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Hello there 👋! With all the genderbent asked of DN you've received, who are your favourite genderbent characters and which ones do you hate? Which ones do you think will garner hate from the fandom and which ones do you think will be liked?
K:- I can't say I hate any of the gender swapped character in "always a different gender", as I spent enough brain energy on them, but one I found really didn't work for me was Male Syau. There just really wasn't a lot I felt I could do with him that Takada couldn't do better thematically. Female Matsuda could be interesting but is harder to give reason to why she is among the police in that particular time. And Male Sachicko and Fem Sochiro was fun to think about, and offer a lot of variables, which is both good and bad.
E:- Mmm I don't hate anyone at all here in the cast. I love male Misa though.
K:- We have had a lot of fun with Male Misa
As for who I like, Female Near has grown a lot on me, as has Rival Takada, and Cat Misa. I've gotten a lot more invested in all of them then I expected. I never expected posting that Female L convo we had would get so much attention and asks following from it.
I like that Male Misa, and his friendship with Female L has grown to have as much of a dynamic as Lady Light and L. And that Light and Takada have a one-sided rival dynamic.
E:-Oh totally. Which is gonna hurt when someone dies. L dying and Misa Misa is going" We have to uh cele-- ummmm"
His voice wavers a bit as he sniffles loudly and claps his hands," celebrate!"
K:-So many hearts are going to break in this climb for godhood. As for the fandom, I couldn't possibly begin to guess. I'm not even great at predicting which of my fanfictions are going to get a lot of attention.
What about you Eclipse? What are your preferences and predictions
E:-What is godhood if you hesitate to step on the lesser backs?
K:-Being a billionaire, and therefore not a clean path.
E:-I still prefer to end it with Light lashing out at the world, breaking the skin of the mask she spent so much time sculpting for it to all come down.
Not sure how it goes that way but Mikami still being a threat as is Misa.
K:-I don't know how I want it to end. Many things are going to break though.
E:-Misa dying after making too many eye deals.
K:-I don't think that's direct death, as it takes half a remaining lifespan.
Still, Misa taking an eye deal to get light out of the wearhouse and the Shinigami telling him "you will die tomorrow if you do this."
"Then what matters is what I get done today. Give me the eyes NOW!"
And Misa dies and Victory is both complete and hollow.
Light didn't make any eye deals, but something in her dies that day, surrounded by the bodies in the warehouse.
E:- a hollow victory indeed.
K:- what about you Anon? Who are you favorites, who do you dislike, and how would the fandom react to them based on what you know and observe?
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Female soichiro and male sachiko?
K:- Ok, so as a couple Soichiro and Sachiko are very traditional in their roles of Japanese society. Sochiro is the cop, with Ideals of Justice he passed onto Light, and Sachiko is their mother and homemaker.
How much of their personality is based on gender roles within Japanese society that they adhere to? Would Sachiko as a male have grown up more reckless, like Soichiro?
Would his sense of justice burn as brightly?
Maybe he became a cop for similar reasons to Matsuda in this AU. Would he have been the type of cop to join Ls investigation?
E:-I can think about, surprised that Machiko took up law enforcement.
There's always that disdain for house husbands.
K:-Well, I assumed she got into law enforcement the same way as Matsuda. Nepotism/ family on the force. Lol
E:-Lol ahaha! Nepotism changing lives once again.
K:-A Death Note story with no cop parents of Light, would change the vibe of the story a lot.
As far as I can remember, Sachiko's character traits seem to be supportive and caring. She's proud of Light for his academic success, supportive of Soichiro's convictions, and encouraging to Syau during her recovery. She has her trials, but we don't see her first hand reaction to them, only how she decides to handle them. If this holds true, she's cool headed and practical, and empathetic in a crisis, the blue oni to Soichiro's red. Sachiko is probably a different kind of cop then Soichiro.
This could bring a different vibe to denying L's accusations towards Light being Kira.
Would likely also make changes to Light, with a different kind of justice to look up to.
E:- a very different vibe indeed.
K:- Sochiro probably keeps his defensive attitude about his family and strong sense of justice across the gender swap. Sochiro is now mama bear, I guess. Which probably means if Syau still gets kidnapped, Mello might just focus on the wrong parent and get knocked out of the game earlier, lol. Anyway, Light could still grow up Learning from her mother's sense of Justice, and idealizing her Father, a police officer.
E:- OH totally
K:-Sad that this breaks up Sochiro and Matsudas friendship, though. If we want there to be more extreme change, we can have both of the parents be cops, which puts Light in an even more parental position to Sayu, since she is mostly raising her here. It might change her views on their jobs too, but she still might use the death note in resentment and maybe even hope that her parents being less bust might mean more time spent home. It's still a story about Ideals.
E:- That be an interesting read if they're both cops.
Both parents working makes the Yagami family non traditional, since they get good money and don't need to both be working, but do. Not going to get into the Japanese economic crisis here, and how that might have impacted their jobs and public opinion on Scorchio being more publicly committed to justice then raising her daughters, but there would be quite a bit of tension there, in the job and society.
E:-Sayu turning to Light as a maternal figure in her life. Girls get the burnt of raising their siblings regardless they are the oldest or middle child.
