#lillie sm anime

[coern-art-very-cool-and-nice]

im proud of the lighting on this one reference on the right 👉 (btw, if anybody knows the image source pls lmk!! I'd like to give credit if necessary)

[rinrirnnnnnrin]

Lillies’ Full Force

[lecrepuscule3]

Lillie is favorite character from SM / USUM , I really love her evolution and I take the opportunity to test a new style too ^^

[kakusu-shipping]

I have a little habit of picking from Traits I think are Fun and applying them to Self Inserts I think are a little bland, and for my Sun and Moon S/I this became "Inexplicably hated by animals" which is a very unfortunate trait to have in the Pokemon World.

[perenlop]

Man I have such mixed feelings on anime Lusamine. On one hand, she may as well be a completely different character from the main series canon Lusamine, her relationship with Lillie is totally overhauled and doesn’t have much to do with what Lusamine did in the game. And from what I’ve seen, there is a compelling story arc about how she’s dismissive of her daughter and doesn’t pay much attention to her, to the point Lillie was traumatized under her watch and she didn’t realize until her son spelled it out, and she tries to remedy that after she’s kidnapped. She has different mannerisms and motives and quirks and she may as well be a random woman wearing game Lusamine’s skin. And I’ll comment how I feel about her arc when I’ve actually seen it in full, but from what I know they handle it well and it’s nothing like “You owe your mother unconditional love and care even if she abuses you”.

But on the other hand this portrayal of her directly contributed to TPCI and the fandom going “Omg Lusamine’s just a sad quirky mom who made an oopsie one time, teehee actually her children are brats and stupid for not bowing to her every whim, and actually Faba was the REAL villain this whole time (even though she employed him and was 100% down with the Type Null stuff)” and I can’t help but resent it for that.

[supergirlytreiner]

Poketober Day 7: Rock Type

You look like me...

[jadeazora]

Anime Lusamine isn't really a villain, just kinda neglectful/oblivious due to work and being focused on her UB research, but still counting her anyway for her game counterpart. (After playing thru SM where she was a total bitch to Lillie, it was a whiplash that she was toned down that much.)

I like all three of the dub voices, but Masters again has the best pick. There's some condescending "kindness" there in a few of her lines that really shows thru more there. They really keep knocking it outta the park there with the VAs they choose. 😅

[leggerefiore]

I don't think I can ever write for Ghetsis because half his dialogue is stuff that actually deeply upsets me, and I can't like him ever because of how he treated N (whom I've loved since I was like 9).

I have similar reasons for Lusamine and how she treats Lillie and Gladion, too, actually. (I know the anime fixed her or something, but how she acted in SM is forever ingrained into my mind.)

Sada and Turo can pass because they did actually love Arven even if they were shit at parenting. Giovanni for similar reasons. He does love Silver in my mind; he's just a yakuza and thus sucks at being a parent.

Every other villain is okay because they're either too funny to take seriously or just have enough backstory for me to work with.

[merlucide]

WHAT ARE YOU???

*again I’m bored so, I’m telling u how I see u* Sharkie (oki)

a color I’ve associated with you: yellow-green #e1f7b7 (idk lol)

an animal: THOSE GOLDEN TIGERSSS OMG PLS AT FIRST I WAS LIKE MAYBE A PUPPY OR A BABY SEAL BUT LOOOK AT THEESE BABIES 😭

a food: fluffy pancakes with fresh cut fruits and a cup of cold water (yes, all of that)

a season: summer/autumn (idk I see both)

a song I associate with you: 1 2 3 (idk I hear them and I think about chu loll)

a time of the day: 12pm and 12am lol

a smell: lillies and pennies (don’t ask lmao 💀)

a taste: Yk that when you put your necklace chain in your mouth- and it tastes good- yeah that taste 👍👍 and blue raspberry

a part of nature: a hidden river in the woods that connects to the ocean. It has water lilies and those like those forbidden corn dogs growing there. Oh and tons of like wildlife live there too

a piece of clothing: a fuzzy sweater/hoodie that’s keeps you warm

an everyday object: a fork (you use them to eat and they are nice to hold and they look nice 🧍‍♀️ idk you seem like a fork to me)

a number: 26 (idk how to explain that one lol)

a word: pocket

another word: sweetener

a flower: clematis or hydrangeas

first thoughts on you: I thought you were so nice and good vibe- I love that sm like you make me laugh with ur silly prompts. Idk I just like your vibe, it makes me rlly happy. Oh and the way you word stuff too- idk why but like it makes me happy 😭😭

things I like about chu: YOU ARE SO FUNNY ISTG😭😭 ITS LIKE 1AM AND IM TRYING TO TO WAKE UP YHE WHOLE HOUSE CUS JM LAUGHING SO HARD. and ur so nice, i feel so loved and seen by u, you make your girl feel good 🫶

SO YAAAAAAAH

[princess-of-the-corner]

Important Context: Lusamine in Sun and Moon was canonically, in the text of the game itself, infected with alien neurotoxins that removed her inhibitions and amplified her character flaws.

