#liberal asoiaf fans are goofy

[pricklypear1997]

Y’all gotta stop shipping Arya with Jon and like half of Westeros… seriously. She’s a 12 year old child, and shows no interest in anyone except Gendry and even she’s unaware of that feeling lmao. The only other possible choices would probably be Edric Dayne, or maybe even Elmar Frey xD but she shows no interest in either… her love for Jon is purely platonic, I’m NOT sorry. Maybe in GRRM’s original outline it was different, but ngl, his original outline was TERRIBLE. No way I would’ve read that if that had been the story. I am so, so, so, tired of people mischaracterizing Arya… she’s a traumatized and depressed child who lost her parents.

Unlike Sansa, (I’m sorry Sansa stans, but I gotta compare the two), arya is not some cheesy hopeless romantic. As for her sexuality, well idk, she’s a freaking 12 year old, but you know what I’m certain of? She’s a young girl growing into a woman that lives in a society that’s constantly pressuring her to marry. She’s constantly threatened and harassed by men, but unlike some of the other female characters (cersei, Asha Greyjoy, etc) Arya isn’t the kind of person who’d use her body like that. She’s not gonna suddenly grow up and want to use what’s between her legs to control men, and she’s certainly not going to thirst for dick or she might die a virgin (GoT season 8, ep 2), and she’s literally traumatized out of her fucking mind while also being constantly dismissed as a woman. She ain’t gonna fuck some random dude and be like “Jk I don’t actually love you” or suddenly feel hot for her brother or whoever as soon as she returns to Westeros. Just because she befriended a group of prostitutes absolutely does NOT mean that she supports such an evil industry that uses women regardless, nor does she support certain attitudes regarding to sex that are NOT healthy. There is ample proof, that just because she’s friends to anyone who treats her with kindness, it does not mean she supports their life style. She got really angry when Ned Dayne alluded that her father might’ve slept with Ashara Dayne. Arya took great personal offense to that. She’s not just a Stark, nor just a Tully, she EMBODIES their beliefs. That includes honor. There is no honor in cheating, there is no honor in promiscuity, there is no honor in turning to purely sexual behavior without there being love. GRRM based Arya off of first and second wave feminists specifically. I genuinely believe that by today’s standards, Arya would be considered a “radical” feminist, simply because she is in strong opposition of “sexual positivity”. I think as a child, with deep trauma she’s most likely sex negative, which is why some fans of the series type her as asexual, but she’s a young and traumatized child. An issue that doesn’t seem to ever be addressed in the fandom is that literally most the female “sexuality” that’s displayed in the books, is actually exploitive in one way or another. GRRM was trying to point out how bad it was for women in the olden days, although the show misconstrued that and turned it into some kind of fetish… back to the books, what cersei does, she learned. She learned that by being a woman and a woman with a ton of influence, she can use her body as a way to control men… she herself was repeatedly raped by her own husband, but she realized that she can use her body to use men in any way she wants. She learned that men are weak and will do anything for a “crumb of pussy” basically. Asha, has been “promiscuous” and slept around with many men since she was 16 (or something like that according to AFFC), and she has no regard for other women and has that sick ironborn mentality that men should be allowed to rape women as they see fit. Arianne Martell literally wooed and used her sexuality to get Arys Oakheart to do her bidding and what it do in the end? It costed him his life. She cries and convinces herself that he actually loved her and that it wasn’t because of her sexual manipulation. The prostitutes that Arya befriends in Braavos… do you ever wonder why or how they do what they do? Most likely they’ve been trafficked or perhaps they figured out that they can get money and live a better life rather in slumming it out, because men will literally pay to use them… do you think Arya is genuinely supportive of pro sexual “feminism” and believes that women are somehow empowered by being sexualized by men? Absolutely NOT. So idk, maybe stop portraying Arya as some kind of bimbo. Maybe stop sexualizing her relationship with her freaking brother… IDC if he’s her biological cousin, there is nothing sexual about the relationship. And Arya ain’t going to rush back to Westeros just to dick ride some guy. That just isn’t Arya (neither is the complete asexual).