K:- I was close enough in age to be rival sibling to mine, so I wasn't.
Light raising Sayu as a guy would be an interesting story too. As with Light as her main Influence instead of someone she goes to for homework and help, what would that look like? Would her views be different?
E:-Your gained a rival 👏👏👏🤣
K:- I did
E:-Lol not me I was the mom essentially. Mom trusted me enough to even take care of luggage and a human being at the airport.
I say her views would be different.
As in my own case, parents where law buuut when you're the one that is around more to watch them they turn an ear to listen to you.
So essentially to Sayu , Light's words have a heavier weight than her parents would.
K:- I think this Sayu might be more academically inclined.
E:- Yes! True!!
K:-And honestly that could be really fascinating. Especially since it would change with Light's gender .
Would Sayu possibly gain an inferiority complex or downplay herself in other areas compared to her sibling who is perfect (so why try for unattainable?)
Or would Lights God complex take some hits in the interest of raising Sayu right?
E:-Good question. But I am drawing blanks here.
K:-Like I can see Light being protective. But with her looking up to Light so much, Sayu has a lot of potential to fly or be burned. I guess it would have to depend on author and where they are going with it. But Light doesn't tend to let most people in, coming off as charming and charismatic.
Still in this scenario, Sayu grows up under Light and is soo shaped by that.
And relationships with Light are a dangerous thing.
E:-Light is like a stone fruit. Pleasing and sweet on the outside a hard stone in the center. Take too big of a bite and you'll hurt yourself.
K:-My favorite Sayu shaped by Light take is probably Silver Pard's Redivivus.
-"Light knew how to deal with nightmares. Light kept all the dark things away, and he could be scarier than any funny shadows anyway. He sighed quietly as he sat down again and pulled her gently into his lap. "Want a story?"
She nodded again, and silently offered to share the blanket. He looked tired and worn, and she didn't think he could deal with her talking right now – he always said she was too noisy and happy after he'd been shouting at his computer. He snorted slightly and let her arrange it around them both with a weary kind of patience.
It was times like these that Sayu forgot Light was only three years older than her. There was this funny thing about the shadows in Light's room, especially at night, which made him look weird. Old-eyed sort of weird, and kind of scary.
But he was her brother, so he was scary for her, so that was okay."-
Also this, when their parents come back from date night
"I think Sayu might have traumatized him by playing dolls with him," she offered quietly when Soichiro stopped next to her and gave her a puzzled glance. Probably at Light's behest, she added in her mind.-"
E:-ONG
K:-A third option could have Sachiko stay home understanding of his wife's ambitions and sense of justice, but there's still a tension in that. Still non traditional. Light looks up to her mother, and wants to be like her, here. The Yagamis are probably quite not quite as well off here. Hmm, I know people with families are likelier to get promotions in Japan as they have families to feed, but is that equally applied across genders? Would the Job be subtly trying to get Sachiko to come back through wages? I don't know enough to say? Eclipse? Know more about this one?
E:-I think it would be but if we're with the options that both are working its possible Sachiko would be offered the promotions at foremost than Sochiro would be. Sochiro is likely to still promote but at a noticeable slow rate than that of Sachiko.
The thing is what again is brought in by nepotism and that of the Japanese workforce of WHO your upper classmen is in these situations. Workforce Japan is another thing to navigate especially that of the Japanese workforce.
Or officers. I can see a major subtle or not so subtle barbs at fem Sochiro in these situations.
K:-Yah that would track
E:-Even if Sachiko is driven by justice, he in this situation would be seen more or less as a bad father for not being able to provide more their kids. However, in Sachiko part they would more freedom in cases and choosing their protégé so to speak.
Sochiro on the other hand will get smack from fellow officers and detectives, while adding in public opinion from neighbors.
Community can help but can also be merciless to those who don't fit the mold.
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Your answer was soo very sad 😭😭, I feel like I could cry by just reared going it, yet accurate, I had a hard time recovering from it, but it was still good thorough and on point, along with the female near persona! You really, really did a great job! Can you expand on a male takada, misa, sayu, and their dynamic, along with how they interact with fem light and L, and fem matsuda, you can take your time.
K:-I'm really happy you enjoyed it! It's great to hear you reread it, and checked out the post about Personas in Death note, and Female Near specifically! Glad you told us too, It's nice to hear that it had such an Impact. Hope the wait didn't feel too long for this one.
E:-Male Takeda sounds hot. But ughhhhhhBut the insecurities reek though through the cracks.
K:-Soo Male Takada goes back to rivalry with Misa.
E:-Oh yeah totally no doubt about that. Just dirty looks the whole time. Jabs at eachother.
Male Takada hmmm so he' s more giving me the vibe of a bit lax. JK. No I feel like Takeda is pretty damn stressed. The expectations of him landing everything perfectly.
K:-A part of me wants to keep the rivalry with Light, as the one-sided rivalry is far more interesting then her interactions with OG Light. It also has potential to bring misogyny into the rivalry, as losing to male Light is one thing, but as mentioned in the first Fem L post, female geniuses are not given the leeway males are. So like flip cannon a little except Takada also has some simmering resentment of Light being so smart and how that hurt his rep. E:-Yesss! The resentment can be more towards a fem Light too. It's pretty scary how some guys can take losing to another person. But while Takeda is not a confrontational person per se, there is that air of tension when him and Light scores are up.
