamy go off to take the final test and perhaps have their Marperly ever after ending. I would be sad for Madi to lose Clarke, but I’m glad of the relationship she’s developing with Murphy and Emori. Plus, if this theory is correct, that means that Murphy would actually live!

Miller is so freaking underutilized this season, and it breaks my heart. He’s one of the original 100. His scene with Bellamy was cut this episode, and I was really looking forward to it. Bellamy trusted Miller before he trusted most others, and they go way back. With so few episodes left, it was a huge missed opportunity to acknowledge their bond. It’s telling that he looked to Clarke for confirmation as to whether she’s good with what’s happening. Clearly, he has lost faith in Bellamy for now.

From a narrative standpoint, Echo and Bellamy are now separated until we don’t know what episode. Whether Bellarke becomes canon or not, clearly the writers did not feel it was important to keep Becho together this close to the end of the story, yet they kept Bellarke together and on the same planet. Where this leads, we shall see.

Murphy’s little smirk when he sees Clarke is everything. That was a total cockroach moment. It’s also indicative of how much respect and affection Murphy has for Clarke. He missed her, and he knows she’ll find a way to fix the mess they’re in, like she always does. Clarke’s reaction “What the hell happened here?” was writing gold. I don’t care if they moved the stone into the castle just for this scene - it was a great way to end the episode!

Wow, this got way longer than I expected. If you read it all the way through, thank you! Please share your thoughts! 

[sometimesrosy]

Regarding the narrative of the show. I agree that with what we have been shown bellarke makes the most sense. The part where I am hesitating, it's if they will still be alive and together at the end. I don't think they will make them declare their love and have one of them killed right after because it would be to reminiscing of the clexa debacle. But that doesn't mean they will not kill them off. I was wondering what were your thoughts on that.

The show has Bellarke as the central relationship and it is now romantic. I believe we’ll get an expression of that romance that will leave us with some type of endgame Bellarke, but I don’t know if they’ll live happily ever after.

My main spec is that they will have a the 100 version of happily ever after, which I’ve been callling Marperly Ever After.  I feel like someone will have to make sacrifice, either Clarke or Bellamy, for the salvation of their people, and instead of letting them do it alone, the other comes with them, “together.” And this will have something to do with the anomaly but it will leave them either dead or separated from their people. 

I think the anomaly will actually send Bellarke off into some sort of time dilation or pocket universe idk where they get the chance to live their lives in peace, happily, have children and maybe even begin a new civilization and create a home. With chickens and such. 

I also believe that their people will somehow come upon evidence of Clarke and Bellamy’s happy life, if they’re sent to earth before they kill the anomaly and Raven is left to fly their people back to earth in cryo, so they get there 75 years later and see Bellarke children and get the update on their lives through Clarke’s minddrive?

Or if they’ll be sent back into ancient time to place the anomaly stones in the first place in which case they’ll discover the minddrive in an archaeological dig and plug it in and discover Clarke and Bellamy’s happily ever after in which case they created a civilization.

Or if they’ll get stuck on Sky Ring and live their life while everyone else spends like a day, and when they go to get them, they find their grown children instead....

some version of this. So they die, like marper, but have their happy ending because they live in peace, and ALSO manage to make life better for their people. Like marper. 

[sometimesrosy]

The more I read about the Adam/Eve theory, the more it makes sense to me. Bellarke having a final like marper would be a happy ending, considering that this is the 100, after all. So maybe that looks like Captain America's ending in avengers? Bellarke saving humanity and living and finding happiness together on another planet but the cost of that would be to leave family behind (in a safe place-maybe on Earth?), It looks like the end of Captain A. when he returns the stones right after (1/2)

(2/2): saving the world and then chooses to stay behind to live with the love of his life (leaving the Avengers in a safe world). Considering the whole "together" thing they can live or die together, I refuse to accept anything else. P.S: saw your Pride and Prejudice post and when you talk abou how we may find out “through a much later scene where Clarke and Bellamy are old what happened to them” that’s exactly what happened in avengers and how we found out the end of captain america.

