#kind of. it's just as much an agrument and it's just as much focused on snotlout's jealousy at hiccup's accomplishments
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(Long winded anon from before) Hiccup doing a loud double take at Snoutlout being alive is gonna make me cry. these guys are such jerks to each other but man do they care deep down. hiccup's so happy that snotlout made it :') if only they had a better relationship i'm sure they'd both be able to relate to the idea that their bodies don't feel quite the same or even fully their own anymore.
(btw i love your nuanced spitelout take from the tags. i think he's really interesting both as a character and as a figure who's really messed up his son, he needs studied for how efficiently he's a bad father tbh.)
honestly the Snotlout mental breakdown my brain gave me was kinda a mess so sorry if it doesnt make sense.
but i imagine that snotlout was really raw after the heather report 1&2. first cause heather stole the scales (which even if he hates them low key they're HIS), then because he didnt even get a choice to tell everyone. their biggest enemies in the moment found out and then his five closest friends, bad order for any reveal honestly.
yeah it worked out and they got Heather and her family out of there and safe again. his friends even took the shifting thing okay but the fact that this part of himself that he feels deep shame for is out in the open feels like something that would only make him crank the obnoxious attitude to a thousand.
thus making everyone's ability to do math about his trauma ten thousand times harder. also i dont know that he'd realise that no one realised yet that he was the dragon in the arena. he'd be on pins and needles waiting for someone to mention it again making him go through it not realising that by worrying about it he was alreadying reliving it without them even mentioning it.
To me his emotional constipation was part of what made the scene in my brain so devestating, cause everyone would be talking about the events of the movie with hiccup super curious about his toothless bonding not realising that every time they talk about the arena and that 'missing strange nightmare' that its him. untill of course astrid does the math and tries to talk to about with him.
Astrid may of course also be emotionally constipated but she understands that this might be a personal thing for him. so i think she'd try to apologise for busting his hand up pretty bad only for Snotlout to brush it off agressively.
also i think fishlegs would make a dig or two about it it uninentionally. cause in rob and dob he goes through an arc where he becomes more confident but also lowkey hates snotlout for while so he probably wasnt being careful with his words, plus without knowing that snotlout was in the arena him mentioning the 'weird nightmare' he wants to study could easily sound like a threat.
to me it'd be the twins that accidentally pushed him into the semi public breakdown in front of the friendgroup. they'd make one to many jokes about his weeks 'surviving in the woods' and snotlout thinking that they are mocking him would snap. cause i think he realised how paper thin that story was too. it makes sense when you dont think about it or don't know he can shift but the second they all learned he could he probably felt like the dragon was out of the bag so to speak.
in my brain he just had this huge emotional word vomit about how none of them respect him. and how they all dont care about him and that clearly they just want the firepower for the team. not him and in general i think he'd just be shouting at them for awhile about how he feels but in the way he does in not lout where he just says stuff like 'i wont be on the streets!' without telling them AT ALL how he came to that conclusion.
OUGH AUGH OUGHHHHH I AM EATING THESE WORDS UP OW OW OUGHHHHHHHHH
Hiccup was definitely surprised! Flabbergasted, even! And also a little (kind of a lot) thrown off by how out of character Snotlout is. He definitely walks away from that interaction going "o... kay..." before refocusing on the task he originally set out to do.
(I really do think exploring Spitelout as a person is way more interesting than reducing him to "Snotlout's shitty dad". He sucks and I want him away from Snotlout but he's also still a character in his own right. and I can use that suckage to my own ends >:]]]c)
I mean, breakdowns do tend to be pretty messy, don't they?
And yeah Snotlout is SO UPSET after "The Heather Report II", yeah he kind of finally gets the hang of flying but like. Ohhhh you hit the nail on the head he is NOT having a good time! And also this is the point where he realizes that damage to his scales will hurt him!
IT DOESSSS HE GETS SO OBNOXIOUS ABOUT IT. Initially he's blustering about being fine and snapping at everyone to drop it when they try to bring up the shapeshifting, then he's bragging about how awesome it is to be a dragon even as he's angrily stuffing the scales back into a satchel. He's so so obnoxious you're right.