K:-With all that, Light probably knows Takada is resentful and is reluctant to involve him in the Death Note plans, unless she snaps and decides to get rid of her "rival" by making him the planned fall guy.
E:-Emotions are a juggling motion for a male Takeda. The resentment of losing to Light who doesn't take him seriously and the admiration they have for Light.
K:-Takada isn't sure if they have UST or just UT, jk.
E:-Lol. I like seeing that route of offing male Takeda vs having OG Takeda as a spokesperson.
K:- Takada would still probably be a mouthpiece. Light is good at planting things.
This could totally be a different endgame! Near and Mello have to first prove Takada is not the only Kira to a world that wants the case wrapped up.
E:-Yesss! Takeda wasn't even a Kira simply a figurehead for the cult to listen to. Or a corrupted Pope if you want to go the religious way so to speak.
K:-Hmm, I would like to say Takada has killed as Kira, but is more of a figurehead. And that allows Light to pull another memory gambit potentially.
E:-Now that I think about it, has og Takeda killed anyone beside Mello?
K:- I presumed. As they were covering.
E:- I think Light has a gamblimg problem. Seeing all these high stakes they keep pulling.
K:-"Takada. I need you to keep the true Kira a secret. Do this, and we can achieve victory. Even if you have to give up ownership for awhile." Light kneels and looks up at Takada, unbuttoning layers. "I trust you"
I don't think Takada met most of the others, sooo
L is dismissive of Takada in Their one interaction. Takada is dismissive of female Matsuda in turn. Syau calls him a bully. Syau looks at the two guys, fighting for her brothers attention and things "being popular sure must be stressful for Light." Syau will take the idol who worships Light, over the one who has mixed feelings on her. Syau was just pretty Glad L was Lights intellectual equal. She asks weird questions to Syau, so overall Syau finds reasons to be busy when she visits. I do think Syau and Female Matsuda would make good friends. Sort of mentorish maybe. It could be pretty cute.
E:-I like to think L takes Sayu more seriously than other people. Sayu isn't just Light yagami's younger sibling.Sayu not liking Male Takeda is a yes. I wouldn't like him either as a pretty boy or not. Okay but like I can totally see Male Misa choosing outfits for Light. Things that will suite her so nicely, chic clothes, nice bags he got as favors. Matching clothes. Things to rub in male Takeda's face when Light visits him.
K:-Light already has good taste, but this kicks it up several notches. Yah, Syau is cautious around L. But she likes her. Wait? Is L using a female celebrities name this time? As hilarious as it would be to steal Misas name for this, the gender swap makes it unlikely.
E:-Misa Misa really glamming it up for her. Hell he makes sure it stays in what would be her taste but has a bit more flair!
WHO SAYS WE CAN'T DO THAT LMAO!
Never stopped L before. We never gave Misa a male name so L can still totally take it as a gender neutral name lol!
K:-"So mother. Syau. This is Misa Amane my boyfriend, and Misa Amane my new bestie"
E:- "...twins?"
K:- "Nope"
E:-L sends Misa a group chat called "Twinsies"
Misa totally blocks her jk jk
K:- I mean, I could go and have fun with names, but gender is irrelevant for a lot of the names as they are fake, last names, or neutral enough to work for either. Misa probably should be an exception actually, but its working well enough, and just as importantly amusing.
E:-True true. L being a menace to Misa is a universal experiences regardless of gender.
K:- Also Misa could block it, or engage in a petty war of attempting one upmanship.
"So you want to play fake with me, girl? I've been acting while you hid behind a laptop. Game on"
And so they go to the festival together. Passive aggressively friendly.
E:-Its that painful fake smiles
"Best friends!"
"Best friends!"
Aggressive arm holding
K:-There is a scrapbook. Light shows up in some of the pictures looking resigned. Matsuda Is the photographer.
E:- Sayu looks like she is having a fun time. Scrapbooking is a very normal bestie thing to do. L going to Misa photoshoots as support. "Whooooo go Misa Misa! Pouty eye looks!"
K:-Misa dragging L onto the stage with her at the photoshoot.
*him* Although fake besties OG Misa and Female L would be art
Light is Soo jelly. And won't admit it. Her rival is spending more time with her "boyfriend" then her.
E:-Bahahahah! Light being jealous is just iceing to this multi layer cake K!
Matsuda is being so unhelpful right now lmao "its so great to see you best friend and bf get along!"
Light crushing her yogurt cup: "fantastic"
Yes it is art and we are keeping this K!
The Misa Misa photoshoot lmao!
K:-Is that how Takada gets back in the picture. Lights like "maybe I can get my actual rival to pay attention to me if I pay attention to my fail rival"
I mean, she is probably taking full advantage of L being distracted by Misa, just angrily writing down criminal names. She's broken a few pens.
E:-Omgggf. How did we turn it into those highschool drama 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine Light telling Misa he doesn't have to fake besties with L!
K:-Misa (I can't lose this far in. I have to Deny it)
"Light -Chan. L and I have truly become besties"
E:- Only for Misa to turn around slowly with shopping bags he got from an unexpected shopping trip with his now actual bestie L
"Uhhh, I dunno Light, we have a special bond only Misa's can understand."