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I had forgotten about the Captain America ending. But yeah, something like that. 

That’s what I call the Marperly Ever After theory. It’s a happy ending, but bittersweet because they leave their family, including Madi and Octavia, behind, but leave them with a better world.

They “die” to their friends and family, but they live on outside of the the responsibility. They don’t have to bear it anymore, and so they get to choose love and happiness and peace... what they never got to have as they fought for family and survival and redemption for everyone else.

It’s a way to reward them for all their work that they did... never expecting reward. 

I would make it a “cosmic adam and eve” if they did indeed send them back in time to place the anomaly stones and they end up being, like, the beginning of humanity or something like that. Or if their friends come back to earth, like 75 years later and find a thriving society there for them, waiting, because Clarke and Bellamy got sent by the anomaly to Earth and they created a new world for them to come home to, with a healed/healing earth and possibly some other survivors from praimfaya. 

[sometimesrosy]

Bellamy and clarke separated but finding some hapiness and peace, after they confess their feelings for each other. Would it be a bittersweat ending? They know they love each other, but they can't stay together. Would it feet the narrative being told? Like a season 4 ending, but they confess their feelings and can comunicate via radio

It might tell the narrative, but I believe it would be a tragic ending, no sweet, just bitter.

To have that epic, soulmate love, but to be separated from it forever?

Yes, it would be epic. Yes, it would fit some of the symbolism and metaphors (like sun and moon, never to meet,) but I don’t think it follows the characters to their personal character journeys.

It would be an ending that reinforced the need to sacrifice the self for the greater good. And it SEEMS like the story, since s5 at least, has been telling us that it’s not just about surviving, not just about saving people, not just about doing it for your people, but ALSO about believing you deserve happiness, you deserve a chance to live, everyone deserves to try for that good life, even when they are bearing the burden of taking care of their people. Actually, that’s been a theme, often unaddressed, since season 1. They were UNABLE to do that in their traumatized lives. So as we’ve seen them heal, we’ve seen them start to take steps towards living the life that is right for them... like Monty and Harper. 

From the beginning, “Together” has been really important for not only Bellarke, but also the entire show. But SPECIFICALLY for Bellarke, or reuniting them wouldn’t have been the central plot line in season 5. 

IF Bellarke gets to be together before the finale, but doesn’t either live “happily” ever after or DIE together, but rather is separated forever... I think that would be backtracking on the personal development of the characters and the concept that you can’t live your lives for other people. It would be reinforcing the toxic and incorrect concept that they “bear it so their people don’t have to.”

Now both Clarke AND Bellamy tend to be self sacrificial and willing to die to save their people, and that’s part of what makes them heroes, but this has turned out to be TERRIBLE for them. And separating would be them sacrificing THEIR happiness for their people. 

Happy for their people, tragedy for them. I suppose that could be the bittersweet. Like Pirates of the Caribbean where Elizabeth and Will are separated and can only meet once a day every year or some such. Or even Titanic, where Jack sacrifices himself so she can survive on that door, and she lives and he dies and they are reunited in death decades later. It’s a trope. It happens. 

Could it happen? Yes. Will it happen? I don’t think so.

Ok. Thinking back to past story.

Deleted script when Bellamy asked Clarke to run away with him from s1/day trip

Closing the drop ship door on B and F, then B telling her it was the right thing to do at the campfire.

We’re all safe here in MW. “not all of us.” no B or F 

“I can’t lose you too/It’s worth the risk” when B went into the mountain and I maintain is where their relationship broke. As B thought C didn’t care and C became desperate to save him.

“Together” pulling the lever at MW

B’s desperation to save Clarke in wanheda (can’t lose her!)

“Together” again when they drank floukru’s poison. Live or die together. Almost an oath.

Start with Bellamy Blake

“If I’m on that list, you’re on that list.”

Jaha questioning B about who else he needs to save in order to feel worthy, and the way he looked at Clarke.

C giving up half of Arkadia’s spots to save B.

C not being able to sacrifice B for the sake of humanity.

