#lime liveblogs

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wato noticing that wemmbu is in a fucked up relationship w zam and being like hey uhh be careful youve literally mentioned that he has a history of hurting you and trying to help him is. actually so sweet but.

yeah no theyre cooked theres no helping them

uu!wato fascinates me. theyre just. she- shes just an escape room builder. who literally hides from everyone so he doesnt have to pvp. knows barely anyone on the server. is one of the only people on the server whose first instinct genuinely is to help first and mock second (yes ik one of our pov characters is literally one of these people too (parrot (and wifies but hes not pov)) but. yk what i mean). literally barely knows wemmbu and has spent this whole time making fun of him but is still helping him so damn much?? in this server thats fucked up, its- wato is the first person to actually specifically point out that wemmbu and zams relationship is fucked up (there have been vague jokes and egg saying that wemmbu is acting like zam but no ones directly brought it up)

in conclusion i love the wemmbu and wato duo dearly. watos efforts are almost certainly in vain tho. bcs. as ive said previously many, many times, uh. mutiny duo may be incredibly fucked up and toxic (even tho theyre not as much at eachothers throats anymore), but i heavily doubt they could live without eachother at this point

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wemmbu actually trusting in the idea that zam wouldve thrown him the bucket and boots if he knew that he could is. INSANE?? im. genuinely, what the fuck did we miss between the last wemmbu video and this one. like. yeah they were making strides forward in the last video but it did NOT end in them having a much much better relationship?? they argued and then never talked again iirc?? like. how did we get from THAT to this

"this time was different" okay, BUT HOW. WHY. HOW DID WE GET HERE.

i am so confused chat

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the catboy

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i do not think either of these guys remember that fight accurately

ZAM YOUR ARMOUR WAS NOT BROKEN, YOU WERE TAKING IT OFF TO BE EQUAL W WEMMBUS BROKEN ARMOUR BCS YOU DIDNT WANT TO KILL HIM. IT DID NOT GET BROKEN. WEMMBU WAS IN THE WAY, WAY, WAYYY WORSE POSITION. FORCING ZAMS HAND TO KILL HIM. zam was definitely winning that fight (he didnt want to tho)

theyre not ever going to address that are they. the fact that zam did not want to kill wemmbu (the quote "i dont think youre gonna let me let you live" from zam sticks in my head forever) or the apology. or. gods they are so dysfuncitonal and fucked up i love them

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okay so im just sitting here, watching, and. spoke straightup does not mention the fact that he was chunkbanned from the server, is widely considered to be Really Fucking Evil, and chunkbanned wifies off the server for weird revenge at parrot. he just straightup doesnt mention that whole plot

and. thats fascinating to me, okay. i know wemmbu sorta does the same thing, i forget WHAT but he did a bunch of stuff in spoke and parrots videos near the start that he didnt mention in his own, but. it feels like a much bigger plot with spoke that hes just. not mentioning.

smth smth he doesnt want to stain his image? bcs so far his whole image is that hes trying to remedy his mistakes of figuring out that glitches and duping are possible and then going on a bit of a power trip.

tldr spoke is an unreliable narrator, thank you for coming to my ted talk (xi say, despite this not being fogs longest post abt unstableverse)

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"this is no longer a task that takes me hours, i can just- come back over and over and over and- there is literally nothing stopping me at this point"

woah hello there time looper mentality. wato1876 are you doing okay

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fun little game to play called 'spot ken peeking over into the escape room'

catboy located

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are we just meant not to question how the top right part of the map got filled in

like uh. i dont think he was ever close enough for that......

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THE WAY THAT ZAM AND WEMMBU TALK TO EACHOTHER IS SO FUNNY TO ME

zam is literally beating wemmbu to death with his fist while calling him 'my sweet, sweet wemmbu' and 'my little wemmy guy'. WHAT

yeah wemmbu this DOES feel like an abusive relationship. a really entertaining one

what is wrong with them

there is no explanation for this

why is he so close. peentar and manepear (and eggchan) are just Watching This.

