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songofassandfire · 3 years ago

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R there any other mccormick ships u rly like besides kevlly? I love hearing ppl gush about ships lol ^_^

ohhh anon I like this question 👀 damn this got pretty long tho

Well first and foremost that I have not made it a secret that I unironically enjoy Stuart and Carol's relationship. Now I understand why that would be a little uhhhh... controversial. They don't treat each other well most of the time they're on screen together, to put it lightly, and are usually fighting more often than not. But like... there's enough little bits of genuine affection here and there, even just in the background details, that I can't help but believe that there's a real loving relationship that's just bogged down by their own shitty personal decisions and generally bad lot in life.

I always felt like they were just a picture perfect couple when they were younger, and I think that sweet and loving side of them is still in there if they can just chip away at all the bullshit. I dunno how to really explain this ahjdcvhgdj I just feel like they both really do care about each other overall and the moments they are getting along are really sweet to me. They're also both hot.

(sidenote some ppl seem to get real technical about "it's not a 'ship' if it's canon/they're married" with canon couples. which is annoying to me bc a ship is still a ship even if it's canon isn't it?? like it's just shorthand for "relationship" right?? whatever blah)

I also really like Stuart and Gerald together a bit jskhdcvjhkvf more in a "best friends who almost were" kinda way. The kind where they're not technically exes, but it was so close they might as well be exes. if that makes any sense ajhcbjhkfvrj basically all I'm saying is they've explored each other's bodies.

Aside from Kevlly, I also like the idea of Kevin and Michael together, even more of a crack pairing than Kevlly but still good in my eyes sdvchjgsdh

idk the other two Mccormick kids seem to get along fairly well with the goth kids and I feel like Kevin would be no different in that regard. He's generally not loud or in-your-face about trends n shit, but he's got a rage inside him, and I think Michael would appreciate that tbh. Meanwhile, Kevin doesn't really understand all the darkness and pain and edgy stuff that Michael uses to express himself but he's surprisingly easy to talk to while also able to enjoy the comfortable silences.

I've had this headcanon for a while that Kevin and Michael bumped into each other behind the school while they were both skipping class at the same time, and they kinda just became casual smoking buddies. Of course in a shipping context one of them then develops a crush on the other (I usually pick Michael bc I think having a crush on Kevin's oblivious ass would actually piss him off and I think that's funny. Despite them seemingly dropping the goth Karen thing, if she were part of the clique I feel like she'd try so so hard to be a good wingman and fail at it even harder).

I am also briefly considering Kevin/Jenny Harrison, but I mostly have it in my head as a relatively short lived relationship that wasn't bad at all, but not built to last. Kevin encourages her to try new things, mostly things that definitely go against her religion. Just a little dose of rebellion, nothing too major. As for what breaks it off for good, one time Kevin almost actually gets her in trouble, and it scares her enough to snap right back into the rigid good girl thing even harder. Jenny, heartbroken as she was about it, decides it's for the best for them to not be together anymore.

I'm not as into Bunny as I used to be, but it's still a top tier Kenny ship imo. I know most of their one-on-one interactions are largely confined to one episode and that much of the fanon content surrounding them is ooc at best and unsettlingly fetishized at worst, but I can't help but be attached to the idea of them together.

I never consider it in a "one saves the other" or even a "both saving each other" context, I mostly see it was they just kinda give each other a breather from all the fucked up shit in their lives. Like everything sucks ass but at least they have each other. To me it's like, Butters is borderline bloodthirsty and also a huge pain in the ass sometimes but Kenny, as exasperated as he is, can't help but want to stick by him, if that makes sense jahbdvjhfsjhv

Now Kenny and Cartman isn't as popular as some of the other Kenny ships, but it really should be if I'm honest. Even though there's moments in the show that have Kenny just unequivocally hate Eric, I do fully believe that they really are best friends.

It's kinda hard for me to really explain why I like it so much (mostly bc liking kenman is a newer thing for me khajsfhjgr). I just think that despite all the ripping on Kenny for being poor n shit, Cartman just kinda gets him in a way that Stan and Kyle don't? Not to say they aren't close with Kenny or anything... god I really don't know how to explain this shdcvhjvfjhg all in all they good

Tfbw dlc also gave us some blessed interactions between Kenny and Henrietta tho. Like I definitely think at least Henrietta is interested in him, I'm pretty sure they were basically flirting the whole time. Plus her knowledge of Old Ones can give him some insight on his whole curse deal. Chill, laid back guy x monotone and serious goth is a top tier dynamic, personally. Just all her black clothes and goth makeup standing next to Kenny's orange ass. As much as I like kenrietta I don't really have much to say about it hgdhgdedgj it's just a really nice ship. Like, who deserves a goth gf more than Kenny?

There's a LOT of good Kenny ships out there but going through them all would take ages haha just know that stenny, K2, and tolkenny are also high on the list

Karen and Tricia I guess kinda depends on your interpretation of them as characters, since Karen has little canon character and Tricia has even less. Karen is obviously a timid and lonely kid, while I see Tricia as more of an assertive, confident, no nonsense, rude-because-I-can-be kinda girl. So, in my head, they balance each other out pretty well. Obviously they wouldn't actually get together until they're at least a little bit older, though.

Aaaaand that's about it, I guess haha. As u can see I think about the mccormicks an awful lot

#answers #kevin mccormick #kenny mccormick #karen mccormick #stuart mccormick #carol mccormick #i hope this isnt COMPLETELY utter nonsense its like almost 6 am #i shouldve stopped but i was on a roll

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subtlereferencetomyinterests · 4 years ago

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Thoughts on intruality?? Rant away :D

ok THANK U now i have an excuse to write the essay i've had in my head for the past month about these boys:

So for anyone who doesn't know (which should be no one at this point) remus and patton are my absolute favorite characters and i kin both of them to varying degree. And what do we do when we like two separate things? add 'em together and obsess over the sum, obviously!!! so that's essentially how i gave myself intruality brainrot. and here's why u should get it, too:

1. they r both impulsive and have Very Little Regard for health in the face of, like, having a good time. Granted, in Remus' case its more for bodily mutilation than just, eating poorly or w/e, but the vibes are similar nonetheless. i feel like remus could just properly bring out more of the Chaos that we all know Patton is capable of, and really, isn't that what they both deserve?

2. As much as remus would be a bad (fun) influence on patton, i dont doubt he'd have a good impact on him too!! remus is like anti-repression incarnate, and even if patton's made *some* progress since Moving On, he's still... rough. with the whole emotional vulnerability thing. He needs somebody to encourage him to hold Absolutely Nothing back, not even sadness!

3. i hate talking about religion but i just gotta mention. listen. there are unmistakable religious undertones to this relationship and i think thats very hot of them.

4. theyre both eldritch monsters. no im not joking. lilypadton and cephalopodic remus, match made in heaven.

5. ok look patton has this problem with being Too Much, or at least feeling that way- hence shutting down on his negative emotions and apologizing for being overeager and getting told off for being too enthusiastic- and remus would 100% be able to handle him and make him feel, you know, less shitty for being the way he is. Which he needs and deserves!!! and also he'd probably realize along the way that he can relate to remus more than previously assumed, like- the idea of being pushed down and reprimanded because of feelings and thoughts that you aren't in control over, they can both understand. its only that remus and patton had different responses to this treatment (and now this is a little bit of theory territory)- patton tries to comply and be what others want him to be, and bend over backwards for other ppl's comfort. remus, to put it nicely, Does Not Do That. he doubles down and actively *tries* to be upsetting for attention, in revolt of getting repressed over and over again. Both r really extreme reactions to unfair treatment, and this is one of the areas I think these two could balance each other out and maybe undo some of all that emotional damage.

6. i think it'd be funny if remus claimed Step-dad Authority over Virgil Logan & Roman and used it only for evil <3

7. Thematically, i feel like it makes sense for them at least to become friends, considering how patton was more-or-less the first to befriend both Virgil and now Janus. it is just in his nature to acquire more people to care for.

8. they both seem very tactile, so. cuddling <3

I could definitely come up with more reasons but yeah, in summary- intruality is based and everyone should ship it. Thanks for the ask!!!

(*Send me an ask with “Thoughts on ____?” and I’ll respond!!)

