#lily whiteknight

[ringleader-inky]

Lily's White Knights are Dumb (MENTIONS OF SA AND ABUSE!)

Ok, so normally I wouldn't make a post about this, but I'm feeling petty as shit.

Don't go harass this person it's not worth it.

So another one of Lily's whiteknights @andycollector925 had made this dumbass post.

And I had decided to comment on it saying that they were wrong in defending Lily just because she's a trans woman. You can't see it because not only did they hide the comments, but they fucking blocked me. Listen Andy, if you're going to defend you "queen" then you should be able to take the heat and not be a fucking coward. And also leave the comments open, yeah? Otherwise people will just assume that you can't handle the truth or being wrong. But let's go over their response to me shall we?

Wow... you can say all this stuff to me, but can't let me respond... how fucking pathetic. Now I've seen Lily's side of things, and yeah she changes the story on everything. Yes, Lily has been abused by her family and SAed by a teacher, and I will admit I feel sorry that it happened to her.

However that doesn't negate the fact that abused her sister and abused her partners. And yes she does change her story. In her video defended herself and said that Courtney SAed her, but a few years ago she made a post about beating up Courtney over the remote and how she never let her touch her again. Even though supposedly Courtney had 60 pounds on her and she was malnourished, supposedly.

So which is it? Was Lily so badass that she beat Courtney with a remote? Or was she to small and weak to defend herself? Before someone one says "Oh well this could've happen before the assault." You're meaning to tell me she can fight over a remote with her life, but not fight over not being assaulted with her life? Make it make sense.

Also are we going to forget that she herself admitted that she had TWO MARRIED SIBLINGS! THAT SHE STILL DRAWS TO THIS DAY!?!?

But yeah no Courtney's the one raped Lily. Not the one who's currently writing incest and making it look all cutesy and hunky dory.

Also Lily just calls people abusers whenever they come out about Lily's abuse. She did it with Britt, Lizzy, Kp, and now Courtney. It's clearly a fucking pattern of her shitty behavior. Lily fans sit here and say "Oh we need evidence of Lily's abuse." But then don't ask Lily for her receipts? Cuz as far as I'm aware Lily hasn't shown shit of Britt, Lizzy, or Kp abusing her. At all. So again go ask Lily for her receipts. And while your at it ask her why she kept Lizzy's last name. Cuz victims of abuse don't keep their abusive partners last names, especially if they were never married. Or are you not going to because you immediately believe a trans women with no second thought whatsoever.

I hate people like this. Genuinely because they don't look at the evidence presented to them. They don't actually care about the victims of abuse, they care about fitting the fucking quota of not being seen as transphobe. Which is fine, great even, but here's the thing. Trans people are people and we shouldn't putting trans people on a higher pedestal and letting get away with assault, abuse, and flashing a minor. All of which Lily has done, she even admitted to the last one in her own video.

You can call me whatever the fuck you want, Andy. Afterall I'm not the one defending a incestiphilic abusive pedophile. So why don't you take minute to find your fucking brain and bite the curb while your at it. Or are you the living proof that a human can live without one?

[dorkycreature-89]

i don't like calling fandoms/fanbases "toxic", i really don't. i don't think it's fair to generalize a bunch of people based on some jackasses in that space. now that i've said that.....

i have never seen a more toxic, parasocial, and (ironically) transphobic fanbase as lily orchard's. i'm kinda astonished by how many people will whiteknight for that woman. and i know "creators aren't responsible for fan's actions" and i would agree with you......if lily didn't perpetuate that toxicity by constantly using her identity as a shield. and they eat this shit up (while unironically being transphobic to other critics)

i swear, it's the youtber version of nicki minaj stans, istg

[faggot-billcipher]

btw i don't plan to do a super in depth dni unless i sudden really feel like it. but i think i should express that i absolutely do not want lily orchard stans anywhere near me. the sexual abuse allegations are real no matter if her stans can handle that or not. lily is 100% a pedo using the anti label to get hardheaded antis like the ones whiteknighting her. i will firmly believe that's the only reason she became an anti after everything i've learned. the only good thing about that fact is at least she's not in the proshipper corner. we don't want her ass either. she's also incredibly and repeatedly unapologetically ableist which is another reason i personally can't stand her. learning about her predatory nature just amped up my hate.

[lavender-teardroplettes]

Oh, I get to talk about the anon situation now?

Hi, I'm someone who watched this unfold first hand in the discord- I see what you're doing, you're not going to spread misinformation and try to gaslight it further. I read your whole post, I have some points I on it I don't want to miss.

Pride isn't just about positivity, it's about highlighting the negative as well.

