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PSA to fan creators who don't have a lot of regular contact with children: They are almost always bigger than you think. A 1-year-old baby may already be walking. A toddler is likely already hip-high. A 10-year-old may already be taller than at least one of their parents. A 14/15 year old may already have reached their adult height.
#this is by no means a complaint re artists I am just always tickled#when people draw LWJ or WWX with A-Yuan#and he's the size of like... a cat in their arms#TV and movies do not help this misperception#they will cast small adults as teens and use camera tricks to make kids look smaller than they are#(cough michael j fox cough)#mikke's greatest hits (unfortunately)
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The dog days are over.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#The childhood flashback is one of my favourite scenes in MDZS and yes I am disapointing myself in how little I am covering it.#If it is any consolation...I'll be bringing JYL's piggyback scene into another comic later on.#There truly is something so specific and yet resonant in the way our bonds as children feel so deep.#But the world doesn't stay as small as it does when you are a kid. The problems you argue about get bigger and more serious.#You still hold so much love for this person despite how much you want to throw hands with them.#To have such a complicated history with someone and then fall apart...You always think you have time to heal the wound.#Why wouldn't you! You've never had anything but time with this person. A brother not in blood but in true and genuine bond.#And then the fucker dies! It's horrible and sudden and the last words you exchanged were cold and awful!#What do you do with those dead end feelings? What do you do but grieve bitterly and angrily?#There is no resolution for all the love you wanted back. There will never be an opportunity to bridge the gap between you.#Someone you loved died thinking you hated them. Because you thought you had more time.#If anyone dares say Jiang Cheng didn't love WWX I'll be the first to fire up the powerpoint presentation on why he absolutely does.
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unbelievably obsessed with how the juniors realize ‘mo xuanyu’ who is meant to be a bumbling idiot and embarrassment to his family is incredibly powerful, brilliant, and clearly very close with lwj, and they barely question it they’re just like yeah sure that checks out, moving on!
#wwx: we’re going to play empathy#juniors: that’s so dangerous and scary!!!!!!#wwx: it’s light work. come on kids#the juniors have my heart#they don’t care what everyone says abt mxy he’s so cool!!#and they feel safe around him!!#every time they follow wwx around like little ducklings it heals me a little#wei wuxian#wwx#wei ying#the untamed#mdzs#cql#mo xuanyu#lan wangji#lan zhan#lwj#lan sizhui#lsz#ouyang zizhen#jin rulan#jin ling#lan jingyi
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i feel like, actually, i know that wei wuxian is definitely the more serious parent between him and lan wangji - not as in personality, but in the way they treat their kids' needs (like studies, personal belongings, etc)
the last word deciding anything to do with their kids is wei wuxian's, he's the one everyone looks when they ask for something because as much as a fake teary eyes works wonders with lan wangji, it doesn't matter because if wei wuxian says no then it's a no
a-yuan: dad, can i go out with my friends this weekend?
lwj: ye- *looks at wwx calmly drinking his gourmet coffee* yes, you can
jingyi: dad, can i have this famous luxury brand's shoes?
