#lili diana mountbatten windsor

[ingek73]

This is amazing, well done Sussex Squad, & from ALL continents!

[theiconicmeghanmarkle]

Prince Harry describes the moment he helped to bring his daughter into the world.

"When the doctor said it was a matter of minutes, I told Meg that I wanted mine to be the first face our little girl saw."

The Duke later added: "I slid my hands under the tiny back and neck. Gently, but firmly, as I'd seen in films, I pulled our precious daughter from that world into this, and cradled her just a moment, trying to smile at her, to see her, but honestly, I couldn't see anything.

I wanted to say: Hello. I wanted to say: Where have you come from?

I wanted to say: Is it better there? Is it peaceful? Are you frightened? Don't be, don’t be, all will be well. I'll keep you safe."

[yongyuan-st]

Happy 2nd birthday to Princess Lilibet 'Lili' Diana of Sussex. (b. June 4, 2021). 💗

[harryandmeghansussex]

Happy Kiss A Ginger Day to Meghan's redheaded loves! 🧡

[sassyfrassboss]

I’m going to hell for saying this, but I think the reason H&M don’t publicly shill their kids is because they’re really not photogenic. Just based off of the pictures we have seen of them. They’ve already monetised the kids before (Netflix bath pictures, Archie’s H&M outift), but I can see them not doing so more simply because they just aren’t conventionally beautiful. How a kid looks shouldn’t matter, but I can see H&M being shallow enough to care - especially given how photogenically cute Charlotte was at that age.

Also, those kids are 1/4 black - they’re not biracial. The older they get and more clear that is, the more people will quickly get sick of H&M weaponising very serious and very real racial issues over kids that will never face the same discrimination as a black person.

I'm going to be joining you in Hell because I agree with you.

When you look at everything we have seen of those kids we get photos from the side or out of focus. Heck, Lili's 1st birthday photo was heavily edited to make her look more Windsor and they gave her red hair.

It has to kill Meghan because when she sees the Wales kids.

George is starting to look like a Windsor more and more and he has those golden locks.

Charlotte is a carbon copy of William, aka Diana.

Louis is Catherine's mini-me.

I think there was a reason we never got infant photos of Lili. I believe, even though she is only 1/4 black, that when she was born her skin color was darker than Meghan would have preferred. Over time her skin lightened, as pigments tend to lighten or darken, but yeah...

Also, Archie's hair is brown. Not red.

I also think those kids look way more like Tom Markle, aka Meghan before the plastic surgery, than they do the Windsor's.

Meghan really wanted a Diana mini-me like Charlotte but she forgot to take into account that Harry looks way more like the Mountbatten side of his family and he has zero Spencer in him.

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

I’m sure this would have been mentioned but could they have changed their last name to Sussex so that when Meghan divorces Harry she has the Sussex surname instead of Markle so she keeps the Royal connection?

No. Meghan's surname has legally been Sussex since May 19, 2018.

It's the children who haven't been able to use 'Sussex' as a surname. The "we finally have the same last name" comment is meant to cause outrage in people who don't know what has really been happening or how titles and styles work. It's a 'fuck you' to Charles.

Meghan still gets to keep the title after a divorce. Under the divorce protocols, Meghan becomes Meghan, Duchess of Sussex instead of Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, as she has been known since Megxit*. Meghan, Duchess of Sussex becomes her title for life unless she remarries and takes her new husband's name; however, that is only an assumption. Neither Diana nor Sarah have remarried so we don't actually know where the palace actually stands on this.

*Meghan's full official title is Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Sussex but use of the HRH went into abeyance per the terms of the Sandringham Summit/Megxit. The HRHs still belong to her and Harry, they just can't use them. This is why they're fighting so hard for half in/half out - being "in" (even if only part time) lets them use their HRHs again.

Keep reading for how the Sussex title conversation got to where it is today...

