#lucia de berk

[moonlitkat]

Friendly reminder to never become an ICU nurse. The chances of being found guilty of mass murder are ridiculously high.

[evidence-based-activism]

feminists are trying to defend Lucy letby the vile woman who killed babies, too bad for you she has been found guilty. https://apple.news/AYaBFIXxAQ1KtwSC2w-84kA

Hello Anon -

I'm going to answer this in parts:

Are feminists trying to defend Lucy Letby?

I searched for any evidence of this and found none. If you have any evidence that this is occurring you'll have to provide sources for it. However, I've searched for news articles, organization statements, and social media posts and found absolutely no evidence of this. (The link you provided is just to a generic news article on the topic. Nothing about a feminist defense on the topic.)

Is anyone trying to defend Lucy Letby?

There are some people saying that a "miscarriage of justice" has taken place. However, they're explicitly indicating that they don't know if Lucy Letby is innocent. They have an issue with the way the prosecution used statistical and scientific evidence, and with the defense's inadequate response to this misuse of evidence.

Essentially, they are saying that - regardless of Letby's innocence or guilt - she received an inadequate defense and should be retried. (This article (archived link) introduces the arguments, although its tone suggests the arguments lack merit.)

I'm not going to go into the problems they've identified (with one exception, which I'll address next), but if you're interested in a breakdown of the issues an article by The Guardian (archived link) and another by The Telegraph (archived link) discuss the identified problems with the case's statistics/science (and some counter-arguments). The first is from a left-leaning source and the second from a right-leaning source, but they essentially address the same information.

One of the primary points behind this argument is that the prosecution misused statistical data. One of the primary advocates is Statistician Richard Gill. An important note about him, is that Letby is not the first person he's made this argument for. From the first article:

Seven years before anyone had heard of Letby, Gill successfully campaigned for the retrial of Dutch nurse Lucia de Berk. De Berk stood trial for serial murder in 2003 and was convicted of four murders and three attempted murders. In 2010, after a campaign led by whistleblowers and statisticians including Gill, the case was sent back to court. De Berk was exonerated; her case is now considered one of the worst miscarriages of justice in Dutch history. (Emphasis added.)

This same issue has apparently arisen frequently enough that the "Royal Statistical Society" wrote and published a report ("Healthcare serial killer or coincidence? Statistical issues in investigation of suspected medical misconduct.") on the topic, which essentially advised people to consult a statistician before using statistics for a criminal case. Neither the prosecution or the defense followed this recommendation.

That doesn't necessarily make these arguments correct ... just because he's been right before doesn't mean he's right this time. There's room for doubt in almost any type of evidence (hence why the juries are asked to consider "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" instead of "absolute certainty in guilt").

All in all, some field experts are indicating they believe the prosecutions evidence was flawed and the defense's response failed to address these flaws in Letby's defense. As a result, they believe Letby should be retried. Notably, they are not suggesting she be immediately exonerated or released.

Importantly, this argument is not based on feminism or Letby being female. It's specifically a scientific/statistical argument. As such, your assertion that "feminists are trying to defend Lucy Letby" is still incorrect.

Bonus: general serial killer statistics.

To try and keep both posts a reasonable length, I have made a separate post about Sex Differences in Serial/Mass Murder.

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Unlucky numbers: Fighting murder convictions that rest on shoddy stats | Science#Unlucky #numbers #Fighting #murder #convictions #rest #shoddy #stats #Science

A version of this story appeared in Science, Vol 379, Issue 6629.Download PDF LEIDEN, THE NETHERLANDS—When a Dutch nurse named Lucia de Berk stood trial for serial murder in 2003, statistician Richard Gill was aware of the case. But he saw no reason to stick his nose into it. De Berk was a pediatric nurse at Juliana Children’s Hospital in The Hague. In 2001, after a baby died while she was on…

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