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ouyangzizhensdad · 4 years ago
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Where did it come from that LJY is the loud obnoxious "unlan" Lan and that he has so much hatred towards himself ?
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Who says that LJY has hatred toward himself? Since when? What? What???
I mean, it is not untrue that LJY is very loud and very “un-lan” in his behaviour. His dialogue is often described as “shouting” or “yelling” instead of “saying” or “asking”. There are a lot of exclamation points in his dialogue as well. That fact is reflected in how voice actors portray the character across adaptations. We even have LSZ describing him in the following manner in one of the early chapters:
Lan Sizhui knew that Lan Jingyi had always been careless and straightforward, not thinking twice about anything or suspecting anyone.
One of the first thing we see him say in the novel is yell at WWX that if he doesn’t give back the flag he’s going to hit him (yelling and threatening bodily harm are not the most Lan behaviour): “还不还?不还我打你了!” 
Then, when WWX!MXY makes his exit from the courtyard, LJY laughs and says that he is really a lunatic, which prompts LSZ to give him a tiny lecture ( 别这么说。)
LJY talks back to seniors/elders:
Lan Jingyi spoke straightforwardly, “Isn’t Jiang-Zongzhu here as well?”
Jiang Cheng replied grimly, “Tsk, do you really think that you should butt in when your seniors are conversing? The GusuLan Sect has always been known for its respectful conduct. Is this really how it teaches its disciples?”
He doesn’t mind talking behind other people’s back (especially if Hanguang-jun doesn’t tell him to stop).
Lan Jingyi spoke. “That is right. You have seen Jiang-zongzhu’s methods, have you not? They are quite cruel…” He paused here, remembering the rule that stated “talking behind other people’s backs” was prohibited, and secretly glanced at Lan Wangji. Seeing that Hanguang-Jun didn’t show any means to chastise him, he was bold enough as to mumble on, “It is all because of the unhealthy trend that the Yiling Laozu started. There are so many people who copy him and cultivate that foolish method. With Jiang-zongzhu being so suspicious of everyone, is it even possible for him to catch all of them? Just look at you and your flute skills… Heh.”
Or speaking behind their backs.... while the person is there.
Lan Sizhui and Lan Jingyi wriggled their way over. As Lan Jingyi heard this, he raised his voice, “Of course they do not have a good relationship!”
“The MolingSu Sect was a branch of the GusuLan Sect,” explained Lan Wangji.
“What?”
Lan Sizhui covered Lan Jingyi’s mouth, whispering, “Wei-qianbei, you might not know this. The MolingSu Sect was the sect that a foreign disciple built after he broke away from the GusuLan Sect. But because of where he studied, his sect’s techniques tend to be similar to the those of the GusuLan Sect’s. They cultivate through music as well. Even the Su-zongzhu’s first-class spiritual weapon is a seven-stringed guqin like Hanguang-jun’s.”
Quite speechless, Wei Wuxian turned around to look at the dark-faced Su She. Lan Jingyi struggled his way out of Lan Sizhui and grumbled, “Not only that, it gets even more peculiar! Su-zongzhu… Fine, I know I have to be quiet! Su-zongzhu not only learns everything, but he is also quite annoyed by others saying that he is imitating our Hanguang-jun—he gets angry at once. How could such a person exist in this world?!”
Hearing him become louder and louder, Lan Sizhui could only interrupt.  “Jingyi!”
After Yi city, he tries alcohol and then tries to hide it when Hanguang-jun comes in (luckily for him, Hanguang-jun is too drunk to care!). In short, LJY breaks many a rule during his appearances in the main text of the novel. And shows no remorse doing it, although he reigns himself a little bit when Sizhui reminds him of the rules.
At the same time, LJY is someone who is incredibly honest and willing to learn, and ready to come at the defense of others. He’s also described as someone who has a “tolerant personality” in the novel. He showcases a lot of the virtues valued by the Lan clan, although he certainly does not present himself as a the ideal Lan disciple. Look at this pure boy being the loudest even while crying. 
Lan Jingyi cried the loudest. He looked awful, but this time, nobody reminded him to keep his voice low, since Lan Sizhui’s eyes were red as well.
The novel also highlights that while LJY might be quick to make judgements, he is also quick to reevaluate them. While LJY seems at first to resent WWX!MXY for suggesting that Hanguang-jun might be a cut-sleeve and for flirting so overtly and crassly with him, he changes his mind quite readily and then starts being upset when WWX is not being moony enough at Hanguang-jun during the Yi City arc.
Lan Jingyi approved, “Well, obviously. Of course Hanguang-jun is good. He just never likes to show it off. He is very low-key, right?”
The “right?” was directed at Wei Wuxian, who replied in confusion, “Are you asking me? Why are you asking me?”
Lan Jingyi was on the verge of being angered, “So you think that Hanguang-jun is not good?!”
[...]
After running for a while, Lan Jingyi spoke up, “So we are just going to run off like this?” 
Wei Wuxian turned around and shouted, “Hanguang-jun, it’s up to you now. We’re gonna go ahead!” 
The strings of the guqin vibrated, as if someone was saying “mnn”. Wei Wuxian cracked up with a pfft. 