Hiccup recognizes that Snotlout's the small arena nightmare right away! Though immediately after stating this he asks if this is the reason why the small arena nightmare refused to do the hand trick: because Snotlout was messing with him? And Snotlout snickers because he does think it's pretty funny that every time Hiccup tried to connect with his dragon form Snotlout's outright ignored him just be a shit. Which of course derails the conversation away from the kill ring!
OUGH. AUGH. Astrid does realize that if Snotlout was the small arena nightmare, and if she broke the small arena nightmare's wing-claws, then -> she's the one who broke Snotlout's knuckles, and she does try to apologize, but Snotlout cranks up the obnoxiousness so bad because he doesn't want to really confront the memory that Astrid's bringing up. He uses her apology as an excuse to flirt and she knocks him on his ass. Neither of them learned a thing from this encounter.
Fishlegs makes less comments about Snotlout's dragonself and more general comments about how Snotlout sucks. He probably does at one point make a pointed comment about how Snotlout's "an insult to the intelligence and strength of dragons", though.
Post-reveal the twins spend a LOT of time trying to goad Snotlout into turning into a dragon for various schemes (or just because they wanna see it). This is both incredibly annoying for Snotlout AND feeds into his ego, as the twins are wont to do. And AUGH AUGHH THE TWINS MAKING JOKES ABOUT SNOTLOUT'S "TIME IN THE WOODS" OUGHHHH
OUGH AUGH. OH I CAN SEE THAT. MAYBE NOT IN RIDERS BUT DEFINITELY IN DEFENDERS I CAN SEE THIS BREAKDOWN HAPPENING. OUGHHHHHHHHHHH
#ask zaz#how to train your dragon#hidden talons au#snotlout jorgenson#snotlout's argument with hiccup in ''defiant one'' is kind of a breakdown!!!#kind of. it's just as much an agrument and it's just as much focused on snotlout's jealousy at hiccup's accomplishments#but it's still very much informed and charged by his experiences in the kill ring and how he's been bottling a lot of those feelings up#riders is mostly snotlout getting used to being a dragon in between all the other plot stuff#defenders is when we get into the emotional meat of it all#and then ofc in rtte snotlout's more comfortable with being a dragon to the point where his hide is a proper cloak with a clasp#(though a cloak is still fairly easy to remove...)#but rtte is also probably where the gang would finally properly meet the dragon that gave snotlout his scales in the first place#+ other fun changes due to snotlout being able to turn into a dragon (looks at last auction heroes and defenders of the wing)#this ask was very lovely btw <3333#took me forever to answer bc i kept going back to read it again
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hi ! I wanna request an angsty oneshot (with a happy ending,,) of carlos x reader. something where maybe reader suspects carlos is cheating and confronts him and it results in huge agruments or something along the lines of a fight (nothing physical ofc) but it ends up getting resolved in the end?
Authorâs note: Before reading, I just want to make thing clear by saying that I have nothing against Valeveira shippers or the ship in itself. If anything, I respect it (as I respect all ships in the RE fandom) and perfectly understand why people ship Carlos and Jill so much (Iâm not blind I felt the sexual tension in RE3remake). I have nothing against Jill either. To me Jill Valentine is the Goddess of Resident Evil along with Claire. It is very important for me to say all this because the last I wrote a jealousy-themed one shot that included a RE ship (that was Aeon) I incurred the wrath (and the hate) of a Aeon shipper. So, now that it has been said, enjoy the story.
Green-Eyed Monster - Carlos Oliveira x Reader
      You could feel it eyes upon you. That green-eyed monster staring at you with a mocking smile, slowly poking you towards an overwhelming anger that you know would soon lash out at your boyfriend who couldnât seem to notice your gritted teeth and clenched jaw as he was talking about the âfabulousâ âsupercop,â Jill Valentine, for the umpteenth time.     That little monster had been your companion for days, ever since Carlos had renewed contact with his âold friendâ. And truth to be told, it was not the kind of company that you liked most. It was permanently clenching your stomach with his claws, filling it with a disgusting nausea you didnât know how to get rid off, and whispering terrible ideas and thoughts in your ear.  But thatâs Jealousy right? That sickening fear that someone will take whom you love most away from you. That foul worry that you might not be good enough in the eyes of your loved one. That panic that someone might take your place.    But what if your place had already been taken? What if you had already been replaced?  What if Jill had already stolen Carlos from you? What if ⌠what if all your fears had already happened?
