#leviathan.dlg

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

….that is not what I said?? They put “we” and “everyone around us” as separate, and I took it as them placing the people affected by eugenics as those “everyone around us”. I also very much actively talked about wanting humans to survive, I am sorry if that wasn’t clear. But that is literally what I talked about when I was talking about the events of mass extinction. They talked about them and the “life finds a way”, but the life that finds a way is not the beings and specieses that lived before the events and died in them. I don’t want anyone to die in such events.

…….edit, also is me saying that disabled people don’t have to be useful to have the right to live “infighting among disabled people”???????????

eugenics is a big scary word and yet people that would claim to be left-leaning can very easily be convinced to be pro-eugenics if you just never use the word. like oh you think "dumb people" shouldnt be allowed to reproduce? you think "dumb people" shouldnt be allowed to have children? its kinda scary

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

Not Everyone Is Able To Do That

For many the idea of common sense goes much beyond that!

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Not everyone is able to do that

For many the idea of common sense goes much beyond that!

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So, sorry, but congratulations on missing literally the entire point of the post

"Common sense" is not actually a thing.

If something is common sense to you, it is actually simply just because at some point in your life, perhaps a very long time ago, it was made explicit enough for you, and you were able to internalize it long term.

Even mainstreamly, things that are common sense to some are not to others. Then we have differing backgrounds, and then we have disability, about which this post was originally first of all intended.

"Common sense" is literally very close to "basic DNI". Or, "this food contains allergens. You know, the basic ones."

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

Do you mean private from all but those who gave it, or private outside the healthcare system?

Because I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic outside of the US and I face medical discrimination in completely unrelated fields because of my diagnosis.

With ableism so prominent in the world, do you think it's worth getting a diagnosis for a dissociative disorder if able? On one hand, it can be good for getting distressing symptoms treated and getting the help you need, but on the other hand, a lot of people might treat you horribly, and you might be stopped from doing a lot of stuff, like working certain jobs, drive a car, or even move to another country. Really want a diagnosis for help but can't decide if it's worth it or not :( sorry if ur not the person to ask for this

A diagnosis is private. Nobody can stop you from doing something because of a diagnosis. And it's technically illegal to if they did find out. That doesn't mean they won't do something to you for having a disability. But it does mean they have find a reason to justify it.

If you're concerned, you're allowed to keep your diagnosis as private, or make it as public, as you'd like.

There isn't generally a downside to getting a diagnosis as long as you're careful with who you reveal it to.

And if a medical provider does reveal or threaten to reveal your private medical information without your consent, remember that this is a violation of your medical rights. I believe most countries have some sort of protection for this. In the United States, this would be protected under HIPAA.

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

I can’t always know what is hard to read (which can be very different for different people) and too long.

DON'Ts when making image ids

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Putting the image id under a cut.

Making it with typing quirks.

Making it with colored text.

Making the text small.

Making it with fancy letters or symbols.

Just making it hard to read in general.

Making it too long.

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

Overthinking is a good (horrible please get me out of here) supplement

I don’t

Mostly just ship of Theseus, but once in a couple of years I experience a personality shift like Gallifreyan regeneration. I don’t think the latter is a universal or even very common experience tho.

things i wonder about singlets constantly:

how do you make important decisions without having multiple conflicting perspectives to argue their points convincingly

how can you possibly have one general aesthetic sensibility. does this make choosing furniture easier

how do you conceptualize changing over time if it's not by your old self withering away and you, a new guy, showing up to step into the husk and being like huh well guess they left me with Some Shit To Handle

doesn't it get lonely in your head :(

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

And again I also want to stress that I understand the specific form of oppression that is comparing minority humans to animals and I’m trying to be sensitive around that. The systems of oppression and mindsets can be similar but that doesn’t mean the groups are, I marginalised humans aren’t any closer to animals than any other group of human.

Disagreed.

Minority humans who are not children and do not have specific disabilities also get compared to children (literally instrumental in colonization, as well as many other examples) and humans who have those disabilities. Making huge points of how They Aren’t Those is still bigoted.

To care at all about the idea of a group being or not being closer to another marginalized group is in itself bigoted, I think.

& thank you!

I think that the animal right's movement could benefit from teaming up with the children's rights movement. The movements are similar for a few reasons:

Both children and animals have a lower legal status as adult humans and are sometimes considered property

Both groups have limitations that make them dependent on adult humans

The abilities and intelligence of both groups are often undermined

Their boundaries and wants can be ignored

Both children and animals are subjected to legal violence under the form of "discipline" that isn't acceptable for adult humans

The bodily autonomy of both groups is often denied and choices about them is often made for the benefit of their guardians and not themselves

They are sometimes seen as things to acquire for the entertainment of adult humans. "So when are you two going to have kids? You have to have some, they're so cute!" "I got you a puppy as a present! Look how cute they are!"