Lan Jingyi hesitated, “That was it? You are not going to say anything else?” 
“What else do you want me to do? What else should I say?” 
“Why did you two not say ‘I’m worried about you. I’m staying!’, ‘Go!’, ‘No! I’m not going! If I’m going, you’re going with me!’? Is it not a must?” 
Wei Wuxian was left agape.
Similarly, he begins the novel believing that WWX was a “big villain” but once shown the reality of who the man is, he believes in him and comes to his defense. 
But the idea that this means that LJY hates himself for not being the perfect lan disciple comes out of nowhere for me. LJY does not appear complexed in any way by the fact that he is loud and gets punished often (although he doesn’t enjoy the punishments). And while Sizhui is often reminding him to be careful about his behaviour, or is often remining him of the rules, LJY does not seem to find these comments from his friend a form of censure. He doesn’t even appear really bashful when he’s reminded not to speak ill of others. At no point in the novel is it hinted that LJY must or intends to learn to be more Lan-like. So unfortunately, anon, if you wanted me to explain where this (apparently popular?) bit of fanon came from, I am of no help!
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bottomlwjrights · 4 years ago
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MO DAO ZU SHI REREAD:Thoughts™️....and Stuff
Chapter 40
“They should’ve been able to talk, to say who they were, to shout for help. However, the awful thing was that somebody had cut all of their tongues off before this.” In case i havent said it enough, i hate Xue Yang!!!!
I dont have anything funny or witty to say, this whole situation is just sad
“She instinctively hated him and refused to settle. And so, whenever Xue Yang went out night-hunting with Xiao XingChen, she’d secretly follow them. Even when they were in the same house, she didn’t lower her guard.” She lived constantly on guard for, what, years?
Nobody told xxc stories when he was a kid, which I believe to be a crime
The first disciple to leave the mountain, YanLing DaoRen, was an excellent and renowned cultivator, but suddenly became a villian for some unknown reason and died under thousands of swords, according to xxc (parallels wwx a little)
“‘The second disciple was a girl and also very outstanding.’ Wei WuXian’s chest felt warm. She was ZangSe SanRen.” 🥺
“How would an outstanding and beautiful cultivator settle on a servant. This story’s so cliche. It’s probably made up by some poor scholar.” Oh little A-Qing... (wait this mirrors lwj and wwx’s love story, except of course the death part, because in my eyes they just cultivate to immortality and live happily ever after, together forever)
Shut up, wwx, you’re not a villain
Xxc describing sl makes me uuuh wanna cry “A very good friend of mine.” “A sincere man of noble nature.”
Shut the fuck up Xue Yang, no body cares
SHUT UP XXC CARRIED A-QING TO BED THATS ADORABLE 🥺 BIG BRO XINGCHEN EVEN TUCKED HER IN
Shut up!!!! He went and got her candy!!!! And then gave her candy everyday!!!!
Sl said to A-Qing the exact same the xxc said to her, like almost word for word... hold i...
Also note that wwx said they must have been very good friends to be so much alike 
Why did he hesitate???
“Song Lan answered straight away, ‘His height is similar to mine. His appearance is rather fine. His sword is carved with patterns of frost.’�� Dont ask why this drove me crazy 
Sl was looking for xxc for years....
“For some reason, Song Lan’s face was extremely pale. He stared at the door of the coffin home, as if he would rush inside if he could, but was too scared to do so.”
“The instant he heard the [xxc’s] voice, Song Lan’s hands trembled so much that A-Qing could clearly see it.”
Sl was so angry his entire body was shaking
Xy is disgusting
After the attack of Baixue temple, while injured, sl said some nasty things to xxc....sounds alot like the aftermath of Nightless City....
“Who was the one who said ‘from now on, we won’t need to meet again’? Wasn’t it you, Daozhang Song? He listened to your request and disappeared after he dug out his eyes for you, but why have you come to him now?” Shut up shut up shut up
Fuck Xue Yang!!!!
“Song Lan looked down at Shuanghua’s blade, which penetrated his heart, then slowly looked up again. He saw Xiao XingChen, who calmly held the sword.” Im gonna cry
“Slowly, Song Lan fell to his knees before Xiao XingChen.” Yup im crying
“At such a time, if Song Lan passed his sword to Xiao XingChen’s hands, Xiao XingChen would’ve immediately known who he was. He’d be able to recognize the sword of his closest friend with just a touch.” He would have known sl’s sword by just a touch....
Sl didnt pass his sword to xxc so that he didnt have to bear the burden of knowing he killed him.....
“...large drops of tears rolled from her eyes. Although she was scared, A-Qing reached out to close Song Lan’s eyes. She then kneeled in front of him and put her palms together, ‘Daozhang, please don’t blame me or the other daozhang.’”
She kowtowed in front of sl’s body....
A-Qing is smart and quick witted, pulling such a fast lie like that
“Cut a few dozens of times on her face so that she’ll never have the guts to go outside again.” 😧
How xy can say something like that and then offer up a plate of bunny shaped apple slices that he cut himself is beyond me
“Looking at the plate of cute, delicate slices, disgust filled both A-Qing’s and Wei WuXian’s hearts.” Yeah me too
(Chapter 41 & Chapter 42 below the cut)
Chapter 41
A-Qing didnt wanna tell xxc about sl...