B being traumatized by leaving C to die in praimfaya (trauma which lasts 6 years. Reinforced in s 5 and 6 with how he CAN’T do that again. Can’t leave Raven behind, can’t sacrifice E for O, can’t let O kill C, can’t leave Murphy, Emori and Monty to die, WON’T let Clarke die in Sanctum.)

NOW, Clarke has been willing to let go of her claim on Bellamy because she believes he loves E, and also she would never go against his will and his choices for his life. Bellamy wouldn’t let Clarke sacrifice herself although he did in perverse instantiation, he was “still with her” by fighting to keep her safe (maybe that was the hand hold metaphor there. they were in it together.) They’re BOTH willing to sacrifice themselves for the safety of their people but they are NOT willing to sacrifice the other. They have in the past, (MW and Praimfaya) and it was not worth it.

I think it might seem like one of them will sacrifice themselves to save everyone... and I’m betting Bellamy, who will probably be “the key”... but I think that at the last moment, Clarke will NOT let him go alone, even though they only need one person. If you’re on that list, I’m on that list. 

What if that scene at the tree in Day Trip was meant to be distant foreshadowing for them “running away together” at the end of the story, but it turned out to be too romantic for that early in the narrative so they deleted it? Hmm. 

Anyway. That’s my ending for Bellarke. They die together, because one won’t let the other sacrifice themselves without them. (and then I think they get a happy ending isolated and separated from their friends, a soft epilogue outside of the story, like Marper.)

But could they become romantic and then get separated? Yes. It fits the larger narrative. And I think it will seem like that’s going to happen before we get an “I jump you jump” moment (another titanic reference. the tropes fit.) Because letting one sacrifice themselves no longer fits the Bellarke narrative. They’ve gotten to the point where they can’t do that anymore. BTDT, and not again.

[sometimesrosy]

Do you think Bellamy and Clarke will end up on a planet separated by everyone at the end?

I do. That’s my marperly ever after theory. 

I don’t know if it’s happening, but I haven’t seen anything opposing it in canon yet and I’ve seen quite a few hints in canon that it might be happening.

Or they could be separated by time rather than location. IDK. But same essential theory.

[sometimesrosy]

“with chickens and such.” omg nothing would make me happier than bellarke living the rest of their lives in peace as chicken farmers

it’s a theme.

they keep mentioning cottages and chickens and a lake.

it is not inconceivable.

[life-astudyofhypotheticals]

Yeah this is where I’m at right now. In the case of your fics, I’m still going to be consuming Bellarke content. It’s on brand for me since I still love Zutara and I only needed 10 pages of content in the whole HP series to fall in love with Jily.

But there was something so magical about Bellarke’s dynamics and story for me that I still cannot find in any other “similar” pairing (be it in terms of friendship or romantic love) in other fandoms. This is the ship that took Percabeth off the top spot after years of it being my OTP.

I’m sad. I’m really disappointed. I was so sure that the writing in 7A was setting us up for this great final arc in 7B. I was sure that we would be getting a marperly ever after (to steal @sometimesrosy terminology). Because to me, this show has always been about the relationships you forge in fire, thriving in peace. It was love is strength. It was “*You’re* my family. I’ll never lose sight of it again”.

For a show that was supposed to be about doing better, I can’t help but see this plotpoint as a regression from the characters’ behavior in prior seasons.

I think I’ll still follow along but I don’t think I have it in me to watch it live. This could have been a story to remember and cherish. I’m not very optimistic about it but maybe it still can.

However, Bellamy Blake is quite literally the heart of the show and if he were to die, he should have gotten a hero’s death and there should have been time to wrap up his arc.

Bellamy feels unfinished. If that’s supposed to depict the reality of death, sure, fine. But Clarke had promised to remember that he’s family. They had promised to do better. They always succeed when they’re together.

When Bellamy and Clarke are separated, shit quite literally hits the fan, without fail. If one of them is dead, I’m sure that the other person can still be alive but they won’t be living. And the repercussions of Bellamy’s death on Clarke should be devastating...with only 3 episodes left, I can’t really see a happy ending in the cards for her anymore either.

