#like imagine being jay and reading paragraph after paragraph of assholes saying your writing as bad like 2 minutes after the end of the live

[vicstarskiez]

REAL!! The drop of Thunder Saga is actually like right when I seriously started to get into the fandom rather than just listen to the songs every now and again and everyone was so genuinely welcoming and nice and it was fun to talk about stuff (unfortunately none of my posts from back then are up anymore because I purged my account after a nasty breakup an old fandom of mine and wanting all that shit off my dashboard and page permanently)

Now I mostly stick with yapping to my friends in the fandom and from time to time just random people on tumblr since it’s MOSTLY chill(?) here. Oh god forbid I talk in the discord though holy hell, I’m scared of that place now actually and it’s genuinely kinda sad?? Like I used to spend a good chunk of my day talking about Epic in the discord server but after Vengeance saga it’s like the toxicity just increased x10, like sure there were annoying people before that but LORD after Vengeance saga released shit went so far downhill. There was a new argument or “debate” (these things weren’t debates half they were just arguments) almost every day for like nearly two-ish weeks or something, sometimes they were for valid reason, but other times they would be the STUPIDEST DEBATES EVER. Like one time I had to sit there and explain how Ancient Greek morality is different from modern day and how that DOES in fact matter in Epic and how gods have different morals than human beings and are naturally pretty morally gray since you can take their actions many different ways. All the bs has really turned me away from talking much in the server at this point. Genuinely like last time I spoke someone in the server POINTED OUT how I’ve been absent for such a long time and genuinely I just blamed it on school

And the discord server, really just the epic chat (though apparently there was drama in the fucking singing vc because someone or some group of people were being controlling assholes????), getting more toxic is honestly so sucky. The fandom as a whole getting more toxic sucks because something like that is definitely the farthest thing from what Jorge ever wanted to come out of this musical.

All this just to say: yeah I hate it too and wish the fandom was still as chill as it was what? Four months ago? Crazy how much changed in four fucking months. Like im glad Epic is getting more fans and more recognition because Jorge and all the singers deserve it, but it really sucks that that came at the price of the fandom getting more toxic than ever.

I also blame the decline/death of media literacy for some of the bullshit I see. I swear just a LITTLE bit of media literacy would go a LONG way for toning down the toxicity

Don't get me wrong I'm so excited for the Ithaca saga, I can't wait to see Telemachus and Athena again, to finally hear Penelope, to see more of Odysseus' ruthlessness, but oh gods do I miss the vibe before and after the Thunder saga (that's when I joined the fandom) - fangirling over Zeus (and Luke), Perimedes/Elpenor lore, everyone losing their shit over sirens and different beast, listening to mutiny for the first time and Eurylochus' "ody"... *sigh*