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Wer is grumpy jk! We badly need it đ«đ
summary: you and jungkook are getting closer, moving forward â but to where, exactly? what does that entail for your relationship?Â
w/c: 3.3k
note: this is for all the girlies who asked for part 2 for this drabble. nothing but fluff in here ): ive been thinking abt college jk lately and i lowkey like this grumpy!jk guy⊠basically this takes place two months after the first drabble u may read this amm for grumpy!jk for a brief bg on what their relationship has become before u go read this parr. anyway the ending is a bit diabolical and im saying sorry in advance
also pls listen to come here by kath bloom, its literally so them đźâđšđ
Itâs almost natural the way Jungkook immediately slings his backpack on one shoulder, heads straight out of the lecture hall, and starts the almost ten-minute walk from his department building to yours the moment his last class for the day was dismissed.Â
He waits outside by the hallway along the lecture room, scrolling through his phone mindlessly, knowing that any minute now youâll be coming out of the door.Â
And just as a slew of studentsâ chattering becomes louder, their heavy footsteps coming out from the hall, Jungkook instantly spots you; talking to a friend animatedly â Joy, maybe? â before you look to the other side and finally see him.Â
âJungkook!â You exclaim with excitement, smiling up at him and even doing a little wave. Jungkook watches as you turn to your friend. âSorry, I gotta go. Zoom meeting at five, right?â He hears you say before she nods, bidding your goodbyes to each other before she goes in the opposite direction while you saunter towards him with that usual dashing grin on your face.Â
Jungkook meets you halfway, lips curling up slightly at your enthusiastic greeting. Even more so when you donât fight off the way he goes for your tote bag, taking it off your shoulder and wearing it on his own, the weight not adding that much to his own bag perched on his back.Â
He remembers the first time he tried to do it (awkwardly, might he add), and you vehemently refused. But Jungkook can be persistent sometimes when he wants to, and eventually you gave up trying to resist.
Currently, as you walk along the hallway out of your building, standing close together, Jungkook tries not to think too much about how easy this feels. Like itâs normal the way you immediately interlock your arm around his own, skipping a little bit upon your walk as you begin speaking.
âYou really did cut your hair.â You marvel at him when he looks down at you. And he canât help it; the blood rushing to his cheeks and certainly on his ears.Â
âI sent you a picture.â He simply says. It was yesterday. He originally went to his barber for just a trim but he remembers you saying something about a particular actorâs haircut⊠and look, itâs not like he was trying to look like that man but it may have influenced the decision a little bitâŠÂ
Anyway, he thinks it looks okay on him. He trusts his barber and Hoseok said it suits him. From your response, you also said it looks nice.Â
And you tell him so. âI like it! You look so good. Especially with this frame!â You point to his eyeglasses, smiling up at him. âI was thinking you were just sending me a random picture last night.âÂ
Jungkook chuckles. âI wasn't, and uh, thank you.â
âYou're welcome. Anyway,â you say, âDid you wait for long earlier? Sorry âbout that. Prof. Shin had to extend a little bit âcause there were a lot of questions about our new project.âÂ
âYou have a new project?â
âYeah, but nothing really heavy. Just a hotel lobby interior design. We got a week and itâs a paired task thing, thatâs why you saw me with Joy earlierââ
He sees a flock of students ahead huddling by your side of the pathwalk, and because you have a tendency to not really pay that much attention to your surroundings, he takes you by the waist slightly to avoid bumping with them, causing you to stumble closer to him.Â
You crane your neck to look behind you for a moment, gaze falling back up to Jungkook with widened eyes. âSorry.â you say with a jutted lip and a little frown.Â
âItâs okay.â Jungkook says with a reassuring smile. He means it. He likes being close like this and if you donât watch your surroundings, heâll just do it for you. He doesnât mind.Â
You grin. âAnyway⊠I was saying, itâs a hotel interior. But! The thing is, itâs a themed hotel, which Iâm really excited about âcause Iâm tired of designing contemporary, luxury ones. They always tend to be so redundant.âÂ
Jungkook nods. âI think so too. Whatâs the themed hotel about?âÂ
âHave you heard of a film called Metropolis?â He shakes his head. You nod at that. âWell, yeah, me neither. At least a week ago. Prof gave it to us as an assignment and itâs a silent film from the â20s. A sci-fi tale, so very futuristic â at least for that time. So thatâs the theme of the hotel, right, and Joy and I immediately thought of art deco.âÂ
Jungkook intently listens as you go on about your initial ideas, and he doesnât even have to worry about the terms he doesnât understand because you always take time to explain it to him in laymanâs. Itâs funny, really, because ever since heâs learned that you study interior design and started to talk to him about it, he found himself taking interest in it as well. Two months ago, he couldn't have given a single care about a couple named Charles and Ray Eames and their weird chair called La Chaise, but here he is, anyway.
Maybe itâs because of the way you so passionately talk about it. Your zeal oozes out so much when it comes up as the topic of conversation, and thereâs always been something about you that pulls people right in. And Jungkookâs at peace with himself now that heâs just one of those people.Â
Heâs willing to be pulled right in, anyway. You donât exactly make it hard to.Â
And Jungkook finds that the newfound dynamic between you two isnât⊠so bad. He finds excitement at the prospect of seeing you after his classes are concluded, going to Fro-yo for a quick snack because youâre obsessed with it, and studying together at his place later in the day.
A lot of people would say heâs making up for all the times heâs ignored you. The times when he pretended to not care about you. The times when he was just unprovokedly mean and treated you the way he regrets now. And sure, it may have started that way. Ever since your Environmental Science project was finished and the term was over, Jungkook started to feel like he couldnât go back to the life where you werenât within his perimeter. Couldnât imagine you both being back to â practically â regular strangers, so he just⊠opened up to you more.
He shares his own stories now. Tells you about his day after you do so, and invites you to Fro-yo and other cafes and restaurants around campus whenever your schedules align.Â
And maybe at first it was, indeed, because he was trying to make up for his past behavior â but that may have only been what he convinced himself of for the first few weeks. When the week stretched into months and the months suddenly involved you doing sleepovers at his place whenever his roommate, Hoseok, is not around, Jungkook is starting to question himself if this is all still about simply making it up to you.Â
Because frankly, heâs starting to feel like it's a little more than that.
Heâs not just buying you frozen yogurt and helping you with any assignment (that requires his silly and minuscule math and science expertise) and letting you borrow and keep his hoodies and shirts whenever you sleep over because heâs trying to make up for the past â heâs doing all of these because he genuinely enjoys your company and would like to do more for you⊠with you⊠to you⊠and just⊠just more.Â
He wants more with you.Â
And every single day is a daunting battle for his internal mullings.Â
Because he knows heâs been stupid all this time not to realize right away that heâs got romantic feelings for you. That his confusion when it comes to you didn't come from the reason that you were extremely extroverted and had way too much energy â it was that those things made him like you and his little heart and brain couldnât comprehend any of it the way he can easily wrap his head around math equations and concepts.
But he keeps himself on the sidelines. Thinks about keeping himself there until heâs sure of what you truly think about.Â
Youâre always nice to him. But youâre kind of nice to everybody⊠so that gets him a little twisted.
On Monday, when you were supposed to hang out â when you usually sleep over at his place, you bailed on him to study with Jae, as per Taehyung's words, your mutual friend.
He just canât tell if the way you treat him is different to the way you treat everyone else, and thatâs whatâs been on his mind lately.Â
âOh, Kookie,â you say as soon as Jungkook takes out his keys, going for his keyfob when you arrive at the parking area. He looks at you in question, completely ignoring the way his heart flutters a little at the nickname. He kind of hates it, thinks it's too childish when other people call him that â but with you it sounds so much like an endearment, so he doesn't protest. You press your lips into a thin line before you say, âI canât go to Fro-yo today. Joy and I agreed to have a zoom meeting later to start conceptualizing.âÂ
âOh,â Jungkook blinks. âRain check?âÂ
You pout. âYeah.âÂ
âYou can do it at my place? Hoseokâs doing an all-nighter with his study group, so he wonât be there âtil the morning.â
âBut I didnât bring my laptop today.â
With furrowed brows, Jungkook steps closer to you. âItâs alright. We can drive to your place, get your laptop then go to mine,â he smiles. âSleepover?âÂ
Jungkook doesnât want to toot his own horn but he may have seen your face light up at that. But it comes off easily and he begins to worry.
âI want to, but I donât want to impose.â You say.Â
Instantly, Jungkookâs forehead creases. âYou wonât be imposing.â When he sees that youâre about to decline again, he lets out a, âPlease?âÂ
At that, you stop. You stare at him for a moment.Â
âUhâŠâ you trail off. âYou sure? Are you not busy tonight?â
He shakes his head. âIâll probably start on an assignment so we can be both busyââ you nudge his arm at that, laughing. ââ but other than that, no. Iâll cook us something. Or do you want to get take-out instead?âÂ
âIâd really, really appreciate your black bean noodles tonight.â You muse, looking at him like he holds the stars in the sky. With you gazing up at him like that, how can he say no?
âI think we have the ingredients in the fridge. Black bean noodles it is, then.â Jungkook says before youâre muffling your own squeal in your excitement, saying your little delighted âthank youâ when Jungkook ushers you in the passenger seat after opening it for you.Â
He rounds the car before he settles on his side, and when he starts the engine, he canât help but smile slightly at the way you lean comfortably on your seat, as if youâre so used to being in his car â which you are.
And Jungkook finds he likes that. He likes you that way; being used to being around him.Â
âYouâre done?â Jungkook looks up from his computer, seeing you doing some arm stretches and leaning into his gaming chair to do it on your neck as well.Â
âYep.âÂ
âThen come here already.â He shuts his laptop close, places it on the bedside table, and pats the space on the mattress next to him.Â
Itâs nearly 10pm and your zoom meeting with Joy went for nearly 4 hours. You got on it immediately after you two ate your dinner, and like clockwork, asked to borrow one of Jungkookâs shirts because your top was getting a little too uncomfortable on your body. Youâve both already showered â separately, of course â and thatâs one of the many things that Jungkook smiles about when he enters his bathroom sometimes. Because the fact that you shower in his bathroom means your essentials are slowly making a space for themselves in his own place; the yellow cup holder of your toothbrush sits next to his blue one, and a bottle of your moisturizer is also in his lavatory cabinet.Â
ââM so tiredâ You let yourself fall on the mattress, bouncing a little on it face down, sprawling across the bed like some starfish, your other hand landing on Jungkookâs abdomen.Â
âMeeting went well?â Jungkook asks, and heâs a little disappointed when you remove an arm on him, but thatâs okay, because soon youâre leaning sidewards to properly look at him and it makes him smile to see you so cozy like this. Barefaced and in his shirt.Â
âYeah, we got some work done,â You say. Jungkook watches as you try to get comfortable on your side of the bed. âI think Iâm sleepy now.âÂ
âYeah?â He follows after you, and he doesnât hide his huge smile when you go and turn your back to him immediately after he slides his arm under your neck, spooning you from behind. Snuggling closer to him, Jungkook wraps his other arm around your waist and lets out a contented sigh against the back of your head. âMy first class is at one thirty pm tomorrow.âÂ
âI have one at eight am. Then the next one is at ten.âÂ
âTough.âÂ
âI know⊠I wish I didnât enlist in morning classes.âÂ
He chuckles, closing his eyes as he starts to feel that familiar lull of sleep dancing behind his eyes. But truth be told, he doesnât want to give into that just yet.
âYou were with Jae on Monday?â He asks, carefully treading through the subject. Itâs Thursday now. It's not like Jungkookâs a jealous guy⊠it just kind of threw him off a little, because you didnât tell him you were with Jae.Â
âUh⊠yeah?â Jungkook feels you freezing in his arms. âHowâd you know?âÂ
âTaehyung told me.âÂ
âOh.â He can practically hear the wince. âHe has such a big mouth.â You say drily.Â
That earns you a laugh from Jungkook. But he decides to take down the jokes for a more honest and open conversation with you tonight.Â
âWhy didnât you tell me?â Itâs not accusatory. Itâs soft and gentle, the way he asks it, with his thumb rubbing the exposed skin of your hip due to the hem of your â his â shirt riding up.Â
Your answer takes awhile.Â
âI was⊠getting help with estimates.âÂ
â... Okay,â Jungkook tightens his hold around you, growing confused. âBut Iâm really good with estimates. I couldâve helped you.â It was easy math for him. And you never shied away from asking him for help before⊠why now?
âWell, he offered.âÂ
Jungkookâs brows crease deeper. âThatâs notâŠ" he trails off, then continues, "You know you can ask me for anything, right? Jaeâs not even on the dean's list. Howâd you know heâs teaching you the right stuff?â Â
Silence hangs in the air before Jungkook hears your laughter. Shuffling in his arms, Jungkook loosens his hold around you to let you turn to him. When he sees your face, there's a huge grin on it.
âHeâs not even on the deanâs list?â You sound intrigued.
Jungkook assumed you were curiously speaking, and so he nods, looking into your eyes seriously. âHe isnât. Look, Iâm not sayingââ when he notices your smile only getting wider by the second, he realizes youâre just trying to fuck with him, so Jungkook cuts himself off, letting out a sigh. âIâm sorry. I sound like an asshole.â
You scoot closer until both the front of your bodies are stuck. Jungkook tries not to think too much whether youâre wearing a bra underneath his shirt or not.Â
You shake your head. âNot really. I believe youâre way smarter than him.âÂ
âThen why come to him and not me?âÂ
You stare at him for a moment, then you let out a heavy breath. âI just feel like youâre doing so many things for me nowadays. You were also really busy on Mondayâ donât deny itââ you say before he opens his mouth to oppose that. He shuts his lips close, listening to you go on instead. ââ and I was just being considerate. Jae offered because we saw and sat next to each other at the library, and I didnât tell you because I didnât want to disturb you.âÂ
Jungkook blinks, processing your words. After a pregnant pause, he slowly nods, still dumbstruck.Â
âAh⊠okay. I understand.â he says, embarrassment slowly filling his system.Â
You smile at him. Playfully. âSorry for asking help from someone whoâs not on the deanâs list.â Jungkook drops his expression into a poker face at that, which makes you laugh even more. You nibble on your bottom lip before you stretch your hand to his cheek and pinch it. He doesnât bother dodging your hand. With a giggle, you say, âSorry, sorry. That was just so funny. Youâre so funny without even trying sometimes, you know?âÂ
âNot really.â Jungkook says and you can tell the tell-tale signs of his grumpiness starting to kick in.
What he doesnât expect is the way you suddenly squeal and launch yourself on top of him, causing him to lie fully on his back with you sprawled all over his body, hugging him tight and burying your face in his chest.Â
âYouâre so cuddly and warm. Can we stay like this for awhile?â You break away from his chest and look at him from a low angle.Â
Jungkook meets your gaze.Â
Sure, youâve been cuddling (platonically) all these past few months â but they never went to this length. And heâs not sure what the difference is, anyway â just that youâre much closer like this and Jungkook can feel everything. Still, that doesnât deter him from wrapping his arms around your waist, slightly locking you in the position. Quite frankly, he doesnât even want you to move.Â
âAlright.â Is his simple answer. Not like he needed to think about it.
âIâll sleep now, okay?â But you donât wait for his response before you lay on his chest again with your cheek pressed on his hoodie.
Because the moment just feels right somehow, Jungkook lets his hand wander on your head. Then slowly, he lets his fingers comb through the strands of your hair, tentatively at first, lest you didnât want him touching you or something like that â but once he hears a sound akin to a purr coming from you, he continues and finds himself getting comforted by the action as well.Â
âThe Jae thing really bothered you?â You ask suddenly, not breaking away from the position youâve assumed on top of his body. But your words are slightly slurred in the haze of sleep.
Jungkook hums. âYes.âÂ
âSorry for not telling you myself.âÂ
âItâs okay,â Jungkook reassures you. His gaze falls to the ceiling, hand still caressing your hair. The surface is empty, and thereâs not really much going on. Meanwhile, in your own bedroom, you have those glow in the dark star stickers pasted on your white ceiling. Heâs never slept over there, but he thinks it would be nice to lay under your makeshift galaxy with your homely scent surrounding the two of you. âAre you not gonna ask why I was bothered?â He says after a beat.Â
âI was gonna. But I think I know.â You answer, and Jungkook doesnât expect that one bit.
He stops his ministrations on your hair, and itâs obvious that youâre about to question it when you suddenly peel your face away from his chest again.Â
When you do, Jungkook meets your gaze and with a leveled tone, he asks the question heâs been mulling about for the past two months.
â__, what are we?âÂ
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fluff prompt #14: "oh, so now we're holding hands?"
wonwoo didnât know what he did wrong.
one moment, everything was fine. the next, you were cold, sharp replies replacing your usual warmth, and any attempt he made to talk to you was met with an annoyed glare. you werenât outright ignoring him, but you might as well at this point.
so he did what any reasonable person would do: he followed you around and tried to make you laugh, even if it meant annoying you further. but no matter how much he teased or tried to catch your attention, you stayed firmly in your icy bubble, refusing to give him an inch.
after dinner with the rest of the boys, he thought youâd leave the moment the dishes were cleared. instead, you lingered in the living room, scrolling on your phone while pretending he wasnât there.
thats when the idea came to him; he quickly pulled his phone out, texting jeonghan.
"let's watch a horror movie, im in the mood for it." jeonghan declared out loud. you didnât object & wonwoo could only count that as a silent win.
wonwoo should feel bad, he really should, because he knows scary movies werenât your thing, but he doesnt feel any remorse or guilt. so here you were, sitting stiffly on the couch beside him, your arms crossed, your gaze fixed stubbornly on the screen.
he tried not to smile, he really tried.
âyou know, if youâre still mad at me, you can just say so,â he whispered as the opening credits rolled.
you didnât even spare him a glance. âiâm not mad.â
âright,â he said, dragging out the word. âyouâre just giving me the cold shoulder for fun.â
âwonwoo.â your tone was a warning, but it only made him grin wider.
âokay, okay,â he said, holding his hands up in surrender. but as the movie started and the eerie soundtrack filled the room, he couldnât resist stealing glances at you, waiting for the moment youâd crack.
it didnât take long.
the first jumpscare made you flinch. by the third, you were gripping the edge of the couch cushion so tightly that your knuckles turned white.
and then came the scene. the one with the flickering lights and the slow, suspenseful build-up that everyone knew would end in something terrible.
you tensed beside him, this is it, wonwoo thinks. your breath hitching as the music swelled. and just as the shadow moved on screen, you let out a startled yelp; one hand moving to grab at his biceps, hiding your face behind it and the other subconsciously intertwines with his fingers, clutching it tightly
he blinked, startled by the yelp you let out even though he expected it, and then, a slow, triumphant smile took over his face.
âoh?â his voice was soft, teasing. âso now weâre holding hands?â
your head snapped up, your eyes wide with realization. âiâi wasnâtââ you stammered, trying to pull your hand away, but his grip tightened, keeping your fingers firmly intertwined with his.
âuh-uh,â he said, his tone light but his hold steady. âyou canât just grab my hand and then let go like that. thatâs rude, you know.â
âwonwoo,â you said, your cheeks burning as you tried to tug your hand free again. âlet go.â
âno,â he replied, his thumb brushing casually over your knuckles. âbesides, youâre still scared, right? so whatâs the harm in holding on a little longer?â
âiâm not scared,â you shot back, though the tremble in your voice betrayed you.
âsure,â he said, clearly unconvinced. âtotally fearless. thatâs why youâre clinging to me like your life depends on it.â
âi am not clinging,â you hissed, glaring at him even as your face grew hotter.
he chuckled, the sound low and warm, and leaned in just slightly. âyouâre cute when youâre flustered, you know that?â
âiâm not flustered,â you muttered, looking anywhere but at him. âand iâm still mad at you, by the way.â a small pout makes its way to your face.
âreally?â he asked, his voice softening as he tilted his head. âbecause youâre not acting very mad right now.â
âi am,â you insisted, though your resolve was quickly crumbling under the weight of his teasing gaze and the warmth of his hand in yours.
âmhmm,â he hummed, his smile turning fond as he looked at you. âwell, just so you know, iâm not letting go until youâre not mad anymore.â
your eyes darted to your joined hands, your heart racing as you registered the sincerity in his voice beneath the teasing.
âiâm not mad,â you admitted quietly, your voice barely above a whisper.
âoh?â he said, his grin widening. âso does that mean youâre holding my hand because you want to now?â
"I'm not holding your hand, you're holding mine!" you argued, your cheeks burning as you tried to pull away one last time.
but wonwoo didnât budge. instead, he laced his fingers fully with yours, his grip firm but gentle.
âyou should know,â he said softly, his teasing edge fading as he looked at you, âif you hold my hand so tight like this, iâm never letting go.â
your breath hitched, and for a moment, all you could do was stare at him, his words settling into the space between you like a promise.