#intruality #sanders sides #ts #ask

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seoafin · 4 years ago

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tbh,, i havent read the raws of the interview yet, only the translated ver from fan-translator and b4 i start, i think that this will be just me talking in circle and in no particular order AND a real mess (my brain does weird things after exams) but uhh here we go

gojou collects talented people, and by doing so he finds the people he can most probably relate to, except that he can't, not really, because something in the universe shifted when he was born. and it makes me think of how he's always known it, that he is special, and he's proven it, time and time again— he wants to take in talented ppl and he does, but there rly isn't much he can do for them. for they are talented, more talented than the world can understand,,

but they aren't gojou satoru

gojou took in megumi, bc he knew megumi was strong, and would grow up to be someone even stronger, but gojou can't facilitate or encourage his growth, bc for all they're similar, they are so fundamentally different. ALSO,, while geto was in his life, gojou rly judged everything according to his understanding of geto’s moral compass. gojou wears a human suit and geto is how he learnt to wear it well 🏃

the dragonfly analogy regarding to geto’s response to gojo, who was shown wearing a dragonfly patterned yukata in HI arc,, i’m trying to not think abt the fact that dragonfly symbolized victory in jpn....pain. i quoted from a web here for more explanation : In Japan the dragonfly is known as the "victory insect", or kachimushi, because of its hunting prowess and also because it is known to never retreat. Dragonflies are agile and fast fliers and can even hover, but never fly backwards

and bringing this up again, matricide and patricide are 2 of the 5 worst act to commit in buddhism, and it was said that if u commit one of those act u’re going to spend a real long time in the deepest pit of hell before continuing the samsaric cycle (higher chances to be born as an animal after that probs)— this might be geto’s divine retribution. held no power over his own body and could be considered that he’s the same as those “monkeys” 💀

ALSO the fact that sukuna's interest is "eating" rly drives home his hedonistic philosophy of seeking pleasure for himself. and he’s a cannibal...makes me think if he’ll just chomp on ppl with the mouth on his stomach

randomly, to date i think he hasn't really called himself a human, shaman, or a curse, and has held himself apart from all 3, and we've also the intro of the cursed wombs so i wonder if he’s trying to become, or is, a different entity altogether

so onmyoji got mentioned in the interview and what they practice is called onmyodo and abe no seimei and kano no yasunori were the notable practitioners,, and the kamo in jjk is the same as irl who served the imperial court back then

maybe i was right when i said that the relation between the govt. and jujutsu elders are similar to how the shogunate and imperial court work (ie, the former holds the actual power) but... lets see later,,

and i cant believe that i actually nailed it on the analogy of jujutsu practices by religion,,, so mahayana buddhism, shintoism, and taoism is present in jjk along with their respective jujutsu practices...but between the 3, it shld (?) be taoism > shintoism > mahayana buddhism (which could took a path to pure land buddhism)

it’s weird that the number of curses are supposedly higher in jpn comparable to other countries when taoism was brought from china....tengen sus

so the zenin family tree is sth like :

brothers: [toji's dad] ; naobito ; ougi

so toji, naoya, and maki & mai are cousins of the same generation

[toji's dad] → jinichi (probs) ; toji → megumi

naobito → other brothers, naoya

ougi → maki, mai

but yea i’d call anyone who’s within/close or below my age range as cousins and others above 30 as uncles/ aunts LMFAO,, i dont rly memorize my own family tree 😭😭 especially since most call the other by honorifics instead of names : aunt, uncles etc or attaching said honorifics at the end of a name for an older sibling figure/ older cousins [but like ppl in my country also call the other who are older with sibling honorific even if we’re strangers,,, rly similar to korea’s hyung/oppa—eonnie(unnie)/noona but some uses more genderless honorific] (1)

tw // topic of incest, mentions of abuse

if anyone got the wrong idea when reading this : i am not glorifying/ romanticising incest(uous themes),, i’m looking at this with absolutely no lenses of bias even tho im rly against it

初恋 = literally : first love, or puppy love

恋 = romantic love/ deep longing

i literally don't know how else to put this...🧍and with language barrier...using a western interpretation of the eng word "love" to explain a jpnese term is not quite that simple, unfortunately

that thread omg,, i rly do understand how exactly someone could associated kindness with love bc of my upbringing, it was when i was slightly older that i was just...oh so its not like that orz,,, so the most plausible explanation would be that

but the problem is that,, akutami never specify when exactly she had a crush on them,, and when megumi answered todo’s question she had a “♡” reaction 😶,, uhmmm there’s rly no way to look past this if its this way or be in denial

i’ve seen some of "why wouldn't mai react that way after hearing megumi say he'd like someone who's compassionate when she's surrounded by men like naoya",, well I MEAN,,, that, but also mai probs admires that megumi grew up so well out of the clan, regardless of the fact that he had the foundation (10 shadows) to do so. imo she seems happy for him the way she can't be for maki, bc maki ultimately had to leave her behind

hate to say it but yea,, the 3 clans most likely still practice inbreeding in order to preserve their power and presumably their wealth too 😀

i had an idle thought abt it at first but i filed it deep in the back of my mind asap,, bc i ont wanna jump to conclusion abt this out of all things too early. it’s probably not even in jjk, but all those elite clans in other ani/mangas that produce powerful heirs and whatnot also do the same,,, but this way of (my personal) thinking was influenced when i first got into tsukihime (type-moon),,, i read abt the nanaya family background and found out that they practice that in order to keep their bloodline “pure” (to keep it short : they have an optical power),, and i had this kind of assumption ever since so there’s that

i’m,, convinced the zenins' inbreeding made it more difficult for them to get powerful shamans bc they got 2 jujutsu technique-less children with heavenly restrictions in the same generation: toji & maki

even more convinced that maki might be a bit stronger than toji bc toji could see curses without aid while maki can't so the pay-off must be higher,,, SJJASN IDK ,,, plus naoya sort of implies his older brothers are nothing compared to him, and idk if we should take that as his arrogance or that his older brothers rly are weak/powerless. it would make sense as to why naobito had a lot of sons, ig, as head of clan

i feel so bad that if one of the factors that can caused heavenly restriction is inbreeding,, toji and maki and mai had no say in how they wanted to be born but are scorned for it,, typical asian families projecting their traumas and ideals onto their kids but get mad when they realize that those ideals are ugly...😁😁😁

since the zenin are conservative,, i wonder if they still hold onto old jpnese dining traditions. where in ancient jpn, hierarchical relationships were made readily apparent even within families. a dining table where everybody sat down and ate as equals would be unheard of. rather, each individual is given their own table that indicates their status,,, someone who is not considered “strong” according to the zenin’s views most likely have no place at the table, and probs eat when those who are “strong” finished/ serve them when they are eating

if toji was tossed into a swarm of curses,, i dont think abuse during said time is below them,,,

the zenin clan was already great, but they further amassed power and strength by, what i assume to be, marrying and adopting powerful individuals into the clan 🤔 ,,, i imagine they're like the hiiragi but without doing what they did to shinya (ons reference)

BUT after all that, i like to think that since akutami’s a big horror fan, jjk might be an outlet to explore said topics or even darker ones, so i wouldnt be that surpised abt it. given that there’s more than enough “red flags” before this was dropped : a reference to “tale of hikaru genji” when a grown woman asked for gojou’s number in HI arc (out of all things); granny who transformed into the man’s daughter, sat on his lap and man just touched her waist; mei mei and ui ui ; and...this (incestous theme is in the novel btw)

lets not start with whatever the fuck in kubo’s head in the interview otherwise i’m writing paragraphs with every curse words possible,, those big 3 mangakas are so— UGH,, a planet w out (cis) men like him sounds real good rn 😌 if one of yall out there decide to do it,, pls hmu rly cant do this shit anymore

akutami said i like my men pretty and i like women who will step on my neck and spit in my face (I REMEMBERED TATSUKI FUJIMOTO’S INTERVIEW WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABT MAKIMA AND IT WAS SO 😭😭😭😭) but ykw,, love that for both of them <3

when i said 3 : one piece, bleach, naruto. aside from the blatant depiction/ characterize of women in those 3,, idk if some ppl arent aware yet but oda is friends with two (2) convicted pedos,, man...the major disappointment and disgust when i first find out abt it

anyways this is just my 2 cents (which i think rightfully belong to the trash can) so pls just take this w a lil to no grain of salt - 🐱

YEAH THE ♡ LMFAO I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A “good answer ♡“ heart BUT NOW IM RE-EXAMINING?????

honestly i wouldn’t be surprised if the three clans practiced inbreeding. but ik people are going to be 😡😡😡😡😡 about it when the queen of fucking england is literally married to her (something) cousin. i’m not justifying it but like....love the double standards, just as always with the west 😍

DON’T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THAT FUCKING PED* LIST THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL. JAILLLLL. it’s all so gross. that’s why i fucking hate when people look towards manga for positive representation because the chances of that are super slim to zero, especially since the industry is saturated with misogyny and ped******* and a lot of other gross stuff.

i think ppl forget jjk is a horror manga LOL so obviously it’s going to confront darker themes. the question is whether it’s going to be done tastefully or not......

#honestly I don't have high hopes unfortunately 😭#but who knows I might be...pleasantly surprised #idk I don't have high hopes in manga nowadays so hmmm #anyway as always I enjoy ur thoughts <3 ❤️❤️#hope ur doing well!!!#and getting all those genshin impact goodies #🐱 anon #long post

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lapis-yam · 3 years ago

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With that established, let's move on to the most open-ended question: why? Don't feel like you have to be concise or anything-the longer the better.

I'm certainly anything but concise.

I can't remember the exact moment I became interested in Judaism. It was more of a gradual buildup until I genuinely felt like I could not continue pursuing any of my other goals in life until I contacted a rabbi.

