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realhousewives-fan · 2 years ago

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Chaos with the Twisted Sisters

Ashley Darby and Karen Huger are planning a girls trip to Mexico to celebrate Ashley’s birthday – but this trip seems to be another chaotic trip for the Potomac ladies.

On the plane ride to Mexico, Mia Thornton and Jacqueline Blake suddenly had a huge fight.

For once there’s no footage or audio of the argument, but the women were more than happy to retell the entire fight.

And it sounds like they were arguing about the one thing that’s a big no-no in Real Housewives: They talked about each other’s kids!

And as there was no end to their arguments and crying, Candiace Dillard Bassett jumped up and exclaimed:

“This is a domestic dispute, we should back off!”

But I also think it says something that Ashley, Candiace and Wendy Osefo were consoling Jacqueline and not Mia.

Was it just because she was crying, and Mia wasn’t?

A lot of fans refuse to take a side on this argument, since this is, like Candiace claimed, “a domestic dispute”.

But we’ve been watching The Gorgas vs. The Giudices for a decade on RHONJ now, and the fans is engaging in that feud, so I have no qualms.

I’m not team Mia. We’ve seen how spoiled and entitled she is.

And not least, we’ve seen her lack of logic and difficulty in keeping a cool head while discussing, so, no.

She tried to make Jacqueline look like a homewrecker but seems to have forgotten that she told us that she slept with Gordon Thornton while he was still married – on a beach, with witnesses.

I don’t know the specific of what caused their argument, not really.

Was she rather upset with the way their relationship and her marriage were being perceived by the other women, and she lashed out at her safe space?

Again, it’s Mia’s own fault that the women have this strange impression of her marriage, because she likes to talk and to shock and intrigue too much.

As if this bizarre fight wasn’t enough, Gizelle Bryant pushed the topic of Karen’s dislike of Charrisse Jackson-Jordan until it all exploded.

#Real Housewives of Potomac #RHOP #Ashley Darby #Karen Huger #Mia Thornton #Jacqueline Blake #Candiace Dillard #Wendy Osefo #RHONJ #Gizelle Bryant #Charrisse Jackson-Jordan

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donnabroadway · 2 years ago

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RHOP and Colorism

We have been having the colorism debate related to Real Housewives of Potomac since the show first aired nearly 8 years. It was predicated on the debate that Katie, Gizelle, and Robyn were having about Robyn and Gizelle being biracial due to their appearance of light skin and green eyes and Katie's mother is black, darker skinned, has coarser hair texture, and has a white father, although we don't know much about him except that he's 100% German and Katie claims she is more white than black for that reason. After hearing the recent talk about colorism and seeing the fight between Mia and Wendy and watching how Robyn instigated and cheered on what was basically an assault against Wendy for no reason, it finally hit me what was being said. There is a reason why we can't assign Katie and Ashley, even Karen although they all have some sort of privilege due to their skin tone is because race and colorism are two different experiences. Having a father that looks white but is culturally black and chooses to live as a black man is different than having a father of European descent that has only lived the white American, or European, experience. Two different things. Ashley may have light skinned privilege and she may experience some benefits of colorism but she didn't live the same experience as Robyn and Gizelle and I think that's where I tripped up. Me being first generation college grad is different than someone who is a 4th generation grad. There is a legacy and pedigree that my family doesn't have.

An ism is something you actively participate in, a privilege is something that is sort of an offshoot of that "ism" but you don't actively participate in it. In order to benefit from colorism, you, or your family, must actively participate in it, not just be light skinned. Ashley may have light skinned, curly haired privilege but she does not have the benefit of being a colorist or even a classist because she does not have the privilege to actively participate in the perpetuation of that system. Katie may be mixed and her mom may be a high powered executive but Katie doesn't have the pedigree or class to get into upper class social circles, which is why Katie reverted back to who she really is the past couple of years. Classism and colorism are first cousins, if not half siblings, they don't always intersect but they're closely intertwined. Not everyone who was light skinned or mixed participated in colorism. There is a difference in having a poor Irish farmer father who was an indentured servant than having a rich landowner father who was willing to allow you to have some proximity to upper class whiteness. Having a landowner or slave master father who let you work in the big house as a child, allowed you to play with the half siblings that you didn't know were half siblings, and allowed you to get some trickle down education made a big difference. Many of those slaves were assigned to blue collar, skilled work, such as cooking, carpentry, blacksmith and they, and their mothers, were often freed and they were able to take their skills, and sometimes land or inheritance left by their slave master father, to get a head start in life. These children of slave masters then met other children of slave masters, married and created the black upper class. There is no secret why many of the men and women who had the honor of being first during reconstruction passed for white. If you did not know the Plessy in Homer vs. Plessy case was a mixed race man, you would assume this was two white men suing each other.

A couple years ago, Robyn did an ancestry DNA test and it was found out that she was genetically biracial with more white. That is not an accident. Robyn and Gizelle look like that on purpose. Vanessa Williams, who also has similar looks to Robyn and Gizelle is also genetically biracial although her parents are culturally black. This let's me know that there are generations of genetically biracial people only marrying other genetically biracial people. Just like Jews rarely intermarry, it was like that for the multigenerational mixed. They only married those with the same genetic make up. I also wouldn't be surprised if upper class blacks who did not have the complexion, purposely had biracial children or children with very light people so that they would be more accepted in upper class society. It is no secret that the public face of accomplished blacks were biracial or very light people. A side note, just like I don't think it's fair to shut darker skinned, 4c haired blacks out of the mainstream media, we shouldn't discount the blackness of a person who is biracial or light skinned because they consider themselves black too.