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okay so very long thinkpiece about meljay and jayce' treatment of mel / the writers treatment of mel and how i think that all things considered she hasnt really won as much as we think she did
the thing about this that makes me so mad or rather sad (both, actually) is that we learn in season 1 how mel was brought up, that she didn't get to be soft and kind, that her surroundings were hard and rough just like her mother was, that love isn't a thing she knows like that especially not in relation to vulnerability. now if you think about media in general there is a pattern we know. the black woman is always the strong woman, the independent woman, the woman who doesnt get to be vulnerable bc of the first two points. so here comes this man she's trying to use not just for her own endeavors but for the good of piltover, clearly having a different mindset than her mother, and he cracks her open just like that. he's vulnerable with her and he lets her be vulnerable with him and it allows this woman this kind of vulnerability that she was never allowed to feel. she feels and she loves and there is someone who holds her and looks out for her when things go bad. he is his first thought after the bombing and hes so loving and endearing unlike her mother who is concerned, of course, but straight back to business too. and oh what a lovely thing that was to watch as a black woman who to this day still doesn't get to see this as often as we really should
so mel gets to experience something she hasnt before and you can tell it means something to her because when she gets back in act 3 the first reaction to him is an excited, hopeful one.
this is the man she cares deeply for and it is also the man who shes comforted before many times. something she needs in those very confusing times too. something she might be looking out for. something she might hope to get herself. some comforting after what shes been through for months. someone to share what is going on with her and how confusing it is to find out all those lies and secrets about herself.
until she notices how changed he is, how different he looks, so instantly she is worried. of course! who wouldnt be! she very likely didnt even know he was missing since its the first time we see her back in the city so she must've assumed he has been here and well for the whole time being (does she even know how long its been?) but it isnt fine as we know. she puts herself second! immediately! (and rewatching that scene now it actually makes me mad how she does that. and how anyone can question any of her feelings for him when shes immediately all jayce. or how in general people think shes only interested in her own goals) she asks this man who has shown her to be vulnerable around him and it BEING FINE, what happened, shes opening herself up to him, again, over and over, and he not only tells her it doesnt matter (what happened to him) but TURNS HIS BACK ON HER. he is literally shutting her off. he is saying with his body she does not get to do that. and for someone who has grown up like this, with a mother cutting off any kind of displays of weakness, this must be a familiar feeling, something that goes off like a bell
but she still tries! she still tries! she sees something is wrong but she tries to get comfort anyway, because this is jayce, right, this is the man she cares for deeply, the man who has opened this door for her and the door she's let herself through, the man who has always had compassion for her. of course she tries again. why wouldn't she? so she starts that something has happened to her but he doesn't even let her tell him what happened (actually it makes me so mad seeing this again and how crazy hostile he is towards her, its like im looking at the mel hating part of arcanetwt and him repeating beat for beat what theyve been saying for years) he doesnt give her room to speak, just takes it for himself, prioritizing himself and his own feelings. and, yes, figuring out the bombing thing and wanting to talk about it is valid and i think in general this could've been a great angsty way to deal with this topic IF they would've had the opportunity to talk this out properly but what happens instead is that the man that makes mel feel safe starts INTERROGATING her like she is a criminal that should be held for trial FOR SAVING HIM something she doesnt even undestand herself. and suddenly she is in a whole different position and i think by now she knows that this kind of compassion and understanding and room for vulnerability isn't part of their conversation anymore
she loses her composure and that of course isnt a first because she has started to be less put together around him, allowing her more room to "sway" but this kind of destruction is a different one because she feels at trial, feels cornered, feels like she has to explain herself but - and thats what is important - isnt heard. and i think that is something she knows very well, something shes grown up with, trying to explain herself and not being heard.
all of that happens while he is, mind you, still holding onto that hammer. something she surely notices too. the man who's usually quick to let down his defences around her, who isnt councilor talis or mister talis but just jayce around her, is holding onto that hammer like shes a threat. so he tells her he thinks shes lying and she asks him why he would think she'd do that, obviously, because her understanding of their relationship and their trust is a different one than his or at least this jayce that has come back from the arcane, because clearly this kind of understanding comes from somewhere and it comes from the times they've spent together alone throughout season 1 and a little in the beginning of season 2.
he throws at her that shes been using him, something that surprises her, because clearly she doesnt know what has happened, but she tries to explain anyway, because she doesnt know what has happened at least not in full (as you can tell by her reaction to viktor appearing, sensing the hostile mood between both, but also the way she reacts when viktor mentions the noxians intentions), and you can see that these thoughts of his are a result of months in the arcane alone with them and imagining conversations over conversations (although for me its still hard to understand how he grew that hostile towards her this quickly as if she were responsible for everything that happened but those are thoughts for a different post). he crashes out during that conversation, his face is warped with hatred and that is. all. for. her. to. see. and then BOOM goes the hammer off. mid conversation. a conversation that should feel safe with a man she should feel safe with but none of that is there. there is no space for her. (and yes i know hes aiming at viktors puppet but that isnt somethng mel is aware in that moment)
it all leads up to a fight and eventually they walk together and he apologizes, although very distantly and without much explanation, and despite it all, despite having good reasons to shut off and not share what she's feeling, she does. she talks to him about what is on her mind and they have a short, bittersweet exchange but it's just nowhere to what they've established in the first season. as a shipper of course that is super frustrating, but as a mel fan it's just sad to see that the person she felt safe enough to seek comfort in is just so closed off. but not only that, it's obvious they're parting ways and it's very obvious this is coming from his side and i think that is also why she so wilingly accepts it. she doesn't fight much back throughout their whole fight earlier either, she tries to explain herself, but doesnt demand that room for herself even though in this relationship she should be able to take just as much room for herself and her feelings as he does, but she doesn't. she just lets it happen and i understand it bc you have this man you trust and probably love and his first reaction to you is hostile when hostile has never been a response to her. he made a complete u-turn and of course that's off putting, maybe even scary, of course it shuts her down, makes someone who's so good with words and fighting just try to cause as little damage as possible because that is how she's grown up, isn't it?
and that is why i am sad about this. she learned that love doesnt have to look like her mothers and that being vulnerable isnt a weakness and its his doing but here she is met by this kind of hostility she only knows from noxus and it hurts even more that it COMES FROM HIM and over something as SAVING HIS LIFE when its clearly was an act out of love and not investment bc if i'd would've been just that than she would've saved viktor as well? but it wasnt about that. it was her subconscious making a decision and it was something her mother would describe as an act of weakness (theres a reason she gets renni to attack him bc she sees how fond mel of him is maybe even because shes been fond of a man herself once and she knows what itll do) and i think the worst part about it is that she doesnt ever get to truly articulate this or anything else and now that jayce is gone (dead? in a stone? who knows?) she won't get to ever probably. she won't get to say what she thinks and explain herself truly and she won't have anyone to confide in, to be comforted by or comfort. elora is dead, kino wasn't real and the real one is actually dead too, jayce is well whatever he is, and her mother died in her arms. yes, mel is a mage and that is fucking awesome and i was so happy to see her go off and get so many spotlights in battle, but shes also so fucking tragic actually. because here she is with a fuck ton of weight on her shoulders, the noxian army looking up to her, the whole name, not knowing who her father is or what any of her powers mean, the whole black rose thing, everything unresolved between her and jayce, the death of the people she loves, and shes all alone with it. shes all alone with it and she gets no one. man im just fucking sad that this woman got a glimpse of what it could be like to be loved and have someone to "come home to" just for her to have literally no one left like why do you hate black women so much why cant they get a fucking good ending and why cant they be fucking loved even when things get hard
also im lowkey mad that jayce got to find comfort in her lap so many times and not once did she get that in return, not even a squeeze of her shoulder, but dont let me get started on that....
#mel medarda#jayce talis#meljay#onlymeljay#goldenforge#arcane#arcane season 2 spoilers#arcane spoilers#kds.txt#im sorry this is a lot but i have so many thoughts#a lot of them hurt me#but i think this one just kills me the most#i wanted her to have something she didnt have before#it was so nice to see her being treated this well#only for it to end like that#and so cold too
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riddle me this. what does a 50 million dollar drive, a giant helmet made from recycled materials, the british media, safety infringements, an aborted start, six red flags, rain, team orders, the first black flag in seventeen years, the dutch national anthem and ayrton sennas 1990 mclaren all have in common?Â
stumped? well iâll tell you.Â
itâs the 2024 brazilian grand prix.
the last race of our second to last triple header. a sprint weekend. and chaos in its highest form.
today is november 23, 2024 and make sure you get a snack because this is a long one.Â
we started the week off pretty strong with lance stroll getting broken up with on his birthday.
well, maybe.Â
his girlfriend deleted all of the pictures of him off of her instagram account on his birthday, which really doesnt look good. and this really set the tone for the week of bonkers shit that was now upon us.Â
things like lando being asked about the dreaded Last Week With Max incident. in an interview he was asked (told?)
âAre you aware that people watching at home don't want to see the fight between you and Max for the world championship ending in radio messages, tedious steward inquires, time penalties? They want to see you racing nicely and cleanly.âÂ
lando was in agreement clearly because he saidÂ
âAnd so do I! And I do.â
max on the other hand still remained max about the situationÂ
he was asked  during the press conference: âa lot has been said since mexico. are you going to change the way you go racing this weekend?âÂ
and max said, like a badass:
âyeah, ive heard that before in my career. its my tenth year in formula 1. i think i know what im doing!â
christian horner brought receipts, as in actual data sheets, to his mexico gp media session about how maxâs penalties from mexico were unjust. i don't think that anyone really listened to any of this though because the penalties were never unturned.Â
one penalty that they did figure out what charlesâs swear penalty from the press conference in mexico. the fia finally made a decision. charles will be pleased to know that he does Not have to do community service with max. but honestly (and this is now my own opinion here) why give one guy community service and not give it to the other? max apologized for his language Before he said âthe car is fucked.â charles apologized After once he realized what was going to happen. not really sure here why the fia is out to get max but whatever i don't make the rules. also. the fines and the community service seem to Only be confined to the press conferences because as we know. people have cursed in the cool down room (lando in singapore notably) and also many have over the radio (checo, franco, charles, george, etc etc) and they have not been told anything. hm. in any case though, we have more important things to focus on than weird swear bans.Â
like charles leclerc nation going insane when this video was posted, which is a new contender for best weird yet still sexy video of charles on the ferrari page
liam lawson told everyone that he is ânot here to make friends, im here to win.â following his Incidents with fernando and also checo at the us and mexican gps. which is interesting for a few reasons. 1. hes in a vcarb and statistically they have not won a single thing all season because they are vcarb and 2. he was soon after seeing being besties with yuki.
oh and also. max reacted to (was asked about?) the whole liam flipping checo off while they were driving in mexico thing, and max said âCheco, I think if I did that to you, I would be quite afraid leaving the country.â
and there were also the usual âthis is checoâs last race weekendâ general threats. weve seen these before. so theyre not worth wasting typing space on because i cant imagine that theyre going to fire him this late into the season. and why would we talk about the goofy red bull rumors that always are swirling everywhere when we could instead talk about lewis hamilton and franco colapinto.
lewis hamilton praised the crap out of franco colapinto. at the press conference on media day. as we all know franco is a lewis fangirl. so. he honestly might still be in a state of shock. Â
âIt's always great to see young people, young talented individuals get the opportunity to come through and shine, and he did that in the first race. We had a great little battle and it was super safe. It was hard but fair. [...] He's saying it's not for him to decide, but my advice would be - I would be pushing on my side to make sure I'm doing absolutely everything. At the end of the day, he's got to continue to focus on doing his job every weekend, as he is, and hopefully, he's got good people behind him who are doing the right job to make sure that he's here racing next year.â
and low and behold a few hours later franco did make a fangirl post about it.
also. brazil is Not francoâs home race, but they are now officially in south america, so it was like a home race adjacent for him (hes from argentina) and the crowds were definitely in agreement. we will get back to that later.Â
there was a fan at the race who saw him in the paddock and yelled at him âFRANCO. CAN YOU SIGN MY SHIRT? ITâS A KNOCKOFF ONE. FRANCOOOOOâ and he lost his shit over that. because remember a few weekends ago he told everyone to buy williams knockoff merch cause it was just as good and not as much money?
we also had some helmets. valtteris had coffee on it because its something that brazil is known for.
oscars had funny little androids on it that were all different hims (he also said he only recently learned that it was polite cat and not sleepy cat)
esteban had some brazil themed stuff
lewis had a senna/brazil tribute helmet
lewis was also going to get to drive ayrton sennaâs 1990 mclaren after qualifying on saturday.
oh and of course we had stake do a funny little meme thing on their twitter because theyre quite known for their funny little meme things.
is this a terrible glimpse at media day? yeah absolutely but u know what i have 7 pages of notes front and back from the races themselves so deal with it i suppose. unlike what some of you may think, i 1. do not want to be writing this post forever and 2. also have other things i need to do.
one person was not at media day though and it was fernando alonso and it was because he was in the hospital im pretty sure somewhere in spain for what im also pretty sure was intestinal issues. he had also been out last week for media day due to sickness, but he was back for the race. between this and laceâs probable breakup it was shaping up to be a banner weekend for aston martin, and it was only going to get worse!
someone who definitely didn't miss media day though was sebastian vettel. if you don't know who sebastian vettel is, he was a four time world champion, menace, shit stirrer and boy toy twink esque guy who is now mostly unreachable and is the epitome of âhey i cant do nothing to nobody no moreâ and comes out of hiding maybe twice a year to subject the grid to a new arts and crafts project. but do not be fooled. this is the same guy who was asked, after winning his first race, if it was the best moment of his life and he said, and i quote âyou obviously werenât there when i lost my virginity.â anyway, this time his arts and crafts project was a giant helmet made from recycled materials paying tribute to ayrton senna. and yes, he made the whole grid get in the helmet. his whimsey is still off the charts.
he was also wearing really terrible shorts. as in they were long, over the knee khaki shorts. some things never change.Â
he also tried to make a bet with sky germany about max winning the championship. sky germany refused.
ok im not even going to Pretend to know what happened during the practice session. max got a 5 place grid penalty for sundays race because he took a new engine. i think georgeâs car briefly broke? idk. he did get it fixed tho and ended the session in p2, behind lando who was p1. and then we had a special guest in p3.
who was it? well i will give you a clue. it was NOT kevin magnussen!!! why? because he wasnât feeling well.
so, everyones favorite (team dubbed) âsuper subâ jumped back in the cockpit once again.Â
you guessed it, it was ollie bearman!!! originally i think he was supposed to just be in for practice (and yes he did get p3 in practice). but since its a sprint weekend (yeah, i forgot that too) that means theres only one practice session and then sprint qualifying later that day. and so. the way formula racing works. is that whatever driver drives the car for qualifying also needs to drive the car for the race. they cant get replaced if the car has already qualified.Â
ollie by the way had never driven in brazil before. he said that he did it once in a video game. and now he was about to do it irl in a real car. he also got a phone call at 6:45am saying heyyyyy buddyyyy you wanna jump in the car this weekend? we happen to have an opening! and well that's not the exact quote but that is what happened. Â
and then haas announced that kevin was not going to be racing that weekend due to sickness. ollie responded in a definitely very normal way which was âof course condolencesâŠi mean, give my best to kevin.â and then he was officially In The Car for the weekend. what could do wrong??? Â
well lets just say that a Lot happened:
starting with lovely and wonderful Sprint Qualifying. yes thatâs right. this is a sprint weekend. why does the fia do this to us guys.Â
two things were important to note.Â
there was a slight threat of rain
2. the track had been resurfaced and it was bumpy, which is not great when you're driving over 200kph. it really can affect your vision and also your back
lewis had trouble with the car a few years ago when it was porpoising and he was also not doing great at this race. but merc said that he was âall good.â he was not the only driver complaining about the bouncing though. it was extreme and it was dangerous and we will hear more about it later.Â
i think that franco took a nap at some point. at least its in my notes so it must have happened. and i think that it was also in the car. unfortunately i don't have a photo. like many other things on this post you will just have to trust me.
aston martin had decided that their car sucked to massive degrees and rolled back their upgrades all the way to suzuka. u know, just to see if they could figure out what the fuck was wrong with their car. Unfortunately though they could not because both of their drivers got out during sq1.Â
one team was pleased with what was happening and that was mclaren. they had a new rear wing that was brazil specific and also apparently legal unlike the last one and they were Flying. in sq2 lando took the fastest time with a 1.09.0. on medium tires. last years fastest time was 1.10 on soft tires, so in the words of the commentators, ânorris is on another planet!â this was good for them because they hadnt actually been sure they were going to be able to race. theor freight for their car (and some other teams cars) had all been delayed cause they were shipped in wooden boxes and you cant ship things in wooden boxes to brazil because they need to protect the rain forest.
the commentators, mostly karun, also lamented about the swear bans, which they rightfully thought were stupid as hell. he brought up a good point though which was âare you going to have translators for every language? how are you going to monitor it?â because very few of them speak english as their first language and most speak more than 1 language so it is possible they could just curse in Not English
but we don't have time for that right now. not when ollie bearman had just knocked checo out of sprint qualifying. thatâs right, ollie went just slightly faster, pushing checo from p10 down to p12.Â
liam and checo also almost crashed. which wasn't a surprise but it was still funny.
also surprising was that oscar pulled out a pole lap at the very end of sq3, a 1:08.899, only a few thousandths faster than lando.Â
âwhere did that come from?â karun asked. âwas he saving something in his pocket away from his teammate? that is a very fernando alonso trickâ
regardless of what it was, he was still on pole. for the second time during a sprint.Â
âvery very happy,â oscar said in his interview. âtry and win obviouslyâŠstarting from the best seat in the house, make sure it stays that way.â which is an important surprise tool that you should all remember for later. later being the sprint race.Â
they all lined up
oscar, lando, charles, max, carlos, george, pierre, liam, alex, ollie, lewis, nico, checo, franco, valtteri, fernando, esteban, yuki, lance and guanyu.Â
and before we get into the sprint, lets get a little reminder on the championship standings.
1 Max Verstappen 362
2 Lando Norris 315
3 Charles Leclerc 291
4 Oscar Piastri 251
5 Carlos Sainz 240
6 Lewis Hamilton 189
7 George Russell 177
8 Sergio Perez 150
9 Fernando Alonso 62
10 Nico Hulkenberg 31
11 Lance Stroll 24
12 Yuki Tsunoda 22
13 Kevin Magnussen 14
14 Alexander Albon 12
15 Daniel Ricciardo 12
16 Pierre Gasly 9
17 Oliver Bearman 7
18 Franco Colapinto 5
19 Esteban Ocon 5
20 Liam Lawson 2
21 Zhou Guanyu 0
22 Logan Sargeant 0
23 Valtteri Bottas 0
so max, lando and i believe also charles and maybe oscar?? were still in contention for the championship title. and as a reminder. oscar was starting on pole, with lando, charles and max all behind. lando was able to knock some points off of max in mexico with the time penalties that he racked up and was really hoping to continue to do that in brazil. so max needed to get around charles at the start asap so he could start duking it out with the mclarens.
and speaking of mclaren, there was some good speculation that we might get faced once again with the âpapaya rulesâ aka mclaren team orders. as in, oscar might have to let lando past.
and so. lets see what happened on lap 1.Â
well. max did not pass charles. lewis dropped several places, ollie dropped several places, and the two mclarens started to pull away from the rest of the pack, especially oscar who managed to get half a second ahead of lando.Â
so we had a slightly new running order:
oscar, lando, charles, max, carlos, george, pierre, liam, nico, ollie, alex, checo, franco, lewis, esteban, valtteri, yuki, fernando, lance and guanyu
and then max and charles started battling on lap 3. by lap 4 charles had taken the fastest lap. and by lap 6 he had closed the gap to lando and was in an epic drs train because lando had also closed the gap to oscar.
george had also started struggling, probably because he was in a mercedes, and was trying to get passed by pierre gasly, in a alpine.Â
lando meanwhile, was still up in p2 and not entirely pleased.Â
âyeah, im not sure what were doing here i thought we talked about thisâ he said over his radio right before he locked up and fell out of oscars drs and into charles and then also maxâs drs. he was probably referring to, why the hell hadnât mclaren done their team orders business yet?
well, his race engineer, will jacobs, had absolutely no information to offer for him, he instead said. âunderstood keep doing what youâre doing.âÂ
âyeah whatever,â lando said, unimpressed.Â
there was some announcer speculation that oscar might give it up to him on the last lap, on the last corner, similar to what lando did to oscar way back in hungary. hungary? idk. its been a long season. and its still even longer.
anyway. checo had been stuck down behind nico hulkenberg in 11th for a very solid nine laps, unable to pass him. he finally managed it on lap 9. his reward? another haas to pass! ollie bearman! he managed that a few laps later and was met with quite possibly his biggest foe: liam lawson. who, just to add even more insult to injury, was in the last points position of the race.
mclaren meanwhile had decided to do some team orders, but not the ones that lando wanted. they told oscar to drop back to give lando some drs, to rescue him from the charles and max inferno that was chasing him. and oscar did. the top 4 though were still separated only by 4 seconds.Â
and charles, he understood the assignment. he was racing absolute balls to the wall, elbows all the way out. doing anything and everything to keep max behind him.Â
max was though, unimpressed.Â
âah come on charles man, so many mistakes,â he said over the radio.Â
charles was told about this post sprint, and he had a funny little reaction. unfortunately i could only find that reaction in gif format.
