#lp athy

[dyinggirldied]

The original deal

[shxrry-blossom]

WMMAP HEADCANON

— headcanon that lp!Athanasia loves abandoned places and feels more comfortable in destroyed castles or abandoned compounds. Growing up in a palace that was slowly being destroyed throughout his life, LP!athy developed an interest in other places that were abandoned after a great tragedy such as a massacre.

[yvonneloveposting]

AU where LP!Athy haunts WMMAP!Jennette

[jeweled-green-eyes]

maid athy and lady jennette

[sylver-drawer]

Talking to someone about LP Jennette and I am sick and tired!!!!

What do you mean LP Jennette “ignored Athy’s feelings and neglected her”???? “She stood by and never defended Athy from humiliation and harassment from other nobles”????? “Pushed work and expectations onto Athy inconsiderably”????

LP Jennette did none of those things. She was one of the only people who gave a damn about LP Athy, constantly visiting her and checking up on her, knew that Athy was capable and smart and respected her for it.

But you know who did do these things? SBAPOD ATHY TO SBAPOD JENNETTE! Athy remarks multiple times and acknowledges Jennette’s loneliness and longing for family, but she always internal monologues on never fulfilling those desires and keeping Jennette at arms length while IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH TELLING HER “I love you” AND “I missed you”. Like—that’s definitely leading Jennette on, right? Acknowledging multiple times someone’s love for you while also fully acknowledging you’ll never return that affection, and then giving said person false hope by verbally or physically AFFIRMING THAT AFFECTION HALFHEARTEDLY??? Like. That’s worse than ignoring Jennette’s feelings. That’s straight up acknowledging them and then trampling on them.

In addition, while LP Jen checked up on Athy out of concern when she retreated early from a ball right after she was being harassed by noblewomen (that she didn’t even witness), SBAPOD Athy repeatedly leaves Jennette to ‘fend for herself’ when Jennette is being targeted by noble ladies??? Never taking Jennette’s side when noble ladies straight up accuse Jennette of incest, and selfishly hogging Ijekiel’s attention and burdening him??? And again, while previously internal monologue about how Jennette shyly blushes in regard to her pure love with Ijekiel? Like. Who’s really ‘not defending’ someone from humiliation and harassment. And this also adds to the “pushes expectations onto [her] inconsiderably” claim, because Athy full on says in text that Jennette needs to ‘learn to defend herself’? From incest accusations and targeted remarks?

And that’s not even getting more into the point of “invalidating/being inconsiderate [her] feelings”. In LP when Ijekiel asks Jennette if it’s normal for Athy to unusually apologize for something, Jennette’s response is that it isn’t unusual because of her character that Jennette knows well at this point because of their closeness. She responds based on her own personal experience and connection to LP Athy’s personality and feelings that Ijekiel is not familiar with. Meanwhile in the novel’s main story, while romanticizing Jennette’s love for Ijekiel, she simultaneously compares Jennette’s long and accumulated feelings for him to the feeling of getting princess treatment from a servant?

Everything bad I’ve heard about Novel Jennette and her LP Counterpart, I’ve somehow found in Novel Athy’s character instead, and no one talks about this. This has to mean something, right? Or is this another case of raging misogyny literally changing how readers perceive a story and its characters.

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

@scratchface It's in the text though. In his own words he admits he has been projecting Diana onto Athy the whole time to the point where he had forgotten they were different people. This goes beyond recognizing your daughter resembles her mother. Athy's survival literally depended on how well she could imitate her mother allowing Claude to deceive himself for a time. In the earlier chapters she noticed that when she acts like a scared child, like lp Athy, Claude becomes extremely disdainful and has a look on his face as if he were considering to kill her. He hated it when she threatened to break that fantasy.

you might want to read this post on the accidental pseudoincestuous framing in wmmap...or perhaps not cause I feel like you cannot handle the topic.

[brotherslayer]

Lucas's dislike for Jennette would be interesting to explore if the reason wasn't because she was the second female lead but because she was a child that was created non consensually with mana stolen from him when he was asleep by the man he rejected (as in metaphorical rape). His hatred for her would be rooted in self hatred. Jennette is something powerful and terrifying, something that should be feared and rejected by society (just like him), both were conceived unnaturally from magic (manhwa lucas is implied to have been sired by the world tree), Jennette was raised by a white haired man who refused to become her family and never made her feel like she belonged (just like him and Gisil), they formed an attachment to a father figure (Caelum, Claude), possibly felt jealousy towards the true child of the father figure (Aeternitas, Athy) and ruined their parent/child relationship.

The difference is that Jennette still clings stubbornly onto her dream of a family, never embraced her "true" nature or put herself above those that were less powerful than her. And this must be incomprehensible to Lucas. Lucas was rejected by the people he loved because of his magic. He looks down on those with less mana than him because he might've begun to tell himself the opinion of those weaker than him didn't matter. They were ants in comparision to him who was basically a demi-god. It would be a nice parallel if Jennette and Lucas both tried to find comfort in a narrative they have constructed for themselves. They are forced into the roles of the lovely princess and wizard hermit respectively through external factors. The difference is that Jennette broke out of her role first in this life.

