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alatismeni-theitsa · 1 year ago

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Wait as an Athenian I wanna know what stereotypes other areas towns and cities have of us! I already know what some arw gonna be (πρωτευουσιανοι and all that) but I'm curious if certain areas anything specific for us!

ahahahha okaay! Let the salt commence! These are stereotypes (and we all know what that means) so please, Athenians I speak with, don't feast on my carcass, please and thank you xD I obviously know dozens and dozens of Athenians and have family there, so I am drawing from the experience of many similar occasions and what other non-Athenians have told me. I will speak about the urban center.

Let me start with the positives because they are not too many 😂😂😂😂😂 (okay there are many, I just feel I don't need to explain them that much!)

Obviously Athens is full of creative and strong people, people who have decided to get by in life no matter what, and I admire them for that quality. Fast-paced environments and chaos is not as big a challenge to them. I mentioned that the North is very resilient as well. The truth is we are all resilient, just in different ways, depending on our environment and I love seeing these differences.

Athens has all sorts of people so you can find all the good qualities there. Athens can be hard to withstand for many different reasons - especially if you struggle with a physical and/or mental illness, and/or poverty - but Athenians rise through the hardships. Whatever new thing comes from Exoteriko, they grab it by the horns and bend it to Greek standards.

Ok, onto the bad ones! The grace period is over 😈

Athenians are out of touch the way US is out of touch with the rest of the world. Like, there's just "them and the countryside (Επαρχία)" although the Επαρχία literally includes Thessaloniki with 1 mil people. They also treat Thessaloniki, one of the major Balkan urban centers, as if it's a primitive village that one doesn't even need to visit just because it's not as big as Athens. The whole country goes to Athens once in their life but Athenians don't feel like they have to go somewhere. Some are... I'd say... shocked when they find innovation and excellence up here, let's stay at that :P

Two Athenians I've spoken with so far didn't know what a Poliouchos is... I mean Athens has a Poliouchos as well but they might not notice that other towns have a Saint just like they do and each town has its own Saint?

Sometimes they take this sad face "oh... you don't have THAT in the countryside, don't you?" and it feels offensive if we have it and offensive if we don't xD Or "oh! You have that, too, like in Athens?" Like..... yes dude, we also have running water and cars, thank you very much. Sometimes they might ask you "how did you expect me to know??" Like bruuuh it's your freaking country, and you should be aware of things outside of Athens!

Or they assume that because there's a certain microclimate in Athens, that this climate is on the whole of Greece. And they tell tourists weather stuff about the whole country regarding temperatures and snow that only apply to Athens and a few nearby areas.

Some 25+ year-old Athenians think that being an Athenian gives you status in the eyes of other Greek areas - no it absolutely doesn't 😂 - and they might be ashamed if they show some culture/mannerisms/words from their village in front of other Athenians. Or if a non-Athenian does something that's not usual in Athens, they go "ooh you guys do THAT over there!" in a manner of a white American lady says "how adorable!" 😂😂

Or they insist on carrying themselves with a certain attitude of "hello my humble peasant subjects" when they return to their birthplace or visit other areas for tourism, as though they feel that if they don't do it they will shame THE PROTEOUSA.

Sometimes it shows in series and movies - that are obviously produced in Athens - of an Athenian going somewhere "away from civilization" to clear their soul or find a person opposite to them, and this special exotic place is Sparti or Sifnos or whatever random place the other half of Greece lives in.

Although there's some exaggeration in the previous idea, sometimes it is true that you can tell whether someone is an Athenian from how uptight they are because they are used to a constantly moving and busy environment.

That being said, Athens is not THAT busy compared to most capitals and Important places around the world. Some Athenian professionals are so dedicated and such high achievers that perhaps they think they live in NY, Hong Kong, or Brussels. Chiiiill my guys, chill.