in any case, i believe this was a clip from sky sports, possibly probably alex jaques who said after that radio "that is max verstappen urging a rival that he's had since his childhood to stay with the McLaren because he wants the ferrari to stay there. but that error has created now two battles instead of a four car battle for the lead."
to make it worse for max, lando could have gotten ahead of oscar here, but alas there were no team orders. so he could not. and also he was still slightly too close to charles and max to not be under threat from them. still, oscar was told to floor it to open the gap between lando and charles, for the potential swap.Â
and there was nothing that charles could do about it cause he had absolutely no battery power.Â
will jacobs finally decided to mention the team orders threats on lap 17. âwe are happy to hold these positions until the last lap.âÂ
to which lando said âyeah i will overtake.âÂ
and so it seemed that the commentators were correct. there was a prophesied last lap swap coming from mclaren.Â
in case you're tired of this mess, checo was still battling for 8th place with liam. he managed to get it very briefly. and then he lost it because he locked up.Â
oscar went fastest on lap 18. and then max also passed charles.Â
so it was game fucking on at the front of the grid. and everyone, including gp, maxâs race engineer, knew it. because he told max on lap 19 âcmon mate, lets chase em down.âÂ
mclaren responded as anyone would. by telling oscar âverstappen we believe is faster than leclercâ on lap 24. which is like. fork found in kitchen. max is the king of putting that red bull in places that it should never be allowed to go and that is the front of the grid.Â
speaking of red bulls, checo finally managed to pass liam lawson for 8th. and he did it cleanly without locking up this time. and liam didn't even flip him off.
and mercedes, to no ones surprise, had no race pace.Â
then! interestingly! there was a yellow flag! but the cameras didn't quite cut fast enough so we didn't really see what happened. turned out that nico hulkenberg had pulled off with an exhaust issue. he was technically off the track, but it was not in an overtaking spot (can overtake during yellow flags) and he seemed to still be trying to maneuver the car further away from the track, so the announcers said that this would not hurt the overtaking battle that was looming between the mclarens and max. the cameras then jumped back to that, kind of ignoring nico.Â
they had still not swapped, and max was gaining.Â
then the cameras cut Back to nico hulkenberg. and he was now out of the car. standing on the grass near some barriers. and this picture doesnt really do it justice but he is about 15 feet from a live race track
(there was still a yellow flag in that specific sector but he was OUT OF THE CAR next to a FORMULA 1 TRACK with NO SAFETY CAR)Â
there was now though a Threat of a safety car. gee i wonder why. his car was stopped not too far from the track and he was standing on the track, it was a massive disaster waiting to happen.Â
and so, mclaren gave the team order to swap positions.Â
lando and oscar did.Â
and immediately.
and i MEAN IMMEDIATELY they called a virtual safety car.Â
oscar had dropped back into the clutches of max verstappen and max had just revved up to pass him when suddenly! no no! safety car!
which was interesting.
but we will get back to that in a minute.
now, under a virtual safety car, cars need to keep the gap between them, but the track can go green at any moment and without any warning.Â
and max was on top of that. âpay attention to this!â he said over radio âbecause if hes (oscar) on purpose driving slow (to give lando a bigger gap) report it!âÂ
oscar though seemingly remained on his best behavior.Â
and on the last lap the virtual safety car was announced to be ending.Â
max was getting antsy behind the two mclarens and pulled up next to oscar in preparation for the track going green, but it went green a second too late and oscar was able to pull away and make a beeline all the way to the checkered flag while still keeping max behind.Â
lando came in first, followed by oscar, max, charles, carlos, george, pierre, checo, liam, alex. lewis, franco, esteban, ollie, yuki, guanyu, and lance and nico DNFd.Â
oscar was clearly very disappointed about the result (remember he said after sprint qualifying that he wanted to hold onto his p1). and karun wondered aloud if âmark webber will negotiate a bonus for oscar with that, he should.â cause remember, mark webber was the infamous number 2 red bull teammate to sebastian vettel who was forced to pretty much give up anything and everything for him. and, need i remind you, this weekend seb was running willy nilly around the paddock getting drivers to get in his giant recycled helmet. all very distressing things for one mark webber.Â
oscar also said that it was âa bit trickyâŠ.bit bumpyâŠ.learned a lot for the race tomorrow.âÂ
lando said that âwe work well as a team togetherâŠ.i thanked oscarâŠ.he deserved it but you do what you have to do.âÂ
later, in the press conference, an interviewer congratulated oscar on his win. oscar, confused, said âi don't know what i won but thank youâÂ
max said that he âhad to wait for some mistakes and luckily they cameâ in regards to overtaking charles. âit took a bit too long with charlesâŠbut whenever hes on the drs, hes very hard to attack!â
charles said in a later interview about max âi think max was a lot more on the reserve at the beginning then started pushing at the end. he had more pace, he did a better job with tire managementâ
lets remember that these two are Not Teammates.Â
max though was brought to the stewards though for a vsc infringement (when he pulled next to oscar) because that is Not Allowed. and he ended up with a time penalty that demoted him to fourth. so charles ended up finishing third. and he got a penalty point on his super license.
but what about that safety car call?Â
well i am so glad that you asked.Â
the post race show opened with one will buxton talking to one andrea stella, the mclaren team principal. and here was what he had to say about the mclaren 1-2:
âvery good news, a mclaren 1-2⊠[we had a ] clear conversation with both drivers [before the race]â here he then called them both number 1 drivers again (which everyone thought we were past) â[it was] very risky swapping even with 1.5 seconds [to max], we were waiting for a few more seconds to materialize, but it never didâÂ
will buxton, ever the shit stirrer and also as we know, probably the number 1 person pissed at mclarens team strategy this year, then asked why lando was so upset over the radio.Â
andrea was having none of it. âwell i already answered the question didn't i? when you're a number 1 driver you get nervous when you are behindâŠwe needed to do a very good job to stay ahead of him [max].âÂ
he then departed and james hinchcliffe quite literally Stumbled into frame with his own thoughts on the mclaren swap. âit ended to plan, it didn't go to plan,â he said. âthey got very lucky with the vsc.âÂ
he then talked about the vsc. âthe timing of the vsc was weird to meâ you know with the driver being a solid 10 feet from the track with zooming cars? âi don't think it was done the best it could have been done.âÂ
and this seemed to be the general consensus everywhere else online. why on earth wait to call a safety car when quite literally we had a driver who was out of the car and standing next to the track? that is quite literally a Safety Problem. and given the timing of the mcalren swap, it seemed Possible that perhaps race control had been waiting for mclaren to swap before calling the car. which is, as im sure you could all figure out, kind of weird and sketchy.
but aside from that. there was still much praise for max. âmax played it so smart today,â james said, referring to max selectively murdering charlesâs tires by fighting with him for the first half of the race. âwith not the best car on track hes still performing above expectations.âÂ
there was some proper francomania in brazil. so much so that flights from argentina to brazil had sold out. franco said on the post race show that âthe rivalry between brazil and argentina is in football not motor racing.âÂ
pierre had scored a p7 which he was happy with. mostly because it was a points position and those are kinda hard to come by at alpine.Â
lewis though just about wanted to quit. they asked him how his race pace was and he said âhorrendous. one of the worst races ive hadâ which is really saying something when you remember that he has had 353 race starts. he wanted to change the car entirely before quali.Â
and lance stroll also winked at esteban ocon while they were interviewing ollie bearman.Â
most notable quote from the post sprint was this, by max: Â
the interviewer asked him: âlando said âi don't have to change my driving style, if anyone has to do it, it's max.â do you agree? you won't change it?âÂ
and max said: â[im a] three time world champion. i don't have to change anything.â
max, as some of us may forget, is a very good driver, heâs just in a shit car this year and other people are very very fast. finally. but he is in fact a 7 time world champion. he won every race except 3 last year. heâs insane and he loves this sport. it never pays well to underestimate max verstappen.
and with that absolute banger of a line, letâs get into qualifying.Â
what's that? its delayed? why is that?Â
oh! cause its raining!
like comical, almost biblical amounts of rain.Â
during the delay we had one will buxton and one james hinchcliffe speaking to us about all the current drama.
for example: is checo doing enough? apparently christian horner has dialed back the intensity of his support, so whos to say! but then again, this is red bull, they drop people for anything and everything
and they briefly mentioned the audi seat cause everyone is in contention for the audi seat apparently, including gabriel bortoleto, who is currently leading the f2 championship and a mclaren academy driver.
but they mostly debated their favorite topic: what the ever loving fuck is going on at mclaren.Â
specifically, this edition: Why Didn't They Swap Cars Sooner????
(please know this conversation was had in rain jackets in the pouring damn rain and it looked like they were like uh we got no broadcast happening cause downpour we need to fill the time we need to fill the time hmmm what to do oh! we got will and hinch! give then a microphone and let them go for it! and that they did)
james thought that they left themselves exposed to max and charles for too long, and apparently mclaren said that it would swap the cars at the first opportunity originally but then they didn't swap when they said over the radio that the gap to leclerc was significant.Â
will buxton had a theory: âtheyâre trying to do it without upsetting either driverâÂ
he then, in true will buxton fashion, went completely and totally off the rails about it:Â
âandrea stella wrote the guidebook for team orders when he worked at ferrari. where is that? [why arenât they saying âyou work for us, you do what we sayâ?]â
âthe team [the drivers] needs to understand who pays the bills hereâ james added.
âif they don't lay down the law now they put themselves in an awkward position or laterâ will said about how this would affect the future of mclaren because if they were already starting to win now and be in contention for the championships then whos to say that they couldn't do it again next year?
and then, somewhat inexplicably, they stopped talking to us and we had no screens no nothing no view on anyone for about 40 minutes. all we could assume was that qualifying was delayed.Â
and that it definitely was.Â
once we finally got a visual on the track again it was in fact still raining, and only getting worse.Â
but if theres one thing about formula 1, its that they know how to have fun in the rain.
like how they let ted loose in the pit lane and he stalked through the mercedes garage, and proudly told the whole world that bono, lewisâs race engineer, has a carbon fiber cup of tea. and then the camera zoomed in on it.
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he then also tried to talk to toto by picking up a headset and shouting into it âwe miss you toto!â but instead of getting to toto the message went to jack, totoâs son? Â
and then someone, i don't remember who, perhaps it was karun, told ted to âlook at fred vasseur, hes a handsome man most of the time.âÂ
the crowds were shouting âole ole ole franco!â which was different from their usual chant of âole ole ole senna!â and will buxton told franco that âflights from buenos aries to sao palo have sold out, that's the affect you are havingâ franco was impressed.
ollie bearman, who has objectively, by the way, been thrown now into three increasingly more insane race weekends (saudi arabia with like a few hours notice, singapore, and now the hellscape that was the giant rain storm in brazil) decided to do the sensible thing and take a nap.
"at his age it's gonna be his bed time soon, right?" one of the servus tv announcers said about ollie.
lewis decided to brave the rain to take some aesthetic rain pics
which he then posted on his instagram story
kimi antonelli was not so lucky. he got shoved into the rain by some mercedes mechanics. for sport.
george meanwhile was off jumping in puddles
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and looking like a polite bowling pin wearing maybe some toe nail polish
and jack doohan made everyone tea in the alpine garage
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oscar had a lovely little chat with fernando alonso
and then so did mark webberÂ
perhaps the most insane part of this was that no one and i mean no one knew how they were going to decide the grid order, should qualifying not happen. and as it got progressively more and more delayed, that was looking like it was going to be the case.Â
the race director told everyone at one point that it was ânot really possible to qualifyâ which was you know, a problem, since that needs to happen in order for them to race.Â
hilariously, there was nothing in the regulations for if someone like this were to happen.
next years regulations said that championship standings could be used for qualifying order if qualifying was not able to occur, but that's not this years regs so they couldn't do that. there were though regulations for what should happen should qualifying for a sprint race not be able to occur and that was use the standings from practice 1. and there was also regulations for what should happen if qualifying could not occur on a normal race weekend and that was use the standings from practice 3. but this was a sprint weekend in the main grand prix. so should they use the standings from practice 1? that would be particularly advantageous to haas who had ollie bearman come in third. should they use the standings from the sprint race? that would benefit mclaren.Â
âiâll add this to the list of reasons why iâm glad im not a steward,â karun said.
they continued to debate. everyone went back and forth. theyre going to use practice 1! theyre going to use the sprint! theyâll use sprint qualifying!Â
they got a hold of mike krak (the aston martin tp) who said that it was âa bit too dark and a bit too gloomy and a lot wetâ definitely too wet for racing.Â
sure enough qualifying was then switched from âdelayedâ to âpostponedâ perhaps indefinitely.Â
there was a chance that they could move qualifying to sunday morning. but the weather was not good for then either. and so the session ended, with no one knowing what the fuck was happening and sir lewis hamilton interrupting f1 ceo Stefano Domenicaliâs interview saying: Â
"I wanna go out give us better wet tyres and warming blankets so we can go out!"Â
and that was it
now, rain at the interlagos circuit is not exactly unheard of. mostly because it is literally interlagos (between two lakes, in portuguese)and theres been some insane rain races here before. namely 2016. max, who was still nearly a rookie and only in his first full year at red bull at that point had qualified fourth but ended up down in 16 with 15 laps to go due to some oversteer and pit stopping. he managed to make it all the way up to 3rd by sheer willpower and insanity alone and toto wolff called it âthe verstappen showâ because it was âphysicsâŠbeing redefined.âÂ
another infamous rain race was the one in 2008, the season finale race and where lewis hamilton won his first world championship title at mclaren. he almost lost the title to felipe massa at ferrari. felipe won the race, and lewis was running in 6th around the last few corners to the checkered flag when the person driving in front of him, timo glock, started going slowly and he managed to pass him for 5th place, which was all he needed to get to win the championship. but there were a few minutes of celebration in the ferrari garage where they thought they had won the drivers championship, until lewis crossed the line. and âis that glock going slowly?â is one of those very famous facing quotes
and last year at qualifying in brazil it ended with an absolutely biblical storm (according to crofty) and we got the infamous max verstappen storm lap for pole position
the running fan theory though as to why there was such massive amounts of rain this year was that nelson piquet was in the paddock. why does this matter? well. nelson piquet (a three time world champion and also father of max verstappenâs current girlfriend kelly) was fined 1 million dollars and banned from entering an f1 paddock again as punishment for racist and homophobic comments he made on video about lewis hamilton. and he was just there. in the red bull garage. like nothing was wrong. (this is made infinitely worse by the way that f1 drivers have since been banned from making âpolitical statementsâ on the track and etc, mostly because lewis in 2020/21 did a bunch of advocating for black lives matter and got some other drivers in on it (he was stopped by the fia for wearing a shirt that said âJustice for Breonna Taylorâ and sebastian vettel did some other advocating for the environment and also lgbt community, so they cant really even complain too much about this)Â
lewis did though tweet this tweet after that whole incident.
but anyway. qualifying. what was to come of qualifying??
well. let me tell you.Â
qualifying was postponed until 7:30am on race day, local time. and the race was moved up to i think 10:30 ??? am? to try and avoid as much weather as possible. which was good progress for f1 cause usually they don't do this.Â
it wasn't great for the drivers though who had to be awake at about 4am, barely ate food and jumped into the cars. esteban ocon set his alarm at precisely 4:31.
and george had coffee on an empty stomach. lando had a nutella sandwich. and off they went.
and by off they went i mean, it was still raining. âwetter than a fishermanâs bootâ according to crofty.
but they were qualifying.
ollie had never driven an f1 car in the wet before. which he was about to get a whole lot of experience doing.
some drivers though really love the wet. rain at at f1 race, while scary, is sort of a neutralizer because it really comes down to the skill of the driver and not so much the car. george loves the wet (a la spa 2021 when he managed to qualify a shitbox williams in p2) and so does esteban and lewis and max among others.
lance also likes a good wet race. âwell hes canadian, lance stroll,â crofty said. âheâs rather good on the ice.â
and to make it extra fun, theres no tire warming blankets for the wet tires to save money, which seems a little counterintuitive, but they don't really get used very often.Â
everyone was whipping around, dodging the puddles as best as they could, trying to clear the track of water a little, and we had some interesting people up in the top 5. as in the top five was esteban ocon, fernando alonso, yuki tsnuoda, checo perez, and lance stroll.Â
and then, could it be? in this economy? a red flag???Â
it indeed was! and it would not be the last!
it was franco, he had found the wall. he was okay. but the car was not.Â
and there was not a lot of time to fix it.
karun took this time to tell everyone that he thought that franco could not possibly get the red bull seat (which was a thing that was being debated hotly in the paddock despite franco saying that he was not in talks for a seat last weekend) because of incidents like this due to his own inexperience.Â
crofty brought up a separate but interesting point which was that in all the previous times that we have had qualifying on a sunday, a german has been on pole.Â
he is of course, correct.Â
japan 2004: michael schumacher
japan 2010: sebastian vettel
australia 2013: sebastian vettel
texas 2015: nico rosberg
japan 2019: sebastian vettel
and there was of course only one german on the grid right now. nico hulkenberg.
âits written in the stars!â crofty proclaimed loudly and to the general annoyance of karun, who did not want there to be a german polesitter this race because then crofty would be âinsufferableâ about it.Â
while they were debating that, the red flag had cleared and everyone went out again. including george russell, who was so impatient to get out that he overtook in the pit lane and despite being impeded a few times, still managed to put his mercedes in p2.Â
max got his lap time deleted and was now stuck down in 12th. lewis still needed to get out of the bottom 5 and lando was stuck in 15th.Â
everyone had one more lap.Â
lewis managed to only go 14th. then got pushed to 15th.
lando managed an okay first sector but needed âa middle and final sector of his life hereâ in order to clear the elimination zone. and he got a personal best in the middle sector but still only managed to go 14th. he was safe, but lewis was out. along with ollie, franco, nico and guanyu.
