#kuroshitsuji chapter 184

[darkspellmaster]

Master Post for A Phantomhive in Night Raven College or one Hell of a Twisted Tale

So If you're looking for the story, Here is the master post with all the Chapters broken up in to groups. I hope this helps, and also if you want to skip over say the Long Halloween, you can.

Main Arcs are linked, All Vignettes are in-between Chapters.

Summary:

Ciel Phantomhive, the Queen's Watchdog, has seen some serious situations in his short life, and always had control over them, but he never once believed he would find himself in a world where all his skills and charms would be useless to him. Now, tossed through a gateway to a Twisted world where magic abounds, can the young Earl Phantomhive manage to survive going to Night Raven College, and unravel the mystery of why he was set there, and how to get back home.

A, mostly, Cannon Compliant, crossover of Black Butler/Kuroshitsuji and Twisted Wonderland.

Chapters (Only Beginning and Endings)

Welcome to the Villain's World Ciel

Chapter 1 / Chapter 6

The Rose Red Tyrant

Chapter 8 / Chapter 24

The Usurper of the Wilds

Chapter 25 / Chapter 46

The Phantom Bride

Chapter 47 / Chapter 57

Halloween is Coming

Chapter 58 / Chapter 61

Halloween: Terror is Trending

Chapter 65 / Chapter 130

Halloween: Spectral Soirée

Chapter 131 / Chapter 156

Merchant of the Depths

Chapter 157 / ?????

Chapter 165:Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, A Deal with a Devil

Chapter 166: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Splashing Encounter

Chapter 167: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Scheming

Chapter 168: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Water-logged Misfortune

Chapter 169: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Shocking

Chapter 170: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Marred

Chapter 171: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Advantageous

Chapter 172: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Brainstorming

Chapter 173: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Dastardly Heist.

Chapter 174: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Gone Fishing

Chapter 175: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Jousting with a Kraken

Chapter 176: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Lonely Pot

Chapter 177: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Packing and Unpacking

Chapter 178: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Late Night Conversations

Chapter 179: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Interventions

Chapter 180: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Enter Dream World

Chapter 181: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, First Time Riding

Chapter 182: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, It’s a Small World

Chapter 183: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Everything Goes Up And Down

Chapter 184: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Learning to Steer

Chapter 185: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Screamin’ in Space.

Chapter 186: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Traversing the High Seas

Chapter 187: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Tally Ho

Chapter 188: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Sunset Screaming

Latest Chapter

Chapter 189: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Goalie

Chapter 190: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Shooting for a Picture Perfect Dance

Chapter 191: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Game, Set, Whack that Mole

Chapter 192: Merchant of the Depths–That Butler, Spun out.

Have questions, just shoot me an ask. Happy to answer it.

Discord for those interested in it.

[flustered-earl]

Okay Bard's flashback is over!!!.

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I forgot what's the current timeline about

[seekers-who-are-lovers]

Bitch face, smug face, concerned face…

(Chapter 184: The Butler, Wandering)

[grelleswife]

“You fear death, as humans should. You must be the only one in this manor who does.”

Yana emphasizing Sebastian’s observation on Bard’s fear of mortality and then showing Ronald listening in (with how the characters are positioned, the chef’s literally “at death’s door,” if you will)? There’s no way in hell that’s a coincidence. I could see this going a couple of different ways:

1. Bard’s “fear of death” ends up saving him from the carnage that’s bound to ensue—he’s a survivor, after all—but perhaps he’s the only person at the sanatorium who escapes with his life, left behind once again after everyone around him perished.

2. He’s a skilled solider, but the chef’s luck was bound to run out eventually. In an ironic twist of fate, the Phantomhive servant who most wishes to evade death is the one eventually snatched away in its clutches. I’ve seen speculation that Ronald might find useful intel in his cinematic records, as well.

Regardless, though, I have the feeling we’re in for a bloodbath (or firestorm? 🤔).

