#like why isnt he in any silly season rumors?
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skijumpingf1 Ā· 7 months ago
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Great start from Paul!
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masterthespianduchovny Ā· 4 years ago
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I never wished for Gillianā€™s relationship to fail, but I was largely indifferent to it and it has nothing to do with Gillovny. Funny enough, I do actively dislike Davidā€™s relationship for obvious reasons.
I wasnā€™t super involved in the tumblr fandom during 2015-2016, but I do remember all of the fuckery that went down with David and gillian. Their behavior was what ignited dormant and new shippers. It added flames for those who never let that flame die.
So, you had all of G and Dā€™s antics and shit, which many were going crazy over. Some notable people as well who have since distanced themselves from that era. Like most people were for this shit because whatever was going on between them was too hard to dismiss as being friendly or professional behavior. Or even harmless flirting.
Now, there are those who always insisted that G and D were acting and putting this show on for the fans. I guess to drive ratings, but this argument has always been nonsensical to me. For starters, people who are interested in Gillovny are going to watch regardless. Almost everyone else donā€™t give a shit and was going to watch the revival for Mulder and Scully. The things fans went crazy over wasnā€™t enough to even get anyone interested in the show who wasnā€™t already interested.
Like, the kimmel interview is mostly only interesting to someone who follows Gillovny or knows of their history. Other people would find their behavior interesting, but would they really make them watch the show??? And itā€™s barely even a headline.
So, what they were doing back then was enough to get philes excited, but not enough to drive ratings. Which cancels out the idea that they behaved the way they did to garner attention.
But, the naysayers kept insisting that this was all a PR ploy.
After (???) season 10 premiered, Gillian was spotted with Peter I suppose. And she kept being spotted with him. Donā€™t know the true timeline. But, when this happened, suddenly, these same naysayers were Gorgan. They were all in on Peter and Gillian and throwing shots at Gillovny fans and how we were ā€œplayed.ā€
(It must be noted that just because Gillian ended up dating Peter doesnā€™t mean she didnā€™t have a thing with David. Lol)
Over time, they were gassing up this relationship and talking about Peterā€™s greatness and how he and Gillian balanced each other.
For me, my bullshit meter was going on.
Yes, some fans just wanted Gillian to be happy and shit, which Iā€™m all for, but the loud gorgan supporters used this relationship to ā€œget backā€ at the Gillovny crowd. I honestly donā€™t know how hostile it became between the two groups, but from what I did see, this support was superficial, which was proven years later.
Because, imo, how can you be for a relationship that just started and you barely know anything about it? How can you know all of this about two people you have no insight on? Gillian keeps her relationships largely private and we know even less about Peterā€™s relationships (read: marriage), yet there are posts about how these two are a good fit? Lol
What solidified my indifference was Gillianā€™s behavior. Pre like 2013, Gillian wasnā€™t really featured in the media all that much because she wasnā€™t doing any noteworthy projects. Then, she did the fall and was featured more. She was very vocal about being a feminist and shit. ā€œFuture is femaleā€, talking about her same sex relationships, didnā€™t want to be in relationships unless she was in control. Isnā€™t this the woman who famously ended a relationship by going home and leaving her then boyfriend on the beach to find his way home? Lol.
Gillianā€™s image was very independent, assertive, Iā€™m the boss, blah blah blah.
Then, she gets with Peter and itā€™s ā€œheā€™s responsible for my success.ā€ Peter this, Peter that, blah blah blah blah.
Gillianā€™s image is now submissive, insecure, handing the reigns over to her man.
That was something that made me look at her differently and not care for her relationship. It felt like whiplash from her previous image.
That image she cultivated with Peter was so contradictory in what she presented herself as while they were together. So, although I still supported her professionally, I just wasnā€™t here for the relationship.
Ironically enough, Gillian and Peter are the ones who come off as having the PR relationship compared to whatever David and Gillian were doing. Maybe not on the red carpet, but Gillian has (always) been silly and sexual with David. There are x files outtakes that proves this. She jokes/ā€œjokesā€ with David about wanting to suck his ā€œcockā€ and David has said shit to her like ā€œdid you just cum?ā€ In many of their interviews, Gillian is the the giggly and silly.
Even when Gillian was with Mark and David was still with Tea, that dynamic was there, but a muted. 2015/16 was more pronounced, but it didnā€™t come out of nowhere. So, the idea that this was PR doesnā€™t track.
But, Gillian gets with peter and, suddenly, she has a personality change and is singing the praises of her boyfriend who she later works with.