K:- Death note was written as a tradagy and we are just going for comedy. And it would be a Uni drama AU, Lol.
Oh shit, that has huge tragedy written on it Later, if post Yotsuba gambit both of them are reluctant to kill L because she's a genuine friend.
E:-Lmaooo! Murder is just a side plot lets be real!That is a tragedy. Misa doesn't talk to Light for weeks after. He's still right by her, but he hasn't said a word at all. He has this empty look in his eyes.
"....I should talk to my brother."
"You have a brother?"
You know?
K:- I know. Light is taking it badly too.
Yes there's murder and gambits, but also this is more personal and interpersonal, as a lot of the asks for this AU are about character dynamics and interactions. And I'd never expected of all the the ideas I've put onto the internet, that this one would be so asked about, but it has had a lot of fun concepting.
E:-In a plot twist L slowly convincing Misa to unhinge on Light.
K:-Alternatively , L doesn't let them get a chance to get their memories back.
E:-Yessss
K:- and so defeats Kiras with the power of friendship.
E:-Friendship really does save the day.
I like how we took all the tragedy of Death Note and turned it into a romance comedy with a dash of murder and supernatural
K:- me too.
Light Yagami had a choice between an intellectual equal, and his view of justice. L had a choice between an intellectual equal and the highest stakes case ever. And in the end neither of them chose eachother. The show became a tragedy the moment L picked Kira over Light. I don't know if I would call it a romance, but trust could have saved them if they let it.
and in canon they didn't trust. But here, there is a maybe chance.
Just so many maybe divergent points in the story
E:-You are absolutely right about the choices they made in the end. True true.
K:- Male Syau? Thats likely to be a tenser relationship between them then any setup so far. Kind of makes me sad. Because Light and Syau as brother and sister has all the expectations on Light, and Syau free to do her own thing more or less, Light and Syau Sisters probably closer, but older sis light and little bro Syau. That's going to have tension and gender expectations playing into it.
A Light who wants to go into Justice (and is discouraged) will have resentment towards Syau who is expected to follow his father into justice and doesn't care. And Syau would be in the shadow of her older sister who she can't live up to, and probably looked down on for not being able to. Because gender means he should be smarter then his sister, even if he knows he can't match Lights intensity.
I think I would prefere to keep Syau female, and focus on a sister relationship thats strengthened. Having her a guy would feel like I'm recycling beats from Takada, and watering them down without the rivarly.
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E:-Now what sticks out to us from Misa?
She is smart
She's very cute
Clingy to Light
Jealous
Obsessed.
Charming.
A bit naive.
Now a male Misa would still have these traits. And the naive part will still be there, it is a part of Misa. However since this is still set in pre 2000 era, he would still have his own set of stalkers. Female stalkers are not taken seriously. Good luck with a male stalker in Japan, worse with a female stalker.
Male Misa would have to swallow down a bitter pill about this. Misa is naive, but he isn't dumb as everyone thinks. He knows he's very pretty. He can use that, Misa has been scouted as a male model in an industry that prey on their own assets- I mean employees.
K:- What fashion do you think he would do?
E:-I wanna say true to the gothic vibe of the show, same as Misa. However, they are models so he does have a wide variety of them.
K:-Still be lolita? Boystyle?
E:- He does have a niche in the lolita. However its small not very big compared to the female ones. Mix of punk. I can still see him being pressured into dating higher up women no matter how few. Or benefactors.
Misa Misa has to deal with that too.
K:- How would Lady Light look dating Misa?
E:-From Hamaguchi to upfront telling she refuses to do nude no matter what. Oohh.
She doesn't think highly of him either. I doubt her parents would even LET him walk in.
Depends. Sayu let Misa in when she was a girl right? Was it because she recognized her?
K:-Syau is into models.
E:-If so then a male Misa would still be popular, probably more so. Male idols are admired more right? Girl idols have a very rough time in the entertainment industry from inner working and fans alike. Sayu is probably losing it over a male Misa here and I wouldn't blame her either. He has a mask on though when he shows up. His blonde hair sticks out like a sore thumb.
K:- Misas bottle blonde you know.
E:- True. Forgot about that.
K:-Syau is still a girl so far.
E:- so far! Can't erase all the girl characters here!
K:-Do you think Light and Syau are closer as sisters?
E:-I like to think so! Sayu admires her brother. And probably her big sister more. Her cool big sister who she talks a lot more with than her brother.
Sayu is more of the friendly of the two to me at least.
K:- Hey Eclipse, if the death note was used as printable paper would it count, if printed with a name and face?
E:-Ohhh. That is a good question.
K:- Yah I can see her be the cool,slightly aloof popular big sister, and her bubbly popular little sister.
E:-Oh God I feel for their Dad now. The stress. Jk. Male Misa is more obsessive. A savior, a goddess is what fem Light is to him.
K:-I hadn't thought that could deepen
E:-I can see it develop more. He's jealous, he doesn't like attention taken away. Cares more about who Light might have interest in, like his female counterpart.
K:-Hmm, would it be displayed differently?
E:-Misa recognizes Kira as true justice after killing the killer of her parents after a botched robbery. Why did she get Shinigmai eyes again btw?