âIs something going on between you and Jill?â You realised what you had just said a couple of seconds after saying them, as if your words had been quicker that your thoughts, as if the little green-eyed monster had taken possession of you and turned you into the mere spectator of the incoming argument. Thatâs not what you wanted to say. Or was it? Â Carlos lost his smile as he seemed to gauge your feelings through his astonished brown eyes, wondering at the same time if he had really heard your silly question. âWhat did you say?â You did not reply and simply stared at him with cold blankness in your eyes, waiting for him to say something. âAre you asking me if Iâm cheating on you?â Â Â Â Â Â He was vexed, almost angry. You could tell it by the way his sudden gravitas was making his voice sound deeper than usual. But he was also hurt, deeply hurt. You only had to listen to the almost-unnoticeable shakiness and slowness of his words. Â Â Â âAre you?â Two words. One accusation. But enough to make everything blow to smithereens.
âYou canât be serious.â His eyes widened as he put his cutlery on the table, perfectly aware that he would not finish his meal tonight. Â Â Â Your accusations were enough to digest. âHonestly Carlos, I wish I was joking.â Your composure contrasted sharply with Carlosâ astonishment. He scoffed, refusing to believe you were bluntly accusing him of promiscuity. âDo you really believe I could do that to you? And with Jill?â That name made you slightly shiver and clench your fists on the table. Carlos noticed and he took great offence at your reaction. âOh come on! We just took a couple of beers together, Y/N!â Â Â âYeah. Yeah, a couple of beers.â You repeated with a sarcastic smile as you stood up to clear your plate, which was a mere way to end the discussion as soon as possible. âYou donât believe me.â No indeed, you did not believe him. You believed the little monster on your shoulder laughing at you. Â Â Â âHow uncharacteristically perceptive of you.â As much as Carlos loved you wit and sarcasm, he hated when you were acting that way. It had a knack for getting on his nerves in spite of his incredible sweetness and patience. âJill is a friend. We survived Raccoon City together.â Â Â Â âThat must forge links, I guess.â You declared as you threw your meal in the trash. Â Â Â Â Â âNothing happened and nothingâs happening.â He harrumphed, raising his tone slowly while he gestured you to stop with your nonsense already. Â Â Â Â Â âBut you wished it did.â That was not a question. That was a direct affirmation that was as sharp a knife and that Carlos couldnât deny. And it stabbed all the trust you and he had placed in your couple. Â âIt was a long time ago.â He tried to justify himself but you wouldnât hear what was to you pathetic excuses. âShe never wanted me. Everything remained strictly platonic. And then we went on separate ways.â You nodded though you were not convinced, too focused on the little monster whispering âlies, lies, liesâ in your ear. Â Â Â Â âAnd now sheâs back and everything you can talk about is her. Jill is amazing. That supercop, you should see how she beat the shit of that Nemesis.â
Carlos sighed, getting tired of your jealousy as his legs were fidgeting under the table. He had no reason to blame himself. He was faithful. Always had been. But he sure as hell had also no reason to silently accept your false accusations. âYouâre ridiculous.â He mocked. âIâm ridiculous?â You harrumphed with a forced laugh. âYou should see yourself and your heart eyes every time you say her name⌠God, itâs making me sick.â You turned your back on him, unable to look at him in the eyes, and furiously grabbed the sponge to wash the dishes. âOkay, now youâre acting crazy.â Carlos spat and you dropped your plate in the sink, offended by his words. You were not crazy. You knew what you had seen. Your boyfriendâs smile every time he would mention Jill, that spark shining in his eyes every time he would talk about her and her heroism, and more especially him leaving in the evening to have a drink with her, all dolled up and excited, only to come back in the middle of the night, reeking of sweat and alcohol. Sweat, really?  You know they had sex, donât you? The green-eyed monster murmured.