Actual discussion I had with a friend: Me: You know these Athenians came and they were like... like.. Him: Like Athenians, you mean? Me: YES, THANK YOU, YOU GET IT

And let me sneak in the fact that "σε λέω" is more grammatically correct than "σου λέω" because "σε" was evolved first from the ancient form and "σου" came second✨

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Non-Athenians do you agree or disagree with these stereotypes? Have something to add?

Sorry for writing so much but Athens has a large population and half the country observes it xD Of course I wrote many negative things about my own area as well. As in this whole Stereotype Series we are doing, people from other areas feel free to continue roasts for Athens, or for other areas!

#stereotypes #answered #athens #athenians #hashtag protevousianoi #half the country is Athens so Athenians are bound to read this #pls have mercy on me xD #and feel free to roast other areas other in my tag Stereotypes or in my asks

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crow-the-hunter-vanguard · 5 days ago

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Crow!!!! Did you see @baede-6 is back!?

Double trouble is now reunited!!!! Let the chaos commence 😈

Good to have them back

#ask crow and glint

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wobblewobble822 · 11 days ago

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You fucking did it again 😍😩

Jesus Christ—if this is just a peek, I cannot wait for the SMUT & chaos to commence! 😏😈

And yes Yoongi! Finally reader and Yoongi be upfront about the rumors!

Bring on the SMUT

LETS GGOOOOO!!

I love your freaking insanely genius mind K! 💕🥹

@ktownshizzle 💕🫶

Love & Lullabies | Part 4.5

✎ ˎˊ˗ Pairing: Min Yoongi x female Reader

✎ ˎˊ˗ Summary: What begins as a simple favor for your best friend Namjoon soon pulls you into the rhythms of Yoongi’s life—afternoons spent caring for his son, late nights filled with candid conversations, and a connection neither of you thought you needed. You’re just fresh out of a long-term relationship with an ex who didn’t want a family with you, so did you really just stumble into a life you’ve always dreamed of? (Thank god Namjoon isn’t the only one who’s clumsy.)

✎ ˎˊ˗ Alternatively: It’s 2025 and BTS is prepping for their comeback. All members seem to have gained muscle weight from their time at camp. But Min Yoongi has gained a different kind of weight—an 8-pound baby and a fuck-load of responsibility. (Thank god you’re there to help him.)

✎ ˎˊ˗ Genre: Fluff, Angst, Smut, idol!au, Acquaintances to Lovers, Reader is Namjoon’s bestie

✎ ˎˊ˗ Warnings: Yoongi is a DILF (!!!) That’s it.

✎ ˎˊ˗ Chapter warnings: porn with some plot kinda, this yoongi is very horny and is a very methodical masturbator (?) in the way he set the mood for himself (could be canon, amirite), let’s fix that boner you left him with, and let’s soothe your weary minds from that Dispatch article, POV switch after the article headline, idk if you know that one video of yoongi in d-day during the piano break in life goes on he does this thing with his tongue… it’s written in here somewhere

✎ ˎˊ˗ Word count: 1.5k

✎ ˎˊ˗ Posting date: December 15, 2024

✎ ˎˊ˗ A/N: Surprise! I kid you not, this was written within a span of like 8 hours? So if it sucks, that’s probably why, lol. Lucky for y’all I am too impatient to wait for notes milestones before I upload the next part, so here you go. 🎁 Also, @glossdebut, you know what you did. Enjoy, my lovelies~ 💕

Part One | Part Two | Part Three | Part Four | Masterlist

“Fuck me…” Yoongi sighs, leaning further back into the computer chair. He runs both hands through his hair as the preliminary pinpricks of pleasure makes his cock spring to life under his sweatpants.

His phone is now propped on his half-empty coffee mug, of which the screen—maxed out in its brightness settings—is projecting the photo you sent through its 2x dynamic galaxy amoled display—of which his dick would personally like to thank his Samsung sponsors.

He is so horny he might just die if he doesn’t get off in the next five minutes.

It’s your fault. Of course, it is.