[ultramarine-spirit]

Hello Marie! sorry to bother you

I wanted to ask you about what the relationship was like or what opinion novel!athy had of lp!athy in that side story where they met because from what I remember novel!athy was very upset by the way Claude treated lp!athy and always thought of her first

Hi! Sorry for the late answer ; ;

In the novel, our Athy and LP! Athy only directly interact twice, when Athy is transported to TLP's world and when LP! Athy awakens from her "sleep" (our Athy used a sleeping spell on her lol). The rest of the time, our Athy was pretending to be her, and learning how people treated the original Athanasia in TLP's novel.

Obviously, Athy felt really awful about LP! Athanasia's situation, even more so after living in her shoes for weeks. For me, these are the novel's most painful scenes. When LP! Athy woke up, our Athy told her "with a genuine heart" that she was happy she had woken up again. After that, the two of them (+ LP! Lucas) visit the comatose LP! Claude, where they talk about Claude and Athy's relationship, and LP! Athy asks to see where Diana's remains are. She never had the courage to ask in case "Claude's rage would downpour upon her". Our Athy takes Princess Athanasia to "a cliff where gushes of wind blew from all directions", where Claude scattered Diana's ashes. Princess Athanasia then whispered to Athy that, since Diana was free to go anywhere along with the wind, she would always be with her.

That's a summary of their interactions. I feel like our Athy cared deeply for Princess Athanasia, and was able to get a better understanding of her, past the pity she felt for her after reading TLP's novel.

[carlachen]

看到某個姿勢模板，覺得太適合小說外傳Lucas&Athy&Lucas了 

參考模板在下方

https://twitter.com/ya3_3ya/status/1561323417588346880?s=20&t=epo0p2ZU1hiaI-DSOO9SHA

[myearts-uwu]

Thinking about Athy x my Siodonnan baker boy whose name I still haven’t chosen right now.

[dyinggirldied]

I sometimes think about the scene where Athy overjoyed at hearing Claude had waken up and came rushing to him, no etiquette, only in her sleep gown and messy hair only to realize he had forgotten her. Everything was gone. Their connections, memories, etc. She was back to zero.

She still clutching some hopes until his birthday banquet where he publicly humiliated her in front of all those nobles and foreign delegations. His chilling words denying her, insulting her were reminiscent of the LP!Claude. Here, he was no different from the man who had ordered her past self's death. This situation was no different from that fateful debutante where Jennette was introduced and where Athy's social reputation was effectively gone.

Sometimes i wonder if in another universe would she have made another choice. Where she can no longer hope that Claude's fickle love would save her from his dangerous temperament nature. Where the plot or fate or some mystical higher being was seemingly yanking the story back to its correct course of the Lovely Princess world.

A world where she had to die. Would die.

But not if she killed him first.

[shxrry-blossom]

What must I do for your love? Will you love me if I'm more like Jennette? If I'm, will you say my name with affection as you do hers... and look upon me with warmth in your gaze? Will you embrace me in your arms and promise to never cast me away?

[yvonneloveposting]

Hot take! Claude should not be allowed near children! At least until he's like taken a parenting course and also learned basic human compassion! And maybe not even then! Because the amount of times athy both could've and should've suffered horrible injuries around him and/or died is insane! Literally! Bestie you are a danger to everyone around you! Just go to fantasy Barnes and Noble! It ain't that hard!

[bottleblondefeelingconned]

'I almost do not exist now and I know it; God knows what lives in me in place of me.'

Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Idiot

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

It's atypical how Athy doesn't avoid places, people or objects that reminded her of her trauma. Spoon could have shown something simple like Athy hating the pattern of the cup in which lp Jennette's poison might have been served in and refusing to drink from it. She doesn't avoid certain knights that may have played a part in her arrest or shows a reluctance to work with the courtiers who turned on her when she was suspected of having poisoned the lovely princess. The attempt to remove these people from a position of power and give it to those who were neutral or in doubt about lp Athy's guilt was never made while Athy stood high in Claude's favor. It never occured to her to ask Claude for anything but material goods even though it's allies she is in desperate need of. Athy is keeping those who actually love her at arm lenghts and surrounds herself with people who's affection and loyalities are unreliable. She's getting along with several noble girls who must have bullied Jennette or talked behind lp Athy's back in her past life. Athy never really questioned their sincerity or suspected ulterior motives even though she has every reason to do so. It's as if with the change of the heroine the wmmap universe was equipped with a new set of extras to make everything easier for her.

[brotherslayer]

Bals des victimes

The bals des victimes allegedly began as part of a rash of merrymaking and balls that broke out as the Terror came to an end. According to one source, they emerged as an idea of youths whose parents and other near relatives had gone to the guillotine, and to whom the revolution had now restored their relatives' confiscated property. Reveling in the return of fortune they established aristocratic, decadent balls open to themselves alone. Those who attended the orgiastic balls reportedly wore mourning clothes or elaborate costumes with crepe armbands signifying mourning. Some accounts have both men and women wearing plain but scanty dress in the wake of the impoverishment of the Revolution, at least until the return of their fortunes at which time ball dress became highly elaborate. Others describe women, in the fashion of Merveilleuses, dressing scandalously in Greco-Roman attire, with their feet bare, in sandals, or adorned only by ribbons, a possible allusion to the fact that women often went barefoot to the guillotine. The style of dress at such a ball was known by some as the "costume à la victime." Women, and by some accounts men too, wore a red ribbon or string around their necks at the point of a guillotine blade's impact. Both men and women attending the balls were said to have worn or cut their hair in a fashion that bared their necks in a manner reflecting the haircut given the victim by the executioner, women often using a comb known as a cadenette to achieve this fashion.