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【KagePro】 KuroEne 🖤💙💗
I have too much power. I'm unstoppable 💥💥💥
Choose your favourite version of XX/6 🖤💙🐍🐇🫶
Ty to Feila for giving me the idea~ 💗
I think the first one looks the best in terms of positioning (how the images crop and fit in the frame)
I love the Playing Card chibi arts (so I originally did it with them), but it doesn't fill up the frames unfortunately. So I also did it with other arts too
Not right now ofc but I really wanna make plushie designs of them and my other top fave ships one day...
I have the video versions for all of these, but Tumblr doesn't let me upload more than one video per post
So I just uploaded the GIF versions.
Rambles
F: Imagine this GIF but XanLena
Me: Omg this would be so cute to do with XanLena…
F: You close the locket, they kith :3
F: LMAO DO IT
Me: THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OMG. I should do it with KuroEne's other official arts as well
F: LMAOAO YYEESS
...
Me: So tempted to do this with my ships
Put the meow meow mf on one side and their S/O on the other and then BOOM when the heart locket closes, they kiss!!!
(This was Feila's idea)
C: You should hahjtsh
Me: I'M A GENIUS
C: LOL
Me: KuroEne Kiss
Based on your ideas with XanLena earlier
F: THEY DID IT
THEY KISSED
THEY HITFHDHDH
Me: I felt :) the whole time while making these… I love them sm
Now all I gotta do is make these with other arts of KuroEne, XanLena, JuAli, IdaTatsu, and LimGuda. We need multiple versions of these for each of them
F: You definitely got an addiction but I support it 🔥
...
Feila suggested to make the GIF with XanLena, my KHR AU yume (Canon/OC) ship of XanLena (Xanxus/Selena) ❤️💜
So I took the opportunity to make them for my faves! I'll be posting the ones with XanLena, JuAli, IdaTatsu, and LimGuda separately!
Could you imagine plushies of them. Goddd I seriously need to make plushies of them in the future...
I want to have dolls of my fave ships one day where you can dress them up, so I can dress them in custom clothes and change their outfits from time to time :3
It'd be sooo cute for my OTPs to share a scarf together (if possible)
The best part about being able to draw for me is that I can fuel my fave chara/ship shenanigans 🤸 Yayyy!
Me making my KuroEne plushies kiss like barbie dolls 😚💘
And the same for my other ships!
#kagepro#kagerou project#kuroha#enomoto takane#takane enomoto#ene#saeru#me ga saeru hebi#saeru hebi#black konoha#dark konoha#kuroene#saeene#kuroha x ene#saeru x ene#dark konoha x ene#black konoha x ene#Not right now obviously but I wanna design plushies for KuroEne and my fave ships one day. I love them all dearly#Because I was thinking that I would love to have physical merch of them. I'll make my faves kiss like barbie dolls ✌️💗#I would LOOOVE to dress them up and sit them next to each other... That's a huge dream of mine#I think KuroEne should be on the easier end of my fave ships since their designs are rather simple and less detailed in comparison?#I'm not used to drawing chibi compared to how I usually draw but I'll do anything for my faves don't underestimate me. I'm dedicated#I also wanna doodle some scenes from my KuroEne AU Route where MaryEne team up against Saeru. This Route has such a fun setup#So I wanna draw some snippets from it eventually. Ofc I'd love to draw more but my yapping outpaces my drawing speed unfortunately#That's why I do rambles/dialogue scripts. So I can remember my ideas and hope to draw them later when I get the time#This Route is super long so I haven't gotten the chance to sort all my dialogue scripts for it yet. My posts are archives of my Notion docs#I have some art concepts simmering in my head like KuroEne wearing Viet clothes cuz seeing my faves in traditional clothes makes me <3#And then a ball themed art where Kuroha drapes a black veil over the both of them and Ene wears a dress with a cage skirt aesthetic
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ive seen a few people say that they like shaft's abstract visual style in mca but i must be the contrarian and say i extremely disagree....... kagepro has a large emphasis on 'the ordinary' and the 'regular, everyday life', because it serves as a sharp contrast to how the mekakushi dan are clear outliers to this standard way of life:
Children Record Side -No.7-
but nothing that shaft studio depicts actually feels like 'real life'; this is because the trademark of shaft's animation style are shots that jump from being abstract, cartoonish close-ups, to more distant compositions that often have the subject matter near the center.