âWhy donât you just admit that youâre fucking her? So we can properly fight about whatâs really going on.â You demanded. Â Â Â Â Â âBecause thatâs not true!â He half-shouted. âIâm not fucking Jill. How else can I say it so that you can finally understand?â His gestures were wild and frantic and punctuating his words, showing how pissed he was. The Hispanic blood taking over certainly. Â Â Â Â Â âOh so now Iâm stupid? Fantastic.â You humoured and Carlos bumped his fist against the wooden table as he stood up to assert himself. Â Â Â Â Â Â âWhat is it that you donât understand?! Goodness! Youâre insufferable.â He growled but you didnât lose your spunk and chose to stand by your opinions despite how impressive Carlos was when he was angry. Â Â Â âThen maybe you should go find Jill. Iâm sure her presence must be more pleasant than mine.â âYou know what? Maybe I will.â
Exhausted by your childishness, Carlos exited the kitchen to go and grab his jacket by the main door of your cosy little apartment, definitely decided to leave the place and put an end to this stupid argument. Â âFine.â You screamed as you followed him. No way you would let him have the last word. âAnd maybe I will fuck her too so that youâll finally blame me for something I did.â He pointed a finger at you, looking at you straight in the eye. He didnât mean that but he was so furious right now he just wanted to hurt you as much as you were hurting him with your lack of trust and your awful accusations. Â Â Â âGo ahead! Enjoy!â You waved towards the door, welcoming him to pack up and leave though you secretly wanted him to stay. Â Â âOh I certainly will. Cause Iâm sick of sharing my bed with a insecure paranoid like you!â The rebuke hurt. You couldnât hide it and you resisted the urge to push Carlos out of your apartment. âYou know what the insecure paranoid has to say?â You shouted and Carlos slammed the door behind him. âFuck you!â You yelled, hoping he would here that from the corridor.
You roared, fingers tangled in your hair, furious and more especially pained. But it took you quite an instant to allow your suffering to truly settle as you were still somewhat holding up to the hope that you boyfriend would change his mind and come back to you. It took you the humming of Carlosâ bike in the street slowly fading away as he probably was riding right towards Jillâs arms.
      You cried yourself to sleep that night. Curled up on the sofa with your little green-eyed monster and his new blue friend he introduced as Guilt. And Guilt was as bad as Jealousy, perhaps even more painful. Guilt was the one murmuring all the regrets and remorse he could imagine. Guilt was the one that could tear your heart off your chest and tell you that it was your fault. Guilt was an ugly son of a bitch.
Carlos only came back early in the morning, around 5 or 6 am, with dark circles under his brown eyes, dishevelled hair and an exhausted slow gait. You watched him sit in silence on the couch next to you and take a deep breath. He wanted to say something. He just didnât know how to say it. You chose not to pressure him and remained still by his side, legs bent against your chest, puffy eyes staring at him. âI was with Jill.â    The confession twisted your stomach in a painful knot and you felt yourself unable to breathe anymore as if your lungs didnât know how to function anymore. But this time it was not the little green-eyed monster that was causing you this suffering. That was Guilt. â We talked a lot⌠about you mostly.â You listened carefully, aware there was nothing you could do, nothing you could say that would make things better now. âSheâs the one who convinced me to come back. She helped try seeing things from your point of view. I understand why you got jealous. I guess if I had heard you talking about a guy the same way I was talking about Jill, I would have got jealous as well. But what I donât get is how you could actually believe I would be able to cheat on you.â The pressure in your body slowly relaxed when you realised that Carlos did not want another argument but merely a calm explanation, something you should have had from the very beginning instead of bawling at each other.  âI donât know. I guess I was really an insecure paranoid after all.â Carlos briefly chuckled when he spotted your faint smile.      âI shouldnât have talked to you like that. I was a jerk and âŚâ You placed a hand on his thigh to cut him short. âNo. You were right. And you donât need to apologize for anything. If anything, Iâm the one who should apologize. I was the unreasonable one in this story. I let jealousy get the better of me when I should have listened to you and trusted you. Iâm sorry. That wonât happen again.â You promised as you looked him in the eye and Carlos smiled so softly it made your heart melt. How much you had feared not to be able to see that smile again after what happened. âGood. I hate when we fight.â Carlos said as grabbed your hand in his and pressed his forehead against yours.     âI hate when we fight too.â You pressed your lips against his, desiring that healing kiss more than anything right now. And it did heal you. And it made the monsters go away. All was fine now.
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City of Bones Thoughts
So full disclosure, I came into this with hella low expectations and prepared for the worst thing Iâve ever read basically. Many of that is because of the comments Iâve seen from other people and if Iâm being completely honest? I disagree with about 90% of the things Iâve seen them say about this book. So thereâs that. My thoughts in no particular order are below, Iâll try to keep it brief since otherwise itâs gonna get sooo long (my notes ended up being 14 pages which I debated whether I should just post them or not but decided to just give a summed up version instead).