A disclaimer first - I'm not an expert by any means on titles. My knowledge on titles comes from the royal books I've read and it is totally possible I may be wrong on any of this.

When Harry was getting married, Queen Elizabeth gave him a new title, The Duke of Sussex, as a wedding gift. This is an important distinction to make - the title was given to Harry only, not to Harry and Meghan. (I see a lot of newer fans/royal watchers making this mistake.) When Meghan married Harry and became his wife, she took The Duchess of Sussex as her new married name (with Duchess being the female equivalent of Duke). Meghan is also able to use Harry's HRH in this way too; she only has HRH because it's Harry's and she assumed it as part of his Duke of Sussex surname.

Royal family protocol is that if you have a title - whether it's your own or courtesy of your husband or father - then that title becomes your surname. Hence Kate calling herself Mrs. Cambridge and George being registered for school as George Cambridge. If you don't have a title, then you use the family's surname, Mountbatten-Windsor.

Princess Anne was the first person to use Mountbatten-Windsor in an official capacity when she signed the marriage register with Mark Phillips. Lady Louise (Edward and Sophie's daughter) is the first person to actually be known with Mountbatten-Windsor as her surname; her actual name is Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor. And also William used Mountbatten-Windsor as his surname when he sued over Kate's topless photos, which suggests that the titled members of the family may use Mountbatten-Windsor in a personal capacity.

Because Harry and Meghan declined titles for their children, Archie and Lili's surname at birth were Mountbatten-Windsor. So the family was The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor, and Miss Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor. Even if Harry and Meghan had allowed their children to use their titles from birth, they still all would've had different surnames: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, the Earl of Dumbarton, and Lady Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor.

But now that Archie and Lili are grandchildren of the monarchy and eligible to use HRH Prince/Princess honorifics (per the 1917 letters patent), Harry and Meghan have changed their minds on allowing Archie and Lili to use titles. So now Archie and Lili can use their own titles (technically Harry's title) and now everyone finally has the same surname under family protocol of using Dad's title as their surname - all four of them are now legally HRH ____ of Sussex, even though the HRHs are in abeyance.

This is where the 'eff you' to Charles comes in: if the BRF had just done a new letters patent for Harry and Meghan's kids when she was pregnant with Archie (as they did for William and Kate) then all of this would have been avoided in the first place. So in Harry and Meghan's eyes, it's the BRF's fault they're weren't a 'real' family until just now when they all began using the Sussex surname.

Other than remarrying after a divorce or Harry's death, the only way Meghan loses Sussex is if the title is removed from Harry - voluntarily, by Parliament, or by Charles. If Harry doesn't have the title, then Meghan can't use the title and neither can the children. If this were to happen, then Harry becomes The Prince Harry ('The' signifying he is the son of the reigning monarch), Meghan becomes The Princess Harry, and I'm not sure what Archie and Lili get.

In this case, I can see Harry and Meghan legally changing their family's surname from Mountbatten-Windsor to Sussex so the family can continue being Sussex without Harry having the title but I can't see anyone taking it away at this point, even if Parliament did change the laws. What's probably more likely is a letters patent from Charles that converts the Sussex title from "Harry and the heirs male of his body lawfully begotten" to just Harry and only for his lifetime (as Charles awarded Edward the Duke of Edinburgh title).

[the-empress-7]

Rumor tracking anon here. I'll submit 3 posts tallying everything up since otherwise this would be too ridiculously long.

Also, I've set up @brf-rumortrackinganon if anyone wants to follow me there. No idea how to submit as brf-rumortrackinganon instead of my main (since I've forgotten a lot about how tumblr works) but I will work on that.

PLAUSIBLE

These are rumors/theories that could be true or they could be lies. There hasn't been any solid facts yet to say so definitively one way or the other, just my gut feelings as I was reading.

Everything is from Spare unless noted otherwise.

Sussexes were sidelined during the Queen’s funeral/mourning period because of their behavior while the Queen was dying (eg Harry insisting Meghan accompany him to Balmoral).