Their civil rights often depend on the votes and organisation of adult humans

Comparing other civil rights movements (lgbt rights, women's rights, racial equality) to this civil rights movement is often seen as offensive. Similarly, comparisons to animals or children have often been used to undermine these other groups and deny them basic rights.

Both groups have a different brain structure then adult humans, and thus different needs and behaviours.

So since animal rights activists and children's rights activists are often adult humans speaking on someone else's behalf, it would be helpful for us to work together and understand how to do that respectfully.

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

I am not radqueer, but you could as well say I am. I am also cis severely disabled. I welcome discussion and also you may look through the related tags on my blog like transid and para, and transability specifically since looks like that's what interests you the most.

Any transidentity is one's internal sense of self differing from perceived in some form characteristics. It is the same with gender and it is the same with everything. Being cisdisabled is not "actually being disabled", and also assuming that no one who is transabled could have those disabilities materially, either unrelated or by transition, is very ableist. Being diagnosed also does not give you more validity than that of undiagnosed disabled beings.

Trans-Abled?

🫧 Fish and Friends, I have some questions. 🐠 I have seen a lot of stuff regarding "Rad Queers" and frankly, I'm not sure I understand it. I'm totally open to discussing it with those that are apart of that community. I am a diagnosed person who does actually have neurodivergencies(?) and disorders. To anyone who is "Rad Queer / RQ" please hmu so we can talk. Would love to hear about your perspective. 🪼 See you all on the fish side! 🦈

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

You could reblog it from people who’ve reblogged it from you? I have, I just tried searching it by tag but couldn’t, but it shouldn’t have vanished, I’ll try finding it manually now

the real question is, do i bring back the filthpunk post yet or was that got us report spammed lmao

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

I consider “midsized”/“medium” etc bad labels for non-fat people because it’s really not where the middle of the spectrum of human body size actually lies.

Otherwise agree.

But.

What's up with labeling people "skinny" against their will? "Midsized" is such a good label, and when xou googlest "skinny", xou gettest people that aren't just "non-fat". Most of non-fat people don't have that body type, and xou bettest it eats a lot of them alive.

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

A a a a a a a a a a a a a q_______q /posi

Thank you so so so so much!! That means so much! And I also hope every good thing ever will happen to you ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

(I'm on Android and don't have the flaming heart emoji here, I keep it pinned on my clipboard but it looks like a heart emoji and a fire emoji separately, I don't know if it'll convert after I post)

I'm so so happy that my post made you happy!!!

I never really get a chance to say this but i think you're very cool and actually a LOT of your posts make me very happy :)) thank you so much for making them!! i hope every good thing ever will happen to you

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

My post was not about actual cis lesbian / trans man couples. My post was specifically about the point in the first quote marks in it. About cis lesbians saying whom they would date, not whom they are actually dating. No one asked trans men anything in this equation.

There are indeed afab trans people (not just men) who are fine being buddies with transphobes as long as those transphobes don't misgender them face to face at the expense of amab trans people (not just women), including those who actively participate in the transphobia (I have also personally seen several terf trans women, but they are certainly in a different position in the movement). I had been thinking about this issue in a recent while in particular, and I'd still like to work with it more before I talk about it at length. But yes, this is where afab trans people have an advantage and where those that are doing it are actively betraying all trans people but especially those who were amab.

Wrt the graphic I want to first talk about the way it is set up. It asks nonbinary people but not about nonbinary people, and groups us with mspec binary people, which is kind of yikes, and also it groups cis and trans respondents together with no way of knowing the results separately, and judging from mixed groups is also meaningful but I imagine separated they'd be quite different. On the topic of "asking about nonbinary people" I want to also say that many cis people would probably have different answers for nonbinary people of different agab because transphobia and bioessentialism, yeah.

Edit: also, this could skew the result of the last graph by the fact of putting mono-oriented nonbinary people together with mspecs. I do think the vast majority of the results are mspecs though.

It's continually strange to me that transphobes preference wrt potentially dating trans people "going counter to their own identity" is seen as anything other than them seeing us all as our assigned genders.

In two of the graphs, the "only men or women" part actually goes fully in line with the identity of respondents: out of the straight women and gay men who were willing to date trans people of only one gender, all were only willing to date trans men. A tiny minority of straight women was willing to date both trans men and women, and quite a lot more, but less than those out of the same group who were willing to date only trans men, of gay men, were willing to date both trans men and women. I am not sure what to assume here.

Out of the straight male respondents, almost an equal amount was willing to date either only trans women or only trans men, but the former — slightly more. I assume the latter is mostly also the case of seeing trans people as their agab.