K:- to find him.
To help him.
E:-To be of use to him.
Only if she can be his girlfriend.
Ohh Misa uses colored contacts ahah I forgot she had blue too.Misa is reckless. Impulsive.
K:-who else takes the biggest risk and pay gambits in the series? Pre season 2 it was Misa! And then Season 2 it was Mello. They are united in being blonde daredevils.
E:-*slams hands* YES! You wrote a good understanding of a fem Matt and I am all for her btw.Which a motivated Matt would be fun to see. Depression and suicidal is a constant with Misa. The trauma affected her so badly, and spiraled down worse when the killer was about to get away with it if it wasn't for her Light.Your analogy of grabbing onto a rope is so accurate with this.
K:- thank you
E:-Reminds me of the silk thread of a spider that came from the gods to save a single person. The entertainment industry is cruel to both female and male entertainers. Both have allegations of abuse and sexual abuse.
Added into this with Misa during her trials of having to fight off not JUST stalking, her workplace and her mental health declining.
She is such a tragic character. A male Misa would spiral into this as well. Mental health is very stigmatized in the Eastern world. Everything was for the sake of meeting Kira.
K:- no wonder she has such a present persona. It's her stepford smile. Worn in hopes of making everything ok one day
E:-Hope. What a fragile thing. I wonder if that's what attracted the shinigami to her. I can see it. I mean even now years after the series I can feel for Misa for being what she became. What he will become.A fem Light that gaslights the hell out of you and an obsessed Misa who cares about this person who in their mind gave him justice when the courts failed to serve. In a way. Would Misa even care if Kira turned out to be a boy or a girl?
K:- probably not.
E:-Okay my brain is flatlining. I wanna see more about Misa. But Male Misa has me going mmm.
K:-We talk about both regards
E:-I am still thinking about the rope analogy.
The rope that can save you. Or be the one you hang from. That is the devotion someone has towards Kira. Male Misa will not take well to Mikami. Even worse to L regardless of a fem L. The gender bias is real. The male team minus her dad? Oof. The fact she can slip away easily. Wait!Who the fuck was watching the bathroom tapes! I have words L!
K:- assuming it all goes down the same.
… probably L… you know since shes kira.
E:-Gah! I meant about Light's family. Ahhhh.
K:-Sorchio:- stop spying on my daughter, lesbian!
L:- eating sweets while watching Stau, Light, and Sachiko
*Sochrios rage is rising
Nah JK, but he is pretty frustrated by this girl watching all the ladies in his family's home shower. And it probably wouldn't be different in canon. Unless theres like, some hired Lady whose main job it is to watch the female surveillance tapes of the showers.
E:-How did Sochiro not lose it before? That man ages decades on this case.
K:- I don't know.
E:-L offers him a strawberry in these trying times.
K:-Sochrios eye twitches.
E:-L: Can I offer you a strawberry in this trying times?
Oh God, Sochiro shooting down any attempts male Misa has to date his daughter
K:-Parts of the task force ship doomed romance
E:-Soichiro: Light, I only have so much resistance at this point
Light: Don't you mean patience?
Sochiro: No, resistance
K:-That flips the scene where Light claims to move in with Misa as a reason for not being in contact to true. Misa spends his time trying to convince an overprotective dad that he has no plans to defile his daughter.
"I will worship her like the goddess she is. She is the light of my life."
E:-Misa: If anything I respect her so much! She's my saviour!
Sochiro:*even in more distressed*
K:-Does Sayu do anything differently? Imagine her getting mad at her dad on Light and Misas behalf. Like in canon, she was probably like "woo Light, stick with your love"
But here she's like "Dad, that Light! You didn't do that to her!"
Ohh imagine Both Girls Light and Misa- Dad, if Misa Amane was interested in Me, I would walk out too. Let them be bisexual!"
E:-Hell yes!!Sayu supporting her sister!
Sayu: Dad this is the FIRST time ever, Light even let a guy hold her hand!
Sayu: Dad Misa makes more than most people do her age! She's rich, beautiful and wants to date Light!
…Can I say I see Takeda as kinda hostile towards fem Light.
K:-Wait, are we doing a turnabout and having her interested in Misa? Or flipping all the Kira's genders?
But yah Female Takada and Light would be rivals I think.
Lady Light:- "I don't need another rival in my life. There's already Takada, and that's far too much."
E:-I think lets stay with the main cast for now. Ugh an all female task force would sound great. YAhoo breaking dumb norms.
Maybe or maybe not. Takeda seems more interested in good looking men who seem to be in the same tier as her or just as intelligent. Maybe she would be interested in Misa. But Misa is childish and impulsive.
K:-Takada might not be a kira. Or interested in Misa in that case.
E:-True.
K:-Maybe Takada thinks she can manipulate Misa?
E:-Lmao is it mean of I can see Light not see her as a threat in a way?There are people you can respect. But afraid?
K:- not afraid. Annoyed. Light is annoyed by Takada's declaration of rivalry. "Uggh why are you here. I thought I was free from you upon graduating"
E:-L keeps her on her toes in a way Takeda can't. Rivals tend to push each other.
K:-Having one rival Is annoying enough. Oh. Oh! So L is what its like to have an actual good rival!"
