#like no disrespect to the artist

[amygdalae]

i think what people tend to forget is that laughing at modern art also counts as having a dialogue with it. like as long as you're respectful of the museum space and whatnot. you are under no obligation to take any of it seriously. when i go to a modern art museum I do engage with every piece and read the blurb and think deeply/discuss its intention and its execution but it doesnt stop me from having a giggle at the ones i think are stupid. often the artist is equally aware that it may be stupid. sometimes that's the point also. it's fun!

[katzenklavierr]

Minor pet peeve is when there's a piece of art (or even a meme) that evokes a negative feeling and ppl feel the need to make a "positive" edit/sequel/whatever like maybe negative feelings are okay sometimes. Maybe we can express feelings of despair and anger and loneliness and even self-destructiveness through art and we don't always need to turn it into an "everything will be okay tho :)" message just because those feelings aren't nice to have. Like maybe that's the point, dipshit. We all feel bad sometimes, we all get the ugly emotions, and art lets us feel it together and make meaning out of it. I get that the intentions are well-meaning, but it's irritating as fuck.

[glitter-stained]

I'm not saying Nick Robles should have been the one to draw Task Force Z but I do believe with that comic's determination to draw jason naked every issue he would have had a lot of fun with it

[idolomantises]

I'm sure Good Omens is a decent show but i wish the Azicrow shippers could understand that running up to artists and telling them how their lesbian artwork reminds them of two men is very strange!

[gracie-rosee]

Feyre Archeron would not support AI by the way. She’d throw you in the Prison.

[martyrbat]

rip to bruce but if i fumbled her i would literally kill myself

[frutavel]

Art Art juice's completely dried up fellows it's dire out here all but thankfully I got silly tumblr posts to help me scrape by

[ratislatis]

I'll find you. Wait for me.

hee hee hoo hoo AUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PAIN PAIN SUFFERING PAIN IN ALL DIRECTIONS!!!! TO HELL WITH IT (LITERALLY)!!!!!!!!!

[amtrak12]

After a conversation with a friend about this weird trend of fic readers who only want epic length fics (and also what seems to be a massive misunderstanding between parties on terms and their definitions), I went searching for the fandom sources I cut my teeth on. I don't have much bookmarked from those days anymore, but googling got me to this fiction length/terminology breakdown from a Livejournal blog. (Which also has good fandom definitions for other terms like A/N and fanon too, so if you're super new to fandom, go check that out.)

The definitions come from the publishing world (hence the page counts), but fandom and fanfic has always borrowed heavily from official publishing terminology. Flash fiction (aka, anything less than 1k words) is called a 'ficlet' within fandom. We call everything else a fic until it reaches the novella mark -- which may start at 20k words but as synecdochic breaks down on their Dreamwidth blog, there's a lot of overlap between short stories and novella word counts. Because, when you're not constrained by physical page counts, the real dividing line between short stories and novellas are the number of plots and themes you're using. (Seriously, go read their meta on this topic. It's fantastic!) Either way, once you're hitting tens of thousands of words, you're in longfic territory. And then if your fic is even longer than that -- 100k+ like shown in the screenshot above -- it's called an epic fic.

And these terms, longfic and epic, are important because they're used to differentiate these stories from the average fic. Because, at least in the 2000s up until the 2020s, the most common fic lengths you ran into were between 1k-20k words. "Fic" made the reader assume only a few thousand words at most. It's only when you changed the term to drabble or ficlet or longfic that they would realize 'oh this is going to be shorter or longer than normal'.

I don't really understand why that baseline assumption has changed amongst the newer demographics (and maybe amongst some long-running fandom members too?). I've seen a lot of theories and 'tiktokification' complaints, but I honestly don't know what's true. And I don't want to start a fight or even try to change anyone's minds if they are dead set against reading short story length fics. You can do what you want!

Just maybe shift your attitude about it a little bit? Remember that it's a personal preference the same way tropes are, and that one story length isn't better than another. Just like tropes, each story length serves its purpose. Some stories are best told in 1-2k words. Some are best told as 100 word drabbles -- or even a single sentence! And then, yes, some stories do need to be 100k+ in order to be told properly.

