#like wtf who are you bro especially since the mom literally doesnt speak for herself

[yuyu-bi]

also would like to say smth of substance from shameless: this show really is a test of nature vs. nurture bc that episode when their mom shows up and literally tries to take liam because she messed with the other 5 kids and still has a chance on him and fiona like said all those things about them like despite the environment and lack of parenting most of the kids actually thrived in what they do and are actually functional members of society in their own ways??? honestly as a means of survival tbh and fiona herself as well

like when steve wanted to get fiona to away to costa rica bc of the cop like threatening to arrest him for his car scheme and all of them were like tellihng her to go and she almost did? ik that she would she’s way too attached to those kids she even calls them her kids and it just worried that they’re gonna forget about her or smth if she did do that??? bc like wtf even in a better situation i wouldn’t expect her to do that at all especially for a year they had trouble prying her away for a night not even a whole day 

like i wonder if they actually had decent parenting would they still be enabled to be this way? like would lip still be super smart and everything (even if he doesnt want to go to college lmao) or like ian or debbie or anything? idk it’s interesting to think about but it must suck to have a deadbeat dad still around in their lives and they have to deal w him constantly bc he technically still is like their legal guardian they even had an episode scene on why was that w fiona bc i was wondering the same thing myself lmaoooo 

like even when ian found out he wasn’t fully related to them and they went to look for his actual dad who v much had a much more stable life than frank ever could have it was like so weird to him... also a situation where smth super dramatic happens and then the next episode acts like nothing happened lmaooo like there wasnt even an ‘oh we still see you as our brother regardless’ scene or anything??? everyone was like O: omg congrats and then still treated him the same even if he was super pensive about it lmaoo