#like this is a nonissue. where is the problem. it doesnt have to be done and it makes them uncomfortable.

[gibbearish]

i will say also one thing ive noticed with the cake smash debate is by and large (and esp in wedding situations), women tend to hate it and men tend to be the ones who think its turbo hilarious and the women are being big whiny babies and can't take a joke. just food for thought

[foulserpent]

i think the issue with the 10000 rats problem is it doesnt define the circumstances very well. like can the animals strategize beyond their normal capabilities? or will the just attack/defend you to an unnatural degree but in the ways theyre naturally capable of?

the 10000 rats are a given, but i think like depending on the scenario the only answers are the 50 eagles or 9 bulls

50 eagles works IF theyre capable of strategy, which would mean they could focus entirely on blinding opponents and prioritizing the most dangerous (especially the human gunman) first. even if not, 50 eagles is still a lot and would be effective at wearing down your enemies, but im pretty sure anything besides the rats could maim them in one good hit. theyre still viable, but i think its risky to have no allies that can absorb a major blow.

9 bulls is really good. i dont think people understand how tough cattle are. like they assume that because we eat them they must be easy pickings but like. predators tend to go for the weakest (young) or sickest members of the herd BECAUSE they dont stand as good of a chance against a healthy adult, especially not as aggressive as a bull. ONE bull is usually enough to protect a small herd. and again, cattle are fucking tough. they will just walk around on grievous injuries as if it were nothing. they will be in the field with their guts hanging out still grazing. if the scenario DOESNT involve the animals being unusually intelligent, the bulls are the best choice

10 crocodiles have limited efficiency on land, and in water would likely be only able to take out one enemy at a time, since much of the way they kill is done by drowning. even if theyre capable of strategizing and their goal is just to maim, its not much, and again it really depends on where this takes place.

15 wolves are nothing. a pack of 15 wolves in nature will try to take out 1 deer and fail half of the time. theyre most efficient as pack hunters, so even if they were capable of strategization it would be more or less the same, though they could devote themselves to taking out the human first

the human is not effective as an ally. one bolt action rifle cant do shit against the masses of animals. as an enemy, theyre pretty dangerous because they can land a hit on you from a distance. the eagles are definitely the best counter against them, but ONLY if the eagles can strategize and target the human first. if youre in a situation where you can hide, the human is a nonissue.

4 lions are pretty negligible. lions usually hunt in larger groups than that and theyd be pretty overwhelmed. 

5 gorillas are also pretty negligible. theyre big and tough but unlike most things on this list, they arent really built to either take out large animals or defend against groups of predators. theres just not enough of them

3 bears are good but they really arent the answer, like as individuals theyre all around best but theres only three of them. theyd absolutely be taken out. one bear in real life generally would not try to take out ONE bull on its own. out of the predators, they would definitely be hardest to kill, but theres just not enough of them.