I believe I first became acutely interested in Judaism because I had been making an effort to be a better advocate for Jews. I was very active and vocal in my support of Jews and my contempt for antisemitism and vowing to fight it to the best of my ability and by any means necessary. My interest in being a better ally to Jewish people led me to learning more about Judaism as a culture and as a religion. I started studying Jewish beliefs, analysis of important Jewish texts (Torah, Talmud, etc.). The first value I found that I deeply resonated with was the importance of questioning. Questioning what your told, and even crazier, questioning G-d, was something I didn't think any religion allowed, let alone encouraged. But Judaism was different in that respect, and I deeply admired that. I thought that all/most religions (especially Abrahamic religions) were very rigid and encouraging of blind faith, something I've never been good at.

Then there was the emphasis Judaism/Jewish culture puts on learning. The idea that there's always something new to learn and your education is never truly finished was deeply appealing to me. I love learning, reading, analyzing, studying, annotating. I love it all, and knowing that no matter how much a learn, there's always a deeper understanding you can gain of the Torah, there's always an infamous rabbi you've never heard of before that you should learn about, there's so many holidays with their own traditions and stories and rituals, theres mountains and mountains and mountains of books to read to give you a deeper understanding of any topic you could think of. Every question I had, I was encouraged to seek out the answer on my own, no matter how small. Why do Jews sway back and forth while praying, why can't you turn lights on and off on Shabbat, why is Israel so important to Jews, what's [insert holiday] about, why is circumcision required for Jewish boys, why can't Jews eat pork, why was the Talmud written, when will Mashiach arrive, why, why, why, why? There was always a new question to be asked, something I didn't know the answer to, something I had never thought to ask had I not been encouraged to do so. I have never run out of questions, and I doubt I ever will.

Then there's the encouragement of disagreement. How common it is for Jews to argue honestly caught me off guard in the very beginning. But it soon became one of my favorite things about Judaism. There's always an argument going on. This ties back to the first two. Whenever I would ask a question, I would either be told to search for the answer on my own, or my rabbi would give me his answer. I learned very quickly that I was expected to disagree with him, to argue with him. Otherwise, had I truly understood his answer? This became apparent during Torah study as well. The first Torah study class I went to, the entire class we spent more arguing than actually reading Torah. I was very nervous to participate, bc at the time I could barely follow along, but being encouraged to ask questions, and then have to defend whatever my interpretation of the verse we were reading was, definitely strengthened by ability to comprehend Jewish texts, as well as strengthen my bonds with other Jews. Nothing was passive. I have to be active constantly. I have to argue, celebrate, learn to cook Jewish recipes, learn Hebrew, write, study, etc.

Judaism turned everything I knew about religion on its head. Everything I loved about religion, Judaism had. A monotheistic belief in one creator, a large well of material to learn from, a sense of community, thousands of years of tradition, a beautiful culture, a welcoming and nurturing environment. It was everything my "ideal religion" would have.

As my interest grew, I could not stop researching Jewish holidays, traditions, food, beliefs, ethics, etc. I literally could not stop thinking about my now burning desire to join this "peoplehood", for lack of a better word.

My reasons for wanting to convert were clear to me now. I felt a deep connection to the Jewish people, to Hashem, and to the teachings of the Torah. I wanted to do anything I could to be 100% part of this community.

When I started converting, I reached out to a Reform Temple. The reform movement is seen to be the most "progressive" Jewish movement, and also has a reputation for being the least strict and most "assimilated". I chose to start my conversion with the reform movement because I thought it was my only option. I'm a trans man and I genuinely didn't think I could find an Orthodox community that would be accepting of that fact. I found very quickly that the reform movement was not for me. I personally didn't feel it was as true to the Torah as I wanted. I wanted a community that accepted the word of the Torah and sought to follow it as much as possibly in the 21st century. I didn't feel that the reform movement did that. It seemed like they wanted to "modernize" Judaism, which I didn't like. Judaism is ancient and I wanted to be part of a movement that treated it as such, that respected its roots and tried to follow as closely as possible to the origins. Eventually, I found an organization that helped LGBT Jews and LGBT ppl looking to convert Orthodox find orthodox communities.

I find my views align far more with Orthodoxy and I feel much more "at home" in this movement than I did in reform.

That's pretty much it I think :) Obviously, feel free to ask any other questions you have. I didn't proofread this, so I might be a little unclear.

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hotchley · 4 years ago

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🦄 i know there are fics with hotch and food and how he eats bland food but also the guy puts jalapeños in his omelettes. do u think likes flavorful cuisines? he also does seem to only make bland foods for jack (mac n cheese, pancakes). which could be a kid's thing but could be a white thing like i wouldn't know lmaoo (come on, asian to asian, tell me to my face you weren't eating flavorful foods at a young age). like i dunno, hotch is such an inconsistent character. at one point im p sure he stopped eating bc he literally looked so gaunt on screen. but in the same ep he shows that he knows how to cook (or at least sautee onions lmaoo) AND organized a team cooking lesson. or maybe this is just me obsessing over all the hotch/garcia scenes bc they're one of my fave pairs and she always brings out the colorful sides of him.

this is also just me being annoyed at reid's character bc one of the trope i hate most is white guy knows more about minority things than the actual minorites. like somehow the guy knows korean but can't use chopsticks? also his pronunciation of korean phrases is horrid and i just hate the trope so much bc white ppl always butcher asian things and they always use asian cultures/aesthetics as props. like haha look at how smart i am, i can translate this korean movie for u in realtime. and him speaking over the kid at the reservation rubbed me in the wrong way like stay in your fucken lane, whiteboy. just bc u read books doesn't mean you understand anything at all and im really glad hotch called him out on that. i mean the same thing happened with the ep on african religions (which was not sensitively done might i just say). like i get he's a genius and he likes to read but what good is that booksmart if he just ends up being an asshole irl. so many of his "look im a genius and im cultured" end up being throw away lines and this show is already super white which makes the treatment of those lines seem even more insensitive. like does he know most of his genius comes a lot from his privilege of being a white male. i dunno, his character is just so annoying to me and ive said it before: garcia does the whole genius thing better and she isn't even half as annoying about it (even if she's white lmaoo).

Okay, so Hotch probably does enjoy trying new foods and different things but he’ll just give Jack bland things because he’s white and doesn’t want to destroy Jack’s taste buds, even though he would be fine. (Yep, I was definitely eating things I probably wasn’t old enough too as a younger child)

I reckon after Foyet there was only so much he could stomach which is why his choices went bland and after Pakistan he was probably so anxious, stressed and sad that he just couldn’t stomach anything without feeling nauesous.

I LOVE HOTCH AND GARCIA SO MUCH!!!! “Don’t call me honey.” is one of my favourite scenes with the two of them.

OH I KNOW! I get that the show came out in the early 2000s and all that, but if they really cared, they could have had an Asian character. Okay he can’t use chopsticks, but they should have just either a) left other peoples cultures alone or b) done it properly by actually doing research and having the team be like: Oh so I learnt this but obviously, I am white.

I’m gonna be honest, I do not remember the episode with African religions and I’m not sure I want to remember. I just feel like the writers should have made it that Reid has knowledge on other cultures but lets the people who are actually part of them speak and listens instead of having him every two minutes flaunt the fact that he’s a genius.

Because what I want to know is, if Reid had been an ethnic man, a white woman, or an ethnic woman, would the intelligence have been praised the way it was or would it have just been an expectation?

I’m fairly neutral towards canon-Reid I’m like: Yeah okay, cool. There’s a particular subsection of the fandom where I’m like: GUYS! REID IS A GROWN ASS MAN YOU CAN’T BLAME EVERYTHING ON OTHER PEOPLE!! And I also think basing your like of a character off what they say to Reid is kinda unfair because I will put my hands up and say I probably would ask how he happens to know stuff and not always be able to keep up with what he’s saying because I just couldn’t.

Garcia is the best. Absolutely love her!

#🦄anon

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fruiitycas · 4 years ago

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Hello, I would love to know about the dtscu; can you please enlighten me? ❤️️

oh of course i love spreading the good word of our lord taylor swift. the dtscu refers to the “destiel taylor swift cinematic universe” and is a collection of songs that ms swift has written that I think directly apply to destiel (its okay ms swift i saw your lyrics you can come out as a destiel shipper). i also tag destiel edits that use taylor swift songs/lyrics to make a whole collection of works that ppl have made that combine t swift w destiel.

this is the link to the playlist with all the destiel songs in my dtscu. (more details under the cut)

some notable additions to the playlist:

dont blame me (Echoes, love your name inside my mind / Halo, hiding my obsession // baby, for you, I would fall from grace / Just to touch your face // Don't blame me, love made me crazy / If it doesn't, you ain't doin' it right / Lord, save me, my drug is my baby / I’d be usin' for the rest of my life)

peace (And you know that I'd swing with you for the fences / Sit with you in the trenches / Give you my wild, give you a child / Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other / Family that I chose now that I see your brother as my brother / Is it enough? / ‘Cause there's robbers to the east, clowns to the west / I’d give you my sunshine, give you my best / But the rain is always gonna come if you're standing with me / But I'm a fire and I'll keep your brittle heart warm / If your cascade ocean wave blues come / All these people think love's for show / But I would die for you in secret / The devil's in the details, but you got a friend in me / Would it be enough if I could never give you peace?)