“The blood grew more and more and eventually leaked through the bandages, trickling down from where his eyes once were.” God he’s crying ....
“Originally, the injury of his eyes would bleed whenever he had excessive thoughts or emotions, but it hadn’t recurred in quite a long while.” I hate this
“...after Xiao XingChen managed to calm down, he told A-Qing, ‘A-Qing, run away.’” I hate this so much
“I can’t go. I need to find out what exactly he’s trying to do...If I left him here alone, I’m afraid that the people of Yi City would sink into his hands.” Y’all gotta stop with this selfless,self sacrificing, being a good caring person shit man, its okay to save yourselves sometimes
“A-Qing’s sobs weren’t faked anymore. She tossed the bamboo pole to the side and clung to Xiao XingChen’s leg...”
“Xiao XingChen asked coldly, ‘Was it fun?’ Xue Yang took another bite into the apple that was still in his hand. He only replied after calmly chewing for a while and swallowing the fruit, ‘Yes. Of course it was fun.’” I hate him
Even the idea that xy did all this because he was bored...
“My finger was my own, while those lives were other peoples’. They wouldn’t be equal no matter how many lives I killed. It was only around fifty. How could it have possibly been equal to one of my fingers?” I cannot even begin to express my disgust...
This is all so sad....
“… Is that you, ZiChen?”
“Even if the two swords had just clashed, Xiao XingChen should be able to tell who the other was from only the strength of the attack...He turned around slowly and reached out a quivering hand, feeling for the blade of Song Lan’s sword.”
“… ZiChen… Daozhang Song… Daozhang Song… Is that you…?” Im crying again
And he’s crying nonstop
“… What happened…? Say something…”
“Xiao XingChen stood blankly in front of Song Lan. Putting his hands on his head, he wailed as though he was ripping his chest apart.” I cant handle this shit im about to stop reading
Fuck you, Xue Yang
“At this moment, Wei WuXian saw himself in Xiao XingChen. Him, who failed miserably as he stood drenched in blood, who couldn’t do anything except silently acknowledge the critiques and accusations, who was wholly beyond hope, who could only cry in despair!” Yeah i didnt need that in the middle of all this
“He could only whimper in pain, ‘Please. Let me go.’” Im really going through it
They all died in such horrific ways
Thank goodness thats over!!!!
Chapter 42
Wwx really implied that xy killed Chang Ping as revenge for xxc huh....wow no
Even in death, A-Qing is brave. Thank you for your contribution in ending that mf
Lwj cuts off xy’s arm when he reaches towards wwx
There was so much blood on the ground that wwx almost slipped in it, gross
Lmao i didnt think lwj would be the one to just toss a pouch to someone but here we are
Wn just squatting on the ground, chillin
Okay yanno what im still confused as hell as to why the juniors were lead to yi city...
God that makes me so angry, Xue Yang keeping the piece of candy for years and holding onto it when he died, like even the idea that he liked xxc and still decided to torture him to death good lord
“Lifting up the hem of his robes, Lan WangJi stepped over the high threshold in an elegant manner, then nodded.”  Wwx just looks at lwj do literally anything and is just like “he’s so elegant 😍 so graceful 🥰 look at my lan zhan, so pretty 🥰😍🥰”
“When he wakes, say I’m sorry, it wasn’t your fault.” Wow....
“He still wore the dark cultivation robes. Standing alone, he carried two swords, Shuanghua and Fuxue, he brought two souls, Xiao XingChen and A-Qing, and walked another path.” Wow.... i wish for you the best, Song Lan
Lsz standing and wondering if xxc and sl would ever meet again....
I agree with jl, death is too light of a punishment for xy
Lmfnck ljy cried the loudest out of everyone sjnckck
The juniors light incense and burning paper money for them 🥺 they’re so sweet
ItS nOt lIkE yOuVE DiEd HoW wOuLd YoU KnOw iF DeaD pEoPle ReCiEve PaPeR MonEY
PLEASE WATCH YOUR MOUTH JINGYI
“How come? Was I really that much of a failure? Was there not a single person who burned paper money for me? Was it really because nobody burned them that I didn’t receive any?” STOOOOOP
“Looking at his calm face, Wei WuXian thought to himself, Really? Had he really not burnt anything?!” Okay i don’t remember if he actually did or not but nonetheless this shit hurted
The hunter was probably the same person who lead them together to yi city with the corpses, BUT WHY THO
Awwww wwx happy to see Lil Apple
Stop teasing jl, wwx, its not nice
Even though the lookout towers are a good idea, and benefit smaller more remote towns, i cant help but wonder if there was some kind of ulterior motive behind them
“Almost all of the dishes were covered in red. Paying attention to Lan WangJi’s chopsticks, he notes that he ate mostly from the milder dishes, rarely the bright-red ones. Even when he did, his expression remained the exact same. Wei WuXian felt something tug at his heart.” uGGgGgGHhHhH 
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