(âyour run of german poles on a sunday is gone,â karun happily told crofty)
lewis, as could be predicted, was very unhappy with his car. as he should have been. according to crofty he is âone of the top 3 drivers of all time in the wetâ and yet. here he was. in the wet. out in q1.Â
at the start of q2 it was not actively raining, which was good news. but it was still slippy and people still had on wet tires for the most part.Â
george went for a little spin but he was okay. no damage and no walls for him.
carlos was not so lucky.Â
he found the barriers. another red flag.Â
later he said that he had clearly misjudged the grip.
his crash was pretty big, bigger than francos, and again, theres less than 5 hours until the race.Â
everyone was ushered back into the pit lane as the track was cleared and repaired.Â
at the time, oscar was leading, followed by george, lance, max, liam, checo, valtteri, fernando, charles and carlos with lanco, pierre, alex, yuki, and esteban in the drop zone. 5:51 to go.Â
when they came back on track fernando alonso somehow managed to go fastest. could it be his first pole in over 4000 days???
and as everyone was on their final flying lap, including lando and max and checo, the yellow flags came out. it was lance stroll, he had gone off.Â
again, like in the sprint, the cameras did not immediately cut to him. but the announcers said that âi think race control are waiting for these laps to count before calling the red flag.â because several people were on flying laps and it was the end of the session, so it would not be resumed after the red flag.
lando crossed the line. he went fastest. almost immediately the red flag was called. max and checo were unable to finish their flying laps.Â
the red flag has had to be called cause lance was in âa dangerous positionâÂ
later, there was a half baked excuse that they thought that lance was trying to get the car moving which was why they did not call the red flag. this, by the way, was the state of lanceâs car:
it was clearly not in any state to be driven.Â
and yet. it took them 40 whole seconds to call a red flag for this. the previous two red flags were called in under 5 seconds.Â
and, need i remind you, that the delay of this red flag allowed for lando to get himself out of the bottom 5 and also knocked max and checo out of the qualifying session.Â
now might also be a good time to mention that max had a five place grid penalty for changing his power unit. so he would be starting all the way down in seventeenth.Â
and he was fucking pissed.Â
because remember. the 40 second delay of this red flag allowed Everyone to finish their flying lap Except for max and checo. so q2 ended with lando in first, followed by fernando, oscar, liam, alex, charles, esteban, george, lance, and yuki with valtteri, max, checo, carlos and pierre all getting eliminated.Â
also this is a very very valid safety complaint. it should not take that long for a red flag to be called when the car is not moving, had three clearly broken wheels and is also 15 feet from the track. all the worst accidents in f1 happen when there is a car that is already not moving from an accident or a problem and then it gets hit by another car. there have already been people who have died this way. it does not need to happen again.Â
aside from the bs flag call, checo was also pissed at red bull for entirely separate reasons and those reasons were because red bull had waited really long to go out for the final run which was part of the reason why they were not able to finish.Â
âcmon guys,â he said over radio. âwe gotta do that betterâŠif everyone is already waiting at the end of the pit lane why don't we go?âÂ
fans were outraged at this. one commented on instagram under a post about the teams qualifying positions âwhat is checo's garage doing? seriously???â and a red bull mechanic named greg commented underneath it saying âgiving him the same tools as max.â then, a second red bull mechanic named charlie commented responded to greg, saying âwhy you lying forâ
so. shit is certainly hitting the fan in more ways than one at red bull.Â
but back to qualifying.Â
there were no red bulls. which was odd. but we did have nine cars: both mclarens, both rbâs, and one aston, one mercedes, one williams, one ferrari and one alpine. what an interesting mix.Â
and it was about to get even more interesting because fernando alonso found a wall.Â
another red flag.Â
âred flag was much quicker that time,â crofty said. â19 seconds instead of 40.âÂ
and another wrecked car.
the standing order, with 6:59 left on the clock was lando, alex, oscar, esteban, george, charles, yuki, liam, fernando and lance.Â
and the rain could be coming back.Â
but there was good news for some people! like alex albon who was, according to crofty âon course for his highest startâ as he was currently sitting in p2 rather comfortably.Â
and in anticipation for the rain to re start, everyone had already queued up in the pit lane, despite the fact that the track had not yet been green flagged.Â
âitâs like the post office on a tuesday morning. you go down to get a box of stamps and they're already queuing up!â crofty said, making absolutely no sense.Â
thankfully there was no need to dwell on it because the track went green and they all spilled out again.Â
yuki went off and into the gravel, but was able to get out. so there was no red flag.Â
that came a few minutes later, for one very, very unfortunate alex albon.Â
yes, the same alex albon that had been on course to have his highest ever start. that alex albon.Â
and it was a big crash. he ping ponged right across the whole track like a very expensive and very broken ping pong ball.Â
he had no idea what happened either. over the radio he asked if the brakes failed.Â
and now williams had two very, incredibly broken cars to fix in just about three hours. remember that this team is held together by an excel spreadsheet.Â
three minutes, thirty one seconds to go.Â
and esteban ocon was seated at the front of the pit lane, waiting. behind him, the remaining six cars still left in the qualifying session from hell. remember this was all before ten am. at least two of them were running on only coffee and nutella.Â
âif i were him [esteban ocon], iâd select first gear and then wait ten seconds,â crofty said, speaking about how to impede lando and waste time, who was behind him, when coming out of the pit lane.Â
âoh youâre naughty,â karun said. then he went on a rant about how you physically cannot lie to the stewards because they will find out out. he apparently knew this from experience.Â
esteban did not impede lando and oscar upon exiting the pit lane. they all came out as they should.Â
âglad to see esteban found his first gear no problem and is out on the track,â crofty said. â[this is] quite the day in the championship battle.âÂ
and that it really was. five red flags, seven cars still standing, max verstappen starting p17, lando finally starting to really close the gap to him in the championship, qualifying at 7:30am on a sunday, race in three hours, rain, back end of a triple header, no oneâs been home in a month, and everyone was awake at 4am.Â
still, lando managed to improve his time, staying on provisional pole. oscar locked up and didn't finish his lap, he stayed p3.Â
liam lawson was gaining. he went second.Â
he was then replaced by yuki. for second.Â
then esteban ocon pulled out a third, splitting the two racing bulls.
lando extended his pole lap a second time.Â
and then george pulled out a p2.Â
charles unfortunately did not get in on the p2 fun. he stayed 6th.
and so. 1 hour and 45 minutes and five red flags later, with only barely 3.5 hours to the race. we finally had the starting order of the 2024 brazil gp.
p1: lando norris
p2: george russell
p3: yuki tsnuoda
p4: esteban ocon
p5: liam lawson
p6: charles leclerc
p7: alex albon
p8: oscar piastri
p9: fernando alonso
p10: lance stroll
p11: valtteri bottas
p12: checo perez
p13: carlos sainz
p14: pierre gasly
p15: lewis hamiltonÂ
p16: ollie bearmanÂ
p17: max verstappen
p18: franco colapinto
p19: nico hulkenberg
p20: zhou guanyu
one person wasnât satisfied with their position and that was charles leclerc.Â
âthat's p6â his race engineer told him over the radio.Â
âthat's fucking shitâ charles said.
the top three were definitely pleased though.
âa lot going on today,â lando said, accurately. âa little surprised.â
âreally pleased to be lining up p2,â george said. âi loved it [coming in early] to be honest. maybe this is the format for sunday morning.â
âvery tricky,â yuki said. âcertainly enjoyed it. feels much better than yesterday, good pace.â
yuki also ran into all of his mechanics in victory.
and we got this hilarious picture.Â
and i know what you're thinking. did everyone manage to repair their cars in time for the race?Â
yes. everyone except for alex albon, that is, who had to withdraw from the race due to significant damage.
what? that was not what you were thinking?Â
oh. you want to know if lewis got to drive sennas 1990 mclaren??Â
yeah! he did! before the race! and he did it no handed, in the rain. not to be biased here, but that's my fucking seven time world champion.
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and. finally. without any further ado. the race. or more accurately, the drivers parade.Â
charles was standing with pierre and then Yanked his had away from him so that he could shake hands with max. they seemingly developed somehow even more of a soldiers bond here, having a weird unspoken agreement that they were going to stop mclaren at whatever costs, because honestly what else could these two be yapping about, looking like they were teammates? especially when max was one minor inconvenience away from burning down the entire paddock?
meanwhile george and alex were causing all kinds of problems, completely oblivious to the scheming going on around them
and that about sums up the drivers parade.Â
onwards.Â
to the race.Â
it was still slightly raining when the cars all pulled off for their formation lap. and unfortunately that was where the chaos began.Â
with lance stroll going off during the formation lap. he then turned out of it and got himself stranded in the gravel after boinking into the wall and was effectively stuck.Â
and so there was an aborted start. some drivers, the several at the front, started to go around the track again, but their was confusion from others (like max) if aborted start meant that they did go around again or if they just sat on the grid and waited for the mechanics to come back out. in any case, everyone ended up going around again.Â
in the end, it ended up being that lando, the polesitter, was not supposed to go around again. and he did. and a lot of people followed him around. and no one knew if anyone (like his engineer) told him to go around again or he just did it on his own. he was still noted for going, and the whole mess was going to get brought up to the stewards later.Â
because what were they supposed to do in that instance? penalize everyone?Â
âyet another reason why im glad im not a steward,â karun said.
one thing was for sure and that was that lance definitely should buy his mechanics dinner that night as an apology because they had worked very hard to fix his car only for him to bin it again. (though the car had been in several pieces not too long again and there was a chance something was not connected correctly, he did say later that the car had felt pretty bad to dive in the formation lap)Â
this isnt even the first time that a car hasnt completed the formation lap in brazil. just last year charles leclerc crashed on the formation lap due to steering failure.Â
once they all arrived back on the grid after formation lap 2 the mechanics came back out and started rechecking the cars and etc while they waited for lanceâs car to get cleared. and the mercedes mechanics made a sneaky little adjustment to the tire pressure, hoping that no one would notice. unfortunately, they noticed.Â
onto formation lap 3! and thank god! everyone made it this time!
so with 18 cars and a rainy race ahead, lights went out and away they went into lap 1.
george was able to hold onto the lead!Â
and at the end of the first lap (which everyone blessedly survived) we had the following order: george, lando, yuki, esteban, charles, liam, oscar, fernando, pierre, lewis, max, franco, ollie, valtteri, nico, guanyu and checo.
that's right. max made up seven places. seven. and lewis had made up five. they were coming. max especially
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checo meanwhile had briefly gone spin, hence why he was now down in last place.Â
max passed lewis for 10th, already back into the points by lap 2.
george took the fastest lap on lap 3, already leading by 1.5 seconds. lando took it from him on lap 4. there was no DRS due to the rain, so lando was going to have to pass george the old fashioned style.Â
ollie bearman briefly went off the track after a small incident with franco, but he was able to rejoin.
and max passed pierre for 9th on lap 5
and then was up to 8th on lap 6 after passing fernando
meanwhile, along with lando, george, yuki and liam were all also noted for the starting procedure infringement at the beginning of the race. they would have to go with lando to the stewards after the race to hear their fate. meaning that no matter what the outcome of the race was, there was still a chance that they could get slammed with penalties after, so who knew if the real winners would in fact be the winners.Â
max, who had followed the rules for the starting procedure, took fastest lap on lap 7 as he started to close the gap to oscar in p7.
lando had started to eat into georgeâs lead a little, and george was now only .8 seconds ahead.Â
and the stewards noted the incident between ollie and franco. ollie received a 10 second penalty for causing a collision. which didn't really make a lot of sense to people as franco didn't really even have any damage.
max was declared to be the fastest man on track, faster than george, as he still zoomed up to the back of oscar.Â
meanwhile, lewisâs car had started bouncing, but george seemed unaffected as he took the fastest lap again on lap 10.Â
max passed oscar on lap 10, now in 7th. âhe came from so far back,â oscar said, entirely not expecting it.Â
âmax has tremendous confidence,â karun said.
and might i remind you all that it is RAINING
and then he passed liam for 6th on lap 11. unsurprisingly, liam was more compliant with max passing him than he had been with checo passing him in mexico). he was only 2.5 seconds behind charles, who was in p5. he had already made up 11 places in 11 laps in the pouring freaking rain.
lewis was not having as good luck. he went off the track and then got passed by franco.Â
âif i was haas iâd be annoyed with the penalty,â the announcers said, referring to ollies 5 second penalty. ânothing is wrong with that williams.â
by lap 15 there was a four way battle brewing for third. yuki, esteban, charles and max. who again i will remind you was 17th a mere 15 laps ago. this performance was starting to put even his 2016 brazil rampage to shame.Â
lewis was still not doing nearly as well, he tried to pass franco and failed.Â
lando was still in second behind george on lap 17 and said that he was struggling to overtake and that they were slow on the straights.Â
and to top it all off. the rain was set to get heavier in 15 minutes time.Â
charles, meanwhile, was managing to keep max behind. maybe he had brushed up on his skills since yesterday when max had called him out during the sprint for making so many mistakes over the radio.Â
no one had boxed yet. and the rain was starting to come down a little heavier. âgetting slippery with these worn tires in the wetâ nico said on lap 18.Â
and now as we know, its a crapshoot at best figuring out when to box for tires when its not raining. all that gets compounded into a fuckshoot when its raining. because it its expected to rain more soon, you'd want to put on new tires closer to then so that you have a better chance at clearing the water. plus theres always a chance it could get red flagged and then you could get a free pit stop. so the teams needed to get to the point with the big rain and then box for tires and hope that that was the right choice and that no one went off before then.
lando was back to gaining on george on lap 18
and ollie passed lewis for 14th
hamilton was clearly struggling in the mercedes, but george was leading? so was it a lewis problem? was it a car problem?? no one knew
max, meanwhile, was still under a second behind charles, no drs, on lap 20. charles had managed to hold him up for 9 laps and counting, which was a true feat when you remember how many places he has already made up.Â
âcarâs not driveable mate,â lewis said on lap 21. âlocking up, bouncing everywhere.â apparently the mercedes had some kind of a brake problem, but george was managing it just fine. he was still leading.Â
on lap 22 max tried to pass charles
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charles, clearly, did not let him
âthat was charles leclers knowing exactly where max was going to go and defending it a long way out!â karun said.
âhe was squeezing me!â max complained. âhe didnât leave a carâs width!âÂ
no one else seemed to have this view though because the stewards did not note the incident.Â
carlos was seemingly having some kind of car problem as he stopped behind ollie and lewis after going off the track briefly.Â
and this was all looking like it might be a good time for some new tires.Â
by lap 24, with heavier rain rolling in any minute, here were the standings:
george, lando, yuki, esteban, charles, max, liam, oscar, pierre, fernando, nico, ollie, lewis, franco, carlos, checo, valtteri, and guanyu.
the drivers had to make the call for the tires to go to the wets, according to the announcers. its something that the driver has to feel, not really the team, because the driver is the one in the car.Â
charles pitted for inters on lap 25.
not full wets, which was interesting (wets have more groves on them, inters have less, and they were about to have a shit load of rain)
lando asked to box to overtake george on lap 26. mclaren wanted him to stay out, despite his protests that he wanted to box for new tires. so he stayed out.Â
liam lawson meanwhile went off the track due to contact with oscar. he came back on in 9th.
nico hulkenberg pitted for inters on lap 26
lando was half a second behind george on lap 27
and apparently those inters didn't work too well for nico hulkenberg because he went off track and managed to get stranded on some banking.
a virtual safety car was called on lap 28, though not before esteban ocon managed to pass yuki for third.
again, who knew why it took them so long to call the safety car.Â
many people decided to pit.Â
oscar, fernando, lewis, ollie, carlos and checo.
and at this point, mercedes was finally reported for adjusting their tire pressure on the grid, which is not allowed! and also very bad news for george should he win the race because usually that behavior results in a disqualification and i don't think that george could handle another dsq after winning this season.
nico hulkenberg, meanwhile, was able to get back on the track
and the virtual safety car ended.
right as george and lando went to pit. which was incredibly unlucky
prior to this, george came on the radio to say that he thought that it was now red flag conditions. and he was probably correct. Â
âi think this is going to go red mate,â he said on lap 28. âthis should go red. we cant keep a car on the road like this. theres going to be big crashes. theres a big puddle through 4 and 13. there will be a crash there. i think stay out. it should go red.â and that would be good because then george could get his free pit stop and also maintain the lead of the race.Â
âunderstood, understood,â his engineer said. âso box, box.â
âi think, no, its going to go red,â george repeated.Â
âbox box. box, box. box, box. we need to box,â his engineer said. and so george had no choice but to box.Â
someone who didn't box was esteban ocon. he chose to stay out and with both lando and george pitting he was now leading the race on lap 29.
liam lawson and yuki tsnuoda pitted.Â
and after all the pit stops, we had:
esteban, max, pierre, george, lando, yuki, charles, oscar, fernando, valtteri, lewis, carlos, checo, ollie, franco, guanyu and nico.
âafter a truly awful season,â crofty said. âalpine is 1 and 3.â that they were. somehow. maybe it would stay that way.Â
and after all that. lando finally managed to pass george. but only for fourth, not for first.Â
and the safety car was deployed for rain.
so now no one could pass anyone.Â
esteban ocon had a 7 second lead on max verstappen.Â
and franco colapinto took this opportunity to pit for new inters.Â
oscar got a 10 second penalty for causing that collision a way long time ago with liam lawson.
and merc were still under investigation for the tire pressure thing.
and then all the others were still under investigation for the start procedure mishap as well.Â
at this point, max had gained 15 places. pierre had gained 10.Â
and behind the safety car they all pootled along. esteban, max, pierre, lando, george, yuki, charles, oscar, fernando, liam, lewis, valtteri, carlos, checo, ollie, franco, zhou and nico
that was, until franco had a huge crash.
and once again, there was the return of the red flag.Â
so now williams had crashed three whole times during the weekend. remember, they have no money and hardly any parts. and the mechanics were distressed beyond belief. Â
lando hopped on radio, annoyed with the mclaren strategy error because now everyone at the front (two alpines and max) would get free tires and he would not have the opportunity to get back to the front after they pitted.Â
george on the other handâŠ.
âso, red flag, red flag,â his engineer said.Â
âfuck!â george cursed. âi fucking said it! shouldve stayed out!â
yuki got a pep talk immediately after getting out of the car from team principal laurentÂ
and oscar jumped out of his car and immediately apologized to liam lawson for the incident.
âtheres a proper variety bag of pick and mix penalties that need investigating,â crofty said.Â
including nico hulkenberg who was being investigated for restarting his race after getting assistance from the marshalls pushing him back onto the track
and the results were in. he got a black flag. meaning he fucked up so bad he was disqualified. he was out. and it was the first black flag in 17 years. team haas was really doing it different this year. cause remember kevin got the first race ban in 12 years this season as well.
and ted just happened to watch nico get told this. he felt very awkward about it.
âi cannot watch this anymore, itâs too depressing,â ted said, turning away.
it was then announced that the race would be restarted as a rolling start. in 10 minutes.Â
max sprinted down the pitlane. meanwhile george and lewis peacefully scootered. they might still get disqualified for the tire pressure. they didn't seem to care.
george even stopped to get his boots cleaned as he stepped into the car (which yes i know is a thing cause they were wet with water but it looked so funny to see the mechanic wiping his feet like he was a princess)
and alpine, as we know, would be starting 1 and 3. they had not been in the top 5 all season at all whatsoever.Â
george did not like that there would be a rolling start. âthatâs more dangerous than a standing start,â he said over the radio.Â
and carlos thought that they needed 2 or three laps behind the safety car to decide. cause remember it is still very much raining.
but it was officially a rolling start. in six minutes. a rolling start meaning that they wouldnt line up on the grid, theyâd go out and do a slow lap and then just zoom! go!
carlos had a problem with his tires as they pulled out onto the track. âricky,â he said. âthese are not new inters. which ones are these? âŠ.hello?â ghosted by his own team.
and they went racing
zhou and bearman ended up in the grass pretty quickly, but they were able to get back on.
lando also went off and came back on just ahead of george. george took the position back.
and charles briefly went off.Â
on lap 34 esteban was still leading and had managed to stay 1.5 seconds ahead of max
hamilton overtook alonso for ninth.
ollie went spin spin spin into the barriers on lap 37. he was able to get going again but he had boinked his front wing. which had already been replaced during the red flag.
and yuki suddenly didn't have pace anymore because he was down in 8th. and getting hunted down by lewis.
ollie went off again. âinterlagos is really testing him,â crofty said. yeah no shit. prior to this race he had only driven the track once in a video game (not even the sim!) and he has no experience with f1 cars in the wet, much less this much wet.
on lap 39 esteban ocon was still leading by 2.8 seconds now.
and then carlos ended up in the barriers. no red flag, just a safety car.Â
he was okay. but he didn't get out of the car. it then became clear that he was trying to get the car out of the barriers before getting out. and thent here was a tractor on track. with a safety car. in the rain. cause that's safe and totally didn't happen at all during the fatal 2015 japanese gp.
it was at this point that they realized that most people who had gone off track had done so because they had gone over the white lines. and remember, the track had just been resurfaced. and despite the anti slip paint, they were still slipping. hm.
also, the last time that alpine had gotten a double podium was back when they were lotus with kimi raikkonen and romain grosjean in 2009 (?)
and, because this race wasn't already interesting enough, there was potential for more rain at the end of the race.Â
the safety car ended and they all went racing again on lap 43. ocon, verstappen, gasly, russell, norris, leclerc, piastri, tsnuoda, hamilton, alonso, lawson, perez, bottas, zhou, and bearman. the remaining 15 cars.
and max finally managed to get in the lead. all the way up for 17th place at the grand prix from absolute weather hell.Â
lando went off! dropping all the way down to 7th!
meanwhile liam passed fernando for 9th
and fernando went off the track, triggering a brief yellow flag.
max was already 1.5 seconds ahead of ocon. doing what he does best and making a gap. no one had ever won from 17th before at brazil either
and he took the fastest lap too, on lap 45
so our new order was:Â
max, esteban, pierre, charles, george, oscar, lando, yuki, liam, checo, lewis, ollie, valtteri, guanyu and fernandoÂ
mclaren popped on the radio with some infamous papaya rules and told oscar and lando to swap positions, so now oscar was in 7th and lando was in 6th, minimizing the damage to the gap that lando had just managed to close in the drivers championship very very minutely.Â
charles was noted for rejoining unsafely
and max took another fastest lap on lap 48
âmassively impressed with the alpineâs pace in these conditions,â karun said.Â
the last time that two french drivers finished on a podium was in 1997 in spain
on lap 50 checo and liam lawson started to battle for ninth. the commentators brought up the ever present talks that checo might not be in f1 next year.Â
oscar briefly went off the track, but managed to stay ahead of yuki, who was chasing him down.
and lando, despite the swap, was still quite stuck behind charles, despite having more pace. and we had already seen charles keep max behind for many many laps, so there was no doubt that he would continue to fight with lando. he and max were low key now teammates, after all
and yet, there still might be more rain
checo was still trying to pass liam lawson. he was still failing.Â
fifteen laps to go (finally)
max was still leading esteban, pierre, george, charles, lando, oscar, yuki, liam, checo, lewis, ollie, valtteri, guanyu and fernando on lap 55
and checo still could not pass liam
max had an 8 second lead
and even if the race ended up getting red flagged and not resumed for rain, everyone would get full points because the race was more than 75% complete
checo and liam had a minor incident. it was noted. âhe drove into the side of me!â liam complained
on lap 57 ted popped on to give his Insignificant and Unnoticed Award of the Day âto fernando alonso, he was 20 seconds down and now hes cut it down and is going to overtake zhou.âÂ
 max took yet another fastest lap, he was now 10 seconds ahead of ocon
âhes never changed one iota since he came in,â crofty said about max. âsometimes when you get penalized for the same thing over and over you do need to change.â though honestly, max was proving that he really didn't need to change, because he went balls to the wall with confidence unlike any other, and was leading a race he had started in 17th by 10 seconds. in the rain.
and george had managed to get within a second to pierre gasly
if pierre could hold onto third, alpine could jump from 9th to 6th in the constructors championship. which was estimated to be a difference of 50 million dollars in prize money.
lando was told over the radio to go close to leclerc. âi am!â lando said. âwhat do you think im doing?âÂ
by lap 63 max was still leading. this time by 13 seconds.
max was set to get 18 points more than lando at this race, and that was before any start penalties that lando might get awarded.Â
and he took another fastest lap
on lap 66 max was leading esteban, pierre, george, charles, lando, oscar, yuki, liam, lewis, checo, ollie, valtteri, fernando and zhou
âlooking like he [max] will be a 4x world champion and hold off the threat of mclaren,â crofty said.
and then, fernando alonsoâs radio crackled to life.Â
âi will finish this race for the mechanics, they did a very good job today,â fernando said. âbut my back hurts so much, there is so much bouncing. this is not normal.â and he did sound very in pain saying that. this re brought up concerns about the porpoising on the track. lewis had complained about it earlier and its been at no other track this year, meaning that it must be a track thing. meaning further that the track was probably resurfaced badly. because this is not normal. and yes, fernandos been having a terrible time during the triple header. hes been sick, he was in the hospital, he missed media day. this is still not normal though and cant be attributed to that.
lap 68. nearly to the end now. and max was leading by 18 seconds.Â
âheâs got more god given talent in a finger than some drivers every have,â karun said,
and meanwhile his teammate was down in 11th, trying to pass lewis for 10th. and failing.
last lap! finally!
and max won by 19 seconds! and he broke the record for most consecutive days leading a championship, breaking the record previously set by michael schumacher. and made it from 17th to first in the rain, despite all odds, in a car that barely worked, no drs, just spite and rage and pure talent. a true world champion
one by one, everyone else crossed the line
p2: esteban ocon
p3: pierre gaslu
p4: george russell
p5: charles leclerc
p6: lando norris
p7: oscar piastri
p8: yuki tsunoda
p9: liam lawson
p10: lewis hamilton
p11: checo perez
p12: ollie bearman
p13: valtteri bottas
p14: fernano alonos
p15: zhou guanyu
âbrilliant for alpine today, disastrous for mclaren,â crofty said
max, predictably, was absolutely thrilled saying that it was "SIMPLY LOVELY"
he sprinted to his mechanics, screaming and celebrating everywhere. he kissed kelly. he did not kiss christian.Â
this was only the 5th time, in this history of formula 1. 1125 races. that a race had been won from 17th or lower.Â
alpine was also thrilled.
