#literally Ladybug or Chat need to tell Kagami her boyfriends a fucking ASSHOLE.

[jennrypan]

Adrinette and Feligami are just the same thing in a different font.

And no, thats not great. Felix was just fine without a love interest but now he suddenly sees this one chick and boom, he cares more about her than..anything else. Fascinating. This doesnt remove how he GAVE ALL THE FUCKING MIRACULOUS TO GABRIEL LIKE AN ASSHOLE.

DOESNT REMOVE HOW HE WAS A DICK TO ADRIEN AND HIS FRIENDS AND DIDNT APOLOGIZE!!

Fuck him. Like actually. Chloe and Lila are getting reamed for being evil as all hell but Felix literally does wicked shit too but suddenly he gets himself a girlfriend and that gets forgiven???

HES THE REASON HAWKMOTH IS MONARCH NOW.

None of yall can even come at me with that 'he wants to protect senti monsters' shit, maybe instead he shoulda told Ladybug ooor maybe help his damn cousin if he 'cares' so much! He knows who Monarch is and yet he just refuses to say anything?? He knows Adriens mom is in that damn basement and says NOTHING?? Hes a terrible cousin and only gives a shit when its convenient for him.

(If Chloe had been the one to give up the miraculous' it would never be forgotten and she'd be stopped immediately 🙄)

[jams-sims]

I wish, I never found out about the salt community because it only proves my fears more. That ML story and fandom lack a strong structure to tackle the, "the two main pairing gets significant others but its not the right pair" trope.

One side says; Adrien a pieces of shit nice guy, misogynist, who can't take no for an answer. Is an asshole.

Other side; Marinette a obsessive stalker, can do no wrong, can't take no for an answer. Is a Bitch.

And the conclusion I've come to from passively watching the series from the sideline all these years is that- they are both annoying fucking brats. Who did the same thing, they both did the same shit to each other. Its just the fandom decided they needed to pick sides.

No let me correct that, writers/creative directors/Thomas who ever. Made the divide and never fixed it. So everyone feels the need to pick a side to help the lackluster writing. (That sound harsh but I don't feel like explaining.)

The show activity rakes Marinette over the coals for every little thing she does. Did she lie about something that honestly didn't matter? Did she do this uncool thing. Time to flip the fuck out ya'll. With some poor choices from someone who should have never said anything. Said they didn't like their main character. Forcing the fandom to react harshly to fixs it. To balance out the dislike of a very strong voice in the fandom.

The show emotional fucks over Adrien at every turn. He barely feels like a main character half the time. The worst part is unlike Marinette who because she is the main character. She has to learn a lession and learn from her mistake because this is a show for growing girls and boys. Adrien doesn't get that, they rake him over the coal with the literal plot. The always the looming distrust, no one telling him anything, the constants threat of his fucking father. Literal Chat Blanc. They refuse to let him grow.

The show can't balance the two of them. They feel like either one should be more wrong than the other. When its they are both wrong and that why they are stuck together.

Ugh, Chat can't take a hint.

Ugh Marinette can't take a hint.

Wow its almost like they mirror each other it just you see more of one than the other. And the fact the story stuck them together as partners and keeps having to tell you they are partner. Means they aren't really partners. When they created a power imbalance introducing the guardians.

Side note: its simple they shine a light on marinette's imperfections in the show. They don't with Adrien because of bad writing. People don't like that so they pick the closes character to her who is Adrien to complain and say look see he's bad too! Because no one gonna pick on the side characters because who cares about them. An they flushed Choles whole character into the toilet so Oops.

Now this is just me talking but I feel like. A lot of this comes from the fact Chat Noir and Lady Bug are not written as good partners in the first place. Lets be honest flirting never translate well to an american audience without some heavy handed. No they actually have conversations and its not this back and forth.

I have never once felt like they were partners. I've read more fanfictions thats gotten this dynamic correct than the show. I don't feel like they ever had a genuine conversation. Which would counter act all the flirting. They don't even act like friends. Its always felt hallow or superficial. The show does a horrible job putting Chat and Lady on the same footing. Which is causing all this mess in the first place.

I don't trust it with this new development they are going for. Its going to add (lol) salt to the wound for everyone. I can see it now, Luka and Kagami salt. This time with pink salt because the show either made Marinette and asshole or Luka. Its just the same thing with Adrien he's either and asshole or Kagami is.

I feel the show needs to finally give Adrien some a mentor anything. Someone who can have an honest conversation with him and go. "Listen imma train you to be strong but we gotta talk about the Ladybug thing. And therapy- and a new home because holy fuck your father."

And someone who isn't ridding Ladybug ass needs to tell her. " Look we need to talk about your savior complex, the thing with Adrien, and how the world doesn't just rest on your shoulders."

I honestly think they both need to be apart and develop apart. I think fu needs to mentor Marinette better and Adrien needs someone else to mentor him it can not be Fu. He shows to much favoritism to ladybug and thats just the writing fault.

They need to be apart to fixs the current story. But not with boyfriend and girl friends. Cause i can feel the cringe coming this new season.

LET ADRIEN AND MARINETTE BE APART 20K20.