Out of the lesbian respondents, specifically 9% said they would only date trans women, 10.8% — that they would only date trans men, and 10% — that they would date both trans women and men. Again, I don't know what to say about those that are willing to date both (as well as in the other mono-oriented graphs); lesbians actually have the highest acceptance of trans people of their preferred gender (gay men have that at 8.2%); but also the highest, higher than the former, "will only date those whose *agab* was my preferred gender".

Now in the *last* graph, mspec and nonbinary respondents, there is a clear and gigantic bias towards excluding trans women. This is supposedly a group that does not have a gender preference. 44.4% were indeed willing to date all trans people, and 48.3% were not willing to date any trans people, but 14.7% were willing to date exclusively trans men, and 2.6% — exclusively trans women. I do want to note though that some of this might be overall bioessentialism rather than exclusively transmisogyny, but of course I am not going to claim anything and transmisogyny is there in any case. But, yeah, it might potentially not be the only thing there is.

For the fullness of the resulting functional description: the persentage of straight men who are not willing to date any trans people was 96.7%, of straight women — 98.2%, of gay men — 88.5%, of lesbian women — 71.2%.

Again, though, my original post was specifically about a claim that more cis lesbians willing to date exclusively trans men than exclusively trans women means those cis lesbians are accepting of trans men.

Imagine positioning "more cis lesbians are willing to date exclusively trans men than exclusively trans women" as "those cis lesbians are accepting of trans men" rather than "those cis lesbians are misgendering all trans people"

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

I did not take the op as being abled. I do not take anyone as being abled. I highly doubt abled people exist. “You know better than that” is a fucking disgusting phrase, you don’t fucking get to tell me what I know. What I do know better, however, is than to expect disabled people to not be ableist. That’s like the majority of my original blogging. I have faced so much ableism from other disabled people. I have perpetuated ableism while being a disabled person. I have seen other disabled people perpetuate ableism against other disabled people. Why the fuck is there a dichotomy between “taking the op as abled” and “infighting”.

But yeah, sure, next time an autistic person who fits into the social standards better than me tells me that since they are also autistic me not being able to do those things just means I’m an asshole (and yes, that has happened to me, and many other instances of intra disabled ableism) I’ll wipe the floor with myself before them, lest I do infighting among disabled people.

I am also fucking sick of people getting offended at me misinterpreting them or them thinking I misinterpreted them, with all these “you should have known I wouldn’t say that” — no, I fucking learned the hard way that it’s better to have a fight and perhaps clear something up than to give the benefit of doubt til the last possible idk what and end up disappointed to the point of total heartbreak. I’ve been sick of it before the last three times it happened. Also a nice “I have the right to get disappointed in you, you don’t have the right to get disappointed in me” — again, to all the people who said/did that kind of thing.

And the only part in their post that talks about ableism is when they mention that blindness is mostly a social disability. The entirety of the rest of their post is “you never know when some disability might end up useful for the survival of life, also nature is awesome and humans don’t know what they need”

I do see now how I seem to actually have misinterpreted the “we” and “everyone around us” part, but I still stand on everything else I said.

eugenics is a big scary word and yet people that would claim to be left-leaning can very easily be convinced to be pro-eugenics if you just never use the word. like oh you think "dumb people" shouldnt be allowed to reproduce? you think "dumb people" shouldnt be allowed to have children? its kinda scary

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

Fuck, I’m sorry, first I had to wait till I’m unshadowbanned but then I wrote a part and kept it in the drafts; I’ve been meaning to get to it in some nearest days, I guess now might be a time. (I’m the anon)

Somehow until this post I didn’t actually realize the full… idk, importance? Not exactly the right word. Of the ashen quadrant. Now realizing that ohmygod. A kismesis that only works when it is auspisticized. Or maybe not necessarily but still it’s a completely different thing when the hatemates are on their own and when there’s the mediator present, them being as integral part of the relationship as the hatemates themselves. Aaaaaaaa.

……so yeah, I guess, it ends up that I don’t actually technically ship ssdd in all quadrants, because I do not (as of now) have a headcanon where somebody is auspisticizing between them.

The two paragraphs above were written in that first go, I have also since played Hiveswap and Friendsim and so did my sister and we’ve been talking about Konyyl and Azdaja and ended up with a conclusion: they aren’t red or pale or black, they are ashen without an auspistice.

That said, yeah, Callie auspisticizing between Dirk and Caliborn fucks. It fucks so hard. As does Dirk and Roxy auspisticizing between the cherubs!!