Do I believe this was a PR relationship? Tbh, I donā€™t give a shit either way. But, PR relationships exist and have always existed in Hollywood. They function many ways: to bring attention to one or both parties, to deflect from (potential) rumors, to build hype for a project, etc.
Peter and Gillian were gassing each other up and shit, selling one another and their relationship. Many famous married couples donā€™t even talk about their spouses like them (and, yes, I believe these married couples love one another).
The thing about David and Gillian is that, even tho some thought something may have been going on around 2015, some people have always thought they were fucking at one point in time. Others think they just have massive chemistry. But, why would they need to fake a thing between them that they wonā€™t admit to to manufacture interest in the show that people were excited to see come back? It sounds contrived, doesnā€™t it?
Compare that to: a well loved and acclaimed actress who hasnā€™t had meaty work in a while getting together with the creator and writer of a show thatā€™s an Emmy darling. Theyā€™re always singing each otherā€™s praise, which is noteworthy for a person who doesnā€™t talk about her relationship much. Who she then later works with on said show.
Which one sounds more like PR?
The actors whoā€™ve had mad chemistry since theyā€™ve auditioned together? Whoā€™s chemistry never wavered even when they couldnā€™t stand each other and now are in a better place?
Or...
The actress and writer who talk about how wonderful their partner is and that this relationship is so mature, and then later work on his show together before breaking up a month later?
I honestly donā€™t think itā€™s absurd to have skepticism towards gorgan. Many of those adamant that gorgan was real and others are delusional are invested in gorgan because their anti Gillovny. And some did truly want to see her happy, but most werenā€™t invested in that way.
Whether someone thinks gorgan was real or not, I found it embarrassing on Gillianā€™s part. Itā€™s probably more embarrassing if it was PR and sad if it was real.
And I know ppl will disagree with that because they found the relationship mature and supportive, but again, crediting Peter with the success of her career??? You canā€™t even argue, ā€œshe means nowā€ because Gillian was getting a career resurgence and rave reviews for Stella Gibson and bedelia de murier (???). She had her role in American gods (I know it was one episode).
And in each of these roles, it was ā€œomg! Gillian Anderson!!!ā€
She was so loved in Hannibal, they fucking expanded her role. And this was all pre Peter (American gods may have had some overlap).
Gillian isnt ā€œstrugglingā€ for roles because people donā€™t want to hire her, sheā€™s ā€œstrugglingā€ because sheā€™s trying to find roles that balances being a working actor with being a hands on mom.
And thatā€™s why I was always ā€œmehā€ about the relationship. I donā€™t think Peterā€™s a bad guy and heā€™s good at his job, but the way Gillianā€™s persona changed during this relationship was off putting and I didnā€™t care to get invested in them for that reason. But, as I mentioned on other occasions, the vocal support of the relationship and notable silence when they ended will always be fascinating to me. I honestly believe that gorgan support was fueled by the anti Gillovny crowd and backlash to Davidā€™s relationship (its a šŸ¤® for me too) and behavior towards Gillian regarding the x filesā€™ potential continuance.
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lucidpantone Ā· 4 years ago
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sorry I might have missed something, but what rummors about willem ds are you talking about?
This starts from s4 times btw. First that he was never going to be part of s4 and then he like left wtfock or he wasnt in it at all anymore. That rumor was out for the longest time and I don't really get why people believed it since they all have contracts. Then he did show up and then everyone was like he is only in one scene blah blah. He wont be in any of the cast clips and he was at senneā€™s party clip. Now people are like Willem isn't really gonna be part of s5. I have literally ask this specifically and my connect said he is part of s5 thats just silly. I asked is it a limited role they said its comparable to the same scene count that nicotino had in italia s4 which is about 6-7 clips depending if you count in the nico + sana only clips. The thing is more so people have an unhealthy obsession tracking this kidā€™s every move and if they don't see him for 5secs they are like he isnt part of wtfock. Like he doesnt engage probably not because he isnt part of the cast but because people legit stalk him and create rumors about his character, his schedule, his acting commitments, his school commitments. Its super weird and honestly am happy willem doesnt engage the fans its for his safety. Also sobbe stans will complain 6-7 clips isnt alot of clips or not meaningful but my guys thats literally the exact clip count of nicotino and that subplot was perfectly fine told with 6 nicotino clips. You all just complain because what you really want to say is just take time away from yasmina to see sobbe. Well its not their season 6 clips to me is fine for the subplot.