false god (Remember how I said I'd die for you? // They say the road gets hard and you get lost when you're led by blind faith // But we might just get away with it / Religion's in your lips / Even if it's a false god / We'd still worship / We might just get away with it / The altar is my hips / Even if it's a false god / We'd still worship this love)

sparks fly

safe and sound

ivy (How's one to know? / I’d meet you where the spirit meets the bones In a faith forgotten land / In from the snow / Your touch brought forth an incandescent glow Tarnished but so grand // Oh, goddamn / My pain fits in the palm of your freezing hand / Taking mine, but it's been promised to another / Oh, I can't / Stop you putting roots in my dreamland / My house of stone, your ivy grows / And now I'm covered in you // How's one to know? / I’d live and die for moments that we stole / On begged and borrowed time // it's a war / It's the goddamn fight of my life / And you started it / You started it)

this love (In silent screams / In wildest dreams / I never dreamed of this // This love is good / This love is bad / This love is alive back from the dead / These hands had to let it go free, and This love came back to me / This love left a permanent mark / This love is glowing in the dark / These hands had to let it go free, and This love came back to me)

cowboy like me (You're a bandit like me / Eyes full of stars / Hustling for the good life / Never thought I'd meet you here / It could be love / We could be the way forward / And I know I'll pay for it / And the skeletons in both our closets / Plotted hard to mess this up // Now you hang from my lips Like the Gardens of Babylon / With your boots beneath my bed / Forever is the sweetest con / I’ve had some tricks up my sleeve / Takes one to know one / You're a cowboy like me / And I'm never gonna love again / I’m never gonna love again)

there are also notable subsections:

The Divorce Arc:

i wish you would (I wish you would come back / Wish I'd never hung up the phone like I did / I wish you knew that / I’d never forget you as long as I'd live / And I wish you were right here, right now It's all good / I wish you would / I wish we could go back / And remember what we were fighting for / Wish you knew that / I miss you too much to be mad anymore)

my tears ricochet (I didn't have it in myself to go with grace / ‘Cause when I'd fight, you used to tell me I was brave / And if I'm dead to you, why are you at the wake? / Cursing my name, wishing I stayed / Look at how my tears ricochet / And I can go anywhere I want / Anywhere I want, just not home / And you can aim for my heart, go for blood / But you would still miss me in your bones / And I still talk to you when I'm screaming at the sky)

i almost do (And I just wanna tell you / It takes everything in me, not to call you / And I wish I could run to you / And I hope / you know that every time I don't / I almost do)

all you had to do was stay

death by a thousand cuts

story of us (This is looking like a contest / Of who can act like they care less / But I liked it better when you were on my side // Now I'm standing alone in a crowded room / And we're not speaking / And I'm dying to know / Is it killing you like it's killing me? // And the story of us looks a lot like a tragedy now)

the other side of the door (tell me why you couldn't see That when I left I wanted you to chase after me? / I said leave but all I really want is you / To stand outside my window, throwing pebbles, screaming I'm in love with you / Wait there in the pourin' rain, come back for more / And don't you leave 'cause I know all I need is on The other side of the door)

come back…be here (this is when the feeling sinks in, I dont wanna miss you like this / Come back… be here)

The Widower arc/ Post 15x18:

haunted ( I know, I just know You're not gone, you can't be gone, no // Come on, come on, don't leave me like this / I thought I had you figured out / Can't breathe whenever you're gone / Can't go back, I'm haunted / You and I walk a fragile line / I have known it all this time)

marjorie (What died didn't stay dead / You're alive, you're alive in my head / What died didn't stay dead // You're alive, so alive // If I didn't know better / I’d think you were still around / I know better / But I still feel you all around / I know better / But you're still around)

Cas to Dean:

tied together with a smile (no one knows / That you cry; but you don't tell anyone / That you might not be the golden one / And you're tied together with a smile / But you're coming undone // I guess it's true that love was all you wanted / ‘Cause you're givin' it away like it's extra change / Hoping it will end up in his pocket)

innocent (Wasn't it beautiful when you believed in everything / And everybody believed in you? / It's alright, just wait and see / Your string of lights is still bright to me / Oh, who you are is not where you've been / You're still an innocent // Did some things you can't speak of / But at night you live it all again)

enchanted (This is me praying that this was the very first page / Not where the story line ends / My thoughts will echo your name, until I see you again / These are the words I held back, as I was leaving too soon/ I was enchanted to meet you)

everything has changed (all ive seen since 18 hrs ago is green eyes and freckles and your smile in the back of my mind making me feel like i just wanna know you better now)

mirrorball(Hush / I know they said the end is near / But I'm still on my tallest tiptoes / Spinning in my highest heels, love / Shining just for you // I'm still a believer but I don't know why / I've never been a natural / All I do is try, try, try / I’m still on that trapeze / I’m still trying everything / To keep you looking at me )

Dean to Cas:

untouchable (I know you're saying / That you'd be here / But you're Untouchable / burning Brighter than the sun / Now that you're close / I feel like coming undone)

mine (You learn my secrets and you figure out why I'm guarded / You say we'll never make my parents' mistakes // Do you remember, we were sittin' there, by the water? / You put your arm around me, for the first time / You made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter / You are the best thing, that's ever been mine )

state of grace (So you were never a saint / And I've loved in shades of wrong / We learn to live with the pain / Mosaic broken hearts / But this love is brave and wild / And I never saw you coming / And I'll never be the same)

this is me trying (This is very specifically The Trap!Dean) (Pulled the car off the road to the lookout / Could've followed my fears all the way down / And maybe I don't quite know what to say / But I'm here in your doorway / I just wanted you to know / That this is me trying / I just wanted you to know / That this is me trying / They told me all of my cages were mental / So I got wasted like all my potential / And my words shoot to kill when I'm mad / I have a lot of regrets about that)

the archer (Combat, I'm ready for combat / I say I don't want that, but what if I do? / ‘Cause cruelty wins in the movies / I’ve got a hundred thrown-out speeches I almost said to you // And all of my heroes die all alone / Help me hold onto you / I've been the archer / I’ve been the prey / Screaming, who could ever leave me, darling? / But who could stay? // Who could stay? / You could stay)

#ask #theirprofoundbond #dtscu #destiel

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antiyourwokehomophobia2 · 4 years ago

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You said we can ask you questions so here goes( hope they arent invasive)

-at what age did u realise u were lesbian?was it easy/hard to accept?

-how was your coming out like? How did your family and friends react?

-were you ever/are you religious?do u believe one can balance between being homosexual and religious?

- were you always masc or is it something that came with accepting your sexuality?

-do you call yourself a stud?

- how hard/easy has it been being an out and proud black lesbian?

- thoughts on the stigma against stud4stud/butch4butch lesbians

-were you ever a TRA/libfem? If yes, what made you peak?

-ive had ppl talk about how masc lesbians being touch-me-nots is problematic/toxic and how its more about upholding a "status" than it is about preference. What do you make of that?

Not invasive at all! I'm happy to answer and thank you for asking :).

- I realized I was a lesbian at age 12 when I developed a HUGE crush on my gorgeous English teacher. I also got a small crush on a girl in one of my classes. I didn't grow up around much homophobia so it wasn't hard for me to accept that I was gay but what was hard was the absolute intensity of my feelings towards my teacher. I used to pray to god to have my feelings for her taken away because they were just so intense and I didn't know how to handle them (she was my teacher so I clearly wasn't going to ask her out. There was literally no outlet for what I was feeling so I kept it bottled.). My parents never brought up gay people in any positive or negative way and the kids I grew up around didn't really either. So me being gay wasn't something I beat myself up over. Once I accepted that I wasn't an overly invested straight ally, the road to acceptance was a peace of cake tbh.

-My coming out was... Well. I first started coming out to my friends when I was 13 and they were accepting of it. It honestly wasn't that interesting to tell you the truth 😅. All the peers that I gave a shit about never gave me shit for being gay. I never lost a friend for being gay. Coming out to my parents took me until I was 16 and the reason for that is because I genuinely didn't know how they'd react. Like I said, they never said anything about gay people point blank period. However, I was kind of forced to come out one particular night because my heart had been fucking shattered by a girl I was strongly crushing on at the time. I was pacing up and down my house, my best friend wasn't answering me, I could hear my dad's TV playing, it was late, I was tired, I couldn't sleep, I had school tomorrow, I was freaking out, I was devastated... I wanted to be comforted so I went to my father, threw my head into his arm and started telling him how my heart felt broken. He asked me if I had a boyfriend and when I said "nope" there was some silence and he was like "it's okay, I've known for a long time". I never actually said the words "gay" or "lesbian" during my coming out but I guess I didn't need to. The next morning, my father asked if it was okay if he could go tell my mom and I said yes. Long story short, my mom was even less surprised than my dad and she's the more progressive of the two so it wasn't really an issue (though she did tell me to keep an open mind in terms of liking men 😅 she seems to think I'm bisexual which is whatever because she never bothers me about it).