Not sure how to transition to the cut, just felt it’d be better to put a cut

I feel now like I’ve ended up with less than I’ve planned, I’m sorry; I also had plans of an addition on one of your Caliborn posts, although feel free to tell me if I’m Not Helping right now

In any case, I’m not much at personal talk at least when I’m not already close with the person, but whenever you by any chance want to talk to me about Homestuck, disability issues, and anarchism (and another common point is Doctor Who but I know you’re not actively in it) please feel free (oh and also PMMM, I’m so sorry I managed to forget you’re into PMMM-)

Sorry for being obnoxious but do you mean by “all quadrants”: “red + black”, “red + black + pale”, or “red + black + pale + ashen”?

And if it’s actually all quadrants where’s the auspisticism between uucest? Also while writing this I came to actually being interested to hear it for the sake of the story, so however you feel about this ask you may use it as an opportunity to rant about uucest :D And if there’s no auspisticism tbh help I now want to hear your hcs/thoughts about uucest. I don’t even ship uucest. Sorry this derailed please feel free to rant about uucest

(for an example of a literally quadrants ship, it’s how I ship slickdroog — a mix of pale, black and red + Droog auspisticisng between snowslick by fucking them both although with uucest if there is auspisticism it’s probably someone else between them not one of them between the other and someone else)

yes i do ship uUcest in the ashen quadrant as well! it actually used to be a really popular interpretation of the ship back in Ye Olden Days (like, pre-2015, which is when i jumped on board).

(actually, funny story about that. the "quartermaster of the s.s. cherry limeade" in my bio is a direct callback to those days. i was one of the original uUcest shippers in 2012, back when it was called cherry limeade, and when i mean original, i literally mean i was one of the very first. there were a few of us scattered around various sites, and at some point, a dear friend named vivi, who has sadly since then disappeared off the internet entirely, gathered a bunch of us into an IRC room and we spent several hours fucking around roleplaying homestuck characters, including me having my first uUcest roleplay. i never actually figured out who my caliborn was in that chat!

after that, a bunch of us started posting in the cherry limeade tag, which until then had mostly been photos of drinks, and vivi was christened the "captain of the s.s. cherry limeade;" shortly after, i claimed my title of quartermaster, and it was the title of my blog until fandom got weird and gross and i started getting death threats lmao.)

ANYWAY. *sits back in my chair and removes the pipe from my lips* enough about grandpa's childhood

where this all started; yeah, it used to be incredibly common to see uUcest shipped ashen with dirk or roxy (or both!) as the mediator. callieroxy and dirkuu are actually both major squicks of mine except in this context; i really love ashen cal/dirk/callie and callie/roxy/cal. brings me back to the good ol' days of the alpha kids desperately trying to play relationship counselor to two bodysharing aliens who are simultaneously codependent and homicidal.

your last paragraph made me think, though: i think dirkuu with callie auspisticising between dirk and caliborn would fuck pretty hard. i like the idea of dirk&cal only working if calliope's around to keep her brother in check (and maybe letting him work out his more violent urges that a human couldn't handle).

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

You can be disabled without having any specific kind of disability.

You can be disabled without having chronic pain. You can be disabled without having a limb difference. You can be disabled without having a learning disability. You can be disabled without having a sensory disability. Etc etc etc.

How is saying "disability" excluding any specific kind of disability.

If you want to specify that yes you are including that specific kind, say "including"! "Disability, including chronic illness"! "Disability or chronic illness" literally excludes chronic illness from disability.

There are people with many other kinds of what others consider disability for themselves who don't consider themselves disabled! There are Deaf people who don't consider themselves disabled, there are autistic people who don't consider themselves disabled, there are people with chronic pain who don't consider themselves disabled. I'm willing to bet there are people with all kinds of what others consider disability for themselves who don't consider themselves disabled.

Stop saying “disabled or chronically ill” and all other variations of it.

Chronic illnesses are disabilities.

What are you even defining disability as if you are not including chronic illness.

Stop.

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

I honestly don’t remember, but I remember waiting and thinking that it’s a lot of time. Certainly way more than a couple of days.

I’ve gotten out of shadowban twice, but I see folx moving accs because of a shadowban, stay in shadowban for months and months.

Perhaps it has changed, but try writing to the tumblr technical support, all you need to say is how you can’t reply and send asks, your posts don’t show up in tags and other users don’t see notifications from you, and in some while it will be lifted with a email about a glitch. That while can be longer than any of us would like, but eventually it should come.

Here’s an explanation of what shadowban actually is: https://www.tumblr.com/problemsleuth/713151728678289408

[dyspunktional-leviathan]

Your term is good! What I meant was that "traumaphilia" should be an umbrella term, with your term and a similar term for physical injuries under that umbrella.

Who the fuck declared that “traumaphilia” must be defined as attraction to specifically physical trauma? Drag them to me so I could give them physical trauma.

In seriousness. Attraction to specifically physical trauma must be defined with the word that is specifically about physical trauma.