lwj: *taking off his phone to buy it* *looks at wwx who's looking at him very seriously over his custom mug* ...no, you can't
#wwx also spoils their kids ok he's just not as soft as lwj#lwj is the yes dear everything for you dear kind of parent#and husband#he thinks is a sin to say no to your kid#he's learning ok#he just don't want to traumatize his kids like him and lxc were#but he also have too much money and nothing but good intentions#the kids like to smother wwx with a lot of presents for his bday and xmas#mdzs#wei wuxian#wei ying#lan wangji#lan zhan#this could either be modern or canon divergence#wangxian#married wangxian#lan wangji is a simp#idiots to idiots in love#lan sizhui#lan jingyi#used as exemples but could be oc kids#my writing#free to use#mdzs headcanons#mdzs imagine#bnnywngs writing
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#this is more accurate than ‘he was fighting demons the whole times it was bisexuality’#wei wuxian#wwx#wwx mdzs#mdzs#cql#the untamed#wei ying#wangxian#like give my dude some credit he was hearing VOICES in his sleep and seeing demons out the corner of his eyes#he was trying to keep slender man abated so he wouldn’t eat little kids or whatever#he was a bit busy to really sit down and figure out his sexuality#also the ghosts weren’t really equipped to deal with ALL THAT#all that being the conundrum of what wwx felt for lwj#alongside a ridiculous amount of self esteem issue and self sacrificial nature#also the ghosts were there for vengeance not to help a 19 year old resentment filled bisexual dude sort out his feelings#they wanted gore and blood not happy happy kiss kiss fall in love 😭
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Wei Wuxian was “adopted” by the Jiang family, but he refers to Jiang Fengmian as “uncle” and Madam Yu by her title. Wei Wuxian was “adopted” by the Jiang, but he refers to neither Jiang sibling as his siblings, only going so far as to call Jiang Yanli his “shijie” and refer to Jiang Cheng only by name. Wei Wuxian was “adopted” by the Jiang, but he keeps his original surname (which had to be told to him because street-kid A-Ying only remembered his baby name prior to being found by Jiang Fengmian), is not written into the family records, and only names Cangse Sanren and Wei Changze as his parents across both lives. Wei Wuxian was “adopted” by the Jiang, but nobody treats him like an heir and Jin Zixuan directly says that he should marry Jiang Yanli (insultingly) to become the heir if he likes her so much.
Schrodinger’s adoption: where a person is totally a part of the family except absolutely no one in said family acknowledges that this “family tie” exists, not the “adopters” and certainly not the “adoptee.”
Bonus: Jiang Fengmian treated Wei Wuxian so much better than Jiang Cheng, but he only really expresses concern over his own children’s well-beings and future while allowing Wei Wuxian to mostly do whatever. Jiang Fengmian treated Wei Wuxian so much better than Jiang Cheng, but he allowed his wife to whip and punish Wei Wuxian excessively without a word otherwise, something she does not do to her own children.
#mdzs#please bffr for a second#people can be close and not be related#cultivation sects take in kids all the time#this is not a form of family adoption#it’s how they work#an example of a family adoption would be wzl into the wen clan#he was not originally a wen#but when he was adopted in he changed his surname#and yzy actively comments on this#as him abandoning his ancestors#if wwx was adopted into the jiang we sure af would not room for doubt about that
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dead waltz.
#wei wuxian#mdzs#yiling laozu#mdzs wwx#yiling patriarch#i love yiling laozu wwx so much#‘i need him in a way that is concerning to feminism’#as the kids say#i think he should go insane#as a treat#honk mimimi i’m sleeping now this took everything out of me
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Just about finished scum villain, which means I'm letting myself take a look at the fandom. I thought I was prepared for this- "I've already experienced TGCF and MDZS, how much worse could this be?"
You fool.
#Why does everyone want to get sqq pregnant??????#Like I know what this fandom is like I'm not surprised that it's there I'm surprised it's there more than the other two series combined#was mdzs freed of it by wwx making it a known fact he would love to have kids?#was tgcf spared simply because the characters are too badass?#the great mysteries of the universe#also let's be real if it was a choice in-universe they would be like seahorses#lbh gets sqq pregnant and then carries the baby himself#don't ask me how it just is#I think I'm adapting pretty well to this insane fucking fandom#ramblings#mdzs#tgcf#svsss#bingqiu#mxtx
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Horrible thing to say but I think there's a real chance Jiang Yanli was both of her parents' least favorite child and knew it and just kinda. Had to go on with her life knowing that.