God you’re so fucking sexy, do you even know that? Do you even realize what you do to him? He is literally about to masturbate in his multi-million won worth studio to the pitiful pixels you have afforded him with.

He stands up, curses you under his breath as he pulls his pants down to pool around his ankles. He drops to his chair, about to slip a clammy hand inside his boxers when he decides to adjust the view juuuust a little, zooming the photo closer…closer… and that’s it.

Just the view he needs. (Sue him for having astigmatism.)

He grabs the aircon remote and adjusts the temp to a balmy 24 ‘cause it’d be hella annoying if he can’t get hard because his studio is an igloo.

Some velvety track with soft percussions filter out from his speakers.

A pump of lube from his hidden drawer, wet wipes at the ready for the inevitable clean up, and he’s off to the fuckin’ races.

His fist wraps the base of his cock, coating his entire shaft with the gel. It's cold, but it immediately warms up to his body temperature as his palm slides up and down his semi.

Greedy eyes rake your body on his phone screen. Your tits. They’re a vision. He can see just the ghost of your nipples, peaking in the slightest way against your silky top and suddenly his mouth is dry. What would they look like if they’re not hiding from him? For sure they’re puffy. Pretty jet-puffed marshmallows that he’s gonna be putting in his mouth and sucking until you’re falling apart and creaming with just that. He smirks. Yeah, he could do that.

He tugs at his cock faster, licking his bottom lip as he imagines the texture of your pebbled nipples against his tongue. He shivers, increasing the pace of his ministrations, cock now fully hard.

Back to the photo.

Huh. You knew what you were doing—squeezing your breast with your hand. The way the mound of flesh is about to spill over, and your areola is just kissing the edge of the fabric is actually killing him. It’s diabolical. Pure torture.

Had you been here, he’s scooping out that breast, the one you’re holding out to him, so it’s hanging generously from your top, wobbling as he bounces you on his fat dick.

He feels his eyes crossing, caught in the spell of the hypnotic movements playing out in his mind. He moves his hand faster, cock throbbing and aching for release.

But he’s not there yet.

Closing his eyes, Yoongi lets himself sink back into the memory, rewinding the moments from just hours ago. The sensation of your weight against him is the first thing he recalls—the way your ass fits so perfectly in his lap, warm and soft, like you were made to be there. The way your body had melted into his touch, so pliant, so eager, grinding slightly like you were inviting him to ruin you, and he was more than willing to oblige.

Your lips—he can still taste them if he focuses hard enough—sweet, intoxicating, like the lingering memory of his favorite whisky. And your neck, the way it arched so perfectly for him, leaving him no choice but to press his mouth against it, the faint hint of your skin still ghosting on his lips even now.

If he concentrates, he can almost smell you again, that sweet, delicate perfume that drove him insane. It’s like you’ve imprinted yourself on him. Or maybe it’s the faint traces of your scent that linger on his hoodie, the one you pressed yourself into while straddling him and he could feel the perfect ass against his crotch.

The thought is enough to send his pulse ticking faster, his head leaning back against the chair as a low, frustrated groan escapes him. He needs you. Fervently. Urgently. Needs you like he has never needed another person ever.

Jaw slack, tongue dangling from the corner of his mouth, he imagines licking your nipples from side to side and his mouth stretches into a smile. He can almost hear you moan oh yoongi and wow what an ego boost to have you unraveling for him when in reality it’s he who is actually unraveling in his own damn hands. His cock is getting heavier, balls tighter at his impending demise. He tugs and tugs, collecting some of the lube that gathered on the base and pushing it back towards his angry tip, concentrating his movements there.

You’re not in the room but you might as well be with the way your name keeps tumbling from his lips. He is whining like a little bitch in heat, but he doesn’t give a shit. He hasn’t had a satisfying jerk-off like this in a while. He can’t even remember sex being this good. Nothing remotely like the way this fog of lust has him ascending to another plane of existence right now, because you’re so fucking sexy and so good to him and he likes you so damn much and suddenly he’s coming, warm spurts of cum oozes from his throbbing cock decorating his fingers like the rings he used to wear to the knuckle, and fuck he’s still going, there’s so much and god dammit his boxers are soaked but it feels phenomenal.