But that's not every story. And it shouldn't be expected of fic writers to pad a 1500 word plot into some sprawling epic just because they left it on a cliffhanger. The cliffhanger is probably the point of that fic! Short stories are an entirely separate art form to novels and as such are able to cover different topics than novels can or cover the same topics differently. And that's what makes them special!!

And look at that word count breakdown by genre! That's mainstream publishing standards! Now, go back up there to the definition of a novel and notice that the average published novel is 80k words long.

Let me repeat that:

The average length of a published novel is 80,000 words long.

Could a novel go longer? Sure! And if you're dipping into adult sci-fi or fantasy, absolutely it will be longer! But does your fic need to be longer than the average novel in order to be good? In order for you to feel satisfied when you finish reading it? Why does the length of the fic matter more to you than the content?

idk just some rambling food for thought, but I guess too long, don't read:

~✨~ Every story length is valid ~✨~

It just depends on the plot you have and the structure you want to use to tell it.

[mister-nibbs]

oh!! oh also

IF CONSIDERING THE BUDGET/WARDROBE CHOICES OF MR CHONNATHAN JASHINGTON, uhhh I think maybe the Jayden Wark Power Hour could maybe look like this in MVs maybe. still dunno if he has a vest. or that he would put lil heart details on his face, he doesn't normally do that so eeeeeeeh but yeah. feel like we're missing a bit though, gonna try to push it a bit further with what he's worn in the past as reference

figuring out other things in the meantime as well!! i mostly doodle in my sketchbook at my outpatient program where we're not allowed to use our phones (for obvious reasons) so I may not have all the info I need. shit I should do this at home too dhhxjc explodes BUT I'M BUSY WITH. The other thing GAHHHH

[suchscary]

Too many artists who do commissions, in my experience, don't take their job seriously enough.

It's a meme how some artists take months to complete a comm and "haha im so grateful for having patient commissioners" but that's just poor work ethics on the artist's part.

When you offer commissions, you don't just offer art, you also have to communicate with your client properly, give them proper updates, ask them for feedback during process, discuss things that your ToS doesn't cover if needed, and so on.

Just for example, if you're taking longer than expected, let them know why (just vague "due to personal problems" is enough) and if needed, offer a refund or another alternative instead of making your commissioner reach out to you for updates themselves and possibly stressing them out.

Otherwise, you're treating your commissioner like a nuisance that you're forced to work with, not a client who offers you money in return for proper service.

[ewwww-what]

I’m going to say something extremely neutral. The fantasy high webtoon is made for people who watch the show casually or haven’t seen it, and also for people who don’t care about anyone other than Riz. And that is fine.

[sluttyspiderkinnie]

I need to hear your circus shipping thoughts pwease (⁀ᗢ⁀)

If you’re asking how I feel about shipping in general — it’s fine and I honestly never mind it. As long as what’s being shipped and consequently drawn/written about/roleplayed/etc is two adults (especially if the shipping content is nsfw) then have fun! My only exception is shipping characters that canonically have sexualities that wouldn’t match up — that’s really disrespectful imo.

As for TADC, I don’t really ship anyone at this particular moment. I’m starting to think maybe that Gangle and Zooble would be really sweet together, but I haven’t gotten those pupils-dilating-gnawing-at-the-furniture-I’m-so-hellbent-and-intent-I-need-it brain wormies I usually get when I ship characters. And I know I predominantly blog/scream about Jax but I don’t ship him with anyone lmao. (I thought about answering this ask sarcastically and saying Jax x Kaufmo’s bowling ball looool).

[starsandwriting]

Claudia get behind me I'm killing everyone in this theatre and then myself

[shoobeedododo]

I had no idea people were shouting Vessel's real name at concerts... in this context, that's fucking crazy behaviour. This goes beyond concert etiquette, it's just disrespectful in general.

Caramel clearly points a finger and makes me think about how we normalize weird shit for artists because "it comes with the job".

[overgrowninterests]

i hope this doesnt come off as rude but im genuinely curious if anyone agress: does anyone else just not like the new cover arts for aftg? Not in the sense that the originals were better but almost like disappointment by the fanart-y style? I feel like there was potential to portray a lot of cool symbolism or depth but instead it's just fanart of a few characters...