^shots from ep 4 of Mekakucity Actors compared to ep 2 of Erased. both are from scenes where two characters of similar distance are having a conversation with each other, but notice the difference in camera placement and shot composition between the two. (of course the emotional atmosphere of the conversations are different, and will affect the composition of the shots, but i just want to contrast the compositional preferences that these two animes have)
shaft's manner of composing shots is useful because it manages to depict a lot of information (character expressions, location setting, etc) while actually having very little animation, and not needing to spend too many resources figuring out the positioning of the characters:
giancarlo volpe's post on screen direction
because of shaft's animation style, the complexities showcased in these pictures above often dont have to be dealt with, bc shaft instead prefers to jump between close up shots, distant shots, and top down shots:
this manner of camera placement gives off an unnatural and staged feeling. there is a lot of negative space, and its very effective when used in more uncanny and unnerving parts of the narrative, hence why moments like hibihiyo's kagerou daze and kano turning into haruka are very impactful.
however, its less effective when used in more ordinary scenarios, like moments in a school hallway, or when momo meets with kido:
^notice the abundance of negative space in momo's meeting with kido in the anime, in comparison to the Kisaragi Attention mv. this negative space paired with shaft's inclination towards symmetry makes for a jarring and unnatural atmosphere. again, good for more creepy parts of a narrative, less so for more mundane and ordinary scenarios.
which goes back to my original point about kagepro's theme of 'the rational everyday' vs 'the fantastical imagination': that shaft's animation style fails to capture this 'standard, everyday life' that the mekakushi dan is meant to contrast against. because shaft is incapable of capturing the mundanity of everyday life, the more unnatural parts of the narrative doesnt stand out as strongly as it possibly could.
i strongly feel that mca wouldve been more effective if shots set outside of the kagerou daze, in the normal world, had much more natural and more asymmetrical compositions, like so:
and so when we see more unnatural and unnerving compositions, which are the trademark of shaft's visual style;
it would be a greater visual contrast between the 'rational' vs the 'fantasy' dichotomy that kagepro makes a big note of.
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Kagerou Project theories?
ok so like
who here actually wants to hear my long-winded
“HIBIYA [OR KAGEROU!HIBIYA] (IS [MAYBE] STILL A THING) AND [IF IN SOME ROUTES AND NOT OTHERS FOR REASONS] IS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY OR BOTH COLLABORATING WITH SAERU / CLEARING EYES AND OR MAYBE VERSIONS OF THE MANGA ROUTE’S NEW FORM SAERU / CLEARING EYES” theory
because like
(^ that’s young Seto btw) .... idk how many of you
were here for Outer Science
when the music video from Music Route & song first dropped
(^ oh hi thematic parallels) but
(^ this too) ... things happened
yeah
... I STILL HAVE THEORIES
maybe a fun bonus? (this cap by me):
#kagerou project#kagerou daze#hibiya amamiya#kuroha#outer science#kagerou days#kagepro theme: comparisons#wannyanpuu hibiya#kagerou#saeru#snake of clearing eyes#(kuroha)#konoha#momo kisaragi#kousuke seto#mary kozakura#(THERE'S MORE WHERE THAT CAME FROM)#(LITERALLY ALL OF THESE AND MORE ARE IN MY OLDER 'COMPARISONS' TAG THAT I STILL NEED TO RE TAG)#(also hi manga route and end of novels route or novel 8 is giving me I D E A S)#(i'm maybe totally wrong still but still THEY STORYBOARDED ALL OF THIS THEY HAD TO HAVE PLANNED SOME OF THESE PARALLELS I MEAN)#(also still have to do: THOSE OTHER KAGEDAZE x KNSJ x OUTER SCIENCE PARALLELS w h y)#long post#very long post#(... i'm sorry?)#(i had to suffer before so)#(*anyhow PLEASE WATCH ALL THE MUSIC ROUTE VIDEOS YES THEY ARE STILL SO IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY WHEN ROUTES WRAP UP AND NEW ONES BEGIN)#blood#blood //#character death#character death //