Chest heaving as if he ran a marathon, he stares at his ceiling, waiting for his heart rate to slow down.

Not long after, he laughs at his stupidity, pulling a wipe from the packet and proceeds to clean up. He sobers up from his horny thoughts, but not by a whole lot. Not when the photo that started it all is still bright and beautiful from his phone. Shit. He cannot wait to fuck you for real.

Little did he know, something was gonna fuck him up come morning.

AllKpop Scoop:

Confirmed: SUGA of BTS Dating Actress Lee Sung Kyung

Eagle-eyed fans are convinced the duo has been hiding their relationship in plain sight, pointing to their undeniable chemistry during a past Suchwita episode, where sparks were reportedly flying between the two.

The story was everywhere. News sites, entertainment shows, gossip columns, social media—each one milking it for all it was worth.

Darling of the press, K-drama royalty, multi-awarded thespian Lee Sung Kyung, had resurfaced from her mysterious hiatus, and of course, the headlines couldn’t resist pairing her name with “infamous idol Min Yoongi.” You roll your eyes so far back your head they almost didn’t come back.

The South Korean media was having an absolute field day.

And as much as it hurt to see it, your first instinct wasn’t to dwell on the sting of the rumors. It was to scan every word, every post, every thread, checking if Haneul had been dragged into the mess.

Thankfully, he hadn’t been. You’d be devastated if your little sarang had been implicated in any of these stories. You don’t know the first thing about how to protect the poor baby from these trolls, but you will be damned if you don’t try.

The photo that sparked the frenzy was everywhere—a shot of Sung Kyung leaving Yoongi’s Hannam apartment. That was it. No Yoongi, no Haneul, not even a hint of context. Never mind that the building housed countless tenants or that there was zero proof they were together. It was enough to send the internet spiraling into speculation.

You were scrolling through the comments under one of the reposts, your stomach churning at the sheer creativity of the assumptions being thrown around, when your screen suddenly switched to an incoming call.

Yoongi.

You didn’t hesitate, swiping to pick up almost immediately.

“Sarang,” he starts, his voice soft and familiar, like he already knows he needs to tread lightly. Bro’s really starting with the buttering up.

“Where’s Han?” Was your first question.

“My parents drove him up to Daegu this morning. It’s better if he’s there for now.”

You let out a heavy sigh, rubbing your temple as you sit back. “Just answer one question, Yoongi: is it true or not?”

“It’s a big fuckin’ lie,” he says without missing a beat, his voice steady and firm. “None of it is true.”

“So it’s all bullshit?”

“YES.” he replies emphatically.

The tension in your shoulders eases slightly, and you exhale, nodding to yourself. This is fine for now. “Okay.”

“Okay?” There’s a note of uncertainty in his voice, like he wasn’t expecting you to let it go so easily.

“Yes. Just get your ass here by 7 and not a minute later.” You say, firm.

A pause. Then, with the faintest hint of a chuckle, he replies, “Yes, ma’am.”

A/N: So???? I don't know what that first part was. It just took a life of its own. Anyway, as per ush, please let me know what you thought about the chapter. Feedback is always appreciated. Thank you so much for reading this, you lovely, beautiful human xo

See you in the next half! :)

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geminixevans-stan · 3 years ago

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Let’s get some mafia!Steve and Pippi action going!

So let’s say Steve and Pippi are finally married (yay!💍)

Fast forward 6 months and it’s time for the baby shower!!

I know what your thinking! It’s the reader’s baby shower I’m sorry your wrong sis! It is BELLA’s baby showerrrrr

Yessssssss Steve’s daughter done got herself knocked up by bf (or did she😈)

So to be nice Pippi decides to host the baby shower because Bella’s mother, Peggy is just too busy to help plan/host it 😒

Day of the baby shower comes!! Everything looks so cute https://pin.it/5piEBYO

While the baby shower is going on… guess who shows up!! DUN DUN DUNNNN PEGGY!

