#lp athy

[dyinggirldied]

The original deal

[sylver-drawer]

Thinking about how despite the various circumstances and my personal gripes about them, all versions of Athy and Jennette had good relationships with eachother.

I despise Lee Jihye’s treatment and view of those around her, but her and Novel!Jennette’s relationship without her internal monologues and strange intentions were genuinely good and strong enough to where everyone knew them to be best friends, and where Lee Jihye unconsciously looks and asks for Jennette when she’s in public. Manhwa Athy and Manhwa Jennette’s sweet relationship is known and said for. But, LP!Athanasia and LP!Jennette also had a strong and pleasant relationship. If Lee Jihye had her own circumstances for not fully reaching out to Novel!Jennette, LP!Jennette did too with all her knowledge of Claude killing her parents and ruining their images in history forever—but at the very least, in comparison to Lee Jihye, LP!Jennette was constantly making sure LP!Athanasia was ok. If LP!Athanasia had suddenly retreated early or had collapsed, she made sure to check up on her—and from Lee Jihye’s observations, with genuine worry and concern. When she hears that Claude went of his own volition and met with Athanasia, she’s of course shocked but then she genuinely expresses joy at the thought of Claude visiting out of worry for her, and is crestfallen when LP!Athanasia so casually responds how she’s used to Claude not caring about her. Before LP!Ijekiel defends LP!Athanasia, he cuts off LP!Jennette’s own protest against her own aunt, before rambling upsetedly of the fact others are accusing LP!Athanasia of faking her illness for attention.

Because of Lee Jihye temporarily taking the place of LP!Athanasia back and forth, it’s difficult interpreting any more of that level of their relationship on LP!Athanasia’s side, but there’s some sort of nuance when at the end of the Lovely Princess Sidestories arc, LP!Athanasia is awake and both Lee Jihye and her watch as Jennette firmly rebels against Roger and the Bureaucrats. Even though LP!Athy is right there in the same room, they blatantly ask LP!Jennette to take up the roles of firstborn. As LP!Jennette rebukes them, praising LP!Athanasia for her skills and experience while restating to Roger how she never wanted to be Empress in the first place, Lee Jihye comments on LP!Athanasia’s unreadable expression before she leaves with the vassals. You could almost interpret this scene as LP!Jennette rising up against the man who raised her, seeing through his intentions, and defying them as they’ve blatantly disrespected Athanasia‘a authority and birthright. More strange nuance between the girls when LP! Athanasia works within the palace, proving her worth to the nobles while LP!Jen takes care of the unconscious emperor. They have a quiet moment in Claude’s bedroom, both girls exhausted, but rather than speaking about Claude first, they inquire about eachother—about how tired the other must be with the other’s worn and pale complexions. It’s small, a private moment, but there’s this unspoken bond or connection between the girls—as if no one else in the world could share this draining moment of exhaustion and anxiety for eachother and for Claude. When I read this scene, I couldn’t help but think that there’s no way they had a bad relationship. Lee Jihye even describes the girls preforming their duties as harmonious without crossing the other’s boundaries. They were two girls, who despite the various circumstances of their pasts, have a relationship that’s unlike the relationships of Lee Jihye-Novel!Jennette and the Athy and Jennette of the manhwa, but equally as strong and trusting in each other.

[shxrry-blossom]

WMMAP HEADCANON

— headcanon that lp!Athanasia loves abandoned places and feels more comfortable in destroyed castles or abandoned compounds. Growing up in a palace that was slowly being destroyed throughout his life, LP!athy developed an interest in other places that were abandoned after a great tragedy such as a massacre.

[yvonneloveposting]

AU where LP!Athy haunts WMMAP!Jennette

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

lp Jennette 🤝wmmap Athy living in a freudian nightmare.

"what if I viewed you as the daughter that could have been mine? what if I treated you like a younger version of the first woman I've ever loved? I am comparing you to a woman you've never met and you don't even know it. I'm comparing you to your mother and you have never known her. When I'm sitting in a room with you there is the ghost of a person without a face appearing behind you who has always taken up precious oxygen in your family home and that person is not your sister.

Your enemy is invincible because they are already dead. Your enemy is invincible because they do not exist. Your enemy is the man in front of you who has dreamed up an impossible ideal and expecting you to meet it.