[oya-oya-okay]

<<Kuroshitsuji|Black butler>> [COLORING]

[anewp0tat0]

chapter 184

this may end up being a long post. my bad.

so I want to talk about the topic that has circulated the current chapters and then get into the nice things because I'm really glad we have those again.

chapter 182 had a very one sided portrayal of Native Americans, an already marginalized group of people which have these stereotypes up to modern day. chapter 183 was much worse. I explained my specific issue and why exactly I thought yana's artistic portrayal was harmful in the past post under #kuroshitsuji 182

and now in chapter 183, we have bard showing us that in present day he understands how the world wasn't peachy and giving for everyone.

we have the panel going over the suffering of the natives, but under that are 3 much bigger and more emphasized panels. those panels are meant to be where the reader draws their attention and sympathy towards. not towards the natives, but to Bard's grief, and his family who were killed by natives.

It would be unnecisary story wise to put so much attention on the natives when the main focus is Bard sure(though may be they simple shouldn't have been in the arc to begin with)-

but this panel also demonstrated how yana did a poor job at showing equal levels of sympathy. on the right you see bard fighting a native who is struggling, fighting back, impaled his chest with a knife(wow??? bard never mentions that I guess). it's obviously a tough fight against a vicious foe, but bard prevails as the victor. it seems.

on the left panel, we see bard mourning over a dead soldier who also killed the natives, killed by natives. in this panel we see bard in grief, so we sympathise for the two soldiers. to any unaware reader, the picture painted from these two panels is "natives were savage and killed many soldiers, even almost killed bard, but bard managed to win". I hope it's understandable why this is not a good message to give to people when they don't know American history.

one good thing that this pair of panels does though is show that the cycle of violence and death is equal and endless, regardless of where it started(though, actually the colonists had guns. it was a gun and a knife fight. so maybe not that equal. anyway).

this is where i feel the imrpovement in narative is because it shows bard admitting that his siege of violence against the natives was in blind rage. mostly. at the very least, he acknowledges too that Ada is the better of the two of them for her heart of gold.

I want to clarify in case it wasn't clear before that my problem is not exactly with the events of the flashback because those things did happen, to both colonists and natives, and I am sad for that small child and loving wife. my concern is with people who do not know anything about Natives Americans and what they are facing now, because again- these people are not plot devices or mythical demons. so it's a shame that yana decided to use them as such.

look maybe I am overthinking about this, I just want to get comfortable with being able to criticize media while still very much enjoying it(the other parts I mean).

now then. I hope that I won't need to touch on this again on any more chapter reviews. I think I'm gonna go with my original plan of ignoring that mini arc. most people seem to be ignoring the servant arcs anyway 👁

so if I may continue on what I very much enjoyed:

sebastians face just reaked of "how long is this story". maybe I'm biased idc.

this is unrelated to the whole post but I find this a tad funny, cause if I'm not wrong that's the exact pose(or panel) used the last time he asked this question. the way I interpret this is that Sebastian, in his early human impersonation days, doesn't have enough motor skills to come up with new poses and actions in recycled situations so simple recycles the poses as well.

that or he's just trying to be cute.

this is a chilling statement. though, i gotta ask, genuinely because I think i missed this; does meyrin really not fear death? I'm asking because I remember that after she had failed to kill the earl, she ran away knowing that an assassin would come for her and she now had to try to survive on her own. this seems like the fear of death. especially since meyrin then later tried to assassinate the earl again with a knife, in the hope she still had a chance to return to the den. I'm wondering then what development took place, or if I'm forgetting a detail about meyrin.

also. Finny. look at

this

I'm happy for him. he was always a survivor but I think this point may be where he moves on. which would explain why he never mentioned his past at all.

I'm glad this chapter was able to remind me why I like this series after the bit of annoyance I had with the last one. but before I conclude I have to end with another popular sentiment going around with this chapter...

fear

yea I'm worried. about what ronald's doing. I'm not quite ready to let go of bard yet- I mean I can't imagine what type of toll it would take on the other servants, or the grand mission. and Ada- I mean, it wouldn't hurt the story too much, barely effect it even. though of course it's a shame that the good ones always seem to get it 😐.

but i gotta say i really am wondering what Ronald is doing there. what is so urgent that he has to roam around in the middle of the night(when he could be sleeping) stalking their conversation and checking his death list? in fact, we already saw him check his death list quite suspiciously when he was around Ada and Bard once before, so why do it again? is stuff gonna go down now??? who else could be roaming around the sanitorium about to cause something catastrophic. oh god where did lau go I can't even remember it's been like half a year.

unfortunetly I'm leading towards Ada dying. while some people point to Bard's fear of dying as a reason for him to be the one that perishes, I think the line "you're the "miracle healer"" might signify something upcoming, and it's undeniable that if something we're to put the patients of the sanitorium in danger Ada would stay behind to help. Ada has been established as the giver of life and Bard the taker. if bard came to the sanitorium, caused a mess that would lead to death, and Ada saved him only to meet a tragic end, well... uh. I don't even know.

sorry for the long post and ranting, hope everyone's had a good day!

