#main tagging bc im brave and am curious what ppl have to say esp ppl who are like Yes Togami Ouma Komaeda: The Danganronpa Antagonists Yes
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ok i do really hate the danganronpa fanon category of "antagonists" (ie. komaeda, togami, + ouma as a group). in part because its just the wrong term for these characters and it can be confusing whos being referred to, like i saw a post saying like 'danganronpa is wild the antag will tell the protag they want them carnally and just move on no explanation' and i was like ???????????? when does junko say that to naegi?????? tsumugi said something like that????? kamukura????????????????
and my bigger issue with it, is its really hard to not see this as like a direct symptom of people ignoring women characters and over-valuing male characters. i know this accusation gets brought up a lot in fandom spaces, and then it just becomes a circular argument of misogynistic writing leads to fans favouring male characters which reinforces the demand for male focused stories etc etc or ppl being like 'im gay of course im going to have a preference for male/male stuff over things with women', but it really really does feel like women get completely pushed to the side to center two men. using the dr1 characters as an example, its not even like how kirigiri and fukawa are "pushed to the side" as romantic interests so togami and naegi can be together, its over crediting togamis character to be at an "antagonist" level when junko (and mukuro and even sakura if u want to generalize her role as 'the traitor') is Right There. it also isnt lost on me how out of the main three actual antagonists kamukura is included in fanworks/written out the least (though the 'ultimate evil abuser' kamukura vs 'totally innocent' hinata that happens frequently isnt great either...... but like at least hes there vs junko and tsumugi who are forgotten.)
but idk, i know languages changes and a group of ppl being like 'hey to our group this term means this even if is not the original definition' happens all the time. sometimes these shifts are useful, especially for the in-group doing the re-defining, but it can also be confusing and frustrating for the fandom at large when the words have other agreed upon meanings and when women are being ignored/erased
#my posts#komahina#naegami#saiouma#main tagging bc im brave and am curious what ppl have to say esp ppl who are like Yes Togami Ouma Komaeda: The Danganronpa Antagonists Yes#bc im not coming from that perspective at all so i want to know ur thought processes and like how they even ended up grouped like that#also for the record komaedas the only one that if u want to put an antag label on like ur still not correct theyre a deuteragonist first bu#with their roll as a direct foil to hinata theres more of an 'opposing' nature there EVEN THO THEYRE ULTIMATELY STILL WORKING TOWARDS THE#SAME GOALS+IDEALS (for better or worse lol)#and no togami and ouma arent deuteragonists u cant just change this group name to that it would make as much sense as the antag label#also sorry i havent posted in a week and when i do post its just a Rant lmao i will reblog/post more stuff soon!!!
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