To survive you have to act like a perfect copy of the person I've lost. To survive you must never become a perfect copy or you will die. It's not enough to be like them. You have to turn into a phantom, a fantasy that only exists inside my mind. Not a girl of flesh and blood, but a fairy, an angel, a princess from a storybook that has come alive.

Listen well, I don't open my heart that easily, so when I do you'll be the only one who can enter. You will have to give me all the love your parents did not. You owe it to me. There is no way out. You do not want to leave. Where would you even go? This is your destiny. You'll have your eternity. I can give you anything except the love you crave so much.

Will you become my heroine? Do you dare to tread the dangerous line? Can you play a double role without breaking? Are you so special you can repeat a script you have never read? Paint a picture with a blindfold on and manage to surpass the original? Will you shatter the image and set its pieces back together correctly without the flaw that made me throw it away? Of course you can, your mother has always been an excellent actress. What was your ancestor if not the greatest necromancer in this world? So go on. It's in your blood after all. Resurrect the dead tonight. The curtain opens. All eyes are on you. And here I am waiting in anticipation, like a schoolboy in a magic show, wanting to be deceived by you."

[bvnga-aprikot]

in a way, Jennette reminds me of the of the phrase "a moth drawn to a flame" with how desperately she clings onto the idea of the Obelias as her 'family'. while i never got to reading the LP side-stories, the way other people describe how she mainly despised Claude because he was the one who killed her 'father' (since in the novel she was not at all related to the Obelian line) and therefore deprived her of her true family really enforces this idea.

the phrase is also interesting in the fact that obviously, the moth will die if it gets closer to the flame. i wonder if her black magic blowups are symbolic of this; Jennette's emotions over her desire of a true family gets to her head and it causes harm to others (particularly Athy and Ijekiel) and herself. she becomes selfish and feels entitled to her feelings, feeling shame for hating her loved ones but still not feel guilt at the same time. i think the departure from her novel counterpart made the circumstances of her original ending different for manhwa!Jennette, she isn't really the same Jennette and having the same exact ending play out when Spoon already made so much changes to her characterization made it not mesh well i guess...

[cant-write-to-save-my-life]

Modern AU kinda thing where Lp!Athy has been reborn and she's a historian and/or archeologist(she could be both tbh, and no, she doesn't remember anything and she doesn't look the same). Korea and the world as we know it doesn't really exist since... well, we are talking about a post-obelia/modern-obelia world.

(as always this will be all over the place, if I start not making sense don't be surprised because GOD THIS IS LONG AND i WROTE THIS IN AN HOUR AND A HALF)

Athanasia/Sia is part of a group where they are trying to find more information regarding the time Jennette appeared until the death of Claude/her death itself, since other researchers have found a surprising lack of information regarding that era of time even thought the small amount of information found often talked about how loved she was by the empire and, allegedly, other surrounding empires, plus how much Claude was said to have loved her.

Not only that, even when trying to use her spouse, Ijekiel, as a way to get more information, this seemed to come to a halt on the Alpheus records when it came to a certain period of time.

To top it of, old diaries and reports sometimes mentioned a third royal family member being alive and on similar age to Jennette, but the name, description or origin of this family member was a mystery.

The Royal Family of Obelia had been no more for a very long time, but the fact that a second mystery in the form of an unknown royal family member, led everyone to believe it could be tied to the disappearance of the Royal Family trademark: The Jeweled Eyes. Of course, this could be tied to the usual explanation that maybe the magic-gene that permitted this peculiar eyes became recessive at some point, but after doing some digging, the jeweled eyes of the royal family started to disappear with Jennette's first grandchild, her first son having 3 children, one of them missing the royal eyes completely, and the children of said child never inheriting this trait as well.

(Yes these people know magic existed at some point in time, but it either doesn't manifest as it did before, making it so 1% of the world population is able to wield it in a level that can't be compared to how it's used in LP/WMMAP since it's very difficult to do so or it just doesn't exist anymore)

This was more of a theory based on investigations made on the family tree, where a new ducal family, directly related to the emperor at that time, never inherited the eyes as confirmed by some salvaged paintings.