Well let’s just say Peggy and Steve exchange some not so not so nice words 👀

Alsoooooo you know how I mentioned that the bf may not be the baby daddy WELL BITCH GUESS WHO SHOWS UP?! The other potential baby daddy!!

Drama and chaos ensues! Because ya know

Pippi is just watching everything go down because ya know this ain’t her business lmao she is just trying to be nice and host a baby shower 🤣

And whatever else you want to happen!

We can throw in some angst and baby talk between Pippi and Steve

Lol this was evil! But let the shit show commence...

Words: 1.6k+

Warnings: 18+ Minors DNI, Explicit language

Liar Liar OTP

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If you told Steve that he would have become a father and a grandfather in the span of six months, he would have shot you straight between the eyes.

But here he was watching you fuss over the balloon arch, your swollen belly housing his sons as he follows your every move.

“You really don’t have to do this pippi, that’s what the coordinators are for,” he muses, watching you step back and preen in satisfaction

“Just want everything to be perfect,” you state, turning around slowly to peck at the tip of his nose.

He couldn’t help how cute you looked nitpicking at all the details of this event. It wasn’t even yours and you were being like this.

“But it’s not even your shower my love and where is the knocked up bambina anyway? She should be the one doing all this primping,” he mutters, placing his hands on both sides of your belly.

Men… they just didn’t understand the workings of a shower. Once Bella announced her pregnancy, Steve wasn’t shocked at the least. How could he be? Bella was known to be quite the promiscuous girl. Something she learned from her mother.

“You let her rest!”

“Fine… Fine. Why are you being so nice to her today pippi? Thought you hated her?” a smile creeping up his lips

“That’s where you’re wrong husband, she hates my guts. Besides, her mom isn’t here and I just thought I’d be nice?”

“Peggy is never here and I don’t expect her to be here now…”

You look up at the pouting man, knowing he was just acting bothered for show. This whole shower was paid for by him and he spared no expense for his grandchild.

If anything, he was more excited than Bella. To think she was going to be someone’s mom was hilarious.

The shower was under way and Bella came in with her entourage. If anything, they should have been making sure the party was going smoothly.

But what can you expect from a group of girls that only do work on their backs?

One thing that did change? They sure knew who to play with after the little tussle at your engagement party. They still didn’t speak but were more respectful.

You may be married to the king of Brooklyn but you didn’t mind getting your hands dirty again.

The large reception area began to be filled with an array of gifts and people, Steve scoffing at the people that Bella associated herself with.

You were put on sitting duty because of course you were carrying two people and Steve wasn’t having any type of stress on you.

He sat closely across from you stroking your cheek as the games went on. If the adoration he had for you before was bad, he was a sappy puppy looking you full and round with his heirs.

Bella, looking in her boyfriend’s eyes as he rubbed on her full belly. If you were to believe that Carter freaking Baizen was ready to be a father, you would have laughed in the pretty boy’s face.

Bella had a thing for assholes and he was no exception.

But then, there was a small commotion and Bella jumping up to hug an unfamiliar woman.

“Madre!” She exclaims wrapping her arms around the woman’s neck. Steve’s neck snapped to the woman, rolling his eyes and looking back at you

“So the strega (witch) decided to show up after all,” he smirked, watching the amused look on your face, “What pippi?”

You couldn’t contain your laughter as you got a glimpse of Peggy in the flesh, smiling at everyone, “Oh nothing daddy… You were definitely drunk that night,” you giggle, remembering what mama Rogers said.

“That Peggy… Gave me a beautiful granddaughter. But her face was hit with a sack full of meatballs”

Steve slapped his hand to his chest, doubling over, not paying attention to an oncoming person.