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( Description/spoilers/warnings/LYRICS, etc. under the read more ! )
* D O N O T R E B L O G * TEST POST / TO BE REPOSTED TO OTHER DIGIBLOG * LIKES / RESPECTFUL COMMENTS OK
I DID IT /I FINALLY/ /HAVE A PRELIMINARY AMV OF THIS ONE ..... OMG
" Toumei Answer " ( can be read as "Transparent Answer", "Invisible Answer" .... )
- more Repeat-verse, THIS TIME IT'S VERY TRI ( MAINLY KOKUHAKU, MEIKO ) - a lot more aesthetics in general though ? - however there ARE some slightly spoilery scenes from Bokura no Mirai - if you know DAIGO spoiler or Kyousei's as well, Taichi spoiler, Meichi implied scenes pre-BNM ending etc you already know it - a bit of Meiko and Meicoomon's final scenes are in here too though ..... ;;; ( only small bits though ) (but yeah) - a VERY tiny bit of Kizuna trailer scenes are in here, too ( about 2~3 quick flash scenes or so ) [ more for aesthetics bUT ] - a tiny tiny bit of " To Sora " but it's less of Sora and more of . flowers . yes
- ok so this AMV - this one is my attempt at comparing and contrasting: -- Taichi, Koushiro, & Meiko in general; + Tri!Taichi, Tri!Koushiro; + themes surrounding their storylines/developments ? - as well as : Taishiro, vs Meichi, ( t b h I might be implying at least a few TaiKouMei polyship potentials ) - basically like a character comparisons/introspections video in attempts to point out Things I Am Intrigued By - in regards to their storylines, behaviors [ during Tri's plot especially ], and such and such - basically: tAICHI ..... KOUSHIRO AND MEIKO ARE ..... VERY VERY SIMILAR IN WAYS ACTUALLY ..........
technical notes:
- THERE ARE SOME GLITCHES I NOTICED THEM hopefully they will like - fix themselves when . I re-edit . and add subs . y e a h - ( WMM tends to fix itself upon re-saves, etc. ) - Windows Movie Maker aLSO Began The Crashing towards the middle - I had to split it up by the end of 1st choruses - and re-splice it all together - hence there are some frequently repeated moments ( the classroom scenes ) I will . REPLACE A COUPLE OF THOSE LATER but yeah - was using them as filler to parallel the original video too OTL - so any repeating scenes I might throw in a few more moments of Koushiro to replace them ; etc. later on - CURRENTLY THIS IS UNSUBBED HENCE THIS PLACEHOLDER POST - I PLAN TO ADD SUBS EVENTUALLY, BUT - I PROBABLY WILL NOT BE FINISHED UNTIL JUNE/MID-SUMMER
PLEASE SEE END NOTES FOR ORIGINATING SERIES WARNINGS, ETC.
LYRICS:
...It’s not even bustling , And in that kind of everyday ...
I would sit in my seat many times over as if ... DRIFTING... .
" SO , how about you ? "
As if TRYING AGAIN ,
... The NUMBERLESS TEXTBOOK ... SAID something .. .
( aah ~ .... )
... If you mean my RESULTS, then , ... Well , I guess they’re fine .
... Getting a “ three-digit ‘ perfect ’ score ” on recycled paper.
In the seat beside me , ... With an embarrassed smile ,
... YOU took your seat with a “ low-digit score ” .
Outside the window , I don’t seek anything out .
Because AN ANSWER soon RISES UP ...
" ... If that’s the case , then hey , that’s PRETTY BORING "
Saying that , Y O U always SEEMED to be ENJOYING YOURSELF ...
[ Chorus 1 ]
D O N ' T T O U C H ,
... the HEART that wants to DISAPPEAR ANY MORE THAN THIS ,
Even today , it can’t be seen anywhere on this earth ...