I guess the show could end on a tragic note. That has always been a possibility. But this year, I think I’ve seen enough tragedy in real life to last me a lifetime. The world I want to escape to needn’t be another miserable one.

So. I have.... many thoughts. None of them good.

[sometimesrosy]

Hey, I was reading some of your comments about what Bellamy and Clarke's ending would be. I also don't want either of them to die, but if it does do you really think they would do something like Marpher? I have a feeling that JR would not repeat an ending like that, it was very important since it was the closing of a "cycle". Oh, and thank you for being so sensible in your responses, after reading so much ridiculous stuff on twitter, your tumblr was like breathing fresh air again!!

Yes. I think they will have a marper ending. I think that the finale of season 5 paralleled Marper and Bellarke before they went to sleep, and then Marper woke Bellarke up and told them not ONLY to do better/be better but ALSO to live a good and happy life like they themselves did.

I do think they might redo that ending, because this is a circular kind of story which replays all sorts of past stories to make it come out right. For instance. I could see a season 4 like ending where one of them is closing the door on the other but that one refuses to go without them, so closes it, but stays on the dangerous side. Which COULD end up with them dying together, like Bellamy almost wanted (I left her behind and we all die anyway,) or it could be another salvation where they don’t die, but instead get to live in a kind of Eden. Or heaven.

When asked if anyone would have a happy ending in season 5, JR said one ship would have a happy ending, The 100 style. That was Marper.

And I must be honest, with Bellamy and Clarke’s tendency to sacrifice themselves for their people and give up their own needs for them, but paired with their constant yearning and Clarke’s sacrifice living alone without them, pining for Bellamy all the time, and Bellamy realizing that he can’t live without her and he needs her... they CAN’T kill one of them off, or separate them without it being a tragedy for them. There’s a possibility of them making bellarke a tragedy but I think it’s a relatively low possibility.

But I don’t know how it would be possible for them to have a happy ending if they stay with their people... because they’re ALWAYS going to be struggling to keep them all together and be better. I don’t believe this show can have a utopic ending because it doesn’t really believe in utopia. 

The closest we got to utopia was Marper’s life on the ship or maybe Luna’s rig, before humanity destroyed them. 

So in order to have a happy ending, I think they have to be separated from their people and give up fighting, because there’s no one left to fight. 

Another thought I’ve had. We’ve seen hell. We’ve seen purgatory. We’ve even seen a kind of bastardized heaven with Sanctum which was only heaven for those primes. To get a REAL heaven, I think Bellarke could survive after death (the afterlife) and find themselves in a peaceful place. I tend to think it will be earth, but it could also be sky ring. Allowing them to live their lives together while everyone else continues on. 

All in all, I think the chances of Bellarke dying are high, but the chance of them SURVIVING their death is also pretty high. To live a heavenly life of peace and happiness.

[sometimesrosy]

What does your instinct say as to how the Bellarke story will end? Whats your prediction? Me hoping for endgame ♥️

I am almost positive that Bellarke is a romantic endgame, because the story places them at the center of the narrative and their relationship has gotten more and more romantic as the seasons continued.

I am not so positive that Bellarke will get a happy ending and live together the way we’d like. They might die together. Which would be a bittersweet ending, as they’d be TOGETHER, but their journey would be over. 

I don’t think one would die leaving the other behind, although JR MIGHT go for that tragic ending. But it would leave one of them just surviving, rather than living, so it’s pretty grim. But if it DOES happen, they will be romantic canon before that happens and probably have a baby, which means it would have to be Clarke surviving, even though I think that story HAPPENED already, with s4. Although it’s possible that Bellamy could survive and in his grief be alone, although Echo MIGHT be there to pick up the pieces. That would be terribly tragic, but at least he wouldn’t be alone. I dont’ think it a likely ending though. 