Takada you are demoted from rival!
Misa, when I said to find someone to be an extra Kira, I did not mean My PATHETIC excuse of an Ex rival!
E:-Ahahaha! I can't even😂😂😂
Oooh Takeda that such an ego hit. You weren't even a good enough Rival to her.
Also I can very much see male Misa pushing Takeda as a second Kira because like hell he's letting Mikami coming near Light.
K:-They both end up becoming Kiras.
E:-yeah Mikami is weird but damn if Misa has some insecurities about Mikami who finished school with a good rep *ehh M guessing on that but he works for a good company which can be respected more than an idol*
Misa didn't even like Takeda and has issues with her near Light. And Light did sleep with her.
K:-A man Lights dad would approve of. Oh shit.
E:-SEE! SEE WHAT I MEAN!
K:- Misa:- Takada, it is vital to you being a Kira that you date Mikimai.
E:-OH MY GOD! I can see that! Ahahahah
Look he evens fits her criteria to date!
K:-If Takada weren't sleeping with Light it could have happened
E:-See Light! Misa ties up BOTH of your annoyances with each other!
K:-Let's have Takada actually take Misa as a threat.
Takada:-Mikamai, I need you to date me!
Mikamai:- why?
Takada:-Misa Amane was the Kira who did the Sakura TV takeover.
Mikamai:- ok? What does that have to do with anything.
Takada:- he's also really really into Light.
Mikamai:- understandable
Takada:- no no. You don't understand. He's a ruthless man who will do anything to keep Lights attention on him. Do you really think he won't hesitate to kill you for it. He might kill me if I fail at this.
Mikamai:- I see. In that case would you mind joining me for dinner
E:-Ohhhh!! 😄
Hey!Would it be funny if Misa was the one Mikami latched onto. Wait wait too many au's already… unless 👀
K:-Mikamai thinks back and goes :- oh shit, I can see it happening
It would be but I have a harder time seeing it.
E:-I like how Mikami just accepts it.
True. Light being Kira to him is more reasonable than someone who's reckless and lead by feelings. But both lost their parents and were deeply depressed individuals. Who had lost faith in a justice system.
K:- do they ever talk about it? They should.
E:- nope
K:- they really should.
E:- I don't even think they interacted in canon.
K:- wasted opportunity.
E:-Finally Misa gets a male friend.
K:- besides L somehow. Despite his... Interrogation methods
E:-And his....appreciating her works.
K:- somehow. Maybe forget but not forgive is why he was so gung ho to kill him.
E:-"L is a pervert, enough said.""Ehhh Misa-Misa gets he's cute, but no touching!"
"Hey hands off the clothes! They're designer!"*being shoved into a black car*
K:- yah he gave her plenty of reasons. Now if only Syau could get back at Mello for kidnapping and traumatizing the hell out of her.
E:-Why must women suffer for men to make a point. Wonder what fem L take on Misa is. Err male Misa. We seem to have gone off the point.
K:- that's the fun of it. So L and Male Misa?
E:-There is absolutely nothing wrong about liking a male idol. For looks or just for their cuteness. Why must there be so much shame for girls admiring a guy. Why did L even like Misa image again?
K:- I assumed that was for Irony. Or maybe I built that reason in my head?
E:-maybe. We can apply as canon doesn't specify why. Or maybe its just to mess with her. "You're dumb. I like that in a man."
Ohhh that would make him so mad.
K:-But like, imagine it is full on genuine
L:- This case has everything! Intellectual rivalry, pissing off an entire police task force, and I get to meet my favorite idol. She's a possible Kira, which is a bit of a bummer, but I probably wouldn't get the chance otherwise.
E:-Oh my God. Finally L has a case he actually wants to be on. Lamo. Its a bummer she is probably a 2nd Kira but hey I get to meet my fav. Fem L *inwardly fangirling*
K:-But yah it probably is mostly to mess with them. Though by the end I like to think L became an actual fan of the style (exposure, like a hit song that replays on the radio becomes annoying but then it's gone and you miss it. )
E:-You know Misa has more interaction as a male counterpart so far. So unfair : (
K:- Death Note was not great to its female characters.
E:- it rarely was. I feel horrible for Lights mom. Picking up the pieces of her family.
K:-I would have liked to see Misa go evil female counterpart like she was supposed to. Yah Sachiko had it rough.
E:-Ugh we got robbed. She did. Dead husband, dead son who committed mass murder, and a traumatized daughter who is relearning how to live.
K:-Seen any good fic of post canon sachiko?
E:-I seen more Mpreg Light than Sachiko.
K:- but there should be.
E:-She took a path I wouldn't have in that headspace. But at least people can understand why she did it. And what pushed her.
K:-Wait. Does Male Misa still cook?
E:-Probably yes. Just not as often.
K:-Cause like I remember a female Misa had a cooking channel?
E:-Wait really?!How did I miss that! Fuck yeah let male Misa cooking channel begin!
Is pretty good at it.
Takeda ate it once, chewing spitefully slow despite how much she wants to shove more into her mouth.