Sussex treatment at the Queen’s funeral/during the mourning period was a direct consequence of their behavior during the Jubilee.

Meghan was never pregnant, used a surrogate/gestational carrier in her pregnancies.

Meghan planned pap walks in Windsor to lay flowers at the memorials while crowds waited for William and Kate, or possibly while the royals were all in Scotland still.

Sussexes had a hand in the Ngozi Fulani/Susan Hessey racism row. (Interview – Harry’s strong defense supporting Susan, which contradicted BP and KP, which neither he nor Meghan ever did before.)

Harry’s military stories as written in Spare were not his experience, he stole them from others he served with.

Rumor tracking anon - post #2 of 3

BUSTED

These are rumors / theories proven false. Everything is from Spare unless otherwise noted.

Sussexes threatened to blackball any media organization that gives interviews or publicity to Tom Bower/Revenge.

Harry’s memoir wasn’t what the publisher expected so PRH will bury it between Michelle Obama’s new book and Matthew Perry’s upcoming memoir.

Meghan wanted to re-edit Harry’s memoir to counter Bower’s allegations point-by-point.

Harry to give interview for Spare to Gayle King for CBS.

Harry’s book to be published and released in November 2022 for holiday sales.

Meghan and Harry have been separated since early summer 2022, Harry lives in San Francisco by himself.

William and Harry divided their mother’s jewelry between them and Harry chose the sapphire ring but he later swapped it with William for something else so it could be Kate’s engagement ring and worn by a Queen as Diana wished.

William stole Diana’s engagement ring from Harry (and therefore Meghan) to propose to Kate.

Harry’s 4 book deal involves: 1) Harry’s memoir from birth to meeting Meghan, 2) Harry’s memoir from meeting Meghan to the present, 3) Meghan’s memoir, 4) book on parenting.

Harry’s first memoir to be about Diana and the circumstances of her death.

Harry’s book postponed indefinitely.

Harry to rewrite his memoir to be more favorable to the royal family following Queen’s death and Charles’s ascension.

Harry’s book delayed to add chapters about Sussex split and divorce.

Charles to give Archie and Lili titles if Harry drops his memoir.

Harry’s book to cover William’s affair with Rose in great detail.

Harry to claim the IRA was behind Diana’s death like they were Lord Mountbatten’s death.

Harry to claim Charles’s inner circle was behind Lord Mountbatten and Diana’s deaths.

Diana is secretly alive.

Valentine Low’s book Courtiers will cause Sussexes to spiral – Harry to leave Meghan and return to the UK, Meghan to go into a narc rage and file lawsuits. (Interviews - Harry still living in US.)

Harry’s book to allege the BRF arranged Diana’s death to look like an accident.

Harry eloped with Meghan in Botswana on the second or third date.

Harry will attack Philip in new memoirs, reveal racism and classism against Meghan.

Rumor tracking anon - post #3 of 3

CONFIRMED.

These are rumors / theories proven true. Everything is from Spare unless otherwise noted.

Harry has an inferiority complex against William and plays “anything you an do I can do better” games via PR because of it.

Meghan’s neediness/insecurity lost Harry all his friends.

Sussex security lawsuits are because of Harry’s active-duty Afghanistan service and his belief that because he killed Taliban soldiers, they’re out for him.

Meghan and Harry’s drug/substance abuse issues are true.

Meghan wanted Diana’s tiaras for the wedding.

Archie pregnancy was announced at Eugenie’s wedding to family.

Meghan made Kate cry.

Sussexes planned a year-long PR strategy to reconcile with The Queen after the Netflix series and Harry’s memoir came out, probably saying they were pushed into being mean by producers/editors, to get more material for new content.

Since The Queen died, the reconciliation strategy reshifted its focus to Charles and William - they want back in for coronation and investiture content.

Meghan was clearly uninvited or disinvited to Balmoral as the Queen was dying.