Back to that Clarke surviving, with a baby. Okay, like i said, that happened in s4 (with madi as the child) and she nearly broke, but did manage to make it through. In order for this ending to happen, though, I think it would have to be TRANSFORMED so that we can see the development of the characters. It can’t just be a replay. They have to do it RIGHT this time. We’ve already seen Bellamy saying he can’t do that again, and he’s managed to fix the story there. 

But what if it’s reversed this time. And BELLAMY is about to be the one who stays behind to save everyone, thus sacrificing himself, and at the last minute, instead of closing the door and leaving him behind like Bellamy did in s4, she closes the door with HERSELF on the outside too, and joins Bellamy in whatever noble self sacrifice he’d intended in order to save his people and all humanity. 

“Together,” she says. Of course. 

No more, “I left her behind and we all die anyway.” He regretted it immediately, that leaving her behind. He would have preferred to die with her. 

Only she didn’t die, did she? 

So the tragedy there is that Clarke was ALONE, and Bellamy thought she was dead. So the way to replay that narrative, with the twist of the development the characters have been through to FIX the situation, is for Clarke to stay behind with Bellamy and do whatever it was together. 

ONLY

Plot twist: Bellamy and Clarke don’t die. It’s the anomaly, so instead of killing them, it sends them somewhere, or they get left in disconnected stream of time, idk. In my mind, the place they need to go back to is the earth. That’s the dream, right? From the opening scene of The 100. 

The rest of their friends and family think they are dead and sacrificed. Maybe they close the anomaly, I don’t know, no one else can follow it. Or not. Who knows. BUT whoever is left behind, Raven, Murphy, Madi, etc. They can’t stay where they are. Maybe Jordan, as his father’s son, believes he has the ability to fix the earth. Probably with algae, let’s be honest. So maybe instead of fleeing sanctum and the five colonies, our heroes get on the Eligius ship, go into cryo and go back to Earth as a MISSION to heal what has been broken. 

Maybe Octavia decides to go, as she’s finally taken on Lincoln’s concept that we are responsible for our monster when we let it out. And that means humanity has to fix what they destroyed. The earth. Raven takes off from Sanctum, and for once, she’s taking off of a planet that’s not on fire. 

They go back to earth where Green is going to attempt to make it green again (Make Algae Not War.) And land on the one spot that’s green, Eden of course, and find a thriving peaceful civilization.

75 years in the future (since they were in cryo) Bellarke never died. They were sent back to earth by the anomaly, to the destroyed earth. And they were left to live their lives in peace and happiness, to create that society and life that Miller, Bryan, Monty and Kane dreamed. And they either meet the ancient Clarke and Bellamy, or see a video of their lives where they are talking to their friends finally coming back to earth, and we see them get older, have kids, have survivors from the dead earth show up so they can make a new world, a new earth.

A beginning for humanity, without war.

That’s my spec. I’ve been working on it since the s5/6 hiatus. I used to think time travel, but the anomaly is more like space travel with time hijinks. I used to think they’d go back to earth at the end of s6, but s6 and s7 seem to be one continuous story. But there are some elements that need to come together. Bellarke need to be together. They need to go back to earth to fix what they did to it. Octavia needs to be fully redeemed as the symbol of humanity, in order for humanity to be restored. Bellamy needs to have his “mythic name” like Wanheda, and I suspect it might be something along the lines of “key.” Bellarke need to mirror Marper’s ending, the bittersweet happy ever after. Their PEOPLE need to win the battle, even if Bellarke is sacrificed to get it (that’s the bittersweet. They have victory but lose the people they love.) Jordan can fix the failures of Monty and Jasper, he can recover from his trauma from sanctum, like Jasper couldn’t, and his algae can save the world like Monty’s couldn’t. And Raven gets to take off of a planet without it being on fire.

This is a theory I’ve shared before, although this one comes from a different direction. Check the tags to see what else I’ve said. It’s changed and grown over time. I JUST figured out that Green will probably be a verb for Jordan which means like in s5, Monty’s algae WILL be the answer. And he said he could use it to make the land grow again, just like he did the cryo farm. 