"youre like a little bug, a little bug i could crush under my finger" zam do you hear yourself rn

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i. fuck. okay its so. interesting to me how uu is just so. fucked up and deeply exhausting to everyone on it. its just constant wars and fighting and youre never safe, and its impossible to get a rest.

fantst was the first to recognise this, when he chunkbanned himself. that failed bcs at the time, no one understood him. it was parrot, when he ran away with wifies to the end to build a 'safe' empire, away from it all. now its wemmbu, now its zam, agreeing with wemmbu.

theyre all just fucking tired. its the- you know how when you get really far into a long piece of media and the character writing is good so what happens is that all the characters just get fucking tired and jaded and. they just want to get out.

its been proven over and over and over that all their goals, ambitions, will always be foiled bcs theres always someone more powerful. someone out to get you. so theres no point to dreaming, to fighting, to having the motivation to try and save the server or whatever. its gonna fail either way, its happened so many times before.

so yeah. running away to a place where one can actually dream of - if not actually have - safety makes complete sense. when youre just that tired and broken- it makes sense. chill for once. build things - like wemmbu wants to. build, instead of destroy. its tiring. the constant, ceaseless fighting is tiring. never being safe is tiring. its soul-crushing.

this is what kenadian recognised, when they wanted to stay in proton. because at least in proton, youre safe. because at least in proton, theres a guarantee of survival. because at least in proton, you know whats going to happen. because at least in proton, nothing can go wrong.

so much has happened, afterall.

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i love when its obvious that a games creator has a tumblr

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okay, coin rant is NOW, apparently. edit: just finished typing this up, its really fucking long, ill throw in a readmore. its. i have so many thoughts about this guy

i fucking love him????

see, hes this annoying fucking warden guy, too egoistic and sure of himself at the start. bullying the fuck out of the miners for no reason, unnecessarily rude, i legit hated him at the start!

but. hes trapped like all of the miners are? hes trapped, under reddoons thumb, he cant leave, hes got his own quota to fill (both metaphorically and not). he knows that hes in a fucked position, is weak, but doesnt want the prisoners to see that bcs theyre meant to be afraid of him. so he puts on that persona. if hes loud and fucked up and rude thats him exercising power over everyone; they cant hurt him and overthrow him if hes a big mean guy who talks down to them (its a) the cycle of abuse, b) toxic masculinity)

he is TRAPPED, JUST LIKE THEM. but he cant see that because its that us vs them mentality that hes forced into at the start. he has to see himself as being on redds (and thus ashs) side even when he realistically is in the same position as the prisoners, because thats the only way to tolerate the manipulation and abuse. hes stuck there, in that position, that unending hell, the limbo of day in, day out, just as the miners are.

and this doesnt excuse the verbal abuse to the miners but it DOES explain it! hes exercising power that he supposedly has over these people. he has that power, yes, he was trusted with it! so hes using it to reinforce that position. that position of being in power while hes actually also a victim

have i mentioned that the invisible mafia is a cult. have i.

but then , along come parrot and wifies (and dean, i guess). they defy him, show him up, defy him. deny the power that hes meant to hold, prove that he cant actually use it, that it was never really real anyway. it was MEANT to be real, it is real, but. i dont know how to explain it. power is always an illusion? it only exists if the people the power is held over accept that person being in power, collectively. only if that power if held in place by something. coins power only exists bcs a) redd put him in that position, b) he reinforces it by tlaking down to the miners. so by resisting that, parrot is taking away like, half the equation. undermining that power, which is WHAT COIN IS SCARED OF. this fucking scares him. this is power that redd trusted him with, its power that he finally has for himself! power that he can wield and be strong and no one can deny nor hurt him!

and then parrot does just that. and it fucks shit up.