[shinigami-mistress]

What is Ronald listening for?

We all that a reaper being present means someone (or many someones) will die, but why he specifically listening to Ada and Bard here?

[thedarkestcrow]

Black Butler Chapter 184

Baldo reflects on what the life and people at Phantomhive Manor mean to him.

The official English translation for the new chapter is released today, Jan 19th.

[royalshinigami]

Wow food 😋

Bard's flashback is over but what would happen to bard now?

Edit: I'm assuming if bard dies, then Ronald would come and reap his soul, of course. So he would take a look at bard's cinematic record and definitely Ronald would see undertaker in it. Knowing the fact that bard was there when our zombie earl is revealed, he must have seen undertaker. He might have seen UT even before the real earl's reveal because undertaker would collect those "guests" after their deaths. Ronald sees UT again and idk what next.....

This is just a prediction after all.

[thepteryx]

The list of movies and tv-shows (Multifandom Mashup 2017)

Movies:

1. 2:22 2. 47 Meters Down 3. 6 Below: Miracle on the Mountain 4. 6 Days 5. 9/11 6. A Ghost Story 7. Acts Of Vengeance 8. Alien: Covenant 9. American Assassin 10. American Made 11. American Satan 12. Annabelle: Creation 13. As You Are 14. Atomic Blonde 15. Baby Driver 16. Battle of the Sexes 17. Baywatch 18. Beauty and the Beast 19. Before I Fall 20. Berlin Syndrome 21. Blade Runner 2049 22. Brad's Status 23. Breathe 24. Bright 25. Call Me by Your Name 26. Cargo 27. Cars 3 28. CHIPS 29. Coco 30. Columbus 31. Crash Pad 32. Darkest Hour 33. Death Note 34. Death Wish (oops 2018) 35. Despicable Me 3 36. Detroit 37. Downsizing 38. Dunkirk 39. El bar 40. El guardián invisible 41. Everything, Everything 42. Fatal Countdown 43. Father Figures 44. Ferdinand 45. Fifty Shades Darker 46. First Kill 47. First They Killed My Father: A Daughter of Cambodia Remembers 48. Flatliners 49. Geostorm 50. Gerald's Game 51. Ghost in the Shell 52. Gifted 53. Girls Trip 54. Good Time 55. Goodbye Christopher Robin 56. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 57. Happy Death Day 58. Home Again 59. Hostiles 60. How to Talk to Girls at Parties 61. I Love You, Daddy 62. I, Tonya 63. iBoy 64. In Search of Fellini 65. Inconceivable 66. Ingrid Goes West 67. It 68. Jeepers Creepers 3 69. Jigsaw 70. John Wick: Chapter 2 71. Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle 72. Jungle 73. Just Getting Started 74. Justice League 75. Kidnap 76. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword 77. Kingsman: The Golden Circle 78. Kong: Skull Island 79. Kung Fu Yoga 80. Lady Bird 81. Landline 82. Last Flag Flying 83. Leatherface 84. Life 85. LIFE SENTENCE 86. Logan 87. Logan Lucky 88. Loving Vincent 89. Lucky 90. Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House 91. Marshall 92. Maze 93. Megan Leavey 94. Molly's Game 95. Mother! 96. Murder on the Orient Express 97. My Cousin Rachel 98. My Friend Dahmer 99. Okja 100. Once Upon a Time in Venice 101. Only the Brave 102. OtherLife 103. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales 104. Pitch Perfect 3 105. Power Rangers 106. Professor Marston & the Wonder Women 107. Rememory 108. Renegades 109. Replicas 110. Revolt 111. Rip Tide 112. Rough Night 113. Secret Superstar 114. Security 115. Shot Caller 116. Smurfs: The Lost Village 117. Snatched 118. Song to Song 119. Spider-Man: Homecoming 120. Split 121. Star Wars: The Last Jedi 122. Stronger 123. Suburbicon 124. Super Dark Times 125. T2 Trainspotting 126. Thank You for Your Service 127. THE ALIENIST 128. The Babysitter 129. The Big Sick 130. The Book of Henry 131. The Circle 132. The Current War 133. The Dancer 134. The Dark Tower 135. The Dinner 136. The Disaster Artist 137. The Discovery 138. The Fate of the Furious 139. The Florida Project 140. The Foreigner 141. The Glass Castle 142. The Great Wall 143. The Greatest Showman 144. The Hero 145. The Hitman's Bodyguard 146. The Hitman's Bodyguard 147. The House 148. The Incredible Jessica James 149. The Killing of a Sacred Deer 150. The LEGO Batman Movie 151. The LEGO Ninjago Movie 152. The Little Hours 153. The Man Who Invented Christmas 154. The Meyerowitz Stories (New and Selected) 155. The Mountain Between Us 156. The Mummy 157. The Only Living Boy in New York 158. The Party 159. The Ritual 160. The Shack 161. The Shape of Water 162. The Snowman 163. The Sound 164. The Space Between Us 165. The Square 166. The Stray 167. The Vault 168. The Wall 169. The Zookeeper's Wife 170. Thelma 171. Thor: Ragnarok 172. To the Bone 173. TOKYO GHOUL 174. Tôkyô gûru 175. Tom of Finland 176. Transformers: The Last Knight 177. Tulip Fever 178. Una Mujer Fantástica 179. Universe of Gods 180. Unlocked 181. Valerian 182. Viceroy's House 183. Walking Out 184. War for the Planet of the Apes 185. Wind River 186. Wolf Warrior 2 187. Wonder 188. Wonder Wheel 189. Wonder Woman 190. Wonderstruck 191. xXx: Return of Xander Cage