Overall, I enjoyed this book a whole lot more than I ever thought I would and I love that. I absolutely loved many things from world-building elements to character interactions and conflicts and resolutions and Iâm definitely looking forward to the next ones.
1) I like the writing style; one thing Iâve always liked about CCâs books is that itâs easy to read them because the writing isnt some pretentious attempt at sounding smart, itâs simple and easy to understand and I very much enjoy that. And itâs actually a bit better than TID? which I didnt expect but in TID there were a lot - and I mean a lot - of repetitions and the same descriptions used a million times in like a page-two pages max which was kind of annoying and I thought it would be the same here but it wasnt which again, I enjoyed very much.
2) I like the basic idea of the plot, there was nothing super shocking about it, of course, since Iâve already watched the show but I like the idea of the whole hidden world, angels vs demons, warlocks, magic, vampires and werewolves and all that; Iâve said before and Iâll say again, one of my favourite - if not the favourite - things about these series is the universe that it created. It has some of my all time favourite tropes and world-building elements and itâs the first thing I fell in love with.
3) I like Hodge being the guy backstabbing the heroes and the foreshadowing of that; it was subtle enough that if I didnt know I wouldnt immediately realise it but if I reread the book or read it already knowing what heâll do itâs super fun to pick up on the little clues.
4) I loved that we actually got a resolution to the Clary/Alec conflict - and a satisfactory one at that! I absolutely didnt expect there to be one but I adore that their big fight was properly addressed and they both handled it in a mature responsible way.
5) Speaking of the big fight - one of my favourite scenes of the book! And one of the things I strongly disgaree that it was So PrObLeMaTiC; I mean yes, both of them were wrong to act the way they did, absolutely, but like people arent always fucking perfect? Sometimes they do bad things, they lash out and hurt other people in a moment of high emotions, etc. It doesnt make them terrible people forever more (especially if they apologize and realise their mistakes, which both Clary and Alec did). So in that repsect I fucking loved that scene - it was emotional, it was ugly but incredibly true to both characters and what theyâve been bottling up since the start of the story. And like I said, it had an actual resolution which makes it even better.
6) Another favourite scene - MAGNUS (is anyone surprised anymore). Every time Magnus was in a scene or was mentioned I might have definitely screamed. It be my brand. The scene where the gang goes to him for help is just amazing - everything about it; some many things going on, Magnusâs reluctance to help shadowhunters vs his fondness for Clary, Jace trying to blackmail him with the treath of the Clave like a typical shadowhunter, Alecâs quiet observations of Magnus and how he was the first and only one to not get upset with him and to assure him his past isnt his fault (also speaking of that, if Magnus shared his past with his step-father in this scene then doesnt that create a slight plot hole with TRSOM where he shares the same story with Alec? Although I assumed this was the first time Alec was hearing it but I dont think anything indicated this int he scene itself? Also Magnus was very brief here and didnt go into details so that could also be a reason). Magnusâs struggle to express to Clary that different doesnt always mean better and also how upset he got with the implication that he might have done something to âbreakâ her when all heâs ever wanted was to help - I love him so damn much. Also I love love how utterly unimpressed he is with shadowhunters still and how badass bossy he is and how he still managed to slip in some knock-downs on the Clave and shadowhunters by reminding Clary she isnt better than the rest of them.
7) âKeep it in your pants, shadowhunterâ only a true King(TM) can open his introduction scene like this.
Also âNot for free, darling, and you cant afford meâ -Â BEST LINE OF THE WHOLE BOOK
8) Magnus throwing a birthday party for his cat - â¤ď¸â¤ď¸â¤ď¸
9) Another scene I love and I think it did a great job of setting up both characters is the convo bw Alec and Isabelle while Clary is unconscious - I made a seperate post just about that because I liked it that much but basically I love that we see Isabelle being rather judgemental while Alec - the gay shadowhunter living in a unaccepting society is the one that seems to be missing that quality and comes to the defence of people more often than not.