The earth HAS to come back, otherwise they’ve failed as heroes saving humanity. Becuase humanity has to be responsible for the damage they did. They can’t just leave it behind and find new planets, that’s colonialism and turns humanity into a cancer, that spreads from planet to planet using up resources. (didn’t jasper say that human’s were the disease? also in one of JR’s references, the anomaly was the cancer, and they had to stop it. so it wouldn’t be so weird if humanity was the cancer in this one. or parts of humanity.)

So this theory would actually have Clarke and Bellamy dying in the end. Or near the end. Fandom will be DISTRAUGHT.

But what i’m saying is they won’t be dead, they will be transported. DEATH IS NOT THE END, yo. And long after our heroes think they are dead and try to continue on without them, BOOM. Here they are, living marperly ever after in the after life, paradise, peace on earth and chickens in the yard. Honored by their society as the people who saved humanity.

It’s a bold speculation,  but I’m seeing a lot of clues. Of course I won’t get everything right, but over the past year this theory has developed along with the new revelations. The anomaly and the other colonies are still the biggest wildcard. Also cadogan and sheidheda. I don’t know their stories. Or how they work. I suspect there’s an anomaly on earth. There’d have to be if cadogan is there since we know he was on earth with Becca when she died. 

Oh. Maybe Becca and Cadogan figured out the tech to do the anomaly, and Becca tried to stop it, because the last time her tech went rogue and killed everyone, so this time she’s wary, and she sees the potential for evil with the anomaly. So she tries to pull the plug. Which Cadogan (probably the ‘him’ who let ALIE out) does not like, because he’s a doomsday cultist. This would explain Becca’s dying words, “You dont’ understand Cadogan, I’m trying to save us all.” Or such. So he kills becca, enacts the anomaly, flees to another planet with hsi followers, but maybe someone stops the anomaly from being used again on earth or whatever. Or maybe everyone from shallow valley was actually FROM the anomaly, and they forgot it all after the anomaly faded. Oh these are all new theories. sorry. and not bellarke. 

[sometimesrosy]

since everyone talks about worst case scnerio all the time..what do you think is the ultimate best case scenario that seems possible? Mine seems barely possible but it's basically Bellamy falls into another dimension. Somehow discovers AU Clarke. They make Madi in the other dimension😂 SOmehow they find a way to send him back to the others, but they also decide to send Madi to earth via the anomaly. Blarke baby!😅

I’ve already said my spec.

Bellarke canon romance by midseason or mid s7b latest. In love, confessions, everything. But to save humanity, someone, probably Bellamy has to stay behind while everyone else escapes. Last minute, she refuses, closes the lever with her on the outside, she shares Bellamy’s fate, and our heroes escape while Bellamy and Clarke sacrifice themselves, Together.

Meanwhile, Raven and Octavia and Murphy gather up the last of their people, get back into the eligius ship go into cryo to head home to earth, 75 years away with plans to bring the earth back to life with Monty’s algae like he did the hydrofarm.

They get to earth, find a valley, maybe THE valley, and there’s a thriving civilization there. It turns out the anomaly did NOT kill Clarke and Bellamy, but sent them to Earth, where they settled down, raised a family and built a society so that when the last of the 100 got back to earth, they would have a place to live.

Maybe we get clarke and bellamy really old, or maybe it’s video like Marper left. 

Clarke and Bellamy “die” to save their friends, but they don’t die. They get to live their lives together, in peace, in love, creating a new family. No more war. 

Death is not the end. Breaking the cycle. Together. More than just survival. etc.

[sometimesrosy]

I think with the way things are going - more delinquents stepping up to take leadership roles, Clarke sharing her hard-earned wisdom - that the show may be setting up for Clarke (and Bellamy) to NOT be leaders anymore. Like preparing their friends to continue on without them, but still carrying on their mission/legacy.

Yes. I see that too.

Are you not familiar with my Marperly Ever After theory, in which Clarke and Bellamy sacrifice themselves so that their people can have a better life, and Raven and Octavia and Murphy (hopefully) will carry on and lead their people without them.