When HBCU's were created, the first attendees were often the children of mulattoes. Like with all "ism" we always have a few people that slip in. So like with racism, there are a few racists with black friends and black children, there are darker skinned people who infiltrated upper class society. Jamal, who is a Kappa, Morehouse graduated, son of a prominent pastor, and accomplished in his own right, would have been welcomed into the black upper class; Juan who is the illegitimate child of drug addicts would not have been welcomed, even though it has been rumored that his aunt is former mayor Sheila Dixon. I've heard rumblings and have read things but nothing is confirmed. All I'm saying is that light skinned and mixed does not automatically equal entry into the black bourgeoise, it is also about class. Jamal has the class and pedigree, Juan does not. They only similarities they have are in character.

When we discuss colorism on this show and how Gizelle and Robyn treat the darker skinned, or less educated women, I feel like that is the only accurate part of this conversation. This is probably why they look down on a few of the women because they weren't born into it, as well because she wasn't born into her life; they got into the life on their backs, and truth be told, Gizelle couldn't sleep or pedigree her way into those lives, trust me, she's tried. Everyone likes to talk about how Gizelle's face got real tight when Monique told her that her former NFL players husbands money allows her to have four homes and Gizelle got in her feelings, tried to downplay Monique, and literally ruin her life because this low class woman who didn't even finish college is living a life she doesn't deserve. Candiace got a bit of it but not as much because she has similar pedigree as Robyn and Gizelle. Her mother is a psychologist with multiple homes and her father is a doctor. Very similar. Robyn and Gizelle are classist and colorist, Ashley just has mommy issues. Then we have Wendy who is the child of immigrants, she's educated, she works hard and she has a good marriage, to them she doesn't deserve it, just like Monique and Karen don't. Then she has the nerve to talk back and think she's good enough? About two generations ago Wendy wouldn't even have been seen as good enough to carry Gizelle's bag, let alone be in the same spaces as her. I also think this is why they're trying to swap Karen out for Charrisse, even though Charrisse is not good TV but they think she deserves the platform due to her pedigree and connections. The problem is they've been trying to match fetch happen for more than 5 years and it always falls flat. Neither the producers or fans like Charrisse but they like Karen and it's because Karen is good TV and Charrisse is not. Karen is the perfect housewife; she married well, is willing to spend her money on events, is a bit delusional, is quick with the shade, can read well, and also can forgive and move on. Charrisse just looks like something stinks. Not a good fit. We don't care if Charrisse is friends with the Obamas, we don't want her on our screen. Please and thank you.

The reason why ashley and Katie clashed with Robyn and gizelle on the race and colorism thing is because two different experiences. Having a father that looks white but is culturally black is different than having a father of European descent that has only lived the white American experience. Two different things. Ashley may have light skinned privilege and she may experience some benefits of colorism but she didn't live the same experience as Robyn and gizelle and I think that's where I tripped up. Me being first generation college grad is different than someone who is a 4th generation grad. There is a legacy and pedigree that my family doesn't have. In order to henefit from colorism, you must participate in it, not just be light skinned.

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keirnytee · 3 years ago

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RHOP Season 6 Trailer: Old Feuds Re-ignite, Betrayal and a New Wife

bravotv.com Season 5 of The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP) last aired on December 27, 2020. Shortly after that Monique Samuels quit the show as it was a particularly hard season for her. There was now room for a new wife (or two) to fill the spot which apparently was in the works regardless. As I had mentioned on my podcast, it would be interesting to see how the women move on and based on…

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trashboxpodcast · 4 years ago

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In our debut Trash Box episode (YES MARSHALL WAS RECORDED IN A METAL BOX FOR HIS FIRST EP - WE FIX THAT), we celebrate the Salt Lake City premiere and dive into the hospital smell saga, Mormonism, and wiry, grandpa-marrying MadTV character, Pastor Mary Cosby. Then we head on over to Potomac in Portugal! It's Gizelle vs. Karen, trams vs. gondolas, and Wendy vs. the uneducated masses. So press play and be sure to hold onto your asses (cuz you know Michael Darby is jonesin' for a tushy grab)!

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violaslayvis · 4 years ago

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Potomac is so good. The Gizelle vs Karen fight with the mime has me in tears.

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womenofcolor15 · 4 years ago

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The ‘RHOP’ Monique vs. Candiace Physical FIGHT Finally Airs – Here’s The Castmates’ Reactions!

Last night’s episode of the “Real Housewives of Potomac” was EXPLOSIVE…to say the least. Co-stars/former friends Monique Samuels and Candiace Dillard-Bassett got into a physical fight and now we've got everyone's reactions. More inside…

The “Real Housewives of Potomac” fight fans have been waiting for finally aired last night. And whew! It was many things!

Tensions between Monique Samuels and Candiace Dillard-Bassett boiled over and it resulted in the ladies having to be pulled apart by producers.

Check it:

The #RHOP fight pic.twitter.com/VekA6yfz6d

— T4T (@Auxford_) September 28, 2020

And here’s a behind-the-scenes angel of the fight:

Tonight is the fight yessssssssssssssssssssssss #RHOP pic.twitter.com/YBAIyOLGXa

— Mihrimah BLACK LIVES MATTER |FREE PALESTINE (@Mihrimah_FS) September 20, 2020

Whew, chile!

Fans noticed Gizelle Bryant seemingly nudged Monique’s shoulder right before the fight popped off and they have been accusing her of starting the fight.

Monique noticed it too while she was live tweeting during last night’s episode:

Who’s hand was that pushing my shoulder #RHOP