The devs talk to each other and actively help each other code their games or figure out fun mechanics together. It's not stealing code if they trade it among themselves. They also rp their yans together because IT'S FUN god damn. Do you know what devs also do? Actively talk about problem situations in the community that may affect their fans and personal peace and safety. They recognize they have voices that can highlight and bring awareness to, they want to use them.

The server is an 18+ server for Erotic horror vns and RH, it's 18+ because we are all adults. Because of that, we have an id system in place because we want to be able to have this space without minors engaging or sneaking in. No one has been doxxed, please provide the actual proof of this instead of throwing around a lie. Also, it's not a kink server, we're just horny adults who happen to mix our kinks with our fan indulgence, we try and keep it to the appropriate channels. On the topic of Ellie: No one is weird about her. You can't organize emotes on discord unfortunately, but Ezra has a fleshed out family and Eillie has her whole life written out with another vn creator. Ellie's emotes are NEVER used when we're simping over the love interests and are mostly only used when talking about Ezra's family life or day to day outside of Sugar. If it IS that much of an issue, they can be removed.

NO ONE IS ENCOURAGED TO HARRASS ANYONE. Do people vent? Yes. Can replies be made in passion and defense, YES. However, people are allowed to vent out their thoughts and get out their frustrations in a safe space before figuring out how to respond after getting those feelings out. I'm highlighting AGAIN that MANY PEOPLE on the server are autistic and a lot of your words are coming off as extremely abelist and infantilizing.

On the topic of the anon situation, as someone who saw it happen and have made my own realizations on top of talking about it after bringing up some of my concerns; while it was a messy situation, Lily was given false proof by two of the ex mods. They were asked, without shadow of a doubt, if it was real, and Lily believed them. They apologized, they want to keep apologizing to Sushi endlessly, and most of all they're doing their best to try an do the work to do better and be a better person and creator. Lily is 21, 21 year olds make mistakes and should be allowed to grow and learn from them.

You know what people are also allowed to do? Grow and learn about their identities. It's not lying to be questioning and figure out what label fits them. Are you going to yell a the 50 year old trans person who finally decides they're going to transition? NO. Lily is a trans person highlighting trans and intersex people and bodies. Futa has NEVER been used and is a banned term and is educated on how it's harmful to the trans community. Trans people draw/write other trans representation because we know how important it is to see it, wow. I've seen what fetishization is, Lily's not doing that.

We are ADULTS, if you don't want to engage in a space then move on, heck, make your own, but don't go around shitting on others for having fun in the space THEY MADE with their friends. You're just being a party pooper at this point and trying to whiteknight for a situation that honestly isn't worth all this in light of a dev supporting NAZISM AND TRANSPHOBIA.

I'm saying it again; DO BETTER.

Since I can’t send this as an ask I’m just gonna make a post lol.

@restartheartvn @queenlilithprime

I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your game and the characters you’ve created. I hate that some losers decided to take things too far and ruin the way the fandom on tumblr used to be. There is nothing wrong with you or your game and I really really appreciate how hard you’re working on it cause developing a game is something a lot of people could never do. I love the designs and unique personalities of all the characters and I can’t wait to see how your project grows in the future :)), I’m not able to support you with money since I’m struggling a bit myself but I’ll support in any other way I can cause I genuinely enjoy your game and from what I’ve seen of your personality through the way you interact with other creators and your fans, you seem like a genuinely sweet person and I really hope you’re doing better now mentally than before.

Keep taking care of yourself and try not to let anything some dumbass on the internet says get to you, you have an entire fanbase for your game as well as other devs who’ll always have your back <33

( ik this is super late and super cheesy but I felt like it needed to be said )

[venomoustentacula]

It’s been said a billion times but I hate how Snape’s obsession with Lily was romanticized. Yes Snape was brave. Yes he was loyal in the end. HOWEVER.

What gives him the right to literally bully a CHILD, because his mother fell in love with his high school enemy— which probably wouldn’t even have happened if Snape didn’t push Lily out of his life and call her a mudblood when she came to his defense??

He bullied Harry for years and not just him but also Neville, and for WHAT? What reason did Snape have to make Neville fear him so much his boggart reflected that? From the beginning, the fact that he’s taking out his emotional issues on a child makes him pathetic. Yeah he saved his life. But how petty can you be, as a grown ass man, to hate the kid of a lady because she didn’t end up with you and punish him for things he had NO control over, over a period of 6 years??