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the funniest part was esteba oconâs radio, where they asked him âdid you think we were going to be here?â and he said âfunnily enough, no!â
ruben barichello did the post race interviews.Â
max said that he âstayed out of trouble, made the right calls.â he had 17 fastest laps. which you can watch here.
and you can watch all of his overtakes here.
esteban was also thrilled. âwhat a day that was after a difficult season! very happy to be on the podium!â they didn't know that the car would perform this well in the wet.Â
and pierre was equally as excited. âits incredibly for the whole teamâŠin these conditions everything was possible. im absolutely buzzing right nowâŠ.would have been easy to just give up but we never give up.âÂ
because lets remember where alpine started at the beginning of the season. heaviest car on the grid. and also the slowest. and now, here they were, with a double podium. and scoring the most points out of any team at the brazilian gp (35) Â
alpine even made a little graphic, reminding everyone of this:
also, id like to remind you, that pierre and esteban don't really get along. they used to be friends and now theyre not for complex reasons, and they were so overcome by the emotion of their double podium that they effectively ended the french civil war
the cooldown room was quite excitatory. never had we ever seen a podium where everyone was so insanely happy to be there. max said in the cooldown room to esteban that "You were fast. You were so fast I was happy to settle for second."
and of course. we got our dutch national anthem. she was back ladies and gents! she was back!
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and we had the goofiest looking podium selfie
esteban and pierre dropped their champagne bottles down to their mechanics. they celebrated. they were on top of the world.
prior to today, esteban had 5 points. today he scored 18.
âred bull might feel a bit more back in the game, but they still need 2 drivers,â crofty said. âmclaren are leading by some 46 points.âÂ
max though, now had a 62 point lead on lando.
and so lets see what our favorite dynamic duo, james hinchcliffe and will buxton, had to say about all of this in the post race show.
âi don't know what we were missing,â james said. âwe had everything.â and he was right.
starting off with the fact that max absolutely showed who was boss and now lando has to score 21 points every weekend in order to beat him in the drivers championship. prior to this weekend max hadnt been within 20 seconds of the winner at all in the last ten races. and today he won by almost 20.
and alpine hadnt finished in the top 8 all season!
âi take my hat off to themâ will said. âthey were 19th and 20th in bahrain, their car was overweight, there was no hope and they got their heads down and they got it done.âÂ
then we were joined by yuki and liam lawson.
âit was like floating around!â yuki said about the conditions.
âi nearly crashed probably 10 times,â liam said. âi came into the pitlane and i tried to stop nad i wasn't stopping. crazy race.âÂ
the two of them said that they just didn't have good luck today and got stuck behind others in dirty air. âshame pierre got p3 and they overtook us in the championship,â yuki said. âbut we keep going.â
then they examined the start. lando, george and yuki all went for the second formation lap. esteban ocon asked over the radio if he was supposed to say where he was and the tea, said yes. but then they eventually told him to go. james said that this was not great and someone from the team should have reminded the drivers of the procedure.Â
lando, george, yuki and liam were all going to see the stewards about the start.
then they moved on to discussing lando. âlando did not have his day when max showed his absolute best,â will said.Â
lando said in his own interview that he was âjust unlucky with the vsc pit. just that's life sometimes, not talent, just luckâŠ.still made a couple of mistakes in the end, little unfortunateâŠ.4th was the best anyone who boxed could do.â which, its unclear what hes really talking about here. if hes saying max just had good luck or if he had bad luck. in any case, insane to call a run from 17th to first just luck and not talent. and will buxton agreed.
âverstappen proved once again that he is the best in this sport. to beat the best you need to be better than the best.â and today lando wasn't.
james was in agreement with will, saying that mclaren did make some bad calls and also that max has a habit of putting his car where it doesnt deserve to be
first lando lost to george, then the safety car pit, then his mistakes on track, then he lost position, then he swapped positions and still couldn't get past charles. it was âenough mistakes that it does come down to his driving,â will said. âmax was ruthless today. there was no drs and he [still] found it.âÂ
âdoesnt take many mistakes to lose to maxâ james added.
mclaren also posted one of the strangest post race videos ive ever seen. usually theyre like somewhere in the paddock or whatever. this week they were in what appeared to be a weird dark closet, with lando and oscar only half in frame. oscar sitting on a desk and lando sitting in a spinny chair next to andrea. and it vaguely looked like they were all being held hostage. oscar aso said that âlando has one sock on inside out and that sums up our weekend.â
then they moved on to mercedes.Â
âmy take is that iv we stayed out we would have been at the front,â george said. âi was pretty angry at the time cause i wanted to say outâ because he was confident despite the conditions and thought it would get red flagged.Â
by comparison âlewis hamilton looked like he was having a horror show today in the first half,â will said.Â
âhes been unsettled with the race car,â james said. âhis highlight was before the race even started,â as in driving sennas car. and it was.Â
lewis had this to say on instagram about the whole thing
âGrateful for the team and the engineers, we did our best out there but it was a hard race throughout in really tough conditions. This couldâve easily been a weekend to forget but the energy and passion from the fans have made it memorable for me. I still canât put into words how it felt to drive Ayrton Sennaâs car. To share that with this crowd means everything to me. Thank you Brazil for the support and the love. I feel it, even on days like this, and I send it back to you đ§đ·đ«¶đŸâ
checo, they said âwas having a good comeback drive, but then that incident with lawson threw him off.âÂ
and ollie âequipped himself pretty well.â he said that it was a âtough raceâŠfinished p12, quite close to the pointsâŠreally tough day, learned a lot that's for sureâŠracing in these conditions the water is quite rare and valuable.âÂ
will was disappointed in the stewards decision with his 10 second penalty. and they gave him two penalty points as well.Â
will tried to also look on the bright side for sauber by saying they could have gotten their first points.Â
james was unimpressed by this take.
âiâm trying to out a spin on it, i just want them to get one point this season!â will said.Â
they then moved to feranndo alonso, commenting on the amount of pain that he was in at the end. âvery 2022,â james said. âhavent heard that in awhile, especially with the wetâ so it was definitely the track surface itself.Â
there was also a clip of fernando getting out of the car post race where he almost needed help from the mechanics.
and they were unimpressed with lance. âhe had the ability to get it onto the black and he drove it into the gravel.â
and nico, to them, very obviously got disqualified because he had help from the marshals, something he should have known would happen.
they agreed that it was a tough day for williams. especially losing a place to alpine in the championship.
ferrari also have a âtough dayâŠat the end of two brilliant gpsâ and charles was âkind of in no mans land today.âÂ
james agreed. he said they âjust never had that sparkâŠ.salvage what you can kind of weekend.â
âall good things just come to an end,â james said, realistically.Â
also on the not having a great day list was oscar. though he thought his penalty was deserved. âit was tricky,â he said. âjust trying to stay on track was difficult at some pointsâÂ
they also spoke with oliver oakes, the alpine team principal. âbig result today,â he said. âwe were confident [staying out] was the right chouse but we werent sure [about other peoples choices to stay out]. today is a bug result, doesnt chage what we are doingâŠ.gotta stay humble and keep pushing.âÂ
and alpine were definitely humble about their win
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but they also hula hooped in the trophy
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âi just want to say so many words but i need to calm down first,â pierre said. âunbelieveable, its historical for the teamâŠ.its been difficult..at the end of the day we never give upâŠno one thought one alpine could make it onto the podium this year and we made it twoâŠthere is so much to say but from p13 to p3 im so happy.âÂ
and esteban said âi don't know ig we are in reality right now it this is just a dreamâŠmy alarm rang this morning at 4:30 and we had no ideaâŠ.[ive kind of been] thinking when is my rime going to come, if we all had the same carâŠthe cars they level out in some tracks.â
and finally, we had max. âI was very frustrated in qualifying, but tried to use it as motivation in the raceâŠ.made all the right calls againâŠwas hoping for two points so this is amazing.â he was also asked how driven he was and he said âwe had moments, but after that quali where i knew we'd be fast, i nearly destroyed the entire garage. i was barely able to hold myself in. but i started the race very driven. i think i'm the best when i driven, i don't show it an awful lot, but usually yes.â
he was also asked about lando and he said that âif you look a few hours ago it was the other way aroundâŠthree hard races to go, we need to make no mistakes.âÂ
so turns out, after all that, maxâs quote from earlier in the weekend was correct. he is a three time world champion and he doesnt need to change how he drives.Â
this though was too much for the british media to handle and they didn't bother to show up to the press conference. which max called them out on.
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in the end, no one ended up getting penalties from the start and mercedes did not get disqualified. mercedes got fined 5000 euros for each car. and the stewards agreed that "The gate to access the grid was not immediately opened. The FIA accepted that given this short notice it was extremely difficult if not impossible for the teams to follow the procedure prescribed in the technical directive"
which meant. this was our current championship standings.Â
for the drivers
max verstappen: 393
lando norris: 331
charles leclerc: 307
oscar piastri: 262
carlos sainz: 244
george russell: 192
lewis hamilton: 190
checo perez: 151
fernando alonso: 62
nico hulkenberg: 31
yuki tsunoda: 28
pierre gasly: 26
lance stroll: 24
esteban ocon: 23
kevin magnussen: 14
alex albon: 12
daniel ricciardo: 12
ollie bearman: 7
franco colapinto: 5
liam lawson: 4
zhou guanyu: 0
logan sergeant: 0
valtteri bottas: 0
and the constructors
mcalren: 593
ferrari: 557
red bull: 544
mercedes: 382
aston martin: 86
alpine: 49
haas: 46
rb: 44
williams: 17
stake: 0
âfun to watch it all, cool to watch it all, but at the end of the day you have to congratulate max verstappen for another championship win,â james said. âby far most dominating performance of the year and one of the most ever.âÂ
âwe leave you with one message resonating louder than ever,â will said, staring directly into the camera. âmess with the bull, you get the horns. we will see you in las vegas.â
the 2024 formula 1 silly season and drama master post, part 2 (part 1 here)
Hello and welcome to ah fucking fuck auto caps fuck fuck fuck how do i turn off auto caps AHA there we go okay. take 2
hello and welcome to the great and very insane formula 1 2024 season drama post, part 2. if you are new here or are just looking for part one (which contains the previous 16 (?) races, the off season, pre season testing and everything else, that can be found HERE. (a word to the wise: open it in a browser, not the app, and preferably on a computer to avoid crashing. its fucking long).Â
what the hell is formula 1? car go fast. fastest cars in the world zoom around tracks at top speeds of over 300kph, piloted by the top 20 drivers in the world. it might not sound dramatic, but oh man. you will Not be disappointed. this post focuses on the drama, the insanity, the sheer what the hell how is this a serious sport. no legitimately. we've just about seen it all this year. grindr, dogs, watersports, ice cream brands, its all here.
the point of this post? to educate, to catalog the insane drama, and to just have a good time. people like to gatekeep this sport, there is also a lot happening. i try to make it easy to understand. again, probably best to start at the beginning of the post because it does a pretty good job of explaining things, which i began way back in january, and can be found HERE (again, shes long, be careful)
and, as usual, if you do not want to see this post EVER AGAIN, block the tag #saph explains silly season 2024
and a second caution, i assume this post will be getting long as well. including this one we have minimum 9 updates left!
anyway, those of you who have been following along the whole time, welcome back! i know we got a little delayed. and i know weâre on a new post, so lets just briefly take a second for me to explain what the fuck happened. first i had an anatomy test, second i work 2 jobs with fuck ass hours, third tumblr decided to stop letting me look at any of my drafts, fourth tumblr support ghosted me about the drafts issue and the post was half saving half not so i just decided fuck it, were going with post 2, electric boogaloo, and fifth, i decided to start typing this instead in a google docs so. many changes. if you're new here i am usually more on top of this.
but here we are. were back on street circuits. weâre in baku, azerbaijan, for the start of the last third of the season. 8 races remain, world championship titles are still within grasp of multiple people. the drama is dramaing. and today is september 22, 2024 and lets fucking go.Â
first and foremost, on account of the fact that this post is late (again, see above), were going to have to do a bit of a speed run. if you're new here, i promise that this is not representative of my normal dedication to the update post. and for those asking, yeah, ill probably compile it somewhere better than a tumblr post after its all said and done, but we don't have time for that now.Â
what we do have time for is the Off Week (and like some of the media stuff). and it was filled with silliness:Â
george russell decided to wear what can only be described as slightly ugly yellow short shorts with his taylor swift shirt that he got at the eras tour. this was baffling for several reasons, the main reason being that i don't think the internet knew that he was capable of wearing a graphic t shirt
fernando alonso got his aston martin valkyrie finally. in case you are unfamiliar, a valkyrie i think is the worlds fastest street legal car. he posted tweets about this that made it seem like he wanted to fuck the car. hilariously, the car broke down an hour later.
we also had the very thrilling conclusion to grill the grid. oscar won and he somehow managed to look more pleased about his grill the grid win than his first race victory.Â
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nico rosberg went to the green awards and he wore a fantastically insane teal blue suit. yes i know hes not a current driver. but you all like hearing about him so ask and you shall receive. unfornunately i cant find a picture of it though
and also not a current driver is mick schumacher, but my roommate asked me to include that he was seen on his girlfriends instagram being bad at golf. like. exceptionally bad at golf. like he hit a tree 20 feet in front of him.
also playing golf was lando norris. except he managed to look like try bolton from high school musical 2.
he also talked about the world driver championship with his friend max fewtrell while they were playing golf. unfortunately i lost this link in the sea of technical difficulties, but the gist of it was that he was saying that there is still hope for him to beat max in the championship (hes about 60 points behind right now). lando doesnt usually talk about the championship because he doesnt want news outlets to paint him as âdesperateâ so this was interesting
charles leclerc had an insane off week. first he rear ended someone in monaco. then he spoke at a yacht conference. he was not scheduled to speak at said yacht conference, he was there doing something else and they were like hey you're cool people know you, heres a microphone. he alsp ended up on a weather channel while promoting a karting event he was doing for the jules bianchi foundation (his god father, the one who died during the f1 race in japan 2014). he also changed his instagram pop and re centered it because some random tiktoker told him it matched his aesthetic better.
oscar piastri posted a photo of himself sitting in the cockpit of a plane and then promptly deleted it. because he posted it on 9/11. for anyone who doesnt know what that is, that was when some terrorists hijacked commercial planes and few them into the world trade centers in nyc and the pentagon in washington dc
max verstappen also posted a plane pic with himself and lando norris, but he did not delete it.
we also had the return of daniel ricciardoâs jpg instagram account, which is kinda like a finsta for photos that hes taken. i think lando started this a few years ago.Â
heading into the race week we certainly got a weird ass batch of pr. including but not limited to:
lewis hamilton was back on top and slaying in the fit game. as was yuki.Â
lewis hamilton also exposed george russell as listening to katy perry pre race. katy perry and taylor swift (this was after he claimed that he liked listening to old school rap music.) though, lewis then started singing wrecking ball???? confusing vibes all around
george was not off the hook yet tho because some intern definitely make him say skidibidi toilet or whatever the thing is idk, i might be gen z but im not insufferable, okay? actually george in baku was just all kinds of unhinged
george and alex also got up to something, what it is no one knows but it is clearly something
max pulled up to the paddock de aged about 10 years. picture one is of him in baku in 2015 (i believe he was 17) and picture 2 is this year. no i am not kidding.Â
and franco walked into the paddock telling everyone about argentinian mate (which is a drink, not a friend)
and max shoved a microphone out of the way so everyone could gossip
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then of course, we had some slightly more relevant drama
haas announced that ollie would be replacing kevin at baku. in case you forgot, kevin magnussen received a total of 12 penalty points over the season so far, which means he gets one race ban. how did he get the points? well he was mostly wreaking havoc on everyone else so that his teammate, nico hulkenberg, could drag his car into the points. lets all remember the time in saudi arabia where he managed to get 20 seconds of penalties by basically driving like a mad man just to make sure that nico could keep his position after he pit stopped. anyway, nico was kind of pissed about the race ban situation and said âmaybe the guidelines for F1 penalties need to be reviewed as the stewards âwant to get involvedâ no matter the contact.â
in any case though, k mags was out. and ollie was in. weâve seen ollie before. notably he subbed in for carlos sainz at the saudi arabia gp when carlos had appendicitis. he managed to get points as well. since then, he has been announced as a haas driver for 2025 and is now subbing in for k mags (haas, later in the week called him a super sub. clearly no gen z person read that over.) he can do this because ferrari has a haas engine so they share reserve drivers.
adrian newey finally got employed. i know! i can hardly believe it either! but he did! and youll never guess where!Â
ferrari? no that would be too obvious.Â
mercedes? nah
williams? no too much of a shit show
aston martin? ding ding ding! just the right amount of shit show!Â
that is right. newey is going to aston for 2025.Â
apparently he was offered a âgood packageâ according to himself, which i assume means pay and also the fact that lawrence stroll made him a shareholder? stakeholder? whatever its called. in the team itself. basically he has a lot of power.Â
he said that he always wanted to work with fernando and lewis. and he couldn't do both. and aston had a better package than ferrari.Â
fernando looked positively evil during all the announcement pictures. and called the team "definitely the team of the future" and for those of you who don't know, fernando is positively evil. hes just been stuck in a shit box and we havent seen very much of him, but man does he know how to evilly slut it up. so that will be fun to see.
by contrast, people said that lance was not excited enough. and well. lance 1. has resting bitch face and 2. never really looks excited about anything. also he lives in a world where take your child to work day somehow became his job. (his dad owns the team).
lewis hamilton was asked what he thought about adrian not going to ferrari, and here's what he had to say:
"i feel like, while I have mentioned before that it would be an honor to work with adrian, i have been privileged to work with two championship winning teams that didnt have adrian."
mclaren announced pato o ward would do FP1 in mexico. who is pato o ward? hes one of mclarenâs indycar drivers and one of the f1 reserve drivers. he is incredibly charming and definitely runs his own social media as seen here:
mclaren Also claim they figured out who their number 2 driver is and they claim its oscar. i say they claim because the statements were a lot more complex than that. essentially, according to andrea stella, the priority is to the team first, then lando and then oscar. so they didn't outright say that oscar is the number 2 driver and i am willing to bet real money that this is because mr mark webber, oscars manager, has something in oscars contract that prevents him from being a number 2 driver. this is of course because mark webber was one of the most infamous number 2 drivers in f1 history to none other than menace war criminal sebastian vettel, who in their time as teammates, managed to win 4 back to back world champions. or, top to bottom if you're mrs darbus from high school musical.Â
lando was asked about this and he said that yes, the team does support him. though he would not expect oscar to give up a win for him and that it is more complex behind the scenes. i suppose we will see if there are any papaya rules coming out this weekendâŠ.
and oscar said "i think the main point is its not purely just going to be me pulling over for lando every single race, because thats how none of us, including lando, wont want to go racing, if we feel that someone has done a much better job on a weekend, whichever way it is, we want that person to be rewarded."
max verstappen commented on the mclaren situation as well. which was funny mostly because red bull has one of the most defined number 1 and number 2 drivers of any team. he said "you look at it form oscar's perspective, he is closer to lando than lando to me. they have to deal with that."
and allow me to put on a tin foil hat as we are about to talk about the future of the red bull seat. because all i have to offer here is a baseball hat and a red bull can.Â
a long time ago we talked about the red bull cans. the ones that red bull makes to promote f1. at the end of last season red bull put max and checo on the red bull can. this season at the start it was just max on the red bull can. well. now checo has reappeared on the cans too. and i will tell you what i think this means. it means that checo is not getting swapped this season, which was a possibility for awhile.Â
but! there is more!Â
daniel ricciardo made an instagram post this week. and it was very interesting. but most interestingly he was wearing a red bull hat.
which he does occasionally, no big deal really. he did race for the for several years, he technically does currently. BUT then he showed up TO THE PADDOCK wearing the red bull hat.
which is Big Interesting. usually you show up in a statement outfit or wearing the team kit. and daniel is not a red bull racing driver. he is a visa cashapp racing bulls driver. they might be owned by red bull but they are Not the same team. so why the red bull hat. in the paddock. well, the rumor is that hes taking checos seat for 2025. and the rumor is that this will be announced before mexico. so checo can have a proper send off.Â
and with that. the baku lore.Â
theres a lot that has happened at baku. as i said its a street circuit. and i think its the fastest street circuit. but over the years theres been some notable events.Â
such as the great kimi raikkonen radio for gloves and steering wheel:
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they gave mini kimi this week gloves and steering wheel in honor of that
the max and daniel crash in 2018 when they were running p1 and p2 respectfully
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and of course. how could we forget. charlesâs infamous âi am stupidâ radio.