All the missing information just made Sia excited, this just meant she and her team had to start using every piece of information and treat it as a potential clue. And thanks to that, they managed to hit a lead to the York household.

The York's had fallen out of nobility some time during Jennette's reign, with reasons unknown, but information in an old diary from a head maid mentioned a woman with the name of Lilian York was the head maid in the Ruby Palace.

It was very hard to find if the York's had any living relatives, but thankfully they did. They were a normal working family, and even thought they knew of what their family once was, they had very clear that everything was in the past. Grandmother of the family was the one who gave them two heavy medium sized boxes with information of their family. The woman said that she was finally giving them to people who will actually do some sense to all the things in said boxes.

As obvious things happen, they learn that Lily was Athy's nanny, and they obviously learn of Athanasia's existence and death.

But also the aftermath.

Lilian's family(don't know who) had decided to keep information regarding her and Athanasia simply to honor Lily's memory at first, but after it was revealed that Athanasia(and Lily by relation) died for nothing since the true culprit was Jennette's aunt, Countess Rosalia, they decided to keep archiving everything for the sake of justice and to never forget.

In the boxes they found the frustration the matriarch was feeling due to the situation, and how they were the ones to renounce to their title and privileges 10 years after everything had happened. Why?

Because they were tired of the circus nobility had created to cater to the, at the time, Princess Jennette de Alger Obelia.

Jennette never really "got over" Athanasias unjust death, but the amount of time she spent mourning was strange and bizarre for the Yorks, the(at the time) Princess was always someone who always showed herself as sentimental and empathetic. But only mourning the unjust death of her sister which she claimed she was close to for a week? Strange. But not as important as what nobility did.

Since it was discovered that Rosalia was the one behind the poisoning, the nobles has decided that whenever Princess Athanasia was mentioned and Princess/Empress Jennette was present, they would fill their mouths with false sentiments of longing, saying how they always knew Athanasia was innocent, that they always viewed her as beautiful even if she didn't have the money to have the dresses of the current season, how they always felt bad whenever she was bullied, how much they wished they were more brave as to defend her and befriend her. How Lilian York was such a brave woman to never backdown even before the emperor, how diligent Lilian was to not leave the abandoned princess, daughter of a dancer, behind and go back to her family.

How great women they both were.

Lies, all of it lies.

But Princess Jennette always appreciated those words, this actions making some noble ladies from count families to become very close to her.

It was sickening.

And for that, after the second prince of the empire was 5 years old, the York family resign from their titles and lands, the now Empress Jenette asked them why, but the heads of the family never gave her a reason.

Between all of the diary entries there were incredibly well preserved portraits. One of Lilian York when she was maybe 15 or 17 years old, and another of Princess Athanasia when she was 11 or 13 years old.

One mystery to take off the list, right? Wrong.

Thanks to the painting of Princess Athanasia, immediately one of those on the team pointed out how the eyes of the princess looked different from those of princess jennette. At first everyone thought it would simply be due to the artist having a different perspective on how they painted the eyes, but after careful examination and comparisons with the portraits of Claude de Alger Obelia, it was confirmed that the eyes of Jennette and her children had a different hue than the other two royals. They didn't look as bright and it seemed that they were even dimmed or were dimming out through time, in some portraits the eyes of the only princess of born of Ijekiel and Jennette, seemed to have simple blue eyes.

With this findings Sia's investigation group was applauded and praised all around. But despite that, Sia was only happy to finally put one of the greatest mysteries of the Obelian Royal family to rest, and provide more information to the other.

For her, it felt as if some dead weight was lifted off her shoulders.

[jeweled-blue-eyes]

Bals des victimes

The bals des victimes allegedly began as part of a rash of merrymaking and balls that broke out as the Terror came to an end. According to one source, they emerged as an idea of youths whose parents and other near relatives had gone to the guillotine, and to whom the revolution had now restored their relatives' confiscated property. Reveling in the return of fortune they established aristocratic, decadent balls open to themselves alone. Those who attended the orgiastic balls reportedly wore mourning clothes or elaborate costumes with crepe armbands signifying mourning. Some accounts have both men and women wearing plain but scanty dress in the wake of the impoverishment of the Revolution, at least until the return of their fortunes at which time ball dress became highly elaborate. Others describe women, in the fashion of Merveilleuses, dressing scandalously in Greco-Roman attire, with their feet bare, in sandals, or adorned only by ribbons, a possible allusion to the fact that women often went barefoot to the guillotine. The style of dress at such a ball was known by some as the "costume à la victime." Women, and by some accounts men too, wore a red ribbon or string around their necks at the point of a guillotine blade's impact. Both men and women attending the balls were said to have worn or cut their hair in a fashion that bared their necks in a manner reflecting the haircut given the victim by the executioner, women often using a comb known as a cadenette to achieve this fashion.