Sussex tantrums delayed the others from the chance to be with The Queen before she died.

Sussexes were told off for their behavior while the Queen was dying.

Memoir was delayed to add content about Jubilee and Queen’s Funeral.

Meghan was furious about the way she was treated at the funeral but will pretend it doesn’t bother her to support the reconciliation strategy.

Harry’s memoir to be published in 2023.

Meghan leaked/planted stories that William forbade her from traveling to Balmoral.

Harry to go on a US book tour of Spare; no visits to the UK.

Charlotte’s bridesmaid dress was intentionally poorly-made/poorly-fitted.

Meghan wanted an emerald tiara or a bigger-than-Mary’s-tiara for the wedding.

Sussexes wanted a big London wedding with a balcony kiss and appearance afterwards.

Diana’s engagement ring had always belonged to William, was never in Harry’s possession.

Sussexes take freebies from companies despite it being against royal protocols and standards of conduct.

Meghan used freebies to justify her behavior towards KP staff.

Harry never kicked his teenage drug problem.

The BRF / Charles covered up Harry’s behavior and drug issues.

Harry’s book to go after William and Kate to delegitimize their royal status and office.

Royal family parentified William to Harry after Diana’s death.

Harry sees Kate as a “wicked stepmother”-like figure who stole William from him.

Meghan to write a tell-all about the BRF.

Meghan manipulated or threatened her staff/bullying victims (requiring NDAs, threatening to give bad references, holding their mistakes over them, etc.) to keep them from reporting mistreatment.

Meghan is jealous of Kate because of what she means to Harry and presented to Harry and Charles as Kate’s physical opposite.

Harry is in love with Kate in a not-brotherly way. (Interview)

Harry wants to move back to the UK. (Interview)

Meghan intends to sell her private journals from being a royal for large profit. (Interview)

Lawyers were involved with the book because of inconsistencies and demands to edit out inflammatory parts. (Scobie confirmed with a tweet about 50 pages being removed.)

All bridesmaid dresses were poorly made / poorly fitted except Ivy’s.

Meghan was an escort or involved in pay-for-play Soho schemes.

Sussex bullying allegations are true.

Camilla didn’t want to marry Charles, just wanted to stay his longtime companion in Gloucester. (Anonymous friends defense)

No ranking members of the BRF speak to the Sussexes due to risk of private conversations being used for public content / public argument. (Post-Spare article saying they speak through lawyers)

All necessary information the Sussexes need are shared via embassy, consulates, and secure lines to prevent direct 1:1 contact between Sussexes and senior royals.

Charles communicates with/handles Harry through writing only.

Meghan had a heavy hand in the writing of Harry’s memoir.

Harry never actually saw any combat, so claims that he killed 25 Taliban are an embellishment to justify need for security and IPP status.

Harry suffers from drug-induced paranoia and memory loss.

Harry to lash out over criticism about his book and silence from the BRF.

Meghan made up and spread the rumor about William having had an affair. (Post-Spare articles)

Harry used active-duty Afghanistan service to justify need for a more expensive wedding than William.

[royal-confessions]

“It's not unusual to see Lillibet Mountbatten Windsor be referred to as Lili Diana by certain people even though Meghan has only ever called her Lili, I think this is to emphasise the relationship to Princess Diana. Princess Charlotte also has Diana as a middle name and the same relationship with Princess Diana but she she never gets called by her middle names.” - Submitted by Anonymous

[taratarotgreene]

Happy 2nd Birthday Princess Lilibet of Sussex

Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor Astrology, Born to be famous Read the original post I made about Lilibet at her birth which I predicted when Megan was going into labor on Twitter. https://taragreene.medium.com/lilibet-diana-mountbatten-windsor-astrology-born-to-be-famous-b2e9e8c5493c LILIBET Solar Return June 4, 2023 Lili has 29 Leo AC/Rising sign. The sign of Royalty, actors and…

[technewslive]

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle Share Photo of Daughter Lilibet

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle Share Photo of Daughter Lilibet

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s daughter, Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor, arrived into the world on June 4, 2021. In June 2022, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex released a photo of Lilibet, taken by photographer Misan Harriman, giving the world a first look at their daughter as she celebrated her 1st birthday during her first trip to the UK. Lilibet also met some members of the royal…

[theiconicmeghanmarkle]

Princess Lilibet wore the 'Carine' dress from dôen in 'Bluebell Hillside Bloom' for the 4th of July parade in Montecito, CA.