The A L A R M that rings out:
TELLS ME A L O N E ,
" You’re A ' COLD-HEARTED ' GUY , H U H "
Even if I put together those MYSTERIOUS ANSWERS after so long I’ll still be able to understand them completely somehow
" At this rate , EVEN IF I DIE ,
SOMEONE ELSE w i l l j u s t REPLACE ME "
... Just whispering that ,
... is so F O O L I S H . [ Verses 2 ]
Though these drifting days REPEAT ,
... I get this STRANGE FEELING [ whenever ] YOU'RE a b s e n t
... Well, whatever happens, the test that is returned tomorrow
... Will probably have a result that hasn’t changed for the better ,
( aah ~ ... )
In that kind of everyday that wasn’t even bustling,
... Somewhere, SOMETHING may have
.. ALREADY GONE AMISS ...
THE COLOR of YOUR HAIR ,
And your S M I L E ,
... Someone may already be U N A B L E to REMEMBER IT .
" From THE WINDOW , how is
That EMPTY SEAT r e f l e c t e d ? "
I thought I had KNOWN YOU , B U T
I HAD UNDERSTOOD /// NOT ONE THING /// ABOUT YOU .
[ Chorus 2 ]
The days that would surely have continued
Had I been able to understand even a little more ,
Every time I STOP THE ALARM that RINGS OUT , I realize
... That THEY'RE GONE .....
[ Final Chorus ]
In the classroom, the HEART THAT WANTED
TO DISAPPEAR was INJURED
But kept on CONCEALING IT and LAUGHED ,
MANY TIMES OVER
YOU , who LEFT FROM HERE and VANISHED ,
/// I WON'T FORGET /// YOUR S M I L E ,
... NOT even T O M O R R O W .... ... .. .
slight but significant TRIGGER WARNINGS for the originating song: [ relevant MORE to K@gepro’s original and LESS to Repeatverse BUT ]: - In K@gepros original version, the song is about a specific girl and boy duo only [ not KageDaze boy+girl, another duo ] ( in my version, I'm throwing in Koushiro as an extra + for . fun . ficverse things ) [ both Koushiro and Meiko are paralleling the girl ; Taichi the boy because Main Charas sIGH ] - since it's Kagepros, of course, there are the psuedo-deaths there too - with Kagepros however, STRONG TW: this song very heavily implies " s.uicide " of the girl of the duo - however in the end it's a LOT more like KAGEPROS SPOILER FOLLOWS: the psuedo-deaths self sacrifice because - the characters initially THINK she has died via those means and at a point she probably had - HOWEVER as the story develops she gets second chances and different outcomes/outlooks sO ..... YES
the original K@gerou Project video for timings, etc. comparisons is here.:
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PLEASE note the warnings mentioned above if you watch.
#koushirouizumi posts#koushirouizumi creates#koushirouizumi commentary#koushirouizumi introspection#koushirouizumi comparisons#koushirouizumi amv making#koushirouizumi amvs#koushirouizumi fanworks#fic: repeat#verse: repeat#verse: tri#verse: bokura no mirai#c: meiko mochizuki#c: koushiro izumi#c: taichi yagami#c: daigo nishijima#c: taichi#c: koushiro#REPEAT TAISHIRO#REPEAT KOUSHIRO#REPEAT TAICHI#taishiro#taikoumei#otp: shall we go together#polyships#(' MAYBE I CAN GET THE SUBS ON BEFORE AUGUST 15TH ')#(nnnnnot confident to post this over on the main yet so fOR NOW)#(FOR ANYONE ..... STILL LURKING)
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【Multifandom】 Rambles
Update Rambles
Putting this as a ramble post too cuz I edited it today
I think in terms of art, I wanna grow even more obviously but I'm happy with my huge improvement this year... My style looks the best it's ever been and my way of drawing face/eyes and sense for picking colours keeps getting better and better.
I do think I wanna jumpstart a huge art improvement growth journey by trying to make gesture drawing somewhat of a consistent thing for me. Cuz I have no consistency for my gesture drawings. Not right now obviously but I wanna design plushies for my fave ships (XanLena, KuroEne, JuAli, IdaTatsu, LimGuda) one day. I love them all dearly… 🥺🫶
Because I was thinking that I would love to have physical merch of them. I'll make my faves kiss like barbie dolls ✌️💗 I would LOOOVE to dress them up and sit them next to each other... That's a huge dream of mine
I think KuroEne should be on the easier end of my fave ships since their designs are rather simple and less detailed in comparison? I'm not used to drawing chibis, compared to how I usually draw, but I'll do anything for my faves. Don't underestimate me. I'm dedicated.