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speaking of charles, he crashed again in fp1. not quite in the same spot, but nearly. he took a picture with the marshalls.Â
then in fp2 he rage quit, basically saying that the car sucks.Â
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but he was back and better than ever in practice three because he managed to top the time charts. welcome back fuck ass ferrari.
some other teams definitely experienced the lows but not really the highs of baku during practice. like lance stroll who came on the radio to say âthis is not a carâ (good thing they have adrian newey now, right?Â
franco colapinto also cut his ear before practice on the neck strengthener stretcher thing that they all use and the team wanted to give him stitches but he was like no no no i need to be in the car in about 5 minutes im not doing that. so he jammed on his helmet and jumped in the car. he also crashed and when he went to the medical center he took off his helmet and there was blood everywhere and they were like no no no you cannot race! and he was like no! this is not from the crash! and then explained it and they let him do qualifying.Â
also im pretty sure? ollie bearman crashed? in practice? but frankly i don't have time to google it so whos to say.Â
but alas. qualifying.Â
i know i know this is kind of a shitty update. i promise ill go all out in singapore. i PROMISE.Â
so as i said. its a street circuit. high speed. 90 degree corners. and also windy as hell. we also had the dynamic duo of karun and harry in the commentary box.Â
max led the first practice, george led the second and i think charles led the third. or some order like that.Â
slipstream here is almost essential (slipstream: going behind another car to reduce the wind drag so you can go faster)Â
charles has the last three pole positions (first in qualifying) here in baku, but he has never won. by comparison, red bull have never had pole here but they have won.Â
and franco has never been to baku before.Â
i think that's all the exposition that we need here.Â
q1 started with max complaining about his car. âthe car is jumping around like crazy on the rear axleâ he said. despite this he was sitting in p3.Â
the mid field battle thoughâŠ.the mid field battle was heating the hell up. mostly because none other than franco colapinto, who if you will remember, has never been to baku before, had split the two ferraris. he was in third for the moment, .109 seconds behind carlos sainz and .159 seconds ahead of charles leclerc. we still had a lot of qualifying left to go, so this was probably not going to stay, but it was still insane. he was pushing insanely hard, nearly kissing the walls. clearly he had learned from his crash in practice.Â
the two mclarens waited until the very end of q1 to do their final flying push lap, and oscar made it through, but tragedy struck for lando.Â
lando was in the middle of his last flying lap, time was ticking down, and there was a Very Brief yellow flag on the track. now, according to rules, you cannot complete your flying lap if there is a yellow flag. so lando pitted and was stuck down in 17th and out of qualifying. this would be the first time that he was out in q1 since vegas last year (which if i remember correctly was also not his fault)Â
now though, of course nothing is ever that cut and dry. people thought that there had been a mis showing of a flag. yellow flag means that a car is stopped on track, white flag means that a car is going slowly on the track. and people thought that there had been a yellow flag shown when it was actually supposed to be a white flag (if there had been a white flag then lando would have been able to keep doing his flying lap) lando himself said that he had no idea what people were talking about because there is a light on the steering wheel that lights up when flags are called and he had a big yellow light. so it was clearly a yellow flag.Â
if you're concerned about lando being able to pull it out of the bag, id like to point you in the direction of the mexican gp last year where lando qualified 17th and finished 5th. on a track that was hard to overtake on. he can be absolutely insane when he wants to be. worry not gentle reader.Â
in any case. also out in q1 was daniel ricciardo, valtteri bottas, zhou guanyu and esteban ocon.
and notably, williams, who was on fucking fire this weekend as we already saw, finished q1 with alex albon in second (ahead of oscar) and franco colapinto in 8th. pierre gasly had somehow managed to also get into 4th. and nico hulkenberg was in 7th with ollie bearman in 13th. i told you the mid field battle was heating the hell up.Â
q2. everyone zoomed straight out of the gate. they didn't want to get lando norrisâd. but, speaking of that, if lando managed to get no points in the race and charles managed to win, charles would overtake lando in the drivers championship. mark webber himself told this to charles, who was absolutely baffled.Â
in any case, charles was kinda suffering right now and that was because he was not getting slipstream from carlos to make his lap faster. meanwhile, carlos seemed to be actively trying to give charles the slipstream because he came on radio to say âhe keeps missing the towâÂ
and amazingly, franco colapinto was 4 tenths AHEAD of alex albon. alex albon who had not been unqualified by his teammate once since the start of 2023. ex red bull driver alex albon. that alex albon.Â
max topped the times in q2, followed immediately by charles. insanely, fernando alonso managed to drag the aston martin to fifth. and franco was right behind him in 6th. by comparison alex albon was in 10th.Â
and from q2 we lost ollie bearman, yuki tsunoda (who has never qualified lower than 8th in baku), pierre gasly, nico hulkenberg and lance stroll. so yes, ollie bearman managed to outqualify nico hulkenberg. this is ollies second ever f1 race.Â
steaming on forward to q3.Â
we had, for review, in q3 the following:Â
both ferraris, both red bulls, both mercedes, both WILLIAMS (has not happened since vegas 2023), plus fernando alonso and oscar piastri.Â
right out the gate it was wild.Â
âred bull! theyve re found their mojo! or have they!â karun said. red bull were in 5th and 6th and not entirely sucking for the moment.Â
everyone did one flyer and then came out at the end for a second flyer.Â
here were the standings:Â
charles, carlos, oscar, george, checo, max, lewis, alex, franco, fernando
and everyone was making it to the line and all was going smooth until-
wait a second what is that
could it be! alex albon! with the air box fan still on his car! surely not!!!
oh but it was! and harry and karun were like oh wow so unfortunate for williams tisk tisk
meanwhile ted jumped on the radio to Loudly announce to everyone that this was insane and if i have time here i will put the rant he ranted cause it was Fantastic.
and what do you know i have time
so we had 3 minutes left qualifying and everyone was pulling out of the pits for their last flyer when oscar hopped on the radio to say
"the williams still has the air box fan in"
"oh what an error! disaster for williams!" karun and harry said. they speculated if the marshalls could get it or if the session needed to be red flagged. but alex threw the fan off the car.
and then they asked "ted have you ever seen that before?" and ted did not hold back:
"ITS A MASSIVE YELLOW FAN HOW COULD YOU MISS IT???!!! HOW COULD THE MECHANICS MISS IT???? I CANT BELIVE THEY WOULD MAKE SUCH A MISTAKE DOWN AT WILLIAMS! SUCH AN EXPERIENCED BUNCH OF GUYS AND GIRLS! WHAT IS GOING ON AT WILLIAMS OPERATIONALLY? HOW COULD YOU SEND A CAR OUT LIKE THAT?"
alex, obviously, got fined for an unsafe release 5k euros. he also had to throw the fan off to the side and got slightly covered in dry ice. he did not get to the a second flying lap.Â
franco did tho!
and here were out qualifying results:Â
p1: charles p2: oscar p3: carlos p4: checo p5: george p6: max p7: lewis p8: fernando p9: franco p10: alex p11: ollie p12: yuki p13: pierre p14: nico p15: lance p16: daniel p17: lando p18: valtteri p19: zhou p20: estebanÂ
oh ho ho but we werent done yet. because pierre gasly got disqualified from qualifying. for failing fuel flow regulations. and lewis was going to have to start from the pit lane for changing his power unit.Â
everyone, and by everyone i mean oscar max and checo, pretty much said that charles was going to get pole no matter what, they knew this coming in and the best they were trying for was second
onto the race.Â
notably, this is considered a checo track. this was one of the three races that max did not win last year. because checo won it. its a track that he does well on, evidenced by the fact that he qualified above max in qualifying. so people were expecting big things from him.
and so, we head into lap 1.
charles managed to hang onto the lead. checo passed carlos straight out of the gate for third and max managed to pass george to take fifth. lando had managed to get ahead of nico and up into 13th. notably, franco held onto 8th and ollie was able to hold onto tenth.Â
someone who was not doing well was lance stroll, who came on the radio saying that he had a puncture. this was from contact with yuki. lance had to pit for fresh tires and was pretty immediately thrown to the back of the grid.Â
by lap 2 lando had managed to get past daniel and was in 12th, he was trying to get past yuki next, which he managed by lap 3. yuki also lost a spot to nico.Â
also slaying in the mclaren was oscar, who took fastest lap. then charles took fastest lap.
and lewis hamilton, who had started from the pit lane, was up to 16th. already. somehow. though he was displeased with the tires, sayig that âthis tire is pretty badâ over the radio.Â
yuki meanwhile was clearly having a problem because he had started going very very slowly. thought the pit wall said that he had no problems. this would later turn out to be false but we will indulge them for the time being.Â
franco was STILL ahead of alex albon on lap 6. STILL.Â
lando on lap 8 managed to push his way into points positions, overtaking ollie bearman for 10th. though this was where things were about to slow down for him because in front of him were alex, franco and fernando, who were all very close together and would be hard to get past.Â
george was back in bad luck hell as a plastic bag entered his airbox. will he ever catch a break.Â
on lap 11 nico hulkenberg finally caught up with ollie bearman and passed him for 11th.Â
and maxâs car was not working. to potentially no oneâs surprise. âi have zero bite in the carâ he said. and this was probably true because checo was a whole 6.5 seconds ahead of him. insane gap.Â
several pit stops later that i will not detail out because we simply do not have the time, alex albon ended up in 4th and lando ended up in fifth. and oscar was about to get undercut by checo.Â
âmojo seems to be back for checo perezâ harry said, correctly.Â
mojo was back for him indeed. and now he was right behind lando.Â
and if you will recall, according to mclaren themselves, priority at mclaren is the team first, then oscar, then lando. but oscar was ahead of lando. so what did mclaren do?Â
they asked lando do hold up perez, but not compromise his own race.Â
remever a long time ago when i said mclaren wouldn't have any internal drama this season? man how i was wrong.
lando managed to hold up perez for around a lap or two before he got past. this was crucial because this was during when oscar was in the pits.Â
thanks to lando and the power of the papaya rules teamwork, oscar ended up coming out in 4th, only .706s ahead of checo.Â
mclaren are working together everyone! mclaren are working together!
meanwhile, turns out that yuki did indeed have problems because he retired on lap 17 with a hole in his sidepod from the contact with lance on lap 1. this was now two races in a row where he had had to retire for reasons out of his control.Â
several more people pitted. and eventually charles was back out in front, oscar was in p2. until he wasn't. no, he didn't dnf. he overtook charles! he was in p1! he popped out of nowhere! nowhere being 2 car lengths back and just flooring it to spring around charles like a little silly slinky! karun called it a âgood, fair and robust defense,â which sounds like its descibing notes in wine. but this was not wine. this was the baku gp. and we were only half done.Â
ollie bearman was defending against lewis hamilton, holding on tightly to 14th place.Â
charles was still behind oscar and he could not get past, despite the fact that he was still very much in spitting distance. âthey are pushing like crazy or they have more grip than usâ he said.Â
carlos got past both lando and alex albon and was up into 4th
this brought max up behind lando. max was on 11 lap old tires and lando was on 24 lap old tires. but lando still defended like hell and managed to hold onto sixth. max was 0.632 seconds behind lando on lap 25 when he said that âmy brakes are not working.â this was hardly a surprise. max has hated the car since china.
also experiencing technical difficulties was sir lewis hamilton. he was stuck down in 14th and was first told to do âeverything you can do to get the surface temp downâ of the tires. he said âim tryingâ then several laps later on lap 29 he came on the radio to say âare you seeing how i have to drive this thing?â âyes,â bono, his engineer said. âquite effective though.âÂ
max was still half a second behind lando. mclaren faked a pit stop call over the radio to get max to pit. he did not.Â
but, george russell did manage to pass him. which was ânot good for maxâs world champion aspirations.â
this was also when ted very bafflingly said that âif i had a sofa in the pit lane i would be jumping up and down on itâ im not sure what that was in response to.Â
meanwhile, ollie was still holding off sir lewis hamilton. and charles was trying to get oscar to pit again by lying over the radio. it was not working.Â
lando did a pit stop finally and came out a whole 15 second behind max. he was hoping to catch max by the end of the race. but it might be tight. lets go last lap lando.Â
âlando, imagine andrea on your shoulder saying âzero wheel spinâ in every exit,â landoâs race engineer said. if you're confused, everyone else was too.Â
10 laps to go and here were the order of affairs:
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+.449s charles +1.865s checo +2.989s carlos +16.530s george +1.909s max +11.535s lando +9.715s fernando +2.589s alex +2.451s nico +4.667s franco +1.590s lewis +1.261s ollie +1.791s pierre +9.205s daniel +23.919s esteban +.789s lance +3.862s valtteri +3.631s guanyuÂ
lando was determined. he took fastest lap on lap 43 and was 8.8s behind max
at this point, the leaders were starting to lap the cars in the back. âthe back markers are starting to come up,â checoâs engineer said to him. âits going to get messy.â
âhold onto your hats and if you don't have one go get one and hold onto itâ harry said. harry would turn out to be correct.Â
we had the top 3 all running very close to eachother, that was oscar, charles and checo and âwelcome to the party carlos sainz!â who was now 1.2 seconds behind checo in the four way battle for the lead.
definitely not leading was lance stroll, who retired on lap 47 with a brake problem.Â
oscar managed to pull ahead of charles by 1.5 seconds, finally knocking him out of DRS range. so now it was a three way battle for second. and charles had âno rear tires. no rear tires at all.âÂ
and, just like i said he would, lando managed to pass max on lap 49. he was closing the gap slowly in the championship.Â
âverstappenâs day goes from bad to worse,â harry said. because lando still had fastest lap, so he would score 3 more points than max. which is important if lando wants to beat max in the championship (though i think hes still like 60 points behind)
meanwhile! franco managed to pass nico hulkenberg for 10th! he was in the points!!!! at his second race!!!Â
but this was short lived because there was a crash! a big smackeroo! between carlos and checo!! checo was mad, carlos didn't know what happened.Â
what happened was that carlos was trying to pass checo but checo did not move over. it was deemed an equal fault accident. both of them were utterly confused at what happened and apparently spent 20 minutes in the medical center being utterly lost and aparently saying that sometimes this sport sucks. and! contrary to what several people said! checo did not bang on carlosâs helmet after the crash.Â
the crash actually caused chef's dad to have a heart attack. he is stable now.
and well. this clip of george from the post qualifying interviews definitely didnt age well:
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but! since we were a matter of a few laps from the end, this meant that the rest of the race was finished under a virtual safety car.Â
which meantÂ
OSCAR PIASTRI WINS THE AZERBAIJAN GP
and george inherited p3!Â
and on his own merit too! no safety cars, no team orders, no weird shit!Â
âyes!â he whispered over the radio.Â
he almost fell getting out of the car, then gave us all the âone momentâ hand gesture before properly celebrating.Â
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he also got driver of the day!Â
(this was marginally better than george russell, who said over the radio âi cant get any rubber (to pick up on his tires) all im getting is leavesâ)
gunther steiner also hosted the post race interviews. which was interesting.Â
george said that the most difficult part of the race was âdriving full gas into a wall of carbon fiber on the penultimate lapâŠthe vsc should have come out soonerâÂ
charles bashed ferrari because they didn't do any high fuel runs in practice.Â
oscar was entirely pleased. âi managed to overtake and hold onto it for the next 35 laps..one of the better races of my career.â and honestly, oscar winning a race straight after mclaren basically announcing that he was their number 2 driver is nothing short of hilarious.
and! mclaren was now leading the constructors championship by 20 points! for the first time in ten years!!!!
the top three had a moment outside of the car that was filled with baffled:Â
and oscar's engineer tom got to stand on the podium with him. he usually takes a selfie with oscar after each race he podiums at, but he was too excited to so george took this picture for them
(george also aparently demomished oscar in a game of uno on the plane, immediately humbling him)
george also shielded himself from the champagne on the podium
the cooldown room reacted to the crash in a very straight forward manner:
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and very quickly cause its midnight and the singapore gp starts in 8 hours, the post race, speed ran:Â
-mark webber told off laura winter for thinking that oscar didn't have good tire management
-alex albon was âsuper happy, that's a lot of points for usâ (williams finished in 7th and 8th). he cut his own interview short when ollie bearman arrived, saying âI can go, im happy to goâ and then waving comically.Â
-williams was so pleased with this result they blasted everyone with champagne. and they overtook alpine in the constructors championship! this was also their best race finish all season
-(and a quick note, if youre going to really blame logan for being that shit of a driver here, please remember that the car he was driving was several rounds of upgrades behind alex's pretty much the entire time he was driving it)
-ollie became the first driver to ever score points in his first two races for two different constructors because the double dnf pushed him up to 10th place. he said that there was not much difference between the haas and the ferrari, the ferrari was just red
-franco continued to charm everyone and flirt with the reporters.Â
-they interviewed george and lewis and the camera had to be adjusted for george's height. it was comical and resulted in my favorite edit so far of the season (sound on)
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-lando looked pleased and happy for once. he said about holding off checo that âi didn't hold him up i just had to cool my tires a little.â he was delighted to be leading the constructors for the first time in ten years and he defended alex albon saying âi struggled to get past alex for a while, which is common, alex doesnt make mistakes.â he also ratted on max for going to fast during the VSC and said âi didn't complain, facts were stated.â and to sum it all up he said that âim executing things well, iâm very quickâŠiâm not going to be the happiest guy, but i am never the happiest guyâŠ.car is performing well everywhereâŠsome red cars behind us seem to be our biggest competitors right nowâÂ
-by comparison george insulted all of pirelli. the tire people. âpretty infuriating that it (the pace) changes this so muchâŠ.its black magic, people who make the tires don't understand the tiresâŠ..for 20 laps we had a car not worthy of points and for 20 laps we had a car fighting for victory and the only difference is the tires.âÂ
-lewis was notably upset after the race and walked through the paddock with his helmet on, not wanting to talk to anyone. but he did talk to franco and ollie and congratulate them on a job well done defending against him and racing against him. franco even fangirled over this on his instagram.Â
-charles was clearly upset with ferrari. he was so upset he posted a thirst trap.
-and oscar. oscar was very happy this afternoon. and his mom was there! she doesnt usually come cause it scares her, but nicole was there today!Â
-mclaren celebrated with a hell of a lot of champagne. both oscarâs wina and landoâs insane recovery, and the fact that they were leading the championship. red bull have been dethroned, at least for now.Â
-there was so much champagne that lando took off his socks to spray it. all seems well at mclaren.Â
-at least one thing is for sure, oscar had a better time here this weekend than last year when he got food poisoning and only ate four pieces of toast
and with that. we head into singapore. quite literally as it is starting in a few hours. again, i apologixe about this post. its a little sad, but the next one will be better. pinkly promise.Â
see you all soon!!!
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Jude chapter 3 silly but kinda detailed summary
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kate successfully completes sortin out letters so she heads to the port where jude is talking with the foreman. its there she sort of thinks back on her time at raven co and the long and short of it is that jude, as the ceo, is actually really outstanding, and he acknowledges the efforts of those who work hard, produce results and whatnot, and rewards them in turn.