Meghan wore the Boden striped pants, Valentino sunglasses, with a striped sweater and a crisp white button shirt.

[yongyuan-st]

Lili and her mom and dad. 💖

[blackculturenews]

Prince Harry And Duchess Meghan Reveal Tyler Perry Is the Godfather to Their Daughter, Lili

Prince Harry And Duchess Meghan Reveal Tyler Perry Is the Godfather to Their Daughter, Lili

Media mogul Tyler Perry confirmed in the final episode of Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s new Netflix docuseries, that he is godfather to the couple’s daughter, Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor.

[ingek73]

[brf-rumortrackinganon]

Busted

These are all the rumors and theories that have been resolved as “busted” or proven lies. This post will be updated as things happen.

Harry’s Spare

Sussexes threatened to blackball any media organization that gives interviews or publicity to Tom Bower/Revenge.

Harry’s memoir wasn’t what the publisher expected so PRH will bury it between Michelle Obama’s new book and Matthew Perry’s upcoming memoir.

Meghan wanted to re-edit Harry’s memoir to counter Bower’s allegations point-by-point.

Harry to give interview for Spare to Gayle King for CBS.

Harry’s book to be published and released in November 2022 for holiday sales.

Meghan and Harry have been separated since early summer 2022, Harry lives in San Francisco by himself.

William and Harry divided their mother’s jewelry between them and Harry chose the sapphire ring but he later swapped it with William for something else so it could be Kate’s engagement ring and worn by a Queen as Diana wished.

William stole Diana’s engagement ring from Harry (and therefore Meghan) to propose to Kate.

Harry’s 4 book deal involves: 1) Harry’s memoir from birth to meeting Meghan, 2) Harry’s memoir from meeting Meghan to the present, 3) Meghan’s memoir, 4) book on parenting

Harry’s first memoir to be about Diana and the circumstances of her death.

Harry’s book postponed indefinitely.

Harry to rewrite his memoir to be more favorable to the royal family following Queen’s death and Charles’s ascension.

Harry’s book delayed to add chapters about Sussex split and divorce.

Charles to give Archie and Lili titles if Harry drops his memoir.

Harry’s book to cover William’s affair with Rose in great detail.

Harry to claim the IRA was behind Diana’s death like they were Lord Mountbatten’s death.

Harry to claim Charles’s inner circle was behind Lord Mountbatten and Diana’s deaths.

Diana is secretly alive.

Valentine Low’s book Courtiers will cause Sussexes to spiral – Harry to leave Meghan and return to the UK, Meghan to go into a narc rage and file lawsuits.

Harry’s book to allege the BRF arranged Diana’s death to look like an accident.

Harry eloped with Meghan in Botswana on the second or third date.

Harry will attack Philip in new memoirs, reveal racism and classism against Meghan.

Tina Brown, The Palace Papers

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Tom Bower, Revenge

Harry arranged his Caribbean tour in 2016 to subsidize his trip to the US to see Meghan on taxpayer money.

Meghan didn't really go to Botswana with Harry and she just photoshopped herself into pictures with him.

Meghan dropped out of Northwestern University.

Secret Windsor meeting between Sussexes and Charles and The Queen in April 2022 was to renegotiate Megxit.

Secret Windsor meeting in April 2022 to initiate divorce proceedings.

Secret Windsor meeting in April 2022 to negotiate giving up their titles.