I also wanna doodle some scenes from my KuroEne AU Route where MaryEne team up against Saeru. This Route has such a fun setup, especially with the way it plays out. Because it's so long, I haven't finished writing for it yet.
So I wanna draw some snippets from it eventually. Ofc I'd love to draw more, but my yapping outpaces my drawing speed, unfortunately. That's why I do rambles/dialogue scripts. So I can remember my ideas and hope to draw them later whenever I get the time
This Route is super long so I haven't gotten the chance to sort all my dialogue scripts for it yet. I take from my Notion docs for my stories. They remind me what I have/haven't posted on my socials
I have some art concepts simmering in my head like KuroEne wearing Viet clothes cuz seeing my faves in traditional clothes makes me <3 And then a ball themed art where Kuroha drapes a black veil over the both of them and Ene wears a dress with a cage dress aesthetic <3
I used to post my notes onto Insta directly (by copying them from my Notion docs) but it takes more time to format. I’ve been busier lately cuz of school, so I just post SS of my Notion docs directly.
Art Growth
Exactly agreed with this. This is how I spend my time drawing so I appreciate OP for putting this into words. For me I usually rotate between my interests but always end up coming back to them eventually since they're always in the back of my mind, even if years down along the line
I find that if I get really invested, then I don't move on from my fave series/characters. They linger in my heart forever and I just rotate between them. This also helps avoids burnout with one interest for me. My followers don't really have to worry about me not drawing [X] character/ship anymore. I will always come back to it eventually.
Tho, just in general, it's natural that peoples' interests just phase in and out, and they may or may not come back to [X] thing. I first got into KagePro when I was 12 so I'm surprised it took me this long to come back to it publically, since I had instances where I'd draw doodles for it but just not post them
I'm MORE shocked that I didn’t talk about my KuroEne obsession until 2024? I was literally NEVER obsessed with a ship like that until them (KuroEne). 12 y/o Sen's first big ship 💗
Cuz I was 12 when I first became obsessed with them, and up until that point, I wasn't insane about a ship like that until them
Me with my faves is basically just my insanity speedrun, especially when I’m mainly obsessed with XanLena, KuroEne, and IdaTatsu solely cuz of my ship AUs & interpretations. Those ships hinge entirely on my AU writing.
But I think it's cuz I knew the KuroEne obsession would come back in full force and that's exactly what happened in April. I predicted it LOL. I'm not really surprised cuz Kuroha/Saeru is EXTREMELY Sen-core in both writing and design, and his character concept and role as the main villain, is so unique. The instigator of the time loop tragedy who’s the embodiment of “Knowledge/Wisdom”
As I said, my top faves are all equally important to me they're just personal and important to me in different ways. So I try to split up the time spent between each interest by rotating through them periodically and drawing for them in random bursts. I always get a feeling of “I miss them and want to draw for them again...”
Like, I've mainly been drawing and writing KuroEne lately cuz they're the easiest of my faves to draw imo (other than XanLena).
I'm very particular about the way I draw Xanxus' eyes and hair (it's generally easy but sometimes I have trouble), but with KuroEne, I don't really have much trouble drawing them at all (their headphones are annoying to draw, along with the belts/straps on Kuroha, but they're generally easier).
So I'd put XanLena and KuroEne at a similar level. Like I don't really have trouble drawing KuroEne's hair and facial features. They're easy to do an initial sketch pass for. For the others, I either draw them good on the first try or they take multiple sketch passes for me to get right
I think it goes like this in terms of difficulty (easiest to most difficult)
KuroEne & XanLena < JuAli & IdaTatsu < LimGuda
And LimGuda's difficulty is because of how detailed Douman's design is
Also cuz Feila chats with me about KuroEne everyday, so the KuroEne AU rambles are just easy to post cuz I can just snatch from my notes, or whatever KuroEne AU works I'm working on.
In general, I snatch from whatever I'm currently drawing/writing about (or recent WIPs, or ones I've recently worked on and revamped)
But I think about all of my faves daily. I've been thinking of wanting to create for my other interests too.