Ran out of writing space for that first block, but anyways, the only sensical and in character way that I could see Arya being in a relationship with someone else, that involves sexual intimacy, is if she is an adult (NOT A TEENAGER) who’s finally started to realize her feelings for someone (hopefully Gendry), and the relationship can finally start to grow, slowly. I think the other person would have to show his love for Arya too in a way where she feels honored and respected by this person. This person would have to tell Arya first that loves her. Arya is way too shut in when it comes to feelings revolving those things to even admit she likes someone in a romantic way. The other person should probably profess his love to her without being overly smothering about it, and without pressuring her. None of this out of the blue “oh yeah let’s fuck right now, especially from returning from Braavos” bullshit. 🙄 give Arya the time and the worthy love she deserves!

On another note; I forgot to mention that one of the other reason Cersei uses her sexuality against other men is to feel power and control, due to being raped, she wants that power back. Sometimes rape victims do choose promiscuity to reclaim their sexuality, some don’t. I doubt Arya would be in support of something like that either. It’s clearly unhealthy. No person whether healthy or wanting to be healthy, would support such a mindset.

Another argument to make;

Arya still fights to live. Arya doesn’t give up, and Arya surrenders to nobody. Even if she has to pretend to be obedient as Roose Bolton’s cupbearer, Arya, would never surrender to any circumstance. Arya fights what she believes in. She fights for herself, and her honor, she fights for her family and the common people, and last but NOT LEAST, WOMEN!! Arya does not hate women or womanhood in any shape or form! The show completely made that up. The media (television, Hollywood) has a hobby of showing “empowered females” by making them act like men and hate women… it’s everywhere. GoT did that with Arya, while of course making her all of a sudden a dominatrix who likes to use men for her own sexual pleasure too, completely opposite to book Arya and a mockery of Arya, women and female sexuality altogether in my opinion.

So enough with your stupid theories that arya will die, or lose herself and become some kind of emotionless assassin, or that she’ll return to Westeros and be the biggest slut in town (seriously wtf lmao), and enough with drawing Arya to make her look more like Catelyn and Sansa. She shares absolutely NO physical features to them.

STOP CHANGING ARYA STARK.

Also, I’ve noticed that a lot of you really do not respect GRRM’s work at all, so you try to change the characters and insert your funny politics into it… like some of y’all are seriously mad because Westeros is based off medieval European society??? GRRM is of European origin… like he’s gonna have better knowledge and a better understanding of that than any other group. Like for real, some of y’all are trying to turn this into LoTR: ROP (it’s not good let me tell you) instead of just making a mockery out of a series you clearly have no respect for, why not just create your own fantasy series where you can insert whatever kind of people and politics that you want. Idk. Why not, just represent yourself and your people instead of demanding it from others? Some of y’all are great writers and have potential, so maybe stop leaning on people who don’t even have the same life experience as you to speak for you. They���re not obligated too. They don’t owe you anything. GRRM doesn’t owe you or me anything. So just appreciate his crazy but amazing series or leave I guess. Antis are gonna anti, but there’s no point in even calling yourself a “fan” or saying that you’re interested in a series that you clearly don’t respect.

Anyway I’m getting off tangent here.

But TLDR; stop changing Arya Stark. STOP CHANGING HER. I see you 👀

[pricklypear1997]