I can appreciate the angst and unfortunate nature of Snape and Lily’s relationship, trust me. It must have torn him apart to know that he had to act as he did to protect her— and even then, I don’t know that he “had” to. Snape wasn’t a fool— he didn’t believe in the pureblood mania. He himself was a halfblood. I get that he came from an abusive household and he had to indulge certain personality traits in order to make it through life. I think if he’d had more of a backbone during his youth, he could have said fuck that shit and defected from what he was expected to do. Look at Sirius, who was exiled from his family for rejecting their beliefs. It’s true that Sirius had the Mauraders, while it seemed Snape only had Lily. So I can sympathize with him taking the path he chose, as he was forced to choose from an early age. However I think it’s just tragic for him, in the end, rather than some profound romantic story that whiteknights him and ignores how much of an asshole he was to everyone who wasn’t Draco.

[blue-shaded]

I really wonder how Sean is going to adress what's been going on in the community this year in his year in review video tomorrow. If he doesn't he's just as ignorant and stupid as I feared... There's so much to discuss and I hope he won't sweap it under a rug... But I fear he will and pretend everything has been sunshine and lilies

Nah I think he will adress the tea blogs and I think it will start an uprising of whiteknighting stannies going to our askboxes like “Told you so, Sean wants you to deactivate so do it!”

All we need to do is stay strong, don’t listen to him if that happens, and ESPECIALLY not shut up because of that. Him not being able to listen to feedback and criticism needs to be adressed + we need to exist in order to call out the toxic ones in the community. We also need to be around to adress Gab’s racism and stuff like that. 2020 is not the year we deactivate. No matter what the video is going to turn out like.

[quantumuncertainty]

yeah okay sure, Lily, aka kentucky.fried.cringe, aka Madison. what was your disabled account username then? how come you, "Lily", just happened to magically spawn into existence? where are your other social media accounts? you're still Madison though. Madison's whiteknight "friends" typically never reveal their face nor show any proof of their identity or them being a seperate person. why? because if YOU, Madison, tried to find a photo online to use, it would be reverse image searched and traced back. you really suck at pretending to be other people on alt accounts. you lack at making fake art styles as well and its so obvious. you don't even TRY to type in a different writing or typing style for these fake ass accounts.

[werewolf-cuddles]

And I just saw one of Lily’s whiteknights calling Josh a “pussy” for “not being able to handle a bit of shit talking”.

Never fucking mind that many of the things Lily has said about Josh go beyond shit talking and straight into slander/libel territory.

[spokenmind93]

Absolutely not a whiteknight, guys!

Josh has been busy with the Toon case since the start of it all. In the end, it didn’t stick, mostly because idiots like Vida leaked all the private information before they had the chance to bring it to the police.

Josh has been busy with comforting the victims and is not fucking boasting it around like he is the Holy Lord. Also, I’m quite sure that Josh and the rest have been trying to let the victims HEAL and get them ACTUAL help and not let them hang onto their anger. 

And now, he’s in his full right to finally bring Lily to justice. Lily has done nothing but slander Josh and sends hate mob after hate mob after Josh and his friends while Josh BEGGED for people not to go after Lily in his videos. Something Lily willingly ignored because she has admitted to never watching the videos.

You might say you’re not whiteknighting her but it sure seems like it.

[takashi0]

Hey Takashi, who's this Lily person and what did they do?

Lily Peet is a contrarian, Corporate Shill, Far Left, Sociopathic parasite in the brony community who openly despises bronies and uses any possible opportunity to slander us as a whole despite being a prominent member of the circlejerk community of brony analysis.

But I’m guessing you meant What did they do RECENTLY, which is using the ToonKritic scandal and the existence of Rule 34 and Clopfics to paint the entire fandom as either pedophiles or pedo apologists. 

This despite being most well-known in the fandom for making underage rapefics and for whiteknighting for Pinkiepony when she tried that exact same type of slander crusade, but calling us rapists and rape apologists instead.

She’s kind of a massive piece of shit, in fact. 

[the-smiling-pony]

Lily Peet is seriously using the Toonkritik drama to accuse the entire fandom of being pedos or pedo apologists and I'm just sitting here thinking "Hey asshole, remember how the thing you're most famous for is writing foalcon rape fics so fucked up that it makes A Serbian Film look tame and then having the audacity to white knight for APM even though it doesn't even come CLOSE to being as explicit as what YOU did?"

I think you mean he whiteknighted for DWM despite APM being tame.

And Peet kinda spread art of Pinkiepony’s character getting violently raped. Whether to fuel the drama or so they could criticize such things is something we’ll never know because they’ll never acknowledge it. They still pretend Tara Callie was a real person, after all.

But anyway, yeah, projection and hypocrisy.