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heartsoftruth Ā· 7 years ago
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Our matches have been zzs for sometime now but there isnt more1 can expect its an incomplete team trying to regain its balance we lost our 2nd best player&our team was already weak then his replacement injured so now its very important we just have some control in the game get those points even if its boring with dembele back we'll get our depth back quite a lot. Honestly who even thot we will lead wen season started valverde shld get some credit for atleast giving some balance here.
Thatā€™s true and at least we lead with a nice lead on RMA and I wasnt expecting that AT ALL starting this season. (Iā€™m still surprised how bad they do purely looking at the names in the teamā€¦)
But with Valencia coming up and no Geri, Iā€™m a little apprehensiveā€¦Ā 
But indeed Valverde does what he could with the players he has, but also some of the choices I donā€™t get at all..Ā 
Anonymous said:Itā€™s so frustrating to watch Ney lately, yes heā€™s scoring goals but most of the time heā€™s completely off. Clearly the off field issues are affecting him but he needs to get his act together asap!! Psg must win the CL otherwise his season will be a failure. And if that happens, heā€™s gonna take all that negative energy into the World Cup
Heā€™s off ever since that red cardā€¦Ā 
I tbh donā€™t care about his CL. I kinda stepped away from that now that Iā€™m getting WC nerves haha. I care about his WC. Iā€™m starting to think now: ā€œwhy couldnt you wait AT LEAST one year with this huge ass transfer? Do it after the WC and not in a year where youā€™re in your prime and with a WC coming up where Brazil (looking at their qualifiers) is one of the faves. That alone is more then enough pressure for himā€¦ But he always got to make it difficult for himselfā€¦Ā 
But in 2018 he has a big shot at it. A really big shot - not if they play like against ENG but I think Iā€™ve said enough about that haha - so he better be focused because I canā€™t have a non focused Neyā€¦ Let him have his dip now and not in the summer.Ā 
Anonymous said:With his current form pique wouldnā€™t make much of a difference anyway sadly. Even today he was bullied entire match&marc saved his ass all the time. Verma isnā€™t a bad player he will play a decent game next week but then wont play again for a month dudeā€™s made up of jellyšŸ™ˆšŸ˜… and for the other question at his level if the coach cannot trust pique to be a bit more sensible&avoid unnecessary yellow cards then thatā€™s an issue quite a big one. Hopefully pique gets it together as the season progresses
Yeah a form dip is normal for players. Weā€™re used to Leo almost never having one, but heā€™s out of this world. All the other players do suffer from it and Geri is in one now. Letā€™s hope he gets out of this funk.Ā 
But didnt he also joined the team a day later due to family problems? So who knows whatā€™s on his mind atmā€¦Ā 
Anonymous said:Iā€™ve never seen his personal life affect his professional life THIS much. And heā€™s had wayyy worse issues (tax fraud)!!! Clearly not everything is as it seems in Paris šŸ˜©šŸ˜©šŸ˜©šŸ˜©šŸ˜©
I kinda missed the first half (watched Barca more) and during the second half I wasnā€™t paying full attentionā€¦ So I canā€™t really comment on it.Ā 
Anonymous said:šŸ˜± Barbara Palvin was at the game ā€¦. wait for the rumor mills to begin šŸ˜’ā€¦ oooh and Tyga was there also šŸ˜‚
Yeah I saw her in shot during the game! And ughhh Tyga too. I would have ignored him if I was PSG but oh well haha.Ā 
Anonymous said:Hate to say it but Cavani has actually been ā€˜outshinningā€™ Neymar on the pitch for a while now. This is not good šŸ˜«šŸ˜© still canā€™t believe Neymar made this silly move just when he was getting to a good place in his career and becoming such a KEY player at barca. Now people are actually joking that he left messiā€™s shadow to be under cavaniā€™s shadow. I mean Cavaniii?? No offense but itā€™s just making me wish Neymar had stayed put!
I always wish Ney stayed at Barcaā€¦ Now he has to suck it up and deal with where he isā€¦ And try to give it all and make the best of it.Ā 
Like I said I havent watched yesterdayā€™s match with much attention so I canā€™t comment on it. Of course Cavani is a great player for PSG and he plays there for a while with this team too. I havent seen any shadow jokes other than after the penalty incident, but people just love to hate on Ney. Now more than ever.Ā 
Anonymous said:Hey, thank you so much for the title of the song of the video of Ney yesterday šŸ™šŸ»šŸ’–
No problem! Glad I could help!Ā šŸ˜Š
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