The woman’s voice was sultry, your eyes going up to her as she kept her eyes on Steve. She placed her hand on his shoulder and let’s just blame it on the hormones but you were ready to cut it off.

Steve looked back, shrugging her hand off, “Peggy…”

“Oh, Steve darling don’t be that way. It’s been so long since I’ve seen you. Come now let me look at you,” she coos, stepping back to get a good look.

The hand at the hem of your dress tightens, your mouth opening before you could think, “You’ve seen him before. That’s all you need,” giving a glare paired with a sweet smile.

Steve, knowing that tone, chuckles and backs up your reply, “My queen has spoken, Peggy and she doesn’t repeat herself.”

Peggy gives a curt smile changing her sight to you, “Well since I had him first it’s only right don’t you think?”

Oh… She was trying it.

But Steve let a cackle so loud, “Yeah if you count me being drunk and stupid! You caught me on the right night. Only thing you got first was a fertilized egg. Don’t act like you got my love too.”

The brunette’s mouth shut, turning away as she went back to her budding daughter.

Steve looked at you, amused at how much fire was inside of you, “A little feisty are we?”

“She’s lucky I’m fat and swollen. Otherwise, we would have picked a nice corner outside,” you mutter, shifting yourself in your seat.

The doors to the reception opened again and you could swear all the color in Bella’s face drained. You look over Steve’s shoulder watching a man, similar to Carter’s features, just a little older. More rugged and great hair.

Steve turned to see who you were looking at confused as to why his daughter looked stunned. His first instinct was to grab his gun but… your rules were no guns. He abided.

But as the strange man walked closer to Bella, it seemed as if he knew her. Not caring that Carter was at her side, he placed a chaste kiss to her cheek.

“Frank…. What are you doing here?!” She seethed watching as the man stepped back a little.

Steve stood up walking over to his alarmed daughter, ready to do any and everything to make sure she was safe.

“Is there a problem?”

Frank looked over to Steve, giving that award-winning smirk, “Not at all Mr. Rogers. Just had to show my face for the mother of my future child, is all.”

You couldn’t have heard that right. But your hearing was immaculate and the fact that Bella didn’t even protest spoke volumes.

Carter stood up, looking at Bella, “What does he mean his future child? Say! Who the hell are you?!” He shouts pressing a finger to Frank’s chest.

Frank looked at him unbothered, his chest shaking with laughter, “Looks like you weren’t the only one getting your dick wet Baizen,” he states, seeing the shock on Carter’s face, “Yeah that’s right, I know all about you. Limp dick isn’t it? According to Bella anyway…”

Steve watched the exchange, not even surprised at this point.

Peggy pushed through the crowd, “What’s the meaning of this? Who are you?” She pointed at Frank.

“Apparently our daughter has been playing different fields. So bambina is what he’s saying true?”

“Steven! How could you ask her that! You know it isn’t true.”

“Yeah well, I don’t put anything past her and…” his voice trails off.

Peggy’s hands shot to her hips, “and what Steven! Go on! Say it!”

He smirks ready to give her what she wanted, “It’s like deja vu all over again. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree now does it?”

The way the red crept up her neck, you would think she made a new shade of it, “How dare you?!” she shrieked, “I always knew you were her father!”

Steve snorted, “Yeah after failing paternity test number five.”

The crowd was stunned and you? Well, you weren’t going anywhere that fiasco. Sam had since sat by you while the two enjoyed the scene.

Bella stood up slowly looking between the whole group, “He’s lying!”

It was time for Frank to snort, “Yeah? I couldn’t be when you bought a plan B every time fucked him. Let’s be real here. Either it’s mine or somebody else’s. It’s definitely not babyface over there.”

The murmurs among the crowd filled the room and Bella sat down because she knew she was caught.

Peggy rounded back to Steve, “How could you let her be so loose?!” She spat.

He gave her a one-pointed look, “Call it genetics, strega.”

Peggy began yelling at Steve while he just fired off more insults. Carter and Frank began going back and forth and then the doors opened once more.

