#larries have been angry with louis since babygate happened

[policemanofprincesspark]

I follow both zot3 and wellthatwasaletdown & zot3 has a much much better relationship with her anons. WTWAL lashes out at her anons every day, laughs at them, swears at them.

LMFAOOOOO! Imagine admitting that you follow that zot3! 💀 Aren’t you ashamed of yourself? What the hell is wrong with you that you follow a blog like that? Seriously! Everything.

Also, funny how that part “zot3 has a much better relationship with her anons” LMAOOO.

OF COURSE!!! It’s because most of her anons are sent by HERSELF!!! She sends asks to herself! Why is this so hard to understand? And what relationship with her anons? They only talk shit about Louis! And sometimes liam and niall. That blog is an updated account for Louis, Lottie, Daisy, Phoebe, Lewis Burton, Lucky and all Louis’ family and friends.

The fact that you have anons defending zot3, is absolutely concerning. 🤡

Contrary to popular belief, I don't think all of her asks are sent to her by herself. There's no way. So many harries hate Louis and the others, so of course they'll flock to her blog to release their pent-up frustrations. The reason nobody likes her posts is probably because many of them are actually larries, and they don't want her to know. I talked about this before; you often see the same asks from zot3's blog pop up on larrie blogs but worded differently to sound pro-larrie.

So... that's the only explanation I have for the lack of interaction on her posts.

[twopoppies]

I was a baby larrie in 2019 when Louis hadnt been seen with F in years and even I took months almost a year to look into bbg cause it IS indeed an absurd idea. I tried to rationalize things and had some guesses about what all the situation. But one day I thought "ok let's see why the smart people on tumblr are so certain of this". I read Amy's doc, Gabi's masterpost, threads and posts and a lot of info and at the end I was simply speechless. All the lose ends of my personal theories had clear explanations. So much of that material is gone now unfortunately, but that's just what was intended from the start. Honestly these days I wouldn't recommend for new fans to dig in bbg unless you wanna feel angry, sad, powerless and gaslighted on a whole new level. Lots of larries made peace with the fact that Louis chose to give his name and """"raise"""" F as his own even if not biological. There was a clear shift in 2020/2021 thanks to F's lousy "mom" so maybe he did that to protect the kid somehow. It's very weird the fascination fans have with Louis being a dad since that happens once a year and the rest of the time he pretty much gives completely childless man energy..

Yeah, I think that anyone who really reads those masterposts and thinks through what happened can't possibly come to any other conclusion.

But there's really no purpose at this point. Hopefully it will disappear one day. I hate the idea that both Louis and Freddie are stuck with this forever. But it does no one any good to still be loudly yelling about babygate these days.

[caralara]

Hi cara❤️ do you still stan both L and H? What happened and do you still think bbg will end soon?

Hi love! I do love them both, yeah (my HS1 Vinyl finally arrived yesterday!!), i just have this thing with Harry, because I identify so heavily with him, that I go through cycles of being angry with him (when in reality I’m angry with myself and just projecting) and it always passes. It has not a lot to do per se with what he does, but I guess his situation isn’t helping things right now.

On the other hand with Louis, I’m just steadily getting more and more enamoured with him and it’s getting out of hand!!!!! help

About babygate - There’s two options in my mind I’ve been thinking about a lot the last week since watching AOTV and one is that yes, it’s still all as I’ve thought the last year, and it makes a lot of sense that way, that all this is to convincingly end it without ruining his career or the other is that I misinterpreted the signals into meaning he wants to end it, while in reality he’s just finding a solid middle ground to keep it at (which would make me very sad and there’s a lot that’s speaking against that and it’s the much less likely option imo but yk, entertaining my doubts about my interpretation 🤪)

So as of now I’m still leaning towards it ending, eventually, and that Louis hasn’t been signalling about Freddie not being his son solely to keep us larries satisfied enough to keep forking over our money and validation

[buybtyonitunes]

Basically yea why the fandoms or specifically 'harries' and 'louies' are responding the way they are to both h and l and for example I know that Louis' team is shit but the whole thing on why Harry's music is being boycotted or smth idk I'm confused sorry if I'm confusing you

Oh ok lol I can do that

So basically a lot of the bitterness stems from the vast differences in louis and harry’s management and promotional teams. harry’s been working on this launch with the azoffs since at least 2013, irving azoff is one of the most powerful people in the entertainment/music industry and having that family and their connections on harry’s side is incredible. His new pr firm represents lots of important and famous clients and they’re also very good at what they do. 

meanwhile Louis is working with a former Syco agent and simon jones, 1d’s old publicist, who has let louis look like shit in the media for two years now, and it doesn’t really make a lot of sense to people that Harry has such an amazing manager and promotion and louis seems to be stuck with a lazy manager and a publicist thats in a coma for 362 days a year. 