(that said he could work on his wording ,,)
time skip to night after judes done and they all walkin back tgt where kates like âi think iâll be able to have a good dinner todayâ and jude scoffs at her callin her a twit. and shes all defensive like hey whats wrong with wanting to eat good food and judes like when did i say that was wrong?
all of a sudden they stop in their tracks and jude tells kate âon the count oâ three, crouchâ and kates all panicked like tf is going on but jude already starts counting down so she crouches anw (in a panic!)
some guy in a suits out to kill jude. god knows who too bc apparently jude donât know him either đ
Jude: Who are ya? Canât say ya look familiar.
[ insert some lines im lazy to tl ]
Jude kicked up at the manâs chin, causing the manâs body to do one smooth flip before collapsing onto the ground.
Man in a suit: Jude⊠Jazzaââ!
Jude: Nâ like I was sayinâ, who the hell are ya?
ok turns out jude does remember him in the end, its just another dude who broke his contract with jude and was selling up some illegal drugs and whatnot.
Jude: I told ya, didnât I? That if ya breach your contract Iâd show ya so much oâ hell youâd wish you kicked the bucket?
J: I fulfilled that promise for ya. Havinâ a grand old time in hell, arenâtâcha?
omg he pried open the wound on the mans face and he let out a cry to the night sky that could shake anyoneâs soul silly.
kate then thinks or foreshadows (yk how like ikevil stories r kinda told like kate is recalling the past? like âi didnât realize it then, but xyzâ kinda like one of those moments) that what she witnessed that night was but a prologue of whatâs to come bc they get attacked over and over again.
kate and jude get into another argument like âi feel im gonna die every time! im at my limit!â and judes like âwell ur in the way loiterin round like thatâ then jude just yeets off w/o listenin to another word.
she does feel something bothering her tho
(For someone like Jude, he should be able to avoid these grudgesâŠ)
When I thought this, I came up with a theory that relieved me of this unsettling feeling.
(âŠCould it be heâs making himself an enemy of many on purpose?)
âYeah, right,â was what I thought, but also, somewhere in my heart, I felt such a theory may also be true.
shes like thereâs not enough info rn but if i do know anything its that
Kate: At this rate, if I stay with Jude any longerâŠa hundred lives would not be enough!
and so shes like i gotta learn self defense! so she goes knocking on a certain someoneâs door like pls teach me le jutsu of self defense!
Ellis: Okay. ïŒâčâĄâčïŒâĄ
turns out ellis was also thinking of teaching her some stuff abt self defense soon.
so ellis takes kate to the lobby and kates like why the lobby and ellis goes to a bookshelf to take out a book which actually reveals vics weapon collection and takes out a gun, telling kate to try and hold it.
idk if this is a real gun or not (as in it exists irl), apparently its made of silver with a wooden grip.
ellis thinks its well suited for kate. like its lightweight yk. hes like you may need to use it jic. and then hes like
Ellis: But, itâs kind of refreshing.
E: Other than me, Jude seems pretty adverse to putting people by his side.
E: So, maybe he wants to get along with you?
kates like mmm doubt but at the same time she has this question in her mind w/o an answer of why he went and wrote a whole contract and let her stay by his side then? shes abt to cook up a theory in her head whenâŠ
just then jude comes in.
Ellis: AhââJude.
Jude: We got a job to do.
so they head off to some noble mansion.
Jude: How do ya do, weâll be here a while.
Nobleman: Ah, Mister Jude?
apparently this nobleman is connected with the guy in the suit jude beat up in the beginning of the chptr. he made him spit out info.
Jude: If ya just were sellinâ somethinâ shady Iâd let that off the hook. Illegal drugâs some childâs play.
J: However.
Jude raised one leg and rested it atop the long table.
Jude: I seem to recall the contract prohibitinâ the sellinâ and buyinâ of humans, or am I wrong?
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hello i was tagged by @18minutemajor for WIP Wednesday. it is not Wednesday but i am also not a cop so . here we gooo!!!!!!! tagging my esteemed colleagues (very politely and with no pressure!!!):
@neonfretra @oensible @sorrellegiance @moregraceful @stereax
@wheelsnipecelebrini
@korshrimpski (EDIT: it wonât?? let me tag you. unless these are on separate lines <3)
what's in-progress in your life <3 writing? art? recipe? skill acquisition?
if any crafty people see this - if ANYONE sees this - and would like to join in, feel free and consider yourself tagged <3 (and tag me back so i can see your stuff!!!) link to 18minutemajor's post if yall curious :3 my VERY long wip dump + ramblings under the cut!
its christmas soon and i like to paint gifts for my friends + and i'm finally revisiting my anime/lineart/inking era (here you are K!! my lineart past, present, and future!! <3) so here are some things i've been working on/coming back to/MAY NEVER FINISH: hockey related:
this is juraj slafkovsky and his dinky little middle part which he can absolutely learn to style into something a little less dinky but never does. i am so charmed by him. i imagine he just rocks it because his pretty privilege supersedes dinky middle parts . LMAO!!
here is Sasuke from my Naruto Hockey AU. I am a little stuck on jersey mockups lol. here he is. our haunted little 1OA who is absolutely normal and regular about his captain (LOUD incorrect buzzer):
personal oc art
wanna know some puckpocketed deep lore? i've never been one to make OCs. i was just not a very creative kid tbh. spent all my time drawing sailor moon instead. i still go back to her sometimes because she is one of my favourite shapes in the WORLD!!
in my 20s i took up playing d&d because of the. uh. plague. <3 and got pretty close to having OCs!! those count right? anyway. here is my tavern-wench-turned-wizard!!! i think i painted this 2 years ago? <- put dates on your works guys it saves lives. her name is Mel (short for Melins (pronounced like melons. on account of her knockers. can you tell i never grew out of my 12 yr old booby/cock joke era?) i revisited Mel recently and have started painting her in earnest again!! :3
I briefly dated someone who was very into streetwear and fashion, and I fell down a techwear/gorpcore/cyberpunk rabbit hole for a couple days out of curiosity. i remember literally zero salient info on any of it except the broad strokes of silhouetting and Vibes. what i emerged with, however, was a ?? sorta OC?? im not sure what to call them. they dont rly have a name or gender. I did this little sheet ages ago + the aborted attempt at a portrait later:
Here are my most recent explorations (i have been doing SOOOO much art. <3) which include:
unfinished character sheet + chibi art. I played with their jacket (much more structured/square/tailored thing) and added a lotta random buckles and belts. i took textiles class years ago and have a little experience in garment construction. and i know for a fact this thing does not make any sense. it hurts me to look at a little bit LMAO so i've paused it while i go draft patterns (badly. i was never good at drafting. i think i may have to break out my scrap fabric stash and hand sew a real life mock-up. HELP!)
here is me having fun with them and imagining them as some kind of cyber-fisherman. the best part of every game is the fishing mini-game to me. i love fishing mini-games so much. I made their hair really big because i wanted them to have big unwieldy hair and the vibes told me i should add more movement to the piece aside from the fishing line. I messed with their jacket AGAIN because i can't stop thinking about what kinda jacket they'd wear. gorp-core ? idk. it sure is something!
gifts for my friends :3
back in my weeb era for real YAYYYY!!! up til now i'd been making hockey art using a zero pressure sensitivity pen brush because i simply did NOT want to deal with that. it is and has always been a barrier to me making art that uses line art. <3 easing my way back into it though!
I used to paint gifts for my friends and then get them printed into lil posters and mount them on nice backing :3 i am now ready and back to painting.
Here is my girlbestie's OC. just a rough pose sketch. i think im pretty unsatisfied with the gesture of the head/hand. i wanted to include her gun in some way. i fear i may have to rework the pose entirely <3
For the genshin girlies.. here are some of my friends fave characters.
Yelan - this one i started many holidays ago and put on the backburner because the colouring was wigging me out. you can see where i started rendering stuff + got sidetracked and started on something else (the crystal choker IM LAUGHING @ past me...)
Ayaka - I reaaally like what i did here with the perspective + foreshortening. I don't know if the pose or expression is in-character or not, but i had fun :3 got stunlocked looking at references of genshin weapons so this is where i left off:
if you made it all the way down here hi... <3 ice hockey really cracked the ketchup bottle open for me when it comes to making art again. i love the communities i've found, and i'm inspired by every artist on here every day. thanks for being so cool + have a great day :)
#hiiii... late with starbucks (gigantic wip dump now i feel good about sharing again)#puckpainting#tag game#eye contact#the . the tag thingy for half of these aint working HELP <3
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hi tumblr user if-you-soul i need to preface this by saying i was actually discussing the god awful mischaracterization this fandom inflicts on HMS with my besties & opened tumblr to look for your reblog of that soul fanart saying "YOU fell for the character's facade that was meant to be dismantled by the viewer!" & got hit w this & it MADE MY DAY. i fucking love this album to death & im a soul fictionkin so these things drive me up a fucking wall
cccc is pretty straightforward while also being purposefully vague & left up to interpretation in many areas but soooo many people take interpretation to twisting the narrative until its no longer what it was & it makes me ask myself did we listen to same tracks here?? where are yall getting these things from???? this got rly fucking long so im adding a cut here voilĂĄ
when people talk abt the mischaracterization in the fandom its usually focused on heart & mind so im INSANELY glad to see someone talk abt the soul shit. cause what kinda crack are people on?? he never threatens to harm h&m except for at the end of TSE where he is... having a mental breakdown? have people forgotten what it's like to have a breakdown??? you say shit you dont mean bc you're splitting at the seams & falling apart. there is no point in the entire album where soul is portrayed as manipulative/entitled/evil/violent/abusive/erratic, which are descriptions a surprisingly large amt of ppl seem to subscribe to? HE'S A VICTIM !!!! & im so glad you said it! i too have been in a kind of middleman position to parties fighting with each other & its insanely detrimental to one's mental health & had me at an incredibly low point so yeah TSE feels deeply personal to me & soul's character in general (waves in soul kin again LMAO), drives me bonkers how ppl describe him.
mind WISHES he was unfeeling. heart calling him an automaton freak doesnt mean he doesnt feel! it means that he just PUSHES AWAY & REPRESSES EMOTION, or at least tries to. like one has to really emphasize that everything between the heart acoustic & the soul eclectic has mind clearly displaying rage & bitterness & all kinds of emotions. even the end of TME says "maybe my existence might be by design, a simple fact that he'll refuse to see" like bro says its a maybe & then immediately claims its a fact yall are falling for his facade so hardcore its not even funny atp. the way people treat heart is borderline gross, he is NOT an uwu baby innocent boy that doesnt know anything & ppl infantilize him so much idek why. heart represents emotion- ALL emotions. & you're right! emotions are so fucking draining & exhausting at times, especially if you're mentally ill! all this weird portrayal of evil mind & innocent heart is so ?? can i quote TSE with neither is wrong yet neither is right. all 3 of them are neither good nor evil. they're people. they're human. the album really emphasizes this a lot.
the juno incident & RoE in general is made to be a much bigger deal by the fandom that it really is. applies to more than one thing in cccc but RoE takes the cake tbh. & yeah! whole is an entirely fanon thing lololol like im pretty fucking sure even chonny jash has said this someway or another. what we call whole is literally just...chonny. i think ppl took dream's "when harmonia shines, atlas beholds her" & RAN. & honestly i like whole hcs but this brings me to another thing: i really feel like cccc fans come up with so many hcs & interpretations for the album that they forget what the canon is in favor of their fanon. there's so much shock gore & gore in general for lowkey no reason in here </3 its so much & for what. fanon is awesome like everyone should be free to do whatever but i do wish ppl would Remember Canon a bit more & separate their hcs from it more. along with the gore. where are yall getting all this insane amount of gore & violence from. i feel like any violence alluded to in the album is more metaphorical than it is physical bc emotions can be felt violently. internal violence. the album is abt the never ending cycle of mental illness getting better & then getting bad again & so forth as a natural part of life & accepting yourself in those moments.
tl;dr u r so correct & i couldnt agree more & you've voiced the way i've felt abt this fandom for ages we lost the fucking plot & kept running anyways lets pause & find it again thank you so much for sharing ur yapsesh with us
Mischaracterization in the CCCC fandom: a yapsesh (alternative title: Erm... What the Gore is Going On?)
Hi. Woaw. I'm actually making that post I talked about.
So. One thing I've noticed in the CCCC fandom is this weird fixation on gore, torture, violence, etc. Usually a level of graphic content that makes your average horror flick look... pretty tame!
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy horror! I even think a horror story based around psychological conflict similar to CCCC could work well!
But is it just me, or has this fandom COMPLETELY lost track of what the characters are like in the source material?
Like. Let's be real. Nowhere in the album does Soul do gruesome surgeries on Mind, nowhere does Mind go ripping people to shreds like Doomguy, et cetera. The closest thing we have to an implication of violence is what most of us call the "Juno incident"- as even "tines stabbed through eyes" is clearly a metaphor with the next line: "that the sides have condemned."
Im gonna talk ab the characters themselves under the cut
I feel the biggest victim of this mischaracterization is Soul. In the album he's... kind of a victim, really. He toughs out being dismissed and fought over and pushed aside and outright dehumanized for so, so long. Are we seriously just... going to characterize him based solely on his lowest point in TSE? Spring and a Storm and Mucka Blucka are also songs where he's present- along with his presence in Just Apathy that the fandom seems to outright deny to keep their characterization of him as some violent, abusive monster. (Which, again, is quite literally never alluded to! He's honestly kind of a victim, if anything!)
Ohhkay. Next topic. Mind. Oh boy I have thoughts on how people characterize Mind.
He's not emotionless. If you believe this, you've fallen for his stoic facade. All of his songs are just. So full of so much rage. Maybe even a little bit of grief and sadness and fear, masked by said rage. He isn't some emotionless robot- (Heart calls him an automaton as an insult, but that's another rant.) and honestly it feels like such a disservice to such an interesting character with so much unexplored depth to portray him as such.
Heart. Oh boy. Where do I start. Heart what did they do to you.
Heart is the emotional side, yes, but that isn't just some... smol innocent uwu baby who cries all the time. Emotions aren't small and cute and timid. They're INTENSE and PASSIONATE and EXHAUSTING. Strong emotions leave you so, so drained, good OR bad. This is so much more interesting than portraying him as some "uwu hai dere!!" type of character. Which is nowhere in the album.
Whole is hardly even a character. Soul worshipping and praying to whole is fanon.
This fandom's weird obsession with creating shock gore and one-upping each other in a violence competition has spiraled pretty far out of control, and it's honestly crazy. How do you go from an album about internal conflict to violence that would make even the cast of Resident Evil cringe? Brah.
Final notes uhhh. Soul is a victim who got pushed to his limit, not an evil heartless abuser. Mind is angry and unstable and hurt, not some emotionless robot. Heart is the entire emotional spectrum, not some innocent baby. Ok i . I think that's all. Have a good one
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What is the PR disaster in question that made Rick announce TSATS? I wasnât active in the online fandom at that point
Of course! This was awhile ago so it figures people don't remember it/aren't familiar:
Basically a couple years back (2020) the fandom had some posts circulate discussing the ways different characters in the Riordanverse were written poorly or offensively. There was a masterpost that went around tumblr but the two major points people were particularly focusing on were Piper and Samirah (particularly because Piper had featured prominently again in Trials of Apollo recently and the third MCGA book had further emphasized and discussed Samirah being Muslim, since it was supposed to take place during Ramadan). Basically each had multiple posts breaking down the ways they were depicted incorrectly or offensively. The entire fandom for a little bit was VERY intensely discussing this (and it's around this time the "RR crit" tag got very popularized on tumblr - it did exist before, but suddenly was being used VERY frequently - cause it was that wide-spread - though the discussion took over basically every side of Riordaverse social media on different platforms). People really wanted Rick to respond to these criticisms, so he did!
He made two blog posts, one about Piper and one about Samirah. He has since deleted both so the links are to archived versions. The short version: he essentially tried to justify his poor research and double-down that he hadn't written them offensively, actually, people were just being mean to him. The fandom, of course, reacted poorly to this.
[Further elaborated events under the cut since this got a bit lengthy]
(Fun fact, this all happened within a month or so of the time i posted an open letter on aphobic tropes in the Riordanverse that Rick replied to, and then he immediately followed with announcing that Reyna was intended to be ace-coded [which cause a LOT of fandom debate] before Rick dipped for a couple of weeks, and then came back to post the blog posts in response to Piper and Sam stuff. So I like to jokingly refer to this as "The time I imploded the fandom/drove Rick off of twitter." Twas I that set the house ablaze.)
Rick fully left social media after this and the LT Musical social media manager became Rick's social media manager for the time being.
So this all happened June/July of 2020. Tower of Nero would end up being published in October of 2020 and a few months after that Rick would state that he was done with the series and wouldn't be writing any more series installments involving Percy, and also that he wouldn't be writing a Nico quest following Tower of Nero as it "wasn't his place to" and encouraged the community to write their own versions of Nico's story.
The community continued to circulate the tumblr posts and discuss the topics of Rick's offensive character depictions, and this is also where we see the dramatic shift in how the fandom depicts Piper in fanwork (though in most cases it is admittedly not an improvement đŹ) because of all this discussion. This is also around the time when the fandom brought Viria under scrutiny claiming that she was whitewashing Piper as part of the same discussions, through the justification that she was drawing Annabeth as having tan skin (which she does canonically), and if Annabeth has tanner skin then Piper then that's whitewashing Piper? Except they were using completely separate images of not fully rendered Piper art versus Annabeth in dramatic lighting, so it's all very awkward and poor logic, and did actually get kind of racist. A lot of people were calling it "Tannabeth Blackchase" (yeah, i know) or similar and a common sentiment you'd see repeated is "Don't draw Annabeth as having darker skin than Piper, because that's offensive/racist/whitewashing." (Note: it was not phrased "don't draw Piper as having lighter skin than Annabeth" - we also won't get into certain offensive depictions of Native Americans, but I digress). But yeah, the Annabeth stuff in all that did not age well at all.
Anyways, in October of 2021 however Rick would announce that he was co-writing The Sun And The Star - with a lot of heavy emphasis on how Mark Oshiro works as a sensitivity reader, and some false advertising from the official social media that Mark Oshiro was the first time a non-Riordan author would be collaborating on the series (disregarding the ghostwriters completely). One of the big criticisms in the breaking down of issues in Rick's writing was his lack of ever seeking a sensitivity reader, and fans claiming that a sensitivity reader could solve a lot of the problems. This was basically Rick's "look! I totally listened!!!!" (though it did little to actually improve things, based on the book) and in TSATS as well Piper gets a large cameo at the end where the text very directly addresses a lot of points made in criticism of Rick's writing of her.
We also then of course got the CoTG trilogy later, explicitly stated to be for advertising purposes for the show.
So basically, short version: Rick came under scrutiny for a lot of offensive writing within the span of two months, made some bad blog posts doubling down about it, left social media. TOA ends. Rick says he wasn't going to continue the series/write what would become TSATS. Community celebrates the end of of the franchise but also continues to discuss Rick's poor writing and the blog posts at length. Rick suddenly announces TSATS and Mark Oshiro's involvement. Everybody gets distracted from being mad. Show announcement stuff also happens and the discussions peter out.
#pjo#riordanverse#fandom history#rick riordan#rr crit#ask#boywithskull#anonymous#long post //#fun times fun times#im always amused by the bit where i come in. like oh yeah i played a major part in the middle of all of this#i didnt mean to but i was the beginning of the end#maybe thats why this book is my personal hell. its in direct retribution#its really weird though because Rick did not usually reply to people on twitter but he responded to my open letter WITHIN HALF AN HOUR#within half an hour of me posting it he replied and then rapid-fire replied to like two or three other random tweet questions#at which point he confirmed he wrote Reyna with her being alloromantic ace-coded in mind (''but you dont have to agree'')#(i should note also - rick's reply plus the ensuing tweets HEAVILY implies he did NOT actually read my open letter. lmao.)#dipped off twitter for a couple of weeks. came back to post his blog posts responding to criticism about Piper and Sam#and then left social media completely. people kept talking. oh look new book pspspsp. look show pspspsp.#but so. yknow. i did that. it was ME!!!!!! and i will never let him forget. i know what he did.#i will never let him live down shitty PR move to try and sweep those bad blog posts under the rug
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*sigh* thoughts on Nintendo's botw/totk timeline shenanigans and tomfoolery?
tbh. my maybe-unpopular opinion is that the timeline is only important when a game's place on the timeline seriously informs the way their narrative progresses. the problem is that before botw we almost NEVER got games where it didn't matter. it matters for skyward sword because it's the beginning, and it matters for tp/ww/alttp (and their respective sequels) because the choices the hero of time makes explicitly inform the narrative of those games in one way or another. it matters which timeline we're in for those games because these cycles we're seeing are close enough to oot's cycle that they're still feeling the effects of his choices. botw, however, takes place at minimum 10 thousand years after oot, so its place on the timeline actually functionally means nothing. botw is completely divorced from the hero of time & his story, so what he does is a nonissue in the context of botw link and zelda's story. thus, which timeline botw happens in is a nonissue. honestly I kind of liked the idea that it happened in all of them. i think there's a cool idea of inevitability that can be played with there. but the point is that the timeline exists to enhance and fill in the lore of games that need it, and botw/totk don't really need it because the devs finally realized they could make a game without the hero of time in it.