And then Bellarke will show up after it’s all over and we find out they had a happy life together like Marper did on the ship.

So yes. I agree. That could be seen as a narrative/character arc for this season. 

[sometimesrosy]

So the time dilation/differences between planets has served the plot on some ways already (aging up Hope, allowing Octavia and Diyoza and co. to have character growth and development while little time has passed for everyone else). I'm curious as to whether you think it'll play a role in terms of the story's ending or the possibilty of returning to earth. Just curious if you have any thoughts or theories :)

Yeah I do.

My marperly ever after theory can work with the time dilation OR with cryo sleep and space travel the old fashioned way.

I still think that Clarke and Bellamy will sacrifice themselves for their people and end up separated from them, not dead, but living their lives happily in peace. And we’ll find out about their happy lives through dilation or cryo travel. Oh i also had a time travel theory where we got the same result. 

I’ve head this concept of a Bellarke happy ending since, like, season 4 I think. Maybe five I can’t remember. I imagined them leaving it all behind to live in peace. I remember first thinking they’d be off in the woods living in a cabin, maybe completely forgotten as their people create a happy world. 

I just couldn’t conceive of any other way they could HAVE a happy ending, except through opting out, because as long as they were in charge of their people, they were going to keep sacrificing themselves to save them. 

It seemed an unlikely possibility that they’d do that. until they did it with Marper. They did it on the ship instead of in the woods, but same result. 

And now we have a couple of different set ups where it would work and it would be a parallel to Marper, who were paralleled with Bellarke in s5, and told Bellarke to live a happy life like they had. Set up.

Oh there’s also the little bit where they find Becca’s infinity symbol on Sanctum, and Clarke says “hmm destroy the world and still be worshipped,” or something and Bellamy elbows her and says “see there’s still hope for us?” Foreshadowing for this marperly ending where they are honored as heroes.

I am crossing my fingers for this ending. 

[sometimesrosy]

"he symbols matching lincoln’s horn, bellamy’s self sacrificial nature, and gabriel’s statement that some “alien race" wait how does bellamy' sacrificial nature connects to this? :/

oh that’s my brain making story connections.

See. Someone set the stones thousands of years ago. Octonion is a hint for Octavia, and they made a point of making the connection in canon, so it’s not unimportant. The symbols seem like the horn symbols, which means they are connected, you’d assume the stone came first but that is not sure in a universe with a wormhole technology. That’s all a suggestion that one of our HEROES goes back in time. Maybe it’s octavia. Sure. But would Bellamy let his sister go? No. He’d say that the MESSAGE is for her, not from her. And then he’d volunteer to be the one going back in time to set the stones. Jumping over the cliff to save his people again. It’s probably a one way trip. That’s him going into the mountain again. Character + plot = story. 

i am REALLY stuck on the idea of clarke and bellamy making this sacrificial jump to save humanity, because it’s who they are, who they have always been, but I think at the last minute, Clarke will refuse to let him go alone and go with him. She won’t repeat sending him into MW, or him taking off from praimfaya without her. She’ll say “together” and they will jump off the cliff together. Disappearing into history as endgame. 

and then we’ll think they died, but they didn’t, they lived a happy peaceful life together, like marper, and we’ll probably see it from Clarke’s eyes with the help of her minddrive, since that’s already a story element. A chekhov’s gun if you will. 

listen. i haven’t seen anything yet making my theory here more unlikely. it’s just getting more possible. but if something does happen to change it, I will adjust.

[sometimesrosy]

i think if he doesnt die alone (ohh god that sounds terrible xD) like if hes not the only one that dies i would feel better a little bit. again that sounds horrible. idk but like a finn or lincoln death where we have to watch the others get a happy ending without him....i think that would affect me more.

I agree with you though. I feel either clarke or bellamy dying alone without the other would be a tragedy for the show and for their characters, but dying together would, in a strange way, be kind of a resolution to the story.

I still don’t want it, but it would be better than one leaving the other behind. We’ve already SEEN that and it was traumatic for them.