#mdzs#jiang yanli#yunmeng siblings#madam yu's favorite kid is jc. she doesn't. um. SHOW it in a very affirming way but he's clearly the one she's emotionally most invested in#jfm's favorite kid is wwx. is he even one of his kids? doesn't matter. he's the favorite#(madam yu does NOT see wwx as her child so he doesn't factor into the calculation for her.)#i think jfm's neglect of jc is talked about. mostly because the both jc and wwx are clearly aware of it and so it's mentioned in novel#but um... DO we see either of yanli's parents give much a shit about her? ever?#jfm doesn't even ask if she WANTS her engagement dissolved before doing so#also the reason stated by other characters for jfm not liking jc is that he's madam yu's child. you know who is ALSO madam yu's child?#i think jfm may find jc.. harder to get along with. but i also think whatever discomfort from his marriage he projects onto his kids#it also extends to yanli. it's just that he's not constantly REMINDED of yanli like he is jc#(because madam yu keeps yelling about it)#and so he just... doesn't think about her much at all#madam yu meanwhile treats yanli with this air of disappointment. she seems to resent that she's 'weak' and gentle and quiet#and that she cares so little about status so as to treat wwx like her little brother#i think yanli is just fundamenally so clearly... not the child either of her parents wanted. and it shows.#i'm slightly peeved fandom doesn't talk about this as much as they talk about the effects the jiang parents had on the two boys.#but to be fair to fandom the book doesn't either#which is probaly just danmei-typical misogyny. but to give a slightly more watsonian reason#i think the yunmeng bros are genuinely unaware of this. yanli is PERFECT how could her parents not love her?#(of course they notice something like zixuan's initial dislike of her but that's blatant.)#(vs the attitude of the jiang parents towards their daughter which seems to be mostly... disinterest and disappointment)
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You know what, I've read enough fanfic. I'm confiscating Madame Yu from you guys
Free my girl- she did the things she's being accused of, but not as frequently or severely as the fandom pretends, her actions are being taken out of context, and her depth is being reduced to that of a Colleen Hoover antagonist
#mdzs#madame yu#yu ziyuan#oh to live in a world that showed her the fraction of the empathy this fandom shows jgy or xy#or as the svsss fandom shows Shen Jiu#even though she didnt do anything nearly as bad as any of those guys#like- she was extra harsh and observant towards wwx but she didnt actually do anything other than enforce rules/punishments#which are noted to be significantly lighter than those of the Lan clan#and y'all know the whole whipping thing was an act right? y'all know she was making a gamble to try and get the wens to leave right?#y'all remember that its noted that wwx would recover in like a couple days right?#she's not some vindictive woman who baselessly hates wwx and beats him for no reason#god forbid a woman be mean and unhappy after being more or less forced into giving up her carrier to marry a man who doesnt love her#and then said man adopts his crush's kid and treats said kid with more kindness than any of his own kids#if y'all were just taking a hard line against beating kids I think I could respect that but no-#fics will condemn Madame Yu and then wubify Lan Qiren in the same breath#the tgcf fandom's treatment of Ling Wen gave me hope but y'all let me down
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(whispers: it actually was lxc who threw the snowball, he grew up without a little brother willing to indulge in something like snowball fights so he needs to get it out of his system now) (not that jgy is about to buy that)
#mdzs#3zun#jin guangyao#nie mingjue#lan xichen#jgy#nmj#lxc#nieyao#xiyao#it's snowing today so i needed to draw something snowy#just saying a cultivator snowball fight would be INTENSE#can you imagine wwx and jc as kids with more cultivation than sense? lethal#my art
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Hi Shana! Wow, *we* get gifts for *your* birthday? Lucky us! Could I have some more WWX and Jiang Yanli run away please? I hope you have a great birthday and plenty of cake!
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Sizhui and Jin Ling are offered separate rooms and he’s not sure exactly what Jin Ling’s face does because he’s too busy trying to keep his own perfectly neutral, but Baba cracks up laughing and leans into Uncle Wanyin’s side to say, “Just like us when we were younger, huh?”
