#mando s2 finale clears all of s3

[barissoffee]

Gotta be honest this season of Mando has all but confirmed for me that "adventure of the week" styled story-telling needs to die

true. if the 'adventure of the week' ties into the overall main plotline of the season, if done well, it can still work. But obviously mando s3 didn't handle it properly and each episode didn't feel connected at all leading up to the finale with moff gideon. Maybe they should have introduced him earlier in the season idk

[nikibogwater]

I honestly think that LucasFilm wanted to make the Mando and Grogu movie due to realizing how much they kinda screwed up the setup for the characters after the S2 finale, especially having the two reunite in a show not many people checked out or really knew about, not even doing a "previously on" or really quick recap for the beginning of S3 for people who weren't caught up in the loop, cause i thought that was pretty weird.

And then the entirety of S3 happened. After that, it seemed like they put a nail in the coffin that they couldn't pry out, but are now trying to pull it out with a another nail that's as dull as the previous one.

Yeah, I'm fairly certain this movie was only greenlit out of financial desperation. Truth be told, I'm actually quite fascinated by the levels of incompetence and tone-deafness on display over at Lucasfilm. It's not like they don't have anyone there who knows what they're doing--it's just that the people capable of making good stories have all their creative control ripped away from them as soon as the executives realize their ideas might actually get people's money. And naturally, as soon as the storytelling is taken away from actual storytellers, the movies and shows become trash. But what is most amazing to me is the fact that Lucasfilm execs just....don't learn anything from it. People didn't like how we treated Luke Skywalker in the sequel trilogy? Great! Let's do the exact same thing to Indiana Jones! Oh fiddlesticks, looks like we just lost a few hundred million dollars on that, huh? That's okay, we still have Bo Katan to replace Din as the main character in The Mandalorian. What's that? Season 3 lost 60% of its audience within the first week? Well that just doesn't make any sense. I know! Let's try making a movie all about Rey! Y'know! The single most divisive and disliked character in the entire franchise! Somehow the saga of unwise decisions just keeps going on and on, even though it really should have ended with The Last Jedi. But they must be aware that they're not making enough money to sustain the company like this, because otherwise why return to Din and Grogu after making it abundantly clear that they don't really care about these characters anymore? The only question is whether or not the corporate side will take a step back to let Favreau and Filoni do their thing. I think that's the only way a Mando & Grogu movie would even have a chance of succeeding, after all the shenanigans the studio's pulled. But that seems pretty unlikely at this point.

Oh well. On the bright side, my spite for the current overall state of the media industry has been excellent fuel for my own creative endeavors. I never write more than when I'm angry, haha. Thanks so much for the message, Non! ✨

[skyz8]

that's a nice theory, op! i want to believe in it too but it was announced before the show aired that ahsoka happens concurrently with mando season three so ahsoka HAS met luke before encountering baylan skoll. it's only that luke is far beneath her list of concern that she never thought of him 😔although the ahsoka show does recontextualize her refusal to train grogu and the motive behind her preventing mando to meet up with grogu in ossus. she convinced r2 to go to her instead of telling luke that mando came to visit. luke was never told and had to find out that mando visited when mando's ship was leaving. i'm sure her intentions were from a place of good but in the end she prevented mando to meet his foundling (something she would have known is important in mando culture because she spent time with bo-katan and sabine) and yet she didn't trust luke to handle it himself. she even mentioned how luke is like his father right after he confronted her about mando's visit. this is all very interesting because with the recent ahsoka episode, her actions in tbobf is recontextualized as something that's likely motivated by her trauma and issues that stem from her unresolved past. and luke was too polite to have his choice to confront mando and decide what to do with grogu alongside his student's parental figure basically robbed from him 😭

Hey anon, thanks for stopping by ♡

As far as I know there's no official confirmation from Dave Filoni or the official Star Wars website about the actual timeline of the Ahsoka series, there are some new articles still speculating about the timeline. But I think during SW celebration Natasha Liu Bordizzo was the only one who said that the show's events are happening along the same timeline as Mando S3. So, you could be right.

But what still makes me suspicious of the timeline is that a few days after the two-episode premiere, the official Star Wars website omitted TBOBF ep 6 from the list of essential episodes to watch before the Ahsoka show. Which is...weird.

The last recommendation in the list is her appearance in The Mandalorian s2. So why is that I wonder?

We start the Ahsoka show with Morgan Elsbeth being rescued by Baylan and Shin as she was being transported to Coruscant for her trial, the last time we saw Morgan is when she was defeated and captured by Ahsoka in Mando s2. I don't think it'll take the new republic 2+ years to transfer a prisoner to Coruscant for their trial, so it's safe to assume that this happens after a few months max from her capture by Ahsoka. So at this point I don't think we reached TBOBF timeline yet...