#i really do have a love-hate relationship with this timeline#because it's FASCINATING lore. genuinely. and i think it carries over the themes of certain games REALLY well#but i also think it's indicative of a trend in loz's writing that has REALLY annoyed me for a long time#which is this intense need to cling to oot#and on a certain level i get it. that was your most successful game probably ever. and it was an AMAZING game.#and i think there's definitely some corporate profit maximization tied up in this too--oot was an insane commercial success therefore you'r#not allowed to make new games we need you to just remake oot forever and ever#and that really annoys me because it makes certain games feel disjointed at best and barely-coherent at worst.#i think the best zelda games on the market are the ones where the devs were allowed to really push what they were working with#oot. majora. botw. hell i'd even put minish cap in there#these are games that don't quite follow what was the standard zelda gameplay at their time of release. they were experimental in some way#whether that be with graphics or puzzle mechanics or open-world or the gameplay premise in its entirety. there's something NEW there#and because the devs of those games were given that level of freedom the gameplay really enforces the narrative. everything feels complete#and designed to work together. as opposed to gameplay that feels disjointed or fights against story beats. you know??#so I think that the willingness to allow botw and totk to exist independently from the timeline is good at the very least from a developmen#standpoint because it implies a willingness to. stop making shitty oot remakes and let developers do something interesting.#and yes i do very much fear that the next 20 years of zelda will be shitty BOTW remakes now#in which botw link appears and undergoes the most insane character assassination youve ever seen in your life#but im trying to be optimistic here. if botw/totk can exist outside the timeline then we may no longer be stuck in the remake death loop#and i'm taking eow as a good sign (so far) that we're out of the death loop!! because that game looks NOTHING like botw or oot.#fingers crossed!!#anyway sorry for the game dev rant but tldr timeline good except when it's bad#asks#zelda analysis
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SIR JAMES
#mmmmmheeeehoehoheoheo#inscryption#james cobb#lonely wizard#this is Part one for sure i am drawing more james pertaining to his story#but ohhh i adore him he's so fun to play around with#the tights were a placeholder design but it reminded me of ballet dancers so im like why not! he can dance#its a form of art! it pertains to body expression!#and he wants his body to reach an ideal form that he is positive his Master will grant him!#and now we know where the lonely wizard learned ballet. thank you#normally i dont like showing the eyes of a char who wears a helmet or mask but Amber kinda fills that niche in this game for me#and i really wanted to show off ruby mox eyes lol. and he has a beautiful face#i have a lore reason why he looks so similar to her but these tags are too long for now. goodbye#sorry for the trilliax quote
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okay so you said genuine question and im not from around here but i do have an answer! so you've unlocked an unskippable cutscene!
this is a much bigger topic than it appears on the surface, and i might be able to answer your question succinctly and briefly, but it would miss out on a lot of the stuff happening behind the scenes which is actually very important!
since this is going to be quite long (I did a rough notes on my thoughts and what i might say and it was almost 1k. so.) i am going to put the rest under a readmore
but now that you've clicked the button and commited, let's break this into parts for both our sakes.
part 1: moral purity and the loss of 'squick'
so there's been a fun phenomenon happening lately online, and it's the idea that you can assign morals by the type of things that someone likes. that the act of enjoying something or disliking something is an inherently moral act.
this in itself has a lot of reasons behind it, and digging through that history would be an essay in its own right, so im going to glaze over it. but the current state of affairs is that your own personal taste, be it in media, in people, or yes, sexual thoughts (even ones without actions) are in themselves, moral.
no matter the cause of these feelings, the outcome is this: if you find yourself liking or disliking something, there must be some reason behind it. if you find yourself grossed out by something, there is a moral and justifyable reason behind it.
this is, to me, related to the loss of the idea of a 'squick'; something that just grossed you out. 'squicks' didnt have to be triggers, they didnt have to be evil or harming you, they were a preference about something you just personally did not like.
now however, along with other terms, we have lost the idea of a 'squick' and so if you don't like something there must be a reason this thing is evil.
so now you have people seeing things like animal packers, and they are for some reason uncomfortable with them. where we might have once said 'oh well, not for me', we must now have a reason for why we are uncomfortable with this idea.
1.5: the perpetrator and the victim
in any given situation, to prevent discourse from becoming muddied or hard to answer, there must always be a person who is definitively in the right, and a person who is in the wrong.
this is a really normal reaction, it's hard to accept something as not having a clear answer, and so it's easy to find ourselves doubling down on something so we dont have to confess to the worst thing of all 'i dont know'.
Coming from disability advocacy, it's important to recognise that there are going to be situations which are not clear cut, in which nobody has done anything wrong, but people have ended up hurt or upset. sometimes needs and people are simply incompatible, and there's nothing wrong or evil there.
but that is difficult and scary, so instead it's much easier to talk about the victim and the villain. if someone is being hurt (i am looking at something that grosses me out) then someone must be intentionally hurting them (evil gross kinksters)
In this understanding of things, the discomfort itself must be harm done, and if harm is being done, then someone must be at fault. it becomes a matter of who is the perpetrator and who is the victim. So in order for them to be uncomfortable and not be evil themselves, the thing that is making them uncomfortable must be evil itself.
now that we've established these things we can actually get around to answering the actual question you asked:
Part 2: why zoophillia?
if this person has deemed the act that these people have done to be evil or bad, why not just call the act itself (which i am given to understand is hyper-realistic animal packers?) evil?
well what you surely understand, and somehwere in the back of their brain they understand, is that that's incredibly fucking stupid.
if you walk up to the average person and say hey, this person is doing this evil thing, and explain that, theyre going to think you're insane. so how are they supposed to tell the average person that this person is evil? they escelate it to most awful acusation they can think of in the moment.
in most communities, the terrible thing that they will accuse someone of is pedophillia, but in the therian circles, they dont need to escelate it to that point, because there is already a hot button topic they can point to instead.
Zoophillia, as i am given to understand, is one of the most hot button topics in the therian community. it is the group which is regularly aligning themselves with therians, that many if not most therians want nothing to do with.
it's also a group that is often conflated with therians, meaning that many therians have an immediate 'no fuck off that's not us' reaction to it, as a form of self preservation. because as soon as people have made a claim that you may be a zoophile, and you fail to respond in the appropriate way, you will be cast out of your own therian in group.
so the use of using zoophillia as an acusation is two-fold. for one, it makes people take the accusation seriously, and for two, it prevents people from doing their own research and looking into it.
because if you are told this person is evil, and if you support them you are also evil, at that point any questioning on your part is seen as complicity in evil acts. as apologism. this person is evil and if you ask my why, you must also be evil.
so lets circle back a little bit here, earlier i mentioned that the typical claim is pedophillia, which everything i said previously about evil acts is still true of, but you might not fully believe me about people escelating to the nearest most terrible thing they can think of, but the thing is that i have seen this before.
Part 2.5: tired asexual
hello again, youve probably never heard of me before, so let me tell you that I'm Asexual. more importantly, I'm an asexual person who has been on tumblr for a solid decade.
if you werent around in the mid to late 10s, you might not know just how bod aphobia on tumblr got, but i was there for it. and you know what the most common accusation of why asexuals, and anyone trying to discuss asexuality were evil?
because discussing asexuality was pedophillia.
yeah, asexuals. the well known 'lack of sexual attraction' community.
Now I can go into the series of claims that led to this, hell I could probably go diving on my old blog and find screenshots of these actual accusations, but thatâs kind of besides the point. The point here is that the actual reasons people give for it being âinsert evil thingâ are unimportant.
yeah, when i say it to you, a person who i am assuming knows a little something about asexuality, that that was the claim, your first thought is that that's an insane thing to say.
but for a lot of people the first time they heard about asexuality was in this discourse. so their brain is now primed to make the connection of 'oh, okay, asexuality is evil.' and now, when they see people defending asexuality, they're already defensive. they assume youre trying to trick them, or make them complicit.
asexuality is not the only place this tactic has been used though, you see it all the time. it's at its most common in things like homophobic legestation, anti-trans bills, or drag bans.
These people cannot justify the initial action as evil, so they jump to something you are more likely to agree with, and try to argue it is the same thing. this is what we call equivocation.
equivication is an incredibly effective tactic in fear-mongering, splitting up groups of people, and getting something innocuous labeled as morally wrong
'Think of the children' is a good example of this. No itâs not that im transphobic, itâs that Iâm concerned about children. Therefore, if youâre arguing against me it must be because you yourself hate children and want harm to come to them. Â
but not everyone is as obvious as to say 'think of the children' or some other line we've heard a bunch before. they find new ways to say it, and because the current safety tactics are to watch for certain phrases and words, people dont know how to look for underlying beliefs and sentiments, leaving people more vulnerable than ever to this kind of manipulation.
so now i've hopefully answered your initial question of 'why zoophillia', i want to take this a litte bit further and ask, 'what is the end goal?'
part 3: what next?
okay so would you believe me, if i said that until now ive actually been taking an incredibly good faith reading of the discourse so far?
currently I have been presenting this as a misdirection of discomfort, but not necessarily actively malicious. now however, i want to go back to the ace discourse.
bigots on tumblr weren't actually starting shit with the ace community because they really had a bone to pick with asexuals, they were doing it because they were transphobes. Surprise!
this isnt speculation on my part, transphobes have since openly discussed that they used aphobia as a kind of 'gateway' to 'gatekeeping'
if they come out of the gates talking about how 'transexuals are evil' and should be 'kicked out of the lgbt community', then they would be immediately revealed as transphobes and most of the queer community won't listen to them. these transphobic talking points have been around long enough to be identifiable and more easily discussed.
asexuality however was, particularly at the time, very under-discussed. it also wasnt a part of the 'standard' LGBT acronym, which made it easier for them to make the argument that asexual people should not be allowed to be considered part of the community.
aphobia at the time was considered less divisive, you could be more easily convinced that this community you have never heard of is evil, dont question it. theyre pedophiles and groomers, if that isnt enough to convince you theyre evil it must be because you're also an evil person, so don't question it or do your own research. then we might come for you.
This was wildly successful! And now that that campaign has gone so well, they can now openly admit that they were secretly transphobes all along! And wow, you already aligned with us, so you need to double down on hating trans people because the rest of the queer community doesnât want you back after that bullshit!
now maybe you consider this to be a particularly poor faith reading of the current discourse. maybe i had you in the first half, but all of this stuff about secret transphobes and conservatives playing along in ways that are more acceptable seems a little far fetched and conspiratorial to you. a bit of equivication here and there isnt inherently a sign of deeper sinister intentions. isnt all of this a bit of a stretch?
and maybe youre right, maybe im just someone who has seen something similar play out before, and im jumping to defence at something that wont become the same issue.
but isn't it interesting that the people being most vitriolistically upset about all of this, and attacking the creator of these things and accusing them of zoophillia are also misgendering him?
[Tw: Zoophilia mention]
Genuine question: WHY do so many people in this community jump on everything they find weird and immediate label it as zoophilia?!
Like- animal packers, fantasy toys, yiff art, pet play, kink gear, LITERALLY ANYTHING.
Seriously, relieving dysphoria, having "dirty" urges related to your identity, even straight up liking some freaky shit does NOT mean someone is attracted to animals. And it definitely does not mean they are actively harming/thinking of harming real animals.
People really take whatever is too weird for them and try to accuse it of war crime. Be better y'all.
#hello inlaws#yelling into the void#hope yall enjoyed my minor essay#i dont go here but my husband does#transphobia#zoophillia#aphobia#discourse#pedophillia mention#holy shit i just checked and this is almost 2k#i am absolutely putting it towards my daily word count#because i for sure did this instead of writing the story im supposed to be working on#very ready for absolutely nobody but me and august to read this#also i dont want to call you out like this in the main post but equivication is something we should always be aware of#just because its a tactic used by transphobes and conservatives doesnt mean its something that we are immune to#and zoophillia isnt a war crime by our common definition of the phrase#its interesting to note that you also while trying to explain that they were doing a bad thing (unwarranted accusation of animal abuse)#you also used the language of escalation in a bid to try and get people to take the thing they did more seriously#i dont mean this as a 'youre secretly a terrible person for doing this'#i just think its an interesting note#and something we should all watch out for in ourselves#god knows ive been guilty of it
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Hii it's my first time requesting. Can I request 5. "Is that your way of asking me to stay tonight" with Joshua x female reader thankyouuu
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suggestive prompt #5: "is that your way of asking me to stay the night?"
joshua leaned back against the couch, his arm draped casually along the backrest, his hand brushing your shoulder. the movie you picked had long since faded into the background, forgotten amidst stolen glances and lingering touches. your focus wasnât on the screenâit was on him. you can't help but be reminded of how happy you've been the past 2 months, dating someone like him.
âyouâre not even watching,â he teased, voice low and soft, a smile playing on his lips.
âneither are you,â you shot back, turning your head to meet his gaze. his eyes sparkled in the dim light, and the corners of his mouth twitched, betraying the amusement he tried to hide.
before either of you could think twice, the gap between you disappeared. his lips were warm against yours, his hand sliding to the back of your neck, pulling you closer. the movieâs soundtrack melted into the background as the kiss deepened, a slow and deliberate exchange that left your heart racing.
when he finally pulled back, his forehead rested lightly against yours, and his breath was uneven. his thumb brushed your jawline, lingering like he didnât want to let go.
âitâs getting late,â he murmured, his voice just above a whisper. âi should probably go.â
your eyes widened at his words, panic flaring in your chest. âwait!â the word came out more desperate than you intended, and joshuaâs brows raised in surprise.
âwhat is it?â he asked, his lips curving into a faint smile, his hand still resting on your waist.
âitâs just...â you glanced at the clock, scrambling for an excuse. âitâs late. you shouldnât drive this late, its.. dangerous.â
his smile widened into a smirk, the kind that made your stomach flutter. âis that your way of asking me to stay the night?â
your cheeks burned under his gaze, and you bit your lip, suddenly shy. you nodded, barely meeting his eyes.
joshua chuckled, his voice warm and teasing as he leaned in closer. âyouâre making this really hard for me, you know that?â
âwhy?â you asked, your voice barely audible.
he sighed, his forehead dropping to your shoulder for a moment before pulling back to look at you. âbecause iâm trying to be a gentleman. iâm trying to leave before things... escalate.â his eyes flickered down to your lips before returning to your gaze, the implication clear.
your heart pounded as you processed his words, your fingers instinctively curling around the fabric of his shirt. âwhat if i donât want you to leave?â
joshuaâs breath hitched, his resolve visibly wavering. âare you sure about that? i dont know if i can hold myself back if you keep looking at me like that.â he said softly, searching your expression.
you nodded, your voice steady despite the heat rushing to your cheeks. âim sure,â
he let out a soft laugh, his fingers brushing a stray strand of hair from your face. âyouâre going to be the death of me,â he muttered, but the smile on his lips gave him away.
âis that a yes?â you asked, a nervous lilt to your voice.
he sighed dramatically, leaning back against the couch as if weighing his options.
his tone turning teasing again as he leaned closer, his smirk returning, âno man in their right mind would ever say no to you, darling.â
your cheeks flushed, and you buried your face in his shoulder, his laugh rumbling against you. even as the movie continued playing in the background, it was clear neither of you was paying attention anymore.
#seventeen imagine#seventeen#svt#svt x reader#seventeen fluff#svt fluff#fanfic#seventeen x reader#joshua seventeen#seventeen joshua#joshua fluff#joshua imagines#joshua fanfic#joshua x reader#joshua hong#joshua#joshua hong x reader#daisymbin: reqs
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That feeling when he can't stand to see you that way, no matter what you do, no matter what you sayđ©đđ
#scott pilgrims precious little life#scott pilgrim vs the world#spvtw#spto#scott pilgrim#wallace wells#lisa miller#scollace#kim pine#natalie adams#envy adams#don't rlly know if I like how this turned out but oh well;;;#hope its obvious that this is based on the song âScott Pilgrimâ which the creation the comics were inspired from#the lyrics always make me think of Wallace and Lisa's feelings for Scott every time I hear it#ofc you could also relate it to Kim especially since the singers voice kind of reminds me of her#but overall the lyrics fit these two much better since Scott never truly âsaw them that wayâ despite how long they've liked him#and they always seem happier to see him compared to Kim#Im surprised tho that I havent yet seen anyone draw these two together now that their dialogue parallels have been acknowledged more lately#also tho I wish more people pointed out that they both got cucked by red heads LOL#and Kim and Envy actually do look really similar when scott first meets them#makes me wonder if Scott subconsciously went for Envy since she reminded him of Kim (which would be fitting given that you could argue that#Envy dated Scott because he reminded her of Todd. Since he and Scott are confirmed to be meant to be seen as similar to one another#so much so that even their first and last names rhyme#last thing I'll add tho is that while Wallace and Lisa are very similar even personality wise#the one big difference is that despite that whole conclusion on vol4 of Scott not cheating on Ramona with Lisa because he loves her#the writers apparently think it would be âorganically correctâ for him to have an affair with wallace LMAO#but I guess we shouldn't be surprised since Wallace and Ramona are both in the front of the official valentines art which is clearly#a deptiction of Scotts wet dream or smth (oh and you could also argue that Wallace and Lisa parallel on that art since they're both#shirtless with white socks.. which could be a reference to how lisa wears skimpy clothes for Scott and Wallace often only wears boxers#to like sexually frustrate Scott for fun or smth
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i like him
#somebody needs to keep me 8 metres away at all times or else ill start chewing on him#i just want everyone to know if i end up making a character who happens to resemble harvey in any shape or form#it probably wasnt a coincidence đand it will happen again#if i remember maybe ill try getting stardew when it goes on sale.. my friend showed me her farm and she named her chicken after doja cat#or maybe it was nikki minaj i cant remember. and she also said smth about monsters and passing out if you stay out after a certain hour#idk how accurate tht is all i know is the funny fucked up grandpas bed#i read somewhere that harveys supposed to be in his early to mid thirties and i dont have a problem with it but i think itd be very funny#if hes actually younger than he looks hes just a med school postgrad lmao. idk how well that headcanon would hold up since ive#never played the game and idk how often ppl talk about his age or if itsjust an implied thing. i just think its really really funny#im trying to get into the habit of drawing poses so im using reference images to try and build up muscle memory#i found some cute pictures of two ppl playing by the sea shore and it reminded me of xin and sailor so im gonna draw em like that#i havent drawn em in so long..... maybe i should update xins reference since i changed their lore quite a bit#myart#my art#doodles#stardew valley#stardew#sdv#sdv harvey#kinda wanna see him whimper a little bit. as a treat
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SAGESUNE MIKU >:DDD
#i rise from the dead once again!!#sorry about the long periods of time in between me posting#school is absolutely kicking my ass right now and i havent had any time to draw the creatures :(#ive also just been feeling unsatisfied with my art as of late#its probably just too much time online looking at other peoples art making me feel bad about myself#even though im improving as fast as i can it doesnt feel like im getting any better#but i know from experience that that feeling doesnt go away with time#so i guess ill always see flaws in my art no matter how hard i try to get better#man. that got really depressing :/#anyways SAGE!!! i love her she is my favorite of all time and im going to draw her so much yall dont even KNOW :D#ive got tons of other stuff planned too so watch out >:3#i could hit you guys with 6 paragraphs of au lore any day now#sonic the hedgehog#sage robotnik#AWWWHHHGG SHE HAS HER OWN LITTLE TAG IM SOBBING#anyways#sage sonic#hatsune miku#i guess#whoof im scared to post this#or maybe im just exhausted#probably both :/
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sometimes i wish i was one of those artist that make people go "this is a PAINTING???" or "with WHAT programm/medium???" but its just not what i can do or find fun :/
#ganondoodles talks#personal#not really for the attention thing but more for .. work being recognized?#im not sure#to feel more like people actually stop and look at sth instead of skipping over it?#maybe its jsut an internet phenomena(?)#like the way everything is just consumed within seconds and never lasts long and if you miss the trend you are irrelevant#the sort of weird pressure to have to subvert expectations or be exceptionally exceptional just to be recognized ?#(which i know isnt always a good thing lol)#also this isnt a complaint per se more like a thought#like i sometimes wish i was into the popular characters instead of the niche ones etc#that kind of thing#also like i wish i could make art that really speaks to people .. like those that are just so .. interesting and strange and poetic#bc (while i know fanart and silly oc projects arent worhtless) those feel more worthwhile? more worth really being called art?#for soemthing to be truly art it should be either exceptionally skilled or profound like the greatest poets?#im just doing whatever my brain allows me to do- which i know is fine#but i also dont think its inherently wrong to wish for being more than that sometimes#(... maybe its mostly just loneliness without knowing how to find friends)#(especially where i am and especially as i just want a friend to live with - not a partner... i dont want to be this alone forever ...)#(actually ....... what if all my art self consciousness comes from wanting to feel less lonely .. oh dear- no time to unpack that omg)
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