I’ll start with the response to solo louis first. To make a long story short the initial reaction to him was embarrassment, shame and mockery. His career announcement was published by dan wootton so most people already were skeptical about it being legit, and just 7 days later out of nowhere louis was suddenly announced to be performing his debut single on the british xfactor, and of course the show+Simon association already had people turned off and going as far to say that they wouldn’t even watch. At this point there’s so much passive-aggressiveness and doubt and pessimism being displayed towards him and I think a lot of it stemmed from people not having any faith in him from the beginning and thinking he never wanted to go solo/never displayed any interest in it and insisting if he did he wouldn’t do it the way he was doing it, and so on. Of course the entire tune of everything changed once we found out WHY he was doing this (Jay) and most of the skepticism and analyzation was dropped. 

Solo harry: since the beginning of last year 2016 it was pushed by bigger blogs in the fandom that harry had absolutely no solo music plans. There’s screenshots and receipts out there from bigger blogs insisting he didn’t want it and he would never do it. of course they were completely, embarrassingly incorrect. There had been just as much skepticism and doubt surrounding him and his plans/promo (up until sott was released) as there was with louis. But there WAS a lot of hostility displayed towards solo!harry and i still cant figure out why. 

Harry’s team is not picked apart as much as louis’ is, that’s a fact. that’s not to say it isn’t because there is a small niche group of mostly louies that are vocal about what Harry’s team is doing but it goes either praised or ignored by bigger platforms that sway the fandom conversation. 

As for the way specific fans are responding to things, i think it goes back to the discrepancies between the teams and watching one (sometimes two) do better than the other. 

Louies (+ a percentage a louie-larries) are generally more negative and critical toward harry because harry’s team has him in mind and absolutely nobody else, he is their #1 priority and HAS been for several years. He had a very successful, carefully crafted launch that had the entire world buzzing with anticipation without having even heard anything from him. Meanwhile louis has a manager that tries to kill two birds with one stone by taking advantage of his fans and using Louis to promote his other clients, his PR rep couldn’t give less of a shit about him, and it looks like he’s sticking with the label that fucked him over for 6 years which is a little hard to comprehend.

i can’t really speak for harries/harrie-larries because i’m..not one but i think it goes without saying they’re focusing all of their attention on him right now because he’s the current center of the universe in all aspects and it makes sense. i don’t remember the reaction to solo Louis but for some harrie-larries it’s generally positive and supportive while het harries don’t know a lotus tomatoson so i won’t go there

Larries, bigger blogs, the ones who refuse to ‘pick a side’ are generally swaying toward harry, and treat him with gentler hands than they do with louis. they usually don’t call out jeff on his bullshit as often as they do with russell. harry isn’t side-eyed as much as louis is. Harry conversations are definitely treated a lot more carefully compared to Louis conversations which are mostly free-game all the time.

The boycotting thing yesterday was something that someone’s anon made up and it spread super quickly that there was an organized boycott happening against harry’s album in protest to Louis and babygate. it isn’t real and it was never a thing but bigger blogs (read: closet harries) took it as fact even when they were approached by people saying they had misread the anon, and went on really weird angry rants threatening people to buy harry’s album and saying if you didn’t stream sott you weren’t a fan and lots of really strange, manipulative stuff that really showed a lot of blogs’ true colors.

I HOPE THIS HELPED SORRY IF THIS IS HARD TO READ AND/OR LONGWINDED AND/OR MAKES NO SENSE come back if you have any other questions :-)

[twopoppies]

Hi gina don’t block me or angry with me pls i’m just curious! Why do you think F is not Louis’s son? Because Larry or because Briana and his baby bump was “weird”? I think F is similar to Louis, i remember him and i think split up with H. because he was always drunk at the disco with oli, calvin, B and Ashley and i think he lost his mind. So, i think was one night stand. I don’t think why this babygate during after 7 years he sound very weird to me, but i repeat no attack for you just my pov and i’m curious about what do you think, i followe you one week ago so idk your thoughts

Hi honey. Thank you for the follow. I’ve been talking about babygate since 2015 and I’m just tired. I honestly don’t have the energy to rehash everything I’ve said over the years. But here are some links you can look through

Babygate Masterposts

For Newbies (General)

Babygate (General) - *note: I don’t have a ton, but this is in chronological order

Deep Fake (why Freddie “looks like” Louis)

Beyond all the inconsistencies with the pregnancy and the raising of this child, you have to also take into consideration the environment it happened within. So getting some understanding of how the music industry, closeting, bearding, pr and marketing, media manipulation etc all work to create Harry’s image and Louis’ image (including the party boy image you mention) makes it much easier to understand how something like this could happen and is still happening. BTW, he wasn’t “always drunk” with his friends, B and Ashley… they were out twice IIRC. The second time appeared to happen because no one noticed them the first time, so they created an orchestrated outing to call attention to themselves.

And while we’re at it, here are some tags for Harry and Louis interactions in 2014, 2015, and MITAM promo. Personally, I don’t see anything that indicates they broke up, and especially nothing that indicates Louis got some random girl pregnant. Do you really think H would be like, oh no biggie and just take him back? I really don’t.

And just for fun, 2014 and 2015 Larry receipts (the period in which they would have had to be having trouble and would break up)

If you still think Freddie is his son, that’s fine. I’m not here to change anyone’s mind. But I don’t believe he is, so free free to unfollow me if that makes you uncomfortable. 💗