-Hmm. I don't like to completely cut out religion from my life. My father was extremely religious and now that he's gone, I feel it's disrespectful for me to say God doesn't exist. Like, "dad, you spent practically your whole life believing wholeheartedly in God but guess what! It was a waste and the thing you dedicated your life is something I think is a fairytale!" that doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been baptized and I used to go to church when I was younger. I think that there's no reason to shake my head at the possibility of a God. In terms of being gay and believing in God, I once watched a video by a devout Christian gay man who went through all the homophobic stuff Christians love to quote from the bible and gave the actual meaning behind them. I, personally, do not think that God is homophobic. I think that God's love is not something we have the capacity to understand. So, I, personally, think Christian gay people are perfectly fine and are already balanced. Here's to hoping that they stay away from homophobic churches!

-No, I wasn't always masc. As a child I was a huge girly girl. Like, legit, I wasn't a tomboy in the slightest lmao. I'm not sure when I started being masc. But what I do know is that I've grown far more masc over the years. I used to not want to dress too manly (no tuxedo's and no clothes from the men's section and no boxers) but nowadays I love all of those things and that's genuinely what I want in my wardrobe so I have no problem going into the men's section for my clothes.

-No, I don't call myself a stud. Love those guys though. The label I feel that's most accurate for me is masc.

-Um, I'm not sure how to answer this since I don't have experience being any other kind of lesbian. I guess it's just kind of tiring. I'm black, female, and homosexual. That's a LOT of different topics to give my attention to. The hardest part of being a black lesbian is knowing who to give my camaraderie to. Do I give it to black women? Black women AND black men? Lesbians? Only black lesbians? The lgb community as a whole? It's just a lot to think about. I will say, though, I think that it's a lot harder to be a masc black lesbian than a white one. Black women are already perceived as manly just based off of our skin color. So for me to willingly present masc can often be... A non-pretty picture in the eyes of society and I'm hyper-aware of that which is why I often have trouble going all out with the wardrobe I truly desire. That's my biggest challenge navigating the world as the black lesbian that I am. On a more positive note though, it's great being a black lesbian because I can have an opinion on everything and nobody can tell me I'm being racist/homophobic/sexist or stepping outside of my lane 😂. I'm on a three-lane road motherfucker and I'm not afraid to use all of them.

-my thoughts are that you should leave people alone. I will say though, I once read something that was like "if you call yourself a femme but the idea of being with a butch disgusts you, you're not a femme, you're just a feminine lesbian" and that rang true to me so it feels hypothetical (and nonsensical) if the reverse wasn't true as well. If a butch/stud shits on femmes and assumes they can't be as feminine as they are and ACTUALLY gay then I do have a problem. Butches and femmes have a history that's damn near inseparable from each other so for a butch to shit on femmes... I'd argue that they're probably not butch but instead just masculine lesbians. However, I don't care if two butches or studs want to date lmao. All the power to them, I hope they're happy.

-I definitely used to support trans rights more than I do now. I would correct people who misgendered others. I thought trans women were women. I was in support of bathroom laws. I never made posts about it, but I very much did believe it. Magdalen berns made me peak. I started realizing that gender makes no sense. I did some research and came to the conclusions I hold today. Even when I want to go back to my ignorance, I can't because I've seen too much by now.

-I honestly don't know. I think that some masc lesbians don't want to be put in that "feminine" position of being touched by their partner. It could stem from upholding a status but at the end of the day, sexual boundaries are sexual boundaries. What are you gonna do? Force your touch on to them? Yikes. Leave them be. If you're upset about your partner not wanting to be touched by you then get a new one. Clearly you're not sexually happy so leave. I don't think it's necessarily toxic unless they think there's something inherently demeaning in being touched by their partner or they do want to be touched but won't allow themselves due to trauma or feeling like there's a certain persona they must uplift. Other than that though, I don't see the issue.

Thanks for the questions, buddy ❤️

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tenbees · 5 years ago

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1. there's something i'm kinda confused abt re: non-gs who grew up religious. often they say that their families were rly religious so that's why they "had" to fuck guys...but that doesn't make much sense to me? i grew up in a family that was only casually religious, so maybe i just don't get it, but most super religious ppl seem like they discourage dating for their kids until a certain age & obv they tend to be very against pre-marital sex, so why exactly do these non-gs think that's a

2. justification? sure i understand having some chaste fake high school bf, some guy you go to prom w, some guy you feign an innocent crush on at church, etc. to get ppl off your back or w.e, but all of this "my family was rly religious, therefore i just HAD to date & have sex w multiple guys as a teen/young adult" makes no sense to me... i understand being afraid/confused & wanting to appear straight, but i guess i don't get the leap from that to fucking multiple men. i know lots of straight

3. women who grew up very religious & didn't date at all in high school bc it wasn't allowed. in general i guess i also can't wrap my mind around all these non-gs, religious or not, who fucked more men than my normie non-religious straight female friends ever have lol

💀 i grew up in a very religious environment and it makes no sense to me... like homeschooling, taught creationism and given evidence that evolution is a lie, taught that homosexuality is a sin, etc, and pre-marital sex being wrong was drilled into our heads all the fucking time. i was 👌 close to being in some purity ring ceremony, people encouraged courting instead of dating (where the boy asks the girl’s family for permission to ask her out, they can only do chaste hugs, and have marriage as an immediate short-term goal), i remember watching drivers ed-style videos where people gave testimonies about how pre-marital sex ruined their lives/capacity for intimacy, and my little brother would always have to sit in the same room as my other brother and his girlfriend for hours every time she visited just to make sure they didn’t touch--just to name A Few examples. to say that that environment made you feel like you had to be straight? sure. but to say that it made you go out and have casual sex with a man, maybe even multiple times? Lmfao. and it isn’t a generalization really, because pre-marital sex being a sin is pretty emphasized and only gets more emphasized the further down the rabbit hole you go. there are some more liberal churches that don’t emphasize it as much, but they tend to either be accepting of homosexuality Or they just put more energy into encouraging godly dating in other forms and assume no pre-marital sex is a given. and even in the churches i’ve been to where dating is fine, a lot of teenagers don’t date and you’re actually put under more scrutiny for being in a relationship than being single.

the way that i’ve seen them describe it is so weird to me too. they talk about having religious families, the pressure to be straight, not knowing women are an option, etc, all things that i relate to, and then jump to ‘so i got a boyfriend and had sex with him for the length of our two year relationship’ with no explanation and as if that leap is a given, which just makes no sense to me. you spent two years sneaking away from your chastity belt wielding little brother to have sex you didn’t want and that everyone was telling you not to have? seems like a lot of them are not only trying to explain away bisexuality by grasping at straws and saying religion somehow compelled them do it, but also that a lot of them are exaggerating how religious their background is because they’ve seen it work as an explanation for other people.

#lol fucking more men than normie straight friends #if you've been in multiple straight relationships how can you expect to be taken seriously when you go o actually im a lesbian :)#Anonymous

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jedi-order-apologist · 5 years ago

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yooooo just wanna say im legit SO glad i found ur blog. ur fantastic at putting words together to form solid debate w/o making it feel like unwarranted aggression. u would make a fantastic jedi. i totally get why more people dont bring up the issue considering how ppl get online, but its so great to just read good jedi meta! i also think its fascinating (in like. a horrifying way) how the jedi hate in the fandom came to be, and your explanation feels like it hit the nail in the head. (1/?)

Fundamental misunderstandings about Asian philosophies, false equivocacy with the Christian religion, intolerance toward aro/aspec folk, being just flat out unable to relate to or sympathize with characters that dont act or process in certain ways, these are all things i def noticed but never had the words to put into! Ive seen the term "marital bliss" used maybe 4 times in fandom unironically, (2/?)

ALL in star wars. someone once compared the no attatchments rule to "pray the gay away" (yes about anidala, a very much het couple) The way they cry "child thief cultists!" one minute then joke over soldiers in the aftermath of a battle (that they fought in and walked away from) finding a small child in the wreckage (of what was likely their home, meaning said soldier was likely responsible for attacking and destroying and uh. orphaning them) and then taking them from the planet without (3/?)

, i dunno? checking for extended family? And i LOVE true mando culture (i am sabine wren's bitch forever and always, and each and every one of the clones are a babe) but somehow other sw culture tags, (mando and tatooine basically) are just hella anti-jedi??? and this really unfounded idea that no one in the order liked anakin, and that they didnt have a fufilling sustainable way of life after a millenia of existing, and the inexplicable but we all know why dislike for windu especially?? (4/?)

youve managed to answer so many questions while also giving and linking genuine, informative, interesting meta for anyone interested in listening and im super grateful for it! (sorry for the monster of an ask lol. also just realized i ended up talking more about negativity than anything else of the MANY things i wanted to compliment u on T^T) (5 or 6 idk anymore/?)

Thank you so much! I’m really glad that my blog and meta has been able to resonate with you and so many other people :) And I’m glad that it doesn’t come off as aggressive, because I do worry about that sometimes when I’m trying to think of the best way to word things.

It really is so unfortunate how much more criticism the Jedi get in all aspects than any other culture in Star Wars, and how often appreciation for those other cultures spends an inordinate amount of time taking potshots at the Jedi as if to bolster their favored group by comparison. Sure, in-universe, it makes complete sense for many Mandalorians to be anti-Jedi, but the fandom doesn’t need to be.