[ultramarine-spirit]

Hello Marie! sorry to bother you

I wanted to ask you about what the relationship was like or what opinion novel!athy had of lp!athy in that side story where they met because from what I remember novel!athy was very upset by the way Claude treated lp!athy and always thought of her first

Hi! Sorry for the late answer ; ;

In the novel, our Athy and LP! Athy only directly interact twice, when Athy is transported to TLP's world and when LP! Athy awakens from her "sleep" (our Athy used a sleeping spell on her lol). The rest of the time, our Athy was pretending to be her, and learning how people treated the original Athanasia in TLP's novel.

Obviously, Athy felt really awful about LP! Athanasia's situation, even more so after living in her shoes for weeks. For me, these are the novel's most painful scenes. When LP! Athy woke up, our Athy told her "with a genuine heart" that she was happy she had woken up again. After that, the two of them (+ LP! Lucas) visit the comatose LP! Claude, where they talk about Claude and Athy's relationship, and LP! Athy asks to see where Diana's remains are. She never had the courage to ask in case "Claude's rage would downpour upon her". Our Athy takes Princess Athanasia to "a cliff where gushes of wind blew from all directions", where Claude scattered Diana's ashes. Princess Athanasia then whispered to Athy that, since Diana was free to go anywhere along with the wind, she would always be with her.

That's a summary of their interactions. I feel like our Athy cared deeply for Princess Athanasia, and was able to get a better understanding of her, past the pity she felt for her after reading TLP's novel.

[the-winters-prince]

I would never ship Lleu and Athy because Athy deserves better than a man who projects his brother on teenagers and pushes them to act like him. But Medraut and Athy? Girl who acts like her dead mom to survive and guy who compensonates for being the least favourite sibling by fucking his parent? Devoured my son insane levels of parental issues. They should fuck and procreate. I want to know what the offspring looks like (blonde blue eyed and highly depressed probably)

[dyinggirldied]

I sometimes think about the scene where Athy overjoyed at hearing Claude had waken up and came rushing to him, no etiquette, only in her sleep gown and messy hair only to realize he had forgotten her. Everything was gone. Their connections, memories, etc. She was back to zero.

She still clutching some hopes until his birthday banquet where he publicly humiliated her in front of all those nobles and foreign delegations. His chilling words denying her, insulting her were reminiscent of the LP!Claude. Here, he was no different from the man who had ordered her past self's death. This situation was no different from that fateful debutante where Jennette was introduced and where Athy's social reputation was effectively gone.

Sometimes i wonder if in another universe would she have made another choice. Where she can no longer hope that Claude's fickle love would save her from his dangerous temperament nature. Where the plot or fate or some mystical higher being was seemingly yanking the story back to its correct course of the Lovely Princess world.

A world where she had to die. Would die.

But not if she killed him first.

[sylver-drawer]

Talking to someone about LP Jennette and I am sick and tired!!!!

What do you mean LP Jennette “ignored Athy’s feelings and neglected her”???? “She stood by and never defended Athy from humiliation and harassment from other nobles”????? “Pushed work and expectations onto Athy inconsiderably”????

LP Jennette did none of those things. She was one of the only people who gave a damn about LP Athy, constantly visiting her and checking up on her, knew that Athy was capable and smart and respected her for it.

But you know who did do these things? SBAPOD ATHY TO SBAPOD JENNETTE! Athy remarks multiple times and acknowledges Jennette’s loneliness and longing for family, but she always internal monologues on never fulfilling those desires and keeping Jennette at arms length while IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH TELLING HER “I love you” AND “I missed you”. Like—that’s definitely leading Jennette on, right? Acknowledging multiple times someone’s love for you while also fully acknowledging you’ll never return that affection, and then giving said person false hope by verbally or physically AFFIRMING THAT AFFECTION HALFHEARTEDLY??? Like. That’s worse than ignoring Jennette’s feelings. That’s straight up acknowledging them and then trampling on them.

