#major andre

[pettyshippen]

@turnwashingtonsbaddies

[honorhearted]

TURN-themed Valentines

[bottledkriegmen]

i watched this video today and im still raving about it oh my god

its really surprising how people don't?? talk about it more?? its such a big insight on the behind the scenes of zero day with most of Ben Coccio's reasonings for doing certain things certain ways.. UGDJDGD I LOVE THIS VIDEO GOGO WATCH IT NEEOWWW

i screen recorded a bunch of cool (and pretty funny) talking points which i might,, post about later,, 😋😋

[rhcenyra]

André is the head of British Intelligence and bases his operations out of New York. Far more versed in counter espionage tactics than his counterpart, Ben Tallmadge, he is experienced and cunning in his ability to take down targets. Known for his keen eye for human weakness, André employs a variety of methods to turn sources and isn’t above using sex, money and the promise of power to get his man.

[simcoesleftear]

turnposting: tweets edition

[hewlettscute]

I've come out of retirement

[ms-march]

TURN Week: Loyalist

to the surprise of no one I’m going to have to go with loyalist this week! I am happy to admit I’m way too much of a rule follower that I would’ve been on the other side of the revolution 🥲

[coolthingsguyslike]

[ouiouixmonami]

A while back I posted about how in the book Benedict Arnold: Patriot and Traitor by Willard Sterne Randall the author confuses John Laurens for Henry Laurens on two separate occasions.

I also posted about an unbecoming portrait of John André that I found in the book. In the same post, I mentioned that the author speculated that John André was in a homosexual relationship with Sir Henry Clinton, so now I'm here to share the details, or rather...lack thereof.

During the American Revolution, John André was quickly promoted (within about two weeks) to chief of the British intelligence operations. About this, Randall says:

There were also some Loyalists in New York City who believed that John André had risen so far so fast because he was having a homosexual affair with the commander in chief. There is no proof and very little in print on the subject, but there have been persistent rumors ever since. There is that suggestive remark by the staunch Chief Justice Smith about young men, men "without reputation, young and raw," rewarded for no apparent military ability or achievement and former staff officer Stephen Kemple's disgusted comment about the "unheard-of promotion" of "boys not three years in service." But if Clinton chose to alternate his dalliances between the sexes, he was much too discreet, as was André, to leave any evidence behind. André, the would-be thespian, was always playing a role, but there seems more than acting or the obsequiousness of the courtier in his notes to Clinton, nor are they a son to his father. His letters to Sir Henry are so strikingly intimate, self-deprecating, and ever solicitous to cover up Clinton's faults. And Clinton would one day be even more immobilized than usual when he lost his intimate young friend. Moreover, the evidence of the documents does not fully explain the venom directed toward Clinton by other career officers and Loyalist leaders (461-462).

Randall mentions "persistent rumors" but does not provide examples, and references intimate letters, but does not provide excerpts. Sure, I could locate their letters online and read them for myself, but why does he not provide any context to substantiate his argument? This would have been the perfect opportunity to do so. There are also no footnotes or endnotes related to the two quotes referenced in the above text, which is a bit bothersome.

Ultimately, this is perhaps the most bizarre speculation I have personally come across (so far!) in my reading and now I'm wondering...what do you think?

[pettyshippen]

Sarah trying to sleep as Major Andre and Peggy Shippen have loud obnoxious sex down the hall from her room while Andre is quartered at Dr. Franklins house.

[honorhearted]

TURNsgiving2023

Despite their different p.olitical leanings, Hewlett, Andre, and Ben all have the same fascination with the sciences and innovation. Every single one of them exhibited a classic "geek-out sesh" (i.e. Hewlett with his telescope; Andre with Franklin's inventions; and Ben examining the inventions in the barn), so I feel like these three could've had some deeply fascinating, introspective conversations. Were it not for their circumstances, I do genuinely believe they could've been friends -- they tend to share the same basic moral code, as well. And let's face it: they'd probably start a pretty rad book club!

[swimmingcreatortyrant]

Well, let's start 🃏🙌🃏

[paperskin-writtenon]

I baked you some fresh TURN content! Smells like warm eggs.

[rhcenyra]

I pray that you all bear me witness, that I meet my fate like a brave man. 

[gameraboy2]

Lee Majors and Andre the Giant

[chernobog13]

When you lock gazes with your soulmate for the first time.