Once they were flushed from her system, she immediately stopped verbally abusing her daughter, and Lillie even took her to Kanto to try and get medical treatment from fusing with Nihilego.

Lillie does not, at any point, decide to cut Lusamine out of her life. Indeed, the final battle against Lusamine is the result of Lillie chasing her into another dimension to rescue her.

Lusamine in the anime is a loving-yet-neglectful/absent parent who Lillie somewhat resents due to said mother disregarding Lillie's own desires and feelings even as she otherwise dotes on her, with the two often butting heads. As Lusamine is a protagonist instead of an antagonist, a good chunk of her arc is based around repairing her relationships with her children. While she's still obsessed with the Ultra Beasts, it's nowhere NEAR the extent of her in-game counterpart, not until she ends up getting abducted by and fused with Nihilego, and her womanchild tendencies are cranked up to a disturbing level.

In Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, Lusamine's abuse is FAR less severe, with her being more of an overprotective control freak than anything. with her being in opposition to the player because she believes she's good enough to defeat Necrozma. She's reimagined as a well-intentioned extremist who's trying to protect Alola from the game's ACTUAL main villain: Necrozma, with the conflict mostly boiling down to Lusamine being unwilling to admit that she's in over her head. The story is FAR weaker than Sun and Moon as a result.

Ah hm.

Yeah I think I like the original SM better. That sounds fascinating.

The anime kinda sounds like an AU where Lusamine gets some fucking help for the neurotoxins before the plot kicks off, but the plot still kicks off. So we're getting a post SM personality during the events of SM. (to compare, I'm kinda seeing this like what I did with Enji in the Amnesia!Dabi AU. He gets help earlier but the plot is still happening around him.)

USUM sounds like it just went off the rails.

[love-for-burgundy-blog]

I gotta say that Lillie's story in Pokemon Sun and Moon anime probably has become my favorite out of all of Ash's traveling companions, yes even Iris.

I just finished the arc where Lillie, Gladion, and the rest of the Alola gang save Lusamine from Nihilego (if that's how you spell it idk) and I was very invested into the storylines. I was rooting for everyone to save Lusamine since she seems like she legitimately loves her children in the anime. It was also pretty adorable when Lillie completely got over her phobia of touching pokemon and she got down on the ground, called Snowy (her Alolan Vulpix), Pikachu, and some other pokemon and gave them all a big hug and nuzzled them. I will admit that before watching any SM, I thought Lillie was overrated and somewhat whiny, now my opinion on her has completely changed and I think she so far is one of the best written characters in the Pokemon Anime.

Side note: In the episode where Professor Kukui and Professor Burnett get married, I found it adorable when they were prounonced Husband and Wife and Lana and Mallow cheered while Jumping up and down and hugging each other. Those girls are bestie goals!! I also found it funny how dramatic Faba is while apologizing to everyone after the whole incident, so much so that when he gets demoted by Lusamine, he fully accepts his new demotion. Completely unlike his past character lol.

[spyres]

Sending my evil influence to give you the floor to say why you hate USUM

okay so i do want to give a disclaimer that i haven't beaten either sm or usum since they released. i feel like my memory on them is still good enough to say my piece but just keep in mind that i may be wrong about some details and i can own up to that if i am.

since we're talking about sm and usum cw for parental abuse towards children

okay i will say upfront that i do think in terms of gameplay i fully admit that usum is superior. a lot of the stuff it added doesn't really apply to me (i only use pokemon that were introduced in that generation so usum's expanded pokedex is for the most part meaningless to me, and it kinda annoyed me how i was forced to play mantine surf to get to akala when i just wanted to get there immediately). the options are still nice to have, they just didn't add much to my personal experience, which is why i'm mostly coming at this from a story perspective. the ultra wormhole stuff was fucking awesome though i loved that.

so: sm. while i wouldn't say its depiction of abuse was perfect (lusamine was forgiven way too easily imo) i still appreciate the way it came at it. the nihilego poison was a reason behind lusamine's actions, but it didn't excuse them. lillie still got to give her amazing speech to her mother about how children aren't just dolls and gladion is a little more on the fence about it iirc, so there were at least still some repercussions for lusamine in that regard. it's a story that hit very hard at the time of release because while my mom isn't abusive, our relationship was very rocky when i was 16, so sm was very cathartic for me. i'd imagine it'd still resonate deeply with me to this day if i were to replay it even though our relationship has improved since then.