People really don’t understand the “no attachments” thing - a lot of the expanded material didn’t help with that because they too often conflated attachment with love, and people projected that onto the films. (I also think the AOTC marketing is to blame a bit too - I was only 6 at the time the film came out so I don’t really remember but a lot of the marketing stuff seems to have gone really hard on the “forbidden love” aspect. A lot of the trailers, for example, have the line where Padmé says she thought love was forbidden for a Jedi, but don’t include Anakin’s response to that explaining the difference, so of course the former part sticks out in people’s minds through repetition).

And yeah, the Order was, as far as we’re shown in the films/TCW, generally reasonable towards Anakin and did their best to support and guide him - it’s just, well, evidently guidance is criticism in the fandom’s eyes. That, and a not-insignificant part of fandom likes to woobify him, and twisting the situation into a “everybody was so mean and unfair to him” thing is a pretty standard woobification tactic.

Fanon interpretations of the Jedi are just...really annoying, in general, and if I can at least get people to consider a more charitable view, then I’ll be much happier. If not, well, at least I can commiserate about it all with other Jedi fans like you!

#sorry for taking awhile to respond to this #i hope all of your asks came through because this is all I got #anyway #thanks #discussion #on fandom attitudes #Anonymous

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MY people perish for lack of knowledge [Hosea 4:6]

Jonah 1:12 | “Pick me up,” he answered, “& cast me into the sea, so it may quiet down for you. For I know that I am to #blame for this 𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐥𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐦 that has come upon you”

Why? Knowingly in rebellion to GOD's call MY ppl perish for 𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤 of knowledge [Hosea 4:6]

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Ensure there's no one among you today, whose heart turns away from the LORD our GOD to worship gods of those nations.

Ensure there's no root among you that bears such poisonous & bitter fruit [Deut 29:17-18]

Quote Tweet 𝕁𝕠𝕖 𝔽𝕚𝕟𝕕𝕤 @EntiretyinYHWH · 8h

because when such a person hears the words of this oath, he invokes a blessing on himself saying: I will have peace, even though I walk in the stubbornness of my own heart.

𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐚𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫 on the watered land as well as the dry. [Deuteronomy 29:19]

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Mt 7:22-23 | #Many will say to ME on that day, ‘LORD, LORD, did we not prophesy in YOUR name, & in YOUR name drive out demons & perform many miracles?’ ²³ Then I will tell them plainly,

I never knew you; 𝐝𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐌𝐄, you workers of lawlessness!’

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Jonah 1:12

Seek the LORD while HE may be found call on HIM while HE is near ⁷Let the wicked forsake his way ..let him return to the LORD, that HE may have compassion & to our GOD for HE will freely pardon

⁸“For MY thoughts are not your thoughts neither are your ways MY ways” [Isaiah 55:6-8]

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There Are No Atheists in Foxholes Statement

"There are no atheists in foxholes" is an aphorism used to argue that in times of extreme stress/fear, such as during war ("in foxholes"), all people will believe in, or hope for, a higher power.

Thus there are therefore no #atheists.

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God Fodder @PeteAlonSoCrazy · 1h

And that is 100% false.

Only the weak minded believe in god out of fear.

In REALITY, there are no theists in foxholes.

If you are under attack or in imminent danger, theists immediately abandon any notion of faith, and stick to reality and logic for survival, just like atheists.

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God Fodder @PeteAlonSoCrazy · 1h

If you were confronted by a hungry lion, would you drop to your knees and pray, or think of a real world solution?

I know what I would do.

"Atheists in foxholes" is a complete myth and complete lie. Every theist looks both ways before crossing the street.

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[Psalm 119:153, Proverbs 10:21, Isaiah 1:3, 3:12; 5:13; Jeremiah 5:4, Ezekiel 44:23, Hosea 2:13-14, 4:1; 4:12-14, 5:4, 6:6; 7:9, 7:11, 8:1, 8:12-14, 13:6, Zechariah 11:8-9, Malachi 2:7-8]

● Psalm 119:153 | Look upon my affliction & rescue me, for I have not forgotten YOUR law.

● Proverbs 10:21 | ²¹ The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of judgment.

● Jeremiah 5:4 | ⁴ Then I said, “They are only the poor; they have played the fool, for they do not know the way of the LORD, the justice of their GOD.

● Ezekiel 44:23 | ²³ They are to teach MY people the difference between the holy & the common, & show them how to discern between the clean & the unclean.

● Hosea 2:13-14 | I will punish her for the days of the Baals when she burned incense to them, when she decked herself with rings & jewelry, & went after her lovers.

But ME she forgot,” declares the LORD.

¹⁴ I will not punish your daughters when they prostitute themselves or your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery.

For the men themselves go off with prostitutes & offer sacrifices with cult prostitutes.

So a people without understanding will come to ruin.

● Hosea 4:1 | ¹ Hear the word of the LORD, O children of Israel, for the LORD has a case against the people of the land: “There is no truth, no loving devotion, & no knowledge of GOD in the land!

● Hosea 4:12-14 | ¹² MY people consult their wooden idols, & their divining rods inform them. For a spirit of prostitution leads them astray & they have played the harlot against their GOD. ¹³ They sacrifice on the mountaintops & burn offerings on the hills, under oak, poplar, & terebinth, because their shade is pleasant.

And so your daughters turn to prostitution & your daughters-in-law to adultery. ¹⁴ I will not punish your daughters when they prostitute themselves or your daughters-in-law when they commit adultery.

For the men themselves go off with prostitutes & offer sacrifices with cult prostitutes.

So a people without understanding will come to ruin.

● Hosea 5:4 | ⁴ Their deeds do not permit them to return to their GOD, for a spirit of prostitution is within them, & they do not know the LORD.

● Hosea 6:6 | ⁶ For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, & the knowledge of GOD rather than burnt offerings.

● Hosea 7:9 | ⁹ Foreigners consume his strength, but he does not notice. Even his hair is streaked with gray, but he does not know.

● Hosea 7:11 | ¹¹ So Ephraim has become like a silly, senseless dove—calling out to Egypt, then turning to Assyria.

● Hosea 8:1 | ¹ Put the ram’s horn to your lips! An eagle looms over the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed MY covenant & rebelled against MY law.

● Hosea 8:12 | ¹² Though I wrote for them the great things of MY law, they regarded them as something strange.

● Hosea 8:14 | ¹⁴ Israel has forgotten his Maker & built palaces; Judah has multiplied its fortified cities.

But I will send fire upon their cities, & it will consume their citadels.

● Hosea 13:6 | ⁶ When they had pasture, they became satisfied; when they were satisfied, their hearts became proud, & as a result, they forgot ME.

● Zechariah 11:8-9 | And in one month I dismissed three shepherds. MY soul grew impatient with the flock, & their souls also detested me.

⁹ Then I said, “I will no longer shepherd you.

Let the dying die, & the perishing perish; & let those who remain devour one another’s flesh.”

● Malachi 2:7 | ⁷ For the lips of a priest should preserve knowledge, & people should seek instruction from his mouth, because he is the messenger of the LORD of Hosts.”

● Malachi 2:8 | “But you have departed from the way, & your instruction has caused many to stumble.

You have violated the covenant of Levi,” says the LORD of Hosts.

● Isaiah 1:3 | ³ The ox knows its owner, & the donkey its master’s manger, but Israel does not know; MY people do not understand.”

● Isaiah 3:12 | Youths oppress MY people, & women rule over them. O MY people, your guides mislead you; they turn you from your paths.

● Isaiah 5:13 | ¹³ Therefore MY people will go into exile for their lack of understanding; their dignitaries are starving & their masses are parched with thirst.

Charles John Ellicott, Theologian [1819–1905] | Hosea 4:6

[6] For lack of knowledge, which you, O priest, should have kept alive in their hearts.

The knowledge of GOD is life eternal. [Comp. John 17:3]

● John 17:3 | ³ Now this is eternal life, that they may know YOU, the only true GOD, & JESUS CHRIST, whom YOU have sent.

● Proverbs 8:35 | ³⁵ For whoever finds me finds life & obtains the favor of the LORD.

● John 3:17 | ¹⁷ For GOD did not send HIS SON into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through HIM.

● John 5:44 | ⁴⁴ How can you believe if you accept glory from one another, yet do not seek the glory that comes from the only GOD?

The LORD's “controversy” repudiates the entire priesthood, as they had rejected the true knowledge of GOD.

They had inclined to calf-worship, had been vacillating respecting Baal, & had connived at moral offences.

If, on the other hand, with most commentators, we consider the people themselves as thus addressed, the passage refers to the cessation of the position of priesthood, which every member of the true theocracy ought to have maintained [Comp. Exodus 19:6]

● Exodus 19:6 | ⁶ And unto ME you shall be a kingdom of priests & a holy nation.’ These are the words that you are to speak to the Israelites.”

● 1 Peter 2:5 | ⁵ you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to GOD through JESUS CHRIST.