"It's dry "*this is perfect but he mustn't know*
K:-Is Takaeda going "god dammit hes hot and a good cook"
E:-Heheheh. He's actually pretty smart when he thinks its more thoroughly. Ugh hot, smart and can cook. Why did he have to go after Light. K this case is a hot mess of relationships! I NEED THIS!
K:-Hooray, we have traffic accidents happening everywhere! So theres Takada who is into Misa but is dating Mikimau, who is into Light who is dating Misa, while he dates Takada. And Sayu who is also into Misa. Lol, nothing serious on Sayu's end.
Also Takada and Light who are ex rivals
E:-Misa just keeps attracting people left and right. Aahahah Takeda got demoted from rival jk.
K:-The rivalry is strong on Takadas side. Its one sided.
E:-You know, This is a perfect mix of getting Takeda to slip up with leaving with her bodyguards as a spokeswoman. Little chances. Getting Takeda alone is important.
Rage rage rage.
K:- you make a good point. Elaborate.
E:-Takeda having that moment of clarity that while SHE values having Light as a rival, Its not the same on Light's part. Light can say she has her uses, but Light's respect on a rival is one that is dead and gone.
Chasing after someone who doesn't even look back at you is infuriating, humiliating.
Especially to someone with pride-"We were supposed to be allies!"Then wow someone you actually like alot, only their obsessed with your rival. Dating someone who yes knows this is supposed to be saving both your asses. Also stings knowing your not even seen as someone as partner. Yes it's nice to be adored by the public. Don't *shakes hands* ya know
Its fucks with someone enough. I can see her storm off the platform, ignoring her personal guards leaving through a backway door no one else goes through than employees. And that's more than enough to snatch someone out of public eyes. Alleyways are underused in such a giant city.
K:- that tracks hard.
E:- thank you
K:- but I still say female L would have not wanted a task force. But I guess it's not really Death Note without the task force.
E:-I like emotional wreckd. Its therapeutic and hurts alot because as much as I love logic.I love the realization that you're not wanted as much as you think you are .....for fics!!
Yes exactly!Maybe it was a national pride thing? They did include other agencies around the world to join I think right? It would look worse that not even Japan, where Kira is supposedly based on, would help.
K:-But would L really want to Join one? Or would she just send Watari and keep talking over computers?
E:-She can send Watari.
K:-Hmm,I did say she wouldn't want to put up with sexist bullshit. But she needs the socialization I guess.
E:-Watari: L you need to talk to people
L:*swivels in chair* I do talk to people, I just talked to a bunch of men who don't understand broadcast geography
Watari: I mean a face to face conversation
L: why would you say that to me....is it because I haven't eaten enough vegetables
K:- its cannon now Eclipse!
Watari:- you don't go to any of the social events I tried to send you to. So I arranged one where you can at least talk about your prefered interests.
L:- with who
Watari:- your new task Force
L:- *with cake in mouth* My what now?
E:-L: I can't believe you did this to me. I trusted you Watari
Watari: I just want what's best for you
L: You could have gotten me a cat for the same price
K:-Does that mean a cat shows up that L talks too when she doesn't want to talk to the task force. Sometimes talking shit about the task force with the cat.
Quick, what would L, stealer of other detectives names, decide the most passive aggressive thing to name her cat be?
E:-She would steal another persons name. As per usual.
K:- but whose would be the funniest?
E:-"You know what, I'll name you after a favorite model of mine."*Crimes committed against Misa by L.
K:- that does spark joy!
E:-Stealing model Hideki name lol what are even names to L?The cat is even a blonde cat. Who is very cute but will cut a hoe.
K:- fitting. Does that mean he calls Misa human Misa?
E:- yes! Yes and yes!
Cat Misa yowles
L: Quiet Misa
Misa Misa: Excuse me?!
L: Not you human Misa, Misa here wants attention
K:-Is human Misa being Mean to Misa? Yes he is. Yes he is.
E:-L:*petting cat Misa*: you are the most intelligent person in this room Misa
Misa:*perks up* Thanks L!
L: Sorry I was talking to my cat, what happened?
He gets moody if Light praises cat Misa too.
Like bruh. That is just a kick to your ego
K:-Insult to Ls Ego. They Kept cat Misa after L died!Which is just rude. After all, fem Near is even worse at social interaction then Fem L.
Lol fem Mello
Mello- in exchange for Syau Yagamis life, I want the death note, and Misa.
Light:- you can't have a hostage in exchange for a hostage.
Mello:- I meant Misa the cat.
Light:- you can't have a hostage in exchange for a hostage.
In actuality.
Light:- Misa, can you go and save my sister? And kill them all? (And he would)
E:-The audacity!It was already bad enough they killed her! Now they take her cat too!
K:- they earned being L's successors.
E:-Mello wants to avenge L, beat Near and get the cat back: This bitches. That means getting the cat too. Cat Misa hisses at male Misa. Lol Cat Misa goes missing before the big meet up. Only to show up in Near's possession.
Light actually felt offended
K:-I like to think cat misa eventually tolerates human Misa. But this cat likes the ladies.
E:-Eventually. ..Misa can put a wig on then jk. Purrs on Takeda's lap. This cat is a tomcat lol.
K:-Oh my god. Near shows up petting Cat Misa like a bond villain.
E:-As Near should.