In addition, while LP Jen checked up on Athy out of concern when she retreated early from a ball right after she was being harassed by noblewomen (that she didn’t even witness), SBAPOD Athy repeatedly leaves Jennette to ‘fend for herself’ when Jennette is being targeted by noble ladies??? Never taking Jennette’s side when noble ladies straight up accuse Jennette of incest, and selfishly hogging Ijekiel’s attention and burdening him??? And again, while previously internal monologue about how Jennette shyly blushes in regard to her pure love with Ijekiel? Like. Who’s really ‘not defending’ someone from humiliation and harassment. And this also adds to the “pushes expectations onto [her] inconsiderably” claim, because Athy full on says in text that Jennette needs to ‘learn to defend herself’? From incest accusations and targeted remarks?

And that’s not even getting more into the point of “invalidating/being inconsiderate [her] feelings”. In LP when Ijekiel asks Jennette if it’s normal for Athy to unusually apologize for something, Jennette’s response is that it isn’t unusual because of her character that Jennette knows well at this point because of their closeness. She responds based on her own personal experience and connection to LP Athy’s personality and feelings that Ijekiel is not familiar with. Meanwhile in the novel’s main story, while romanticizing Jennette’s love for Ijekiel, she simultaneously compares Jennette’s long and accumulated feelings for him to the feeling of getting princess treatment from a servant?

Everything bad I’ve heard about Novel Jennette and her LP Counterpart, I’ve somehow found in Novel Athy’s character instead, and no one talks about this. This has to mean something, right? Or is this another case of raging misogyny literally changing how readers perceive a story and its characters.

[shxrry-blossom]

What must I do for your love? Will you love me if I'm more like Jennette? If I'm, will you say my name with affection as you do hers... and look upon me with warmth in your gaze? Will you embrace me in your arms and promise to never cast me away?

[yvonneloveposting]

Hot take! Claude should not be allowed near children! At least until he's like taken a parenting course and also learned basic human compassion! And maybe not even then! Because the amount of times athy both could've and should've suffered horrible injuries around him and/or died is insane! Literally! Bestie you are a danger to everyone around you! Just go to fantasy Barnes and Noble! It ain't that hard!

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

It's atypical how Athy doesn't avoid places, people or objects that reminded her of her trauma. Spoon could have shown something simple like Athy hating the pattern of the cup in which lp Jennette's poison might have been served in and refusing to drink from it. She doesn't avoid certain knights that may have played a part in her arrest or shows a reluctance to work with the courtiers who turned on her when she was suspected of having poisoned the lovely princess. The attempt to remove these people from a position of power and give it to those who were neutral or in doubt about lp Athy's guilt was never made while Athy stood high in Claude's favor. It never occured to her to ask Claude for anything but material goods even though it's allies she is in desperate need of. Athy is keeping those who actually love her at arm lenghts and surrounds herself with people who's affection and loyalities are unreliable. She's getting along with several noble girls who must have bullied Jennette or talked behind lp Athy's back in her past life. Athy never really questioned their sincerity or suspected ulterior motives even though she has every reason to do so. It's as if with the change of the heroine the wmmap universe was equipped with a new set of extras to make everything easier for her.

[bvnga-aprikot]

the demons always possess me whenever i do things outside of schoolwork why can’t they do so while i NEED to be productive….

so anyways here are more headcanons i made based on my readings of the novel. part of me thinks i should’ve made Jennette much shorter for the more typical-shoujo-protagonist feeling but the other part of me said, “Minako and Usagi parallels NOW” so Athy’s the shortest like Usagi heheh. (technically though Minako is not as tall so i think i am right in making Nettie way too tall.)

also tried referencing Sonnet’s way of drawing Ijekiel in my mind since the way Spoon draws him is so different from how he’s described in the novel. meanwhile Lucas doesn’t have much descriptors for hair length so i opted for a more Howl-like hairstyle for him.

one day i will get to the adults but not now..