● 1 Peter 2:9 | ⁹ But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for GOD’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of HIM who called you out of darkness into HIS marvelous light.

● Revelation 1:6 | ⁶ who has made us to be a kingdom, priests to HIS GOD & FATHER—to HIM be the glory & power forever & ever! Amen.

The people should no longer be priests to YHWH

Joseph Benson, Methodist [1749–1821] | Hosea 4:6

MY people are destroyed for lack of knowledge—The ignorance of the nature, necessity, & excellence of true religion, which prevailed among the Jews & Israelites, was one principal cause of those sins which drew down such heavy judgments upon them.

Because YOU have rejected knowledge—That is, would not use the means of knowledge which YOU had.

“But this lack of knowledge in the people was, in a great measure, owing to the want of that constant instruction which they ought to have received from the priests.

The mention of it, therefore, occasions a sudden transition from general threatenings to particular denunciations against the priesthood.”

I will also reject thee—The high-priest for the time being, as the representative of the whole order, seems to be here addressed; that you shall be no priest to ME—

Since the person threatened was to be rejected from being a priest, he was priest at the time when he was threatened; otherwise had not been subject of rejection.

The person threatened therefore must have been the head, for the time being, of the true Levitical priesthood, not of the intruded priesthood of Jeroboam.

This is a proof, that the metropolis, threatened with excision is Jerusalem, not Samaria, & that the ten tribes exclusively are not the subject of this part of the prophecy.”—Bishop Horsley.

Seeing you have forgotten the law of your GOD—Hast neither desired nor endeavoured to understand, or retain it in your mind, nor to transmit the knowledge & remembrance of it to posterity.

I will also forget your children—Thy offspring, or the people whose priest you are, & of whom you ought to have taken fatherly care; I will not look upon them any longer as the seed of Abraham, & children of MY covenant.

Matthew Henry, Nonconformist [1662-1714] | Hosea 4:6-11

Hosea 4:6-11 | ⁶ MY people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you as MY priests.

Since you have forgotten the law of your GOD, I will also forget your children. ⁷ The more they multiplied, the more they sinned against ME;

they exchanged their glorious GOD for a thing of disgrace.

⁸ They feed on the sins of MY people & set their hearts on iniquity. ⁹ And it shall be like people, like priest.

I will punish both of them for their ways & repay them for their deeds.

¹⁰ They will eat but not be satisfied; they will be promiscuous but not multiply. For they have stopped obeying the LORD.

¹¹ Promiscuity, wine, & new wine take away understanding.

Both priests & people rejected knowledge;

GOD will justly reject them.

They forgot the law of GOD, neither desired nor endeavoured to retain it in mind, & to transmit the remembrance to their posterity; therefore GOD will justly forget them & their children.

If we dishonour GOD with that which is our honour, it will, sooner or later, be turned into shame to us.

Instead of warning the people against sin, from the consideration of the sacrifices, which showed what an offence sin was to GOD, since it needed an atonement, the priests encouraged the people to sin, since atonement might be made at so small an expense.

It is very wicked to be pleased with the sins of others, because they may turn to our advantage.

What is unlawfully gained, cannot be comfortably used.

The people & the priests hardened one another in sin; therefore justly shall they share in the punishment.

Sharers in sin must expect to share in ruin.

Any lust harboured in the heart, in time will eat out all its strength & vigour.

That is the reason why many professors grow so heavy, so dull, so dead in the way of religion.

They have a liking for some secret lust, which takes away their hearts.

Albert Barnes, American Theologian [1798-1870] | Hosea 4:6

1.] MY people are destroyed for lack of knowledge— "MY people are," not, "is." This accurately represents the Hebrew.

The word "people" speaks of them as a whole; are, relates to the individuals of whom that whole is composed.

Together, the words express the utter destruction of the whole, one & all.

They are destroyed "for lack of knowledge," literally, "of the knowledge," i.e., the only knowledge, which in the creature is real knowledge, that knowledge, of the want of which he had before complained, the knowledge of the Creator.

So Isaiah mourns in the same words,

"therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge" Isaiah 5:13.

They are destroyed for lack of it,

for the true knowledge of GOD is the life of the soul, true life, eternal life, as our Saviour saith,

"This is life eternal, that they should know Thee, the only true GOD, & JESUS CHRIST whom Thou has sent."

The source of this lack of knowledge, so fatal to the people, was the willful rejection of that knowledge by the priest;

1.] Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that you shalt be no priest to ME—

GOD marks the relation between the sin & the punishment, by retorting on them, as it were, their own acts; & that with great emphasis, "I will utterly reject thee.”

Those, thus addressed, must have been true priests, scattered up & down in Israel, who, in an irregular way, offered sacrifices for them, & connived at their sins.

For GOD's sentence on them is, "You shalt be no priest to ME."

But the priests whom Jeroboam consecrated out of other tribes than Levi, were priests not to GOD, but to the calves.

Those then, originally true priests to GOD, had probably a precarious livelihood, when the true worship of GOD was deformed by the mixture of the calf-worship, & the people "halted between two opinions;"

& so were tempted by poverty also, to withhold from the people unpalatable truth.

They shared, then, in the rejection of GOD's truth which they dissembled, & made themselves partakers in its suppression.

And now, they "despised, were disgusted" with the knowledge of GOD, as all do in fact despise & dislike it, who prefer ought besides to it.

So GOD repaid their contempt to them, & took away the office, which, by their sinful connivances, they had hoped to retain.

2.] Seeing you have forgotten the law of your GOD—This seems to have been the sin of the people.

For the same persons could not, at least in the same stage of sin, despise & forget.

They who despise or "reject," must have before their mind that which they "reject."

To reject is willful, conscious, deliberate sin, with a high hand; to "forget," an act of negligence.

The rejection of GOD's law was the act of the understanding & will, forgetfulness of it comes from the neglect to look into it; & this,

● from the distaste of the natural mind for spiritual things, ● from being absorbed in things of this world, ● from inattention to the duties prescribed by it, or shrinking from seeing "that" condemned, which is agreeable to the flesh.

The priests knew GOD's law & "despised" it; the people "forgot" it.

In an advanced stage of sin, however, man may come to forget what he once despised; & this is the condition of the hardened sinner.

I will also forget YOUR children—Literally, "I will forget YOUR children, I too." GOD would mark the more, that HIS act followed on their's; they, first; then, HE saith, "I too." He would requite them, & do what it belonged not to HIS Goodness to do first.

Parents who are careless as to themselves, as to their own lives, even as to their own shame, still long that their children should not be as themselves.

GOD tries to touch their hearts, where they are least steeled against HIM.

He says not, "I will forget thee," but I will forget those nearest YOUR heart, "thy children." GOD is said to forget, when HE acts, as if HIS creatures were no longer in HIS mind, no more.

the objects of HIS providence & love.

Jamieson-Fausset-Brow, Anglican & FC of Scotland [1871] | Hosea 4:6

lack of knowledge—"of GOD" [Hosea 4:1], that is, lack of piety.

Their ignorance was wilful, as the epithet, "My people," implies; they ought to have known, having the opportunity, as the people of GOD. thou—O priest, so-called.

Not regularly constituted, but still bearing the name, while confounding the worship of Jehovah & of the calves in Beth-el [1 Kings 12:29, 31].

I will … forget YOUR children—Not only those who then were alive should be deprived of the priesthood, but their children who, in the ordinary course would have succeeded them, should be set aside.

Matthew Poole, Nonconformist [1624-1679] | Hosea 4:6

My people: the divorce was not yet issued out, the ten tribes yet were in some sense Ammi.

Are destroyed; not only in the prophetic style, are, because ere long they shall most certainly be destroyed, but in the course of the history it is plain in matter of fact; many of them were cut off by Pul king of Assyria, 2 Kings 15, & many were destroyed by the bloody & cruel tyranny of Menahem, & more were ruined in their estates by exactions & impositions.

The civil wars, the seditions, the usurpations of some & the deposing of others, were things the prophet Hosea lived to see, & I believe speaks of here as things that had already destroyed many.

For lack of knowledge of GOD, his law, his menaces, his providences, & government of the world.

Had they known his holy nature, his jealousy for his own glory, his hatred of sin & his power to punish it, had they known their GOD, they would either have forborne to sin, or repented of what sins they had committed, & so prevented his wrath.

Because thou: the prophet now turns his words from the people to the priests among them.

The people’s ignorance was much from the ignorance & profane humour of their priests, & this the prophet doth tacitly charge on the priests, to whom he speaks as to one particular person:

Thou, who callest thyself, art accounted by the people, & goest under the name of a priest.

Hast rejected knowledge: strange perverseness! they who should direct others, who should be teachers, are & will be ignorant, will not know, reject knowledge; detestest to know, as the Chaldee paraphrase.

I will also reject thee; with equal dislike I will reject time, I will destroy your Church constitution, & with that I will destroy your priesthood; & I will do this with detestation & abhorrence too.

Thou have forgotten the law of YOUR GOD: O Israel, & you, O priests, you have all sinned together, slighted & disrespected the law, broken all the precepts of it, set up other gods, other worship, other priests than the law directs.