Secret Windsor meeting in April 2022 for Meghan to be interviewed for the bullying investigation.

Netflix Docuseries

Archie is actually the biological son of Meghan’s friend, doesn’t live with Meghan and Harry.

The “real” Lili is an Australian baby model.

Royal christening for Lili after Charles ascends, before coronation. (According to the Netflix series, Tyler Perry was asked to be Lili’s godfather; however, he accepted the honor only if they didn’t have the ceremony in London with the royals.) (Update, March 2023: While Sussex PR announced that Lili was christened, there has been no photographic proof or solid evidence otherwise to convince me that it actually happened. Meghan’s PR, especially in the 2016 - May 2018 years, often ran with “let’s not and say we did” stories about her relationships to/with members of the royal family. Until there are pictures that Lili was christened in March 2023, I am leaving this here.)

Sussexes wanted to significantly re-edit the Netflix series and delay it to 2023 to remove comments about Charles, Camilla, William, and Catherine following The Queen’s death.

The Netflix series will be called “Chapters.”

The series to be mainly archival footage from their time as royals with new commentary.

Netflix series to be re-edited after use of stock footage in the trailers was universally panned.

Netflix series delayed due to copyright issues over the use of uncredited or unpurchased stock footage.

Series to be re-edited after The Queen’s death because of insults to the BRF that, if left in, would ruin Meghan’s reputation.

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March 2023 Updates!

Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh

Charles won’t give Edward Duke of Edinburgh titles.

Edward to decline Duke of Edinburgh titles because his family can’t afford the dukedom/keeping up appearances for the dukedom.

King Charles to establish Duchess of Edinburgh as the new title for monarch’s daughters and retire Princess Royal with Princess Anne as her lasting legacy.

Charlotte to receive Duchess of Edinburgh at Charles’s coronation.

Edward to get Duke of Edinburgh titles as part of Charles’s coronation honors.

Charles to give Duke of Edinburgh title to Harry if/when he returns to London, has never wanted to give it to Edward.

Edward and Sophie to claim Duke of Edinburgh titles for themselves the same way Meghan “claimed” Prince/Princess titles on Archie and Lili’s behalf.

Miscellaneous, about the Prince and Princess of Wales

William and Kate to have pregnancy announcement in January/February 2023.

Pregnancy announcement ahead of the BAFTAs 2023.

Pregnancy announcement sometime the weekend of 3/10 - 3/12 ahead of the Commonwealth Service. Kate to debut baby bump at Commonwealth Service.

Miscellaneous, about Harry and Meghan

Sussex divorce announcement by January 23, 2023.

Meghan pregnant with third baby, will use the pregnancy to force titles on Archie and Lili since 1917 LP isn’t retroactive per 2022 BP, titles are only for new grandchildren born under the reign of the monarch. Sussexes will argue that it’s not fair for only their youngest child to be titled.

Meghan to relaunch The Tig on February 14, 2023.

Public development on Sussex divorce by February 19, 2023.

Sussexes to be on the cover of the Time 100 centenary.

Sussexes to be involved in the Time 100 centenary coverage.

Live to Lead nominated for an Academy Award in documentary categories.

Meghan and Harry attending Davos 2023.

Sussex divorce announcement between February 19 - March 21, 2023.

Sussexes attending Atlantis The Royal opening in Dubai.

Meghan to relaunch social media in February 2023.

Meghan to return to social media in the second half of February 2023 to take attention from Kate’s Early Years work.

Meghan to make a surprise appearance at Oscars 2023 or afterparties.

Meghan to relaunch The Tig during the week of March 13, 2023, with a focus on her children to take attention away from Commonwealth Day Service.

Miscellaneous, about others

Sarah Ferguson to present at Oscars 2023 for the Elvis movie.

Sarah Ferguson replaced Meghan as a presenter at Oscars 2023.

[sashabeauty87]

Also welcome to the Gemini Club, Lili!!!!