Tv-shows:

1. 100 2. 13 Reasons Why 3. A Series of Unfortunate Events 4. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5. American Gods 6. Criminal Minds | 크리미널 마인드 7. Crisis on Earth-X Crossover 8. Dark 9. Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency 10. Doctor Who 11. Future Man 12. Game of Thrones 13. Goblin 14. Gotham 15. House of Cards 16. Legion 17. Lucifer 18. Mr. Robot 19. Mr. Robot 20. Once Upon a Time 21. Orphan Black 22. Outlander 23. Preacher 24. Prison Break: Sequel 25. Reign 26. Riverdale 27. Sense8 28. Shadowhunters 29. Sherlock 30. Skam 31. Star Trek: Discovery 32. Stranger Things 33. Suits 34. Supergirl 35. Supernatural 36. Teen Wolf 37. The Big Bang Theory 38. The Defenders 39. The Flash 40. The Gifted 41. The Originals 42. The Punisher 43. The Vampire Diaries 44. The Walking Dead 45. Twin Peaks 46. Vikings 47. While You Were Sleeping(당신이 잠든 사이에) 48. Young Sheldon

Anime:

1. Kuroshitsuji Book of the Atlantic 2. Yuri!!! on Ice (Yuri Plisetsky GPF in Barcelona EX "Welcome to The Madness")

[seekers-who-are-lovers]

Bard: I was totally insane.

Sebastian Michaelis: Is that truly so? You’re the most “ordinary human” in this manor. You fear death, as humans should. You must be the only one in this Manor who does. I recruited you precisely for that reason.

Chapter 184: The Butler, Wandering

[shinigami-mistress]

Ordinary Humans

There was one part of Chapter 184 that really caught my attention. Sebastian tells Bard that he (Bardroy) is the most ordinary human and that he fears death as death as humans should.

This seemed odd to me. After all, we know that both Mey-Rin and Finny did things to survive. They don't want to die. Secondly, Bard literally says he only wanted to survive to keep killing. That's not exactly what would be considered normal.

So, what did Sebastian mean? Assuming that he's not directly lying, was he simply mistaken? Or am I, as the reader, wrong,

However, Sebastian could be making two statements. First, Bard is the most ordinary of the servants as he has no special abilities. His history up unto the death of his family was also the most normal. In fact, he's the only one of the three servants to have an unremarkable childhood.

As for fearing...Bardroy does seem to be the only one who continues to be on guard around Sebastian. Mey-Rin quickly became infatuated and Finny seems to trust Sebastian. Plus, they are not thrown off by would be assassins. Perhaps because of their own backgrounds, which is so different than Bard's life, they don't realize how abnormal all of this is. It's not that they don't fear death, but they don't have a 'normal' life to compare their current situation.