Uncle Wanyin seems a lot less scarier than when he’d pulled his sword on them, but the scowl on his face isn’t exactly friendly. But he doesn’t push Baba away. “I don’t know what you’re talking about. I was thrilled when we got our own rooms.”
“We snuck into the others room at night until Madame Yu found out,” he says to them. Uncle Wanyin elbows him, but not hard enough to cause Baba to wince.
This is a little bit more like the grumpy younger brother Mama and Baba had always talked about, although it’s not coming off as exactly natural. But it also doesn’t feel fake either. Sizhui tries to think about how he’d be feeling and acting if he thought Jin Ling was dead for thirteen years and then he popped up like nothing had happened and decides Uncle Wanyin is doing okay, actually.
Separate rooms sound nice, theoretically, but this place that their parents say is home is still new and unfamiliar and frankly he wants his annoying little brother where he can see him. Just in case.
“It’s alright if you want to share,” Mama says. Jin Zixuan’s arm is around her waist and he’s looking at her with the same faintly adoring expression he’s had since he first saw her. They’re sharing a room too, apparently.
Which is fine. That’s her husband. He’s Jin Ling’s father. It’s just a little odd to see someone putting their hands on Mama, is all.
He’d feel guiltier about this if Jin Ling didn’t keep side eyeing his father too.
#rip wwx passed on his attitude problems to his kids#but jokes on him because they're going to react the same way to lwj but even worse since they're not even married#get your hands off baba bitch#prompt answers#prompts are closed#asks#flamingwell#untamed
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Daddy, don't go.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#jiang fengmian#Scenes that are tragic but still made me laugh: JFM wrapping the boys *right back up* after finding out it was YZY who tied them up.#I know he did it because he understands the severity of what's going on in lotus pier & the need to protect his children.#But it also comes off as 'Oh your mother said so? Yeah I'm not overruling her. Listen to your mother kids. I gotta go.'#You guys ever think about how the last time Jiang Cheng saw his parents alive it was them both pushing him away one last time?#I do!!! I sure do!!! Now you can too! Welcome to my sad little club. The refreshments are all saltwater.#And the subtle difference in who the parting is intended for. YZY meant to leave WWX with JC as a protector. JFM wants them both safe.#The reveal that Zidian responds to JFM aches so badly.#The fact the weapon she literally lashes out with also reveals her heart is so poetic.#I sure hope they can reconcile their feelings. I hope it all works out.#This is the last of the math boat jokes. Back to labeling the boats properly after this.
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Lan Wanyin, from a Zhancheng role swap cooked up with @limitbreaker23 💕
#I. have. soooooooo many thoughts abt this au#primarily the effed up dynamics between jc and lxc/lqr and between lwj and the whole jiang family#jc’s not the primary heir this time but he’s got the same need for positive parental support (that he still doesn’t get) that motivates him#yzy hates her kids no matter what and she just sees lwj’s quietness as cowardice#made even worse by wwx being his self-appointed mouthpiece throughout their childhood which she HATES#i just#SO MANY THOUGHTS#mdzs#zhancheng#chengzhan#jiang cheng#mdzs art#my art#and yes#he plays an erhu because I say so
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You know, one thing that boggles my mind is how some in the fandom can dispute that Yu-furen "didn't whip WWX", "only whipped him that one time in the novel and once in the extras" and my absolute favourite response... "WWX said she never hit him".
All of which are the most ludicrous statements I've heard since Trump won the election...
Obviously YZY hit and abused WWX throughout his life. Not only do we see her doing so, but we are given a vivid description of his back in the extras and it's covered in old scars alongside the new ones she has just given him for no good reason. Before anyone cries "but it's propriety, he was half naked in front of a young woman!" and all the other crap I've seen people spout, he's not the only one with a bare chest... Yet she specifically blamed and targeted him. Your precious "tiger mom" YZY was being unreasonable and you god damn well known it!