Art is a craft of someone's passion and hard work. People are not entitled to it. I lowkey got sick/annoyed of drawing Ak*Yona cuz I got sentiments from people like "Please draw more ANY 🥺" and cuz it overshadowed the main AU works I focus on. Like... how do you think I'd feel about that.
Every few ~ several months, I get a feeling of wanting to archive my old works, cuz I hate looking at my old art. Some things from 2023 are hard for me to look at, much less anything older than that. I felt a sigh of relief when I archived most of my gallery. I want to fill it with new arts eventually ✌️
My mental health hit its lowest lows at times in the last couple years cuz of my not so great home life, but I think in terms of art, I'm the happiest I've been, rn. If I draw something, I want it to come from my heart as something I wanted to do, not because people wanted me to draw it
Ship Tastes
I think I talked about how I felt before in my Notion docs, but didn't post it here. To me, I feel like, the more that a ship resembles "traditional romance," the more I'm turned off by it tbh. I'm not looking for highschool sweethearts esque stuff. I like literary romanticism, the opposite of literary realism.
My fave ships are ones that are intense and dangerous, and deadly and passionate. I like ships with a compelling amount of conflict and tension, ones that are complicated, complex, and messy.
My ships are not "traditional romances" and I prefer it that way. Makes it much more interesting to me
Because for me, my only reaction is just, "Oh it's cute Ig." But there's nothing (or hardly anything much) for me to say about it.
ALL of my top fave ships are like this, so I think it really shows in my ship tastes.
Also on a side note. I also get bored by masc charas who are too NORMAL... Fiction is a form of escapism for me, I'm not searching for normal people it's generic and boring to me
That's why my acc is a villain enjoyers zone cuz my faves are all weirdos. They're just more fun /pos /endearing
Though I do make exceptions.
This is exactly how I feel
This fully explains why I'm only obsessed with MLW ships if:
The ship is complicated, messy, chaotic, and funny
At least one of the charas is queer, or can be HC'ed as queer
Like it HAS to have these, in order for me to be obsessed with it. Like if it doesn't have these requirements, then it's only a casual like to me. I’ve never had an exception to this
I HC my faves as LGBT+ by default cuz I'd keel over if any of my faves were straight. I'm allergic to cishet people
The thing is, is that I have very hyperspecific ship tastes, so my ships need a certain level of intensity and danger for me to be obsessed with them. I like when my ships are intense and dangerous
(Either one or both of the charas are dangerous, or their relationship is, in some way)
My big MLW ships are IdaTatsu and KuroEne, like the men in these ships are fruity af
Cishet meow meow mfs are a myth
Kuroha/Saeru can use Awakening Eyes to change his body into whatever he wants. I love my NB genderfluid Kuroha/Saeru HC sm. That's genderfluid swag 💖
Agreed with this post btw like the best MLW romances are written by queer women (bi women and lesbians allergic to heteronormativity)
I noticed that a LOT of my fave ships are Enemies/Rivals to Lovers
Enemies to Lovers: JuAli, LimGuda, KuroEne
KuroEne
KuroEne is my case study ship like it's fascinating to me
I'm studying them like a hamster spinning on a wheel
My mad scientist brain (or maybe Kuroha/Saeru's mad scientist brain?) is going off the rails /lh
Every other fave ship of mine I want them to be happy. My ship AUs are generally fluffy and focused on the ship and their intimate moments and them spending together
This is true for KuroEne too, but for KuroEne, I want their infinite XXX amount of Routes to keep on going forever so I can keep writing their endless possibilities cuz it's so fun to think of
There are some ships where I'm like "I don't think of them in terms of a usual romance/relationship, I just think they're interesting"
And yeah. KuroEne engage in intimacy but their r/s is soooo messy, and that's why makes it fun.
Once my faves are past the initial animosity/hostility, getting to know each other, I could definitely see my other ships in actual romantic relationships.
KuroEne is a different case tho because of Kuroha's role/setup as the instigator of the time loop tragedy constantly killing the cast who retains the knowledge/memories of previous Routes.
So in these XXX amount of Routes