“Oh fuck me!” Bella screeched.

The stranger at the door, almost similar to Steve if he shaved his beard, pulled his glasses from his face, “I mean I would but looks like I already did my job.”

Steve looked over at the sweater-wearing prick, hanging his head down in laughter. This was just getting better and better.

Peggy asked the question that everyone wanted to know, “and just who are you?“

“Call me Ransom. I couldn’t leave my unborn child unappreciated.”

Steve threw his hands up, “And then there were three! Oh Bambina you really are your mother’s child.”

Bella sinks lower in her throne, groaning at the turn of events.

The scene before you was getting worse and worse. Sam dying of laughter next to you.

He looks over to you and says, “This is why we mind our business!”

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blackkatmagic · 4 years ago

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I see your Jango/Jon/Obi and raise to Jon/Jango/Obi/Quinlan 😈😈 let the chaos commence!

The universe does not deserve any of this, excuse you.

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ser-braime · 4 years ago

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So who feels like spamming the shit out of C/J accounts just to piss them off with this 😂😈

I should say not to but where’s the fun in that LOL

👀👀👀👀

A woman Jane, and her boy twin Carl are in a relationship. Jane doesn’t recall their first few times having sex with Carl and since Jane dissociates during traumatic events it can be argued the first few times she didn’t want to have sex and since incest is an abusive sexual act in and of itself, this makes perfect sense.) Carl convinces Jane to give up her lands and titles just so he can marry the queen and have his sister as his side piece. Jane gets pregnant three times by Carl but each time she isn’t allowed to even hold her children much less claim them bc Carl doesn’t want her to ‘mewl’ over her own children.

They get caught having sex and, with loathing after being screamed at by Carl for saving the boy, Jane pushes a young boy out of a window (and then is gaslit by Carl saying that’s not what he wanted.) that’s the only scene they have together. The next time they’re together is after Jane and an ugly but honorable, tall buff knight Brian (who happens to have the same color hair as Carl’s, blonde, which seems to be Janes type) go through a long life changing journey together where Jane worries that Carl won’t like that she cut her hair short bc she won’t look like him anymore. Jane proposes marriage and says she doesn’t care about people finding out, she just wants to be with Carl as a lover but he says no.

Carl has been cheating, with more than one person and he ONLY goes to Jane with sex when he wants something (to join the kingsguard, to kill a young girl, to kill their brother and to kill Loras) but when Jane finally stands up for herself and tells him no, Carl gets angry, insults her maiming, insults her body, and threatens to kill their other brother. Carl is utterly disgusted by her maiming, mocking it to her face, in his head, and to other people and is glad when others laugh at her bc that proves they don’t take her seriously. Carl also hits Jane. More than once. Jane even says the heartbreaking line that she turns his blows into kisses meaning that when Carl starts to hit her and get violent she has sex to get him to stop.

Carl also reminds Jane of a psychotic king who burns people alive, and Jane, more than once, tells Carl to stop abusing their son and at one point she decides to get their son away from Carl bc shes so worried for him. When Carl is arrested for incest he begs for help, not caring she’ll die if she comes back to save him, Jane says to put the plea for help into the fire, a moment of triumph for the abused Jane. (And funnily enough, the chapter right after Carl says he doesn’t care if Jane dies, Brian, who every chapter is FULL with longing and thoughts about Jane and Vice versa, vallently offers to die for her rather than hurt her, and the only reason he doesn’t is a 12 year old boys life is at stake). Jane even sadly laments she doesn’t have a husband, she just has a brother.

So let’s recap. Carl

Physically abuses Jane, his sister

Tries to manipulate her with sex

Gets angry when that doesn’t work

Doesn’t care rather or not she dies for him

Abuses and tortures their child and Jane stands up for him and stops it

Reminds Jane of the mad king

Threatens Janes brother with murder if she doesn’t do what he wants

Only has sex when he wants something

This yalls ship?

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