Light feeling betrayed by her own cat: I can't believe this Misa
Near: Misa just preferred the real L
*Matt is the reason they even got the cat.
K:-some kind of noodle incident. Eclipse?
The warehouse scene just becomes a court battle for custody of the cat!
E:- Yes!
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Do you have some headcanons of fem l and light?
K:- a few
E:-Fem L. "Biggest fangirl for Misa Misa"
Will never admit it out loud, but inwardly was very glad she finally got to meet him even if he did get arrested for being a 2nd Kira.
Fem L probably has a closet full of similar clothes with multi shades of color. Watari has been beside himself trying to get her to socialize.
K:- Female Light made a point of being very good at DDR. She likes to play it off as effortless and graceful winner, but though she dislikes acting on it out loud, she's very competitive. That Misa is better then her at it bothers her.
She's not sure if it's worse when Misa forgets and wins, or looses on purpose and Light has to live with knowing that.
Misa is better then L and Light. It bothers both of them. L is more vocal about it.
E:-Lmao Misa Misa is better than DDR and this is unacceptable.
At first it was a light friendly competition to Misa, until hours later Misa is begging Light to get off the Machine see! Misa misa lost this time!
Light: Don't you dare look down on me!*sweaty huffy mess*
Bahahah L even is bothered by this. Misa always looks so good and put together while he leaves both of them in the dust.
K:-When did those come out?
E:-L has a cabinet dedicated to nothing but sugary ceral in the headquarters.
K:- Poker face is 2008, by Lady Gaga. Then again there are multiple songs named Poker Face.
Kira case started in 2003 and part 2 started 2009…Hey Imagine them dancing to Evanescence? Or shake your tail feathers.
E:-WAKE ME UP INSIDE! 🎶
K:- 🎶 Bid my blood to run! Before I come undone 🎶
E:- 🎶SAVE MEEEE TOOOOONIGGGGHHHHHT 🎶
K:-How insane do you think an office karaoke party would go?
Light is an OK singer . She can carry it compantatly, but has a better ear then her voices ability to preform, so prefers to hum.
L does have a nice voice, but does not want to preform publicly. She's kind of self councious about it
Misa is trained professionally of course
Matsuda is not good and cares more about having fun then being self conscious.
E:-Omg imagine Watari is just killing it at the karaoke bar! I love this now! We can never let this go!
K:- Its canon now Eclipse!
Hmm
Lady Light did in fact help set up traps to protect Syau's Diary once. She's always been really careful about poking around her room since.
Sayu's friend:- you could look at your sisters notes
Sayu:- not without her permission
Friend:- you could sneak in
*Sayu has a flashback to the time Light set up traps around Syau's Diary*
Sayu:- no thank you, I like my hands as they are
Friend: say what now?
Sayu: my sister really values privacy.
Actually that probably explains how canon Light knew how to trap a desk and why Syau was never hurt poking around it.
She had some caution installed in her long ago.
E:-Omg! That's so sweet of Light! But also where did she learn how to rig a bomb lmaoooo! Things male Light does also makes me squint at him.
K:-Where does a Japanese kid learn to rig a desk bomb in the 90s?Tell me Obata! Where!
E:-Honestly these crazy kids and their pyro antics.
K:- hmm between Mello and Light, you have a point. Unrelated, but if Light had a chance, she would probably be intrested in hunting with Birds. Like, Lights a poupluar person who spends time keeping up grades and poupluarity, and sports are there to look cool and be good at, but I think solitude and a chance to foccus with one animal and not put up with the expecations of people, and just the care and teaching of the hawk ir whatever would probably have been good for Light, regardless of gender. But the thought of Light Yagami sending her bird to try to scare L is one that makes me laugh.
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As always, your response was so lovely and well thought out, and the dynamic of fem light and male syau, too! So, would fem light sleep around like OG light does, or flirt as much? I feel as though her parents would be kind of overprotective, lol, also how would fem mello dress?
K:- we are happy to hear that. We are having fun, and its good to hear you are too. I'm thinking that Mello would still go "fuck gender conventions" but don't have any specific expecations in mind for that.
And Lady Light would use it a lot more sparingly then OG Light, but it is still a tool in her arsenal to be used if the occasion fits.
Like, I get the sense that Light does not care about sex beyond it giving Light Power over someone.
E:- I don't think Mello would changed wardrobe that much tbh.
K:-You do have fun with the fashion. So I thought I should ask.
E:-Is it weird I can see her wear lighter clothes near the end? Like in colors doesn't have to be white. Purples or dark greens.
Purple in the symbolic sense or penance, and sacrifice and preparation. Purple for funerals.
K:-Reds and whites?
E:-Red is a sign of devotion and for martyrs.
White for resurrection and celebration of the deceased life. That also brings another point in Near. I also can see Mello with more fur trimming but that is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Boots boots boots. Matt has a harder time finding shoes in Mellos closet than boots.
Is it weird I can Mello be those people who don't sweat a lot.
Mello probably has a smell of soft baby powder to not chafe in that
K:- that would track. Babypowder and bomb smell
E:-Bomb smoke and baby powder. With a bit of sweetness of chocolate. Part of the mafia funding goes to leather and chocolate.
K:- yah Leather has a smell too. Leather, chocolate, bombs and baby powder.
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