People shouldn’t even be making racebent characters to begin with… they’re just trying to insert themselves, and for some reason can’t seem to accept the fact that they might relate to a White character??? I also just find it disrespectful to try to change the canon material to your own liking. That doesn’t seem very respectful to the creator’s original intent. There’s literally no excuse or argument to make for race swapped characters. It’s over all just racist and stupid to one group or another. Why can’t people just create their own stories??? A lot of these people who do race bending think asoiaf is racist because it has “too many white people”… ummm it’s based off of medieval Europe… not 21st century USA. Martin is also white. It’s not his job to cater to anyone else in his stories. He can write about whatever race he wants, but it makes perfect sense that he’d write about white characters because he’s white, and his experience is that of a European American, therefore it would be easier for him to write about other white characters… do you just expect every other racial group to think about you, cater to you and write about you??? I think not… that would be weirdly obsessive, then again, most of the ASOIAF “fans” on tumblr are American and non white and just feel the need to shove their silly American race politics into everything. Granted there’s a lot of white fans too, who want to “please” every non white on tumblr by drawing non white characters, while also making it all the more racist. 🤦🏻‍♀️. Look, not every story has to have a diverse cast. It’s never been like that. If you want to feel represented, then go to your own culture and find those stories that you want. Make your own adaptation from said fairy tales and stories, stop trying to take away from another group (in this case white people) and honestly, just stop ruining the integrity of another person’s work. If you honestly feel the compulsion to change the race of a character, and to change major plots and entire character personalities (*ahem*: Arya stark) and plots, then this isn’t the right series for you. You clearly don’t respect it, nor like it. So just stop. Move on to something else. Better yet, find one of your more “contemporary” shows that’s full of all the American diversity you could possibly want… this is no different from Lord of the Rings; Rings of power. The people claim to be “fans” but literally claim how much of a sexist and a racist JRR Tolkien was, while completely altering the story and changing character personalities completely. It doesn’t even look like lord of the rings… looks like some messed up post apocalypse neo-feudalist reset of New York… like wtf??? It’s kinda funny too, because middle earth is based off of Europe and European folklore… that is the focus of the story… but there’s other countries and continents in the world of LotR, it’s just not the main focus. It’s the same with ASOIAF. I think there are some legitimate things that can be criticized when it comes to ASOIAF, but race is NOT it. Neither is sexism, but the show is incredibly sexist 100%. There’s another huge controversy besides race bending, and that’s giving characters gender identities and sex changes. :/ like that too needs to stop. Once again, you want a character that’s lgbt? Make your own stories. Besides ASOIAF has some lgbt in it already, not a lot, but that’s literally because WE ARE THE MINORITY. my fave gets race bent as some ambiguously dark skinned Asian/Native American , she gets misgendered as “they/them” or even as a trans boy, is written off as asexual or maybe bisexual, gets her personality and story arc completely rewritten by the fandom, gets shipped with like 12 other characters, despite showing zero interest (bro she’s 9-12 in the story), except maybe just a little for one particular character, is made to look a bit more like her older sister but with a darker complexion too despite looking NOTHING alike, is said to hate women, blah blah blah… I swear, most of the fans of this series, saw the show and loved everything about it.

But would literally change one thing, and that’s make all the characters “PoC”. As someone who is bisexual, and “mixed race” (3/4ths white Eastern European/Balkan and 1/4th Asian) I still relate to Arya 100% and I don’t feel the need to change her. I don’t want to change her. Just like I don’t want people to try to change me, or force their false perceptions onto me, which is something I’ve dealt with most of my life lol. I’ve dealt with the same kind of bullying and ostracizing that Arya went through. I suffer from PTSD and depression, same as Arya. This series has helped me accept myself as I am, through a character like Arya. So why would I want to change her? If you actually love this series, then stop trying to change it and it’s characters. Stop inserting your stupid racist and sexist obsessions and fetishizes into this story. I’m sooooo tired of it.

If Jon and Arya are POC compared to whites Catelyn, Sansa, Robb, Bran and Rickon as depicted in all the fanart, then Sansa is not only classist but really racist as well:

Why couldn’t Arya be sweet and delicate and kind, like Princess Myrcella? She would have liked a sister like that. It would have been easier if Arya had been a bastard, like their half brother Jon. She even looked like Jon, with the long face and brown hair of the Starks, and nothing of their lady mother in her face or her coloring. And Jon’s mother had been common, or so people whispered. - Sansa, AGoT

Notice Sansa including Arya’s ‘coloring’ for why she dislikes Arya as her sister and instead wants Arya to be a low born bastard like Jon Snow? If you take this to mean Arya’s skin color and not hair color, then Sansa really is a racist bigot.

Keep that in mind when drawing your racist fanart.