parrot and wifies (and dean) show up, do just... whatever. and coin can see his power falling the fuck apart. completely. but he still does his job, clings to the habits that have kept his authority in place. does his job (letting people go)

and redd shows up, berates him, tells him that he is NOT doing his job. when thats all that coin has been trying to do, because he WANTS this job he wants this power this control that he doesnt really have elsewhere. so he tries to crack down, follow the rules more, stick to those habits

and stuff keeps falling apart

and then the roulette thing happens and he CANT FULFILL A PART OF HIS JOB. he just cant.

and. sorry if this is getting incoherent my thought process is falling apart.

when he cant kill dean (i think it was dean?), i think that was a reality check for him. here he is, about to kill a guy because redd told him to. and he does what redd wants! because redd has power over him, because he listens to redd. he does what redd wants. but he cant.s o hes failed at his job. redds already demoted him, told him that hes bad at it, he knows tha this power is slipping away. and in this moment, he can see that this is fucked up, that hes failed already, that everyone can see that he cant do this, so- he lets it. go. his powers already gone, afterall.

and then parrot talks to him, gets info from him, and he gives it after being blackmailed. he was being blackmailed, yes, but i think he needed. a reason to give that info. i think he wanted to give the info but he needed a justification. his seat of powers already been ruined, but hes still trying to cling to it, keep up appearances even when its becoming INCREASINGLY obvious that he is also trapped. if only to himself, if only to redd.

they rob the vault, redd finds out, goes and... Talks with coin again... oh now this snaps coin back into fucking listen to redd mode. previously, redd wasnt there! redd wasnt there to see him fail at his job, lose his power. he was away from redd (the source of his power), and he no longer has the other thing giving him power (the people listening to him), so he was... drifitng, is the best way to put it. coming back down to an even playing field, relaxing a bit i guess. i dont know how to phrase this.

then comes along redd, shouts at him that hes failing, that hes bad at this, that hes done nothing right, and. he must listen to redd! thats his whole job! so he does. redd tells him to kill luigi and. we all saw that he critted luigi once when redd told him to. and then he couldnt. he just couldnt.

thats his breaking point

he failed redd on every level, this time in front of redd. and he watches redd do what he couldnt, and he watches redd fix his mistake.

and redd tells him that hes fired. personally i dont think its... POSSIBLE to be fired? coin was removed from his post, like, what, twice before this? its less firing and more you are being punished for disobeying me, not following orders. in the form of a demotion (less power in a place where he has none over himself), in the form of being told that that power over the miner group is being taken away. stripping him of that control, that power, reducing him to really being just another person trapped there

and now the playing field is even. he cant act up his bluster and be loud and mean and horrible because theres no power to affirm. hes failed, plain and simple.

and he comes back, because what else is he meant to do? and he comes back, because hes trapped too, isnt he? and he comes back and he helps because hes also a prisoner and now he can see a way out with these people that have already taken him down, and he wants out too. so he helps them. properly.

in conclusion, im just saying that coin is SUCH A FUCKING INTERESTING CHARACTER. he is probably one of the characters on uu with THE most character development. and in such a short time (for uu at least lol), too. his whole thing is holding onto power that he doesnt have because hes also trapped, its literally!! he is affirming weaker power in order to make himself feel like hes in control because he is not in control. and then that gets undermined and it all goes to shit.

i love him.

im sorry if this is incoherent im posting this without proofreading. just. i hope my thoughts are interesting lol. and coherent. they probably arent. im not sorry. i just needed to yap about him, hes SO interesting to me????

literally the cycle of abuse

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look at him

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wemmbu flatout not knowing how to explain why hes trusting and willing to work w zam is. bcs. hes saying that yeah hes betrayed me many many times before and i expect it to happen again. hes. essentially saying that hes used to it. its just an expected part of being around zam and he... doesnt know how to explain why hes fine w it. why hes willing to work with him and trust him. he just- he just switches to talking about how hell leave once theyre out of there and get away from zam.

he literally doesnt know how to logically explain why hes working with and trusting someone whos fucked him over SOOO many times. even the 'oh its just bcs its necessary' explanation does not work here bcs hes said before that he is trusting zam rn. like.

am i making sense here. i dont know if i am.

mutiny duo are genuinely SO fucked up