Interestingly, this all could have created another situation. After hearing he's the only ordinary one, he really takes another look at the other two servants.

It's possible this could create a rift between them. It's even possible that this is on purpose. While the servants have to work together, their loyalty must be to our!Ciel rather than each other. If Bard must choose to save our!Ciel or Finny, Sebastian would want that to be no choice. It would be best if the servants put their trust in Sebastian rather than just each other. Of course, I don't know if that actually happened.

Thoughts?

[aroturier]

I understood it to mean the other two were so young they hadn't yet reached the age and/or level of experience to TRULY believe death could really touch them. This lack of belief that they can really die is what makes teenagers believe anyone else can die but they can get in a car and drive like idiots and somehow the inevitable won't happen to them because it's THEM. 'Death happens to other people but not to me.'

Thinking this way could easily lead them to be overconfident about their ability to run out and confront Death instead of believing they truly COULD die and instead fighting a defensive battle where appropriate.

Mey and Finny are both still teenagers. They've both seen death very near them but it didn't actually touch them the way it did Bard. Bard ate and drank with Death, knew it's smell and taste, dealt it out, and slept beside Death in so many forms, he saw many, many people the same age as he was die and ROT right beside him, spoke to them one minute and had their brains and blood sprayed over his face the next far too many times to doubt his own mortality. He KNOWS in a way the other two have yet to truly believe in, that he is definitely mortal and can and WILL die. This will give him a much more level head under pressure. He will make much wiser, less riskier decisions. Plus he does have a sort of talent or 'super power' like the others, he's a real tactical genius. That coupled with his experience in war and ability to guess what the other guy will do next makes him a very able general for Ciel's little army.

By way of explanation, in that scene where Bard is first tested, he comes up on the intruders with a great deal of caution, using the stairs to hide and listen to what the enemy is getting up to. He waits for the best moment to take them out. I'm not sure what Mey would've done in the same situation but you know Finny would've just grabbed a statue in a combination of righteous indignation and fierce joy that he can be useful and and just charged them head-on, even though they had pistols and all Finny had was rage and a lump of marble. Not a lot of thinking going on there. This was one thing the anime got spot on. Remember how Finny reacted when they were hunting rats in the second or so episode and immediately he spots a rat he grabs a huge marble pedestal and hurls it at them, nearly killing Bard in the proess? Yeah, that. And they proved it would never even cross their mind to count how many intruders there actually were to make sure they got them all and one wouldn't later pop out of the shrubbery and blow the little master's head off later on.

This is what I think Yana meant. They lack common sense and maturity. They truly need Bard to ground them.

Ordinary Humans

There was one part of Chapter 184 that really caught my attention. Sebastian tells Bard that he (Bardroy) is the most ordinary human and that he fears death as death as humans should.

This seemed odd to me. After all, we know that both Mey-Rin and Finny did things to survive. They don't want to die. Secondly, Bard literally says he only wanted to survive to keep killing. That's not exactly what would be considered normal.

So, what did Sebastian mean? Assuming that he's not directly lying, was he simply mistaken? Or am I, as the reader, wrong,

However, Sebastian could be making two statements. First, Bard is the most ordinary of the servants as he has no special abilities. His history up unto the death of his family was also the most normal. In fact, he's the only one of the three servants to have an unremarkable childhood.

As for fearing...Bardroy does seem to be the only one who continues to be on guard around Sebastian. Mey-Rin quickly became infatuated and Finny seems to trust Sebastian. Plus, they are not thrown off by would be assassins. Perhaps because of their own backgrounds, which is so different than Bard's life, they don't realize how abnormal all of this is. It's not that they don't fear death, but they don't have a 'normal' life to compare their current situation.

Interestingly, this all could have created another situation. After hearing he's the only ordinary one, he really takes another look at the other two servants.

It's possible this could create a rift between them. It's even possible that this is on purpose. While the servants have to work together, their loyalty must be to our!Ciel rather than each other. If Bard must choose to save our!Ciel or Finny, Sebastian would want that to be no choice. It would be best if the servants put their trust in Sebastian rather than just each other. Of course, I don't know if that actually happened.

Thoughts?