#man idk. just chill tf out jesus christ. love and peace on planet earth and so forth
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man some people on here are so violently anti-vegan that even when they do make some solid points, theyd rather get mad at the one misinformation they included and tell them to kill themselves. can we all agree to just chill out a little.
#like fr where is the constructive discussion here#i feel like when a vegan says something people just see that theyre vegan and immediately stop reading anything they have to say#thats not to say that theres some truly insane over the top vegans out there and lets not even get to peta but damn.#there was a post where some vegan made some good and some blatantly false points where the links broke and they all lead to the same#outdated book#which yeah thats. not helpful at all.#but bc ppl just saw someone say the links were to an old book they immediately dismissed ALL the points that were made#one of the first points that were made as a counter to 'bees can just leave' (mostly true) was that some beekeepers clip the queen bees#wings to prevent her from leaving (also mostly true)#and the comments were full of people screaming that nobody does that and its a lie and exaggerated#when a 10 second google search can get you some very good sources and recent tutorials on how exactly to do that#like ethics and all aside - some beekeepers do clip the queen bees wings. that is true.#like just. i thought we were all at the point where we agreed to not just believe anything we read on the internet and look for sources to#form our own opinion#google is free#and you CAN have a discussion with someone even if you disagree on some points. you can talk to someone with a different opinion and#agree on some and disagree on others#my siblings are vegan and im not and we dont maul each other to death over it#and i know they make some good points and then they make others that we dont agree on and that is FINE#man idk. just chill tf out jesus christ. love and peace on planet earth and so forth
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