10) Speaking of Alec, I really really like him so far; heâs sweet and clever and sarcastic in a different way than Jace and apparently has the one brain cell of the whole Institute 99% of the time (the other 1% is when Church has it) which is just a perfect recipe for a favourite character in my dictionary. I hope I keep liking him because after three seasons of wanting to punch show!Alec in the face, I really need this. Another agrument I disagree with comes with Alecâs fighting skills and people saying CC made her gay character deliberately weak... but like the narrative explicitly points out several times that Alec hasnt killed a demon yet not because heâs weak but because he focused on watching Jace and Izzyâs backs and using more defensive tactics rather than offensive. And then in the fight with Abbadon all of them are shown to be shaking in fear and basically useless against the demon, not only Alec. Jace - the golden hero - cant do anything either so I fail to see this as a slight against Alec. The fact that Isabelle and Jace arent dead yet should be proof enough that Alec is good at his job.
11) people getting called out for doing/saying shitty things at various points - I love that song
12) thereâs a lot more self-awareness than I originally anticipated.
13) âYou need to know someone to love themâ - book!Alec be speaking from my soul
14) I liked rat!Simon 100% more than human!Simon and that should tell you all you need to know about my feelings about him.
15) the finale scene between Clary, Luke, Jace and Valentine - I loved that. Although I knew what would happen it still gripped me in a way I didnt expect and I was practically on the edge of my seat. The way Jace struggled with his feeling for his father, Clary trying to break him out of it, Luke and Valentine facing off - there was so much emotion going on and characters pushing each other and interacting in meaningful ways and arh, I loved it.
16) Jaceâs portrayl as an abuse victim makes so much sense like every word and action makes sense given his backstory and it really makes me feel for him... except that one scene where he manipulates Alec into coming with them when he didnt want to by hitting on his insecurities. That was one thing I wished had also been addressed in the end.
17) Things I didnt enjoy - the girl hate between Clary and Isabelle and Simonâs nice guy bullshit. Both can kindly fuck off. Those are probably my biggest complains in this book which I hope with that ending weâre going to fix at least the first issue.
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I just feel like they're doing s2 over again. Having Alec doing this and this and this and have to keep coming back to apologize or say he was wrong and Magnus just forgives him over and over again.
Yeah, I would hate it if they just did a repeat of s02, especially because of disappointingly they handled that aspect last season.
But I think itâs a bit early to tell yet. Weâre only 5eps in and so far most of their time has been spent happily. We are just now getting into the drama of it so I dont think we have enough evidence to say how things will go at this point.
In fact, Iâd say we have proof to the opposite - in the first episode when they had the little agrument about going to Idris or not, Magnus was in the âwrongâ, so to say. He acted like he didnt care all that much which hurt Alecâs feelings and he was the one who had to approach Alec and talk about his real feelings in order to resolve the issue.
Alec even called him out on keeping his feelings hidden from him and pretending like everything was ok (while telling Cat the truth) and then waited till Magnus fessed up what was bothering him.
But in this particular case weâre dealing with now I dont think itâs fair to say one of them is right and the other is wrong. Both of them have valid reasons to feel how they feel - Alec is insecure/worried about their future and wants to do everything as quickly as possible because heâs just beginning to realise they dont have all that much time together. Magnus is terrified and panicked about the exact same thing and wants to slow things down because heâs also beginning to realise they dont have all that much time together and trying to protect himself from further pain. I dont think either of them is wrong to feel like this, given their situation.
The problem, I think, is how both of them approach the issue - they both have their own way of dealing with things but what they dont realise right now is that their way isnt helping the other person feel any better. Alecâs method is to just face the problem head on and deal with it, no matter how much it hurts - hence why he just went to Magnus and threw the topic in his face out of the blue which quite literally sent Magnus running because his method of dealing with this is 1) denial, 2) alcohol, 3) focusing on the present and 4) not thinking of the future till he absolutely has to.
Magnus doesnt realise (yet) that Alec needs to talk about this, to figure out what theyâre gonna do, how to deal with all these new feelings and situation heâs finding himself into. He needs to have a plan of action. And Alec doesnt realise Magnus is too hurt and terrified to be able to face the problem with any kind of ease and calm, especially when it gets dropped in his lap without any sort of warning.
I think thatâs the core of the argument right now and the show did a good job of not framing either of them as wrong for how they feel about this. I hope they continue to do so in future episodes.
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