so the tldr of that is that sm had a slightly flawed but still brilliant portrayal of familial abuse that blended in very well with the overall theme of different family dynamics (also shown through guzma/team skull in general, hau and his grandfather, etc.)

so usum just completely shat all over that with how they handled the aether family.

it's like genuinely pretty offensive to me with how lusamine's abuse was portrayed here. she's not under any sort of influence because of nihilego here, she's just naturally very nasty and cruel to her children. lillie doesn't get to give her her speech and gladion literally says something along the lines of "she's not so bad because she's our mother." LIKE WHAT!!!!!! you take away the understandable (but not justifiable) reasoning as to why she was cruel in sm so that she's just always horrible and then take away the few repercussions she faces to have her be excused entirely??? this just feels like abuse apologism. it leaves such an icky taste in my mouth. and derailing into the anime for a quick second here, that also had a weird portrayal of lusamine too. i wouldn't say it was as bad as it is in usum, since it did ultimately stick closer to sm, but it was just sort of weird with them making lusamine's main issue be that she's just sort of overbearing and making faba into the real villain (who also gets let off with a slap on the wrist despite being responsible for the trauma lillie held on to for years).

like that's the main reason why i can't go back to usum over sm. i just feel gross playing it.

and to be fair, this game did do guzma and hau better in terms of writing, but why did it have to portray the aether family in that way as well. i don't even really remember what they did with hau aside from making him the final battle (and tbh i felt like kukui was still a better final boss. i like hau, but the "rival as a champion" thing was done much more effectively in the kanto games imo.)

also rainbow rocket was dumb and cringe and i never even bothered finishing it. to this day (aside from bdsp because i didn't play that) it's the only postgame pokemon story i haven't beaten. i tolerated fucking sordward and sheilbert but not this. also i heard that ghetsis physically shoves lillie to the ground in his section and i genuinely need him to die for it. and worst of all they took hot archie away from us 😔

like i won't deny that usum added a lot of neat features and sidequests that made alola feel more alive (and i already loved alola in sm) but i cannot for the life of me get past how gross the story makes me feel.

[stars-n-zeds]

Hiii I really enjoy your tugs ocs, and I was wondering if you had any other fun facts or doodles of them.

@6lovelytenders (because the fact you can't send asks from a sideblog infuriates me)

aahhh thank you sm for liking them!! they’re very much my beloveds [also yes it is very aggravating you can’t send asks from sideblogs but that’s another time]

this is my actually decent first attempt at a half-body design for mockingbird! and if you're wondering yes that is boo perched on her

Mockingbird is GREAT at mimicking bird calls [obviously like her namesake] and it’s a little quirk she picked up from living upriver since there were so many more birds at her old port.

She also has very extensive albeit pretty useless knowledge about all sorts of animals, whether they be land, air, or water.

Mockingbird is biromantic! She likes guys and gals.

She’s taught Boo a few basic words like hello, friend, bye, and trouble. He’s been trained to come back repeating “Trouble, trouble!” whenever he spots something wrong, like a ship needing help and similar situations.

She's VERY quick to defend Sea Rogue whenever anyone tries to bring up the pirate situation upriver since word of it got there. Hell no is anyone gonna try to accuse her older brother of being an actual damn pirate. [i do want to do a post ab this in the future hehe]

Boo is also very fond of bringing Mockingbird trinkets, making a neat little pile at the top of her dock that is specifically off limits for workers who clean her off every now and then.

Contrary to popular belief, Boo doesn't only hang out with Mockingbird [even though he does a majority of the time] and actually will hang out with Zebedee too, as he's the only one of the Z-Stacks that doesn't flip out when he lands on them [besides zos of course, she doesn't really care].

Boo also has a weird feud with Top Hat since the railway tug really doesn't like birds, but he knows better than to make a snide remark about the crow whenever Mockingbird's around otherwise he'll definitely get an earful. [or whatever the tug equivalent of ears are]

In more general headcanons, here's what I imagine both Mockingbird and Zosteria's voices to sound like!

Mockingbird-

Zosteria -

[very VERY different from each other but they fit both characters pretty well]

While Zosteria does look pretty intimidating and it can be a little difficult getting close to her since she's so tough-shelled, once she lets her walls down a bit she's a great listener and gives pretty good advice.

She definitely has a soft spot for younger tugs and tries to look out for their well-being, even from afar.

One rule of thumb that you should always remember when you're around Zos is to never try to wake her up after a long day unless it's absolutely necessary. Because you'll have a considerately grouchier and angrier Zosteria on your hands, which is is not a very fun time.