As for Ahsoka preventing Din from seeing Grogu in that episode, I didn't like it, and at the time I didn't get the concept of no-attachments with Jedi (I became a Star Wars fan after the Mandalorian S2 finale & haven't watched the animated shows yet at the time) but then I read some other fans' analysis of that scene and I understood why Ahsoka was adamant about it. The thing is Grogu has a BIG attachment issue to the point of not being able to concentrate on his training, as Luke said, his heart wasn't in it. That kind of attachment and conflict within his heart along with being very strong with the Force can be dangerous for him because he'd be susceptible to the dark side. I think @gffa explained Ahsoka's reasoning well here.

I know there are different views in the fandom about the Jedi Code of no attachments, canon vs legends...etc, and I personally think that this rule is not being examined or conveyed in a clear way or in a good way? in live action tv shows, but it seems Dave Filoni is continuing George Lucas's views about attachments with Jedi, that this rule is not wrong. So I think Ahsoka wasn't preventing Din from seeing Grogu out of her own trauma, her reasoning was solid.

Having said that, as much as I enjoyed Ahsoka being with Luke in TBOBF (it was beautiful ngl), I personally don't think she should've been there in the first place.

For two reasons:

A) As you said, it robbed Luke of an important moment in the story that would have added so much to his character and also Din's. Luke should've been the one to talk to Din about Grogu and have some interesting meaningful discussion with him about what it means to be a Jedi and what it means to be a Mandalorian (seriously how tf could filoni and favreau pass on this marvelous opportunity??!! PFFFT), and if they want to save the reunion with Grogu for later they could've let him nap deeply while Luke and Din have a chat.

B) How could they throw Ahsoka and Luke casually talking with each other at the audience WITHOUT SHOWING THEIR FIRST MEETING TOGETHER?!! It's a big thing! Like, it still boggles my mind! So I think Ahsoka meeting Luke for the first time should've been in her own show.

But anyways, back to our topic, there's a moment in TBOBF where Ahsoka tells Luke to trust his instincts, and if you remember one of the Ahsoka teasers a while ago had Anakin's voice talking to Ahsoka (A flashback? An old hologram?) telling her to trust her instincts (perhaps it's coming up in one of the remaining episods?)...So maybe that's where it stuck with her and then she told Luke the same thing later, you know 😭😭😭

Sorry for the long rambling answer anon.

[phantom-of-the-501st]

Book of Boba Fett Spoilers

I feel like I'm making a lot of these recently...

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The more I think about this show and it's finale, the more problems I find with it. Anyone else?

Anyway, here's how I think they can start to fix some things in The Mandalorian S3.

Biggest problem regarding Mando? The reunion of Mando and Grogu happening so soon kind of erases all of Mando S2. They spent the whole season getting Grogu to Luke only for him to leave like 5 minutes later.

Solution? (BTW, these are just quick thoughts and probably not a clear solution).

Have Din take Grogu back to Luke.

Find a way to work past the attachment thing and have Din stick around while Luke trains Grogu (emotional support from Dad).

Have Luke help Din learn to wield the Dark Saber.

Grogu becomes a Mandalorian Jedi and the entirety of Mando S2 does not become completely pointless. :)

[communistkenobi-archive]

Not to be pessimistic but I don't expect the baby and Din to be reunited by the finale. That's what happened last season. It would be a bit predictable if Din defeats Gideon and he gets the kid back. OTOH, I don't expect the baby to survive that long while in custody if all they want with him is his blood since that almost killed him last time. Unless Gideon has come up with other ways to utilize the child's abilities and will keep him around longer.

yeah I’m kinda half-half on it. like in order to have a mission statement that will launch season 3, another Jedi has to show up that will train the kid, or the kid doesn’t get saved and s3 becomes the “getting the baby back” season, or some other twists pulls the plot in another direction.

like obviously s2 isn’t done so we don’t know everything and this is speculation that will be all cleared up in the next two weeks, but I was wondering last night like, how mando as a show is going to continue. so far we’ve gotten a lot of self-contained side quests that delay/lengthen the progression of the main quest (delivering the kid to a jedi), but that main plot is going to be resolved at some point. so after din decides he’s not gonna give the kid up (which I’m assuming is likely going to happen - in any case, the kid is absolutely not leaving din permanently), what’s the new adventure going to be?

I don’t think this would ever happen just based on the pacing of the show, but I would like some down time in s3 - maybe din gets hurt really badly in the confrontation with gideon and needs to recover, so he bonds with the kid and works through all the emotional/traumatic stuff that’s happened the last two seasons. I feel like we need a bit of a breather anyway to solidify din and the kid’s relationship, but I don’t know what that will look like yet ofc or even if that will be a thing that happens. I just wanna know what’s going to happen dude!!!