I will also forget; I will pay thee in YOUR own coin, I will forget, i.e. slight & disregard.

Thy children; the people of Israel, the whole kingdom of the ten tribes; both those pretended priests & their ghostly children with them.

John Gill, Baptist & Calvinist [1697-1771] | Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge—This is not to be understood of those who are the LORD's people by special grace; for they cannot he destroyed, at least with everlasting destruction; GOD's love to them, his choice of them, covenant with them, the redemption of them by CHRIST, & the grace of GOD in them, secure them from such destruction: nor can they perish through want of knowledge; for though they are by nature as ignorant as others, yet it is the determinate will of GOD to bring them to the knowledge of the truth, in order to salvation; & that same decree which fixes salvation as the end, secures the belief of the truth as the means; & the covenant of grace provides for their knowledge of spiritual things, as well as other spiritual blessings; in consequence of which their minds are enlightened by the SPIRIT of wisdom & understanding, & they have the knowledge of GOD & CHRIST given them, which is life eternal.

But this is to he understood of the people of the ten tribes of Israel, who were nationally & nominally the people of GOD, were so by profession; they called themselves the people of GOD; & though they were idolaters, yet they professed to worship GOD in their idols; & as yet GOD's "loammi" had not taken place upon them; he still sent his prophets among them, to reprove & reform them, & they were not as yet finally rejected by him, & cast out of their land.

These may be said to be "destroyed", because they were threatened with destruction, & it was near at hand, they were just upon the brink of it; & because of the certainty of it, & this "through the lack of knowledge": either in the people, who were ignorant of GOD, his mind, & will, & worship, & without fear & reverence of him, which was the cause of all the abominations they ran into, for which they were threatened with ruin; or in the priests, whose business it was to teach & instruct the people; but instead of teaching them true doctrine, & the true, manner of worship, taught them false doctrine, & led them into superstition & idolatry; & so they perished through the default of the priests in performing their office; which sense is confirmed by what follows: because YOU have rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that YOU shall be no priest to me; the priests that Jeroboam made were of the lowest of the people, ignorant & illiterate men, 1 Kings 12:31 & they chose to continue such; they rejected with contempt & abhorrence, as the word signifies, the knowledge of GOD, & of all divine things; of the law of GOD, concerning what was to be done, or not to be done, by the people; & of all statutes & ordinances relating to divine worship, & the performance of the priestly office: & though there might be some of Aaron's line that continued in the land of Israel, & in their office; yet these affected the same ignorance, & therefore the LORD threatens them with a rejection from the priesthood; or, however, that they should be no priests to him, or in his account, but should be had in the utmost abhorrence & contempt, The word here used has a letter in it more than usual [s], which may signify the utter rejection of them, & the great contempt they were had in by the LORD; this was to take place, & did, at the captivity by Shalmaneser.

Seeing YOU have forgotten the law of YOUR GOD: which he had given them, who was their GOD by profession; & which they had forgot as if they never had read or learnt it; & so as not to observe & keep it themselves, nor teach & instruct others in it:

I will also forget YOUR children; have no regard to them, take no notice & care of them, as if they were never known by him; meaning either the people in general, their disciples & spiritual children; or else their natural children, who should be cut off, & not succeed them in the priesthood.

The words are very emphatic, "I will forget them, even I" [t]; which expresses the certainty of it more fully, as well as more clearly points at the justness of the retaliation.

[s] the last is superfluous; the reason of the word being so written.

Ben Melech confesses his ignorance of.

[t] "etiam ego", Pagninus, Montanus, Zanchius, Cocceius, Rivet, Schmidt.

Geneva Study BIBLE, ‎Protestant Affiliation [1557-1560] | Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because {f} YOU have rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that YOU shalt be no priest to me: seeing {g} YOU have forgotten the law of YOUR GOD, I will also forget YOUR children. [f] That is, the priests will be cast off, because for lack of knowledge they are not able to execute their charge, & instruct others; De 33:3, Mal 2:7.

[g] Meaning the whole body of the people, who were weary with hearing the word of GOD.

Cambridge BIBLE, Anglican Editor John Perowne [1882] | Hosea 4:6

MY people are destroyed] The prophet cannot escape, because the people is on the brink of ruin through the prophet’s fault.

It is the perfect of prophetic certitude, ‘my people is already as good as destroyed.’

for lack of knowledge] More precisely, by reason of [their] lack of knowledge.

The ‘knowledge of GOD’ is meant [see on Hosea 4:1].

YOU have rejected knowledge] Thou is emphatically expressed in the Hebrew.

‘Knowledge’, viz.

of GOD’s revealed will, was theoretically a deposit in the priestly order [Deuteronomy 33:10; Ezekiel 44:23; Malachi 2:7].

There is no reason to think that the ‘priest-people’ of Israel is addressed; there was no priest-people till after the return from exile.

forgotten … forget] To ‘forget’ what has been committed to one’s charge is the same as to ignore it.

The penalty of the priests is not really distinct from that of the people [see Hosea 4:9]; the priestly office could in no full sense be maintained in captivity.

the law of YOUR GOD] ‘Thy GOD’, because the priest was specially ‘brought near’ to Jehovah.

‘The law’, Heb.

tôr âh, will cover oral as well as written instructions [comp.

Deuteronomy 17:11], but a later passage [Hosea 8:12] shows that a written legislation existed in Hosea’s time.

The contents of this may be presumed from Hosea’s language to have been, at any rate to a large extent, concerned with applications of religious morality.

thy children] i.e.

the members of the priestly caste; ‘thy brethren’ would be more consistent with the figure [compHosea 4:6.

‘thy mother’, Hosea 4:5].

Donald Spence Jones [1836-1917] |

—My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

Here the verb is plural & its subject singular, because, being collective, it comprehends all the individual members of the nation.

The word כדמו is rendered

[1] by Jerome in the sense of "silence:" "conticuit populus incus," which he explains to mean "sinking into eternal silence." So also the Chaldee.

[2] The LXX., understands it in the sense of "likeness:" "My people are like [ὡμοιώθη] as if they had no knowledge." Aben Ezra disproves this sense as follows: "This word, if it were from the root signifying 'likeness,' would have after it el with seghol, as, 'To [el with seghol] whom art YOU like in YOUR greatness?' [Ezekiel 31:2]; but without the word el it has the meaning of ' cutting off.'" So Kimchi: "Here also it has the sense of 'cutting off.'" The article before "knowledge" implies renewed mention & refers to the word in ver.

1; or it may emphasize the word as that knowledge by way of eminence, which surpasses all other knowledge, & without which no other knowledge can really prove a blessing in the end.

The knowledge of GOD is the most excellent of all sciences.

Paul counted all things but loss in comparison with its possession; & our blessed LORD himself says, "This is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true GOD, & JESUS CHRIST, whom YOU have sent;" while the Prophet Isaiah attributed the captivity to its absence: "My people are gone into captivity because they have no knowledge." Because YOU have rejected knowledge...

seeing YOU have forgotten the Law of YOUR Son.

The cause of this ignorance is here charged on the unfaithfulness of the priesthood.

They rejected knowledge & forgot the Law of their GOD.

The two concluding clauses of this verse may be regarded as "split members" of a single sentence.

As rejection implies the presence of the object rejected, while forgetfulness implies its absence from the mind or memory, some have understood rejection of knowledge as the sin of the priest, & forgetfulness that of the people.

This separation is not necessary, for what men continue for a time to despise they will by-and-by forget.

The forgetfulness is thus an advance upon rejection.

The sin of these priests was very great, for, while the priests' lips were required to keep knowledge, they neither preserved that knowledge themselves nor promoted it among the people; hence the indignant & direct address.

Thus Kimchi says: "HE addresses the priestly order that existed at that time: Thou have rejected he knowledge for thyself & to teach it to the people, consequently I will reject thee from being a priest unto me.

Since YOU dost not exercise the office of priest, which is to teach the Law, I will reject thee so that YOU shalt not be a priest in my house." I will also reject thee that YOU shalt be no priest to me...

I will also forget YOUR children, even I.

The punishment resembles the offence; the human delinquency is reflected in the Divine retaliation.

To make this the more pointed, the "YOU on YOUR part [attah]" at the head of the sentence has its counterpart, or rather is counterbalanced by the "even I" or "I too [gam ani]" at its close.

The severity of the punishment is augmented by the threat that, not only the then existing priests, but their sons after them, would be excluded from the honor of the priesthood.

This was touching painfully the tenderest part.

It needs scarcely be observed that forgetfulness is only spoken of GOD in a figurative sense, & after the manner of men, that being forgotten which is no longer the object of attention or affection.

"The meaning of אשׁ," says Kimchi, "is by way of figure, like the man who forgets something & does not take it to heart." The unusual form אֶמְאָסְאָך has been variously accounted for.

The Massorites mark the aleph before caph as redundant; it is omitted in several manuscripts of Kennicott & De Rossi, as also some of the early printed editions.

Kimchi confesses his ignorance of its use.

Olshausen treats it as a copyist's error; but Ewald "regards it as an Aram-seen pausal form." Some take the reference to be to Israel as a kingdom of priest

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