Anyway, regardless of whether you believe WWXs obvious lie to save face and cope with the trauma (just like JL does when he denies JC hits him and we clearly SEE otherwise) there is an actual line in the novel, from the narrator, not WWX... that spells it out for readers in black and white!
...and Jiang Fengmian’s wife Yu Ziyuan had never spoken well of them to him— honestly, things had been pretty good if she didn’t WHIP HIM or tell him to scram, or kneel in the ancestral hall, or stay away from Jiang Cheng.
- Vol 1. 7S, which is my least favourite translation because I really do feel the translator actively tries to play the abuse down.
Jiang Fengmian’s wife, Yu Ziyuan, never had a decent conversation with him. He would be fortunate if she didn’t GIVE HIM A FEW LASHES, or banish him to kneel at the ancestral hall so that he would keep his distance from Jiang Cheng.
- Chapter 29, Taming Wangxian
...Jiang Fengmian’s wife, Yu Ziyuan, had never been interested in having a conversation with him at all. If she didn’t WHIP HIM A FEW TIMES and tell him to get out, kneel at the ancestral shrine, and keep far away from Jiang Cheng, he already considered that pretty good
- Chapter 29, Fanyiyi
...Yu ZiYuan never spoke properly to Wei WuXian at all. It was lucky for him if she didn’t GIVE HIM A FEW WHIPS and send him to kneel in the ancestral hall so that he’d keep his distance from Jiang Cheng.
- Chapter 29, ExR
It's in...Every. Single. Translation. So there's no excuse if you're talking about the novel or tagging things as MDZS or Mo Dao Zu Shi. It's right there for everyone to see. WWX deemed it a good day if he wasn't whipped! Which would have been the days YZY was off night-hunting and nowhere near Lotus Pier.
Thankfully YZY being away from the clan residence seems to be the case more often than not. But those days she was there... It was a likely scenario WWX was going to be "punished" (for absolutely nothing) in some way or form and judging by the scars he had across his back, she very much liked to hit him with her spiritual weapon.
#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mdzs novel#wei wuxian#yu ziyuan#madam yu#wwxs canonical abuse#yzy whipped a kid because of her own insecurities and awful nature#people need to stop defending a child abuser
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[ID: two pieces with full body coloured sketches of wei wuxian and lan wangji from mo dao zu shi, in outfits from The Untamed. The first shows wei wuxian running, with a ponytail and a dark blue overrobe with a black leather belt and bracers, as well as a red underrobe. He is holding suibian in his right hand and tugging on the binding spell string with his right hand. Lan wangji is in his light blue travelling robes, with white underrobes, a white belt, and a silver headpiece, he is walking with one arm behind his back, and the other holding bichen. The second shows Lan wangji wearing plain white robes with faint cloud embroidery, he is holding a bloody bichen and thinking 'where tf is wei ying', and Wei wuxian in plain grey robes with a simple black overrobe and red bracers and belt. His hair is down and has streaks of grey, and there is a basket of radishes beside him. He is rolling his eyes with a fond expression at something offscreen and thinking 'man i miss lan zhan'. end ID]
this started off as lwj in my fave outfits from the untamed but...he looked so lonely without wei yings............so...
#wangxian#lan wangji#wei wuxian#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#the untamed#CQL#my art#fanart#drawing#art#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#sketch#burial mounds wei ying is watching some kids torment wen ning and is thinking abt The Good Ole Days tormenting lan zhan :)#WWX with grey hairs is inspired by another artist but i CANNAWTTTT find the post oh my god im gonna search my reblog archive and see if i#can find it so i can mention them down here bc the arts really fucking cute#EDIT: POMIDAEA! THATS THE ARTIST!#THEY DREW NINGXIAN & AYUAN SELLING RADISHES N WUXIAN HAD GREY HAIR!#CHECK OUT POMIDAEA 'S ART ITS SO FUCKING CUTE
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