Although she'll never admit it aloud, Zosteria has a big soft spot for dogs. She's the one that pushed [well, more so forced] Captain Zero into giving food scraps to the small packs of stray dogs that live around and in Bigg City Port, and she secretly hopes one of them will imprint on her hard-shelled captain one day. One day!

She has a very sarcastic and dry sense of humor which is very true to the current situation of the 1920s/1930s.

Zos doesn't really tell the story of her scar that often because it's source is actually pretty stupid, and she finds it funny listening to boats come up with some WILD ways she got it.

Zosteria is very AroAce. No romantic or sexual relationships for her, the only ones important to her are platonic ones.

Though it might not seem like it from first glance, Zosteria has many, many stories she's willing to tell to those who want to listen.

I didn't mention this on Zos's main bio but she also considers Lillie as a decently close friend. Zosteria and Hercules are the main ships Lillie sees from her point at Dem Der Rocks, and it's always nice to just meet up there and talk whenever they want a little bit more time away from their fleets. [although Zosteria is always quick to skedaddle whenever Lillie and Hercules want to be alone with each other]

Something else I also forgot to mention is that Zosteria and Zip are supposed to be a reflection of Hercules and Ten Cents, mostly because I love the younger switcher sibling looking up to their older ocean tug sibling VERY much.

i'll probably make more as i develop them [and hopefully others!] more, but that's all i got for now :)

[perenlop]

sometimes the anime will unnecessarily change a certain character’s team from what it was in the game and i’ll be like “sure but why?” most of the time. but then they occasionally get it SO good that i’m like “yeah no why didnt the game do that?”

that’s how i am with gladion here. i dont really remember the rest of his SM team but i like that they just gave him every “edgy” pokemon in the area. like truly all i think he Needs in his team is silvally and maybe crobat for the friendship evolution, but the anime gives him umbreon instead so that covers it anyways and in a better way imo

[dysfunctional-family-fight]

Round One

The Asanos (Assassination Classroom) VS the Aether family (Pokémon Sun & Moon)

The Asanos

Members: Gakuhou Asano (father) and Gakushuu Asano (son)

Propaganda:

CW: physical abuse

"Crazy dad whose misguided goal is just to make his son strong (but whose definition of real strength leaves much to be desired), and son who does see the error in his dad's ways but is brainwashed enough to imagine that his "filial duty" under the circumstances is to "take control". No one knows for sure if a mom exists, but she clearly doesn't want to have much to do with these lunatics." "The dad doesn't even consider his son family, just a "student" as he is a principal. Utterly unhumane conditions is where he trains his son in. And worst of all, they compete on who will control the other, leash included. The first time the son even considers calling him father is when he literally abuses him physically."

The Aether family

Members: Lusamine, Mohn, Gladion, Lillie

Propaganda:

"So Lusamine and Mohn are a pair of married scientists researching Ultra Wormholes and then Mohn gets sucked into one. Not great. Lusamine does not react well, and becomes obsessed with Ultra Beasts in order to find him again but in the process she starts mistreating her kids. Like she forced Lillie to dress like fuckin Nihilego. Anyway Gladion eventually steals the Aether foundation’s Type:Null and runs away. Then Lillie steals Cosmog (Nebby) and runs away. This leads to them meeting the player and the plot of the games. Also Mohn’s still in Alola he has amnesia and he’s running the bean minigame where you feed your pokemon beans. Depending on what version you’re looking at they get various endings. In the original SM games Lusamine is knocked into a coma after being possessed by Nihilego and Lillie takes her to Kanto for treatment bc she’s still her mom. Same in the manga. In the Ultra games Lusamine kinda redeems herself and she finds Mohn again but chooses to not tell him who he is because he’s happier with amnesia. I haven’t been keeping with the anime but iirc Lusamine’s nicer there and they do find Mohn again."

[jadeazora]

I feel like, if Pokemon wasn't an anime for children, that Spinel has the potential to be one of our creepiest Pokeani antagonists ever, and the only thing really stopping him atm is either not knowing of the significance of the connection between the pendant and Liko, or not viewing it as important, compared to Amethio anyway.

But if he does learn of the importance of their connection, it's very dangerous information for him to have. We already see that he's not above using his Beheeyem to brainwash and alter the memories of people, that's what he does to Liko here. (Like, comparatively, Faba tries to erase Lillie's memories again in SM, but he's prevented from doing so, both by TR having some standards and Ash and co. intervening.)

Really what's stopping him from pulling something akin to Tsukishima and altering her memories, like "No, Liko, it's ok. I'm your friend and have saved you from these evil RVT people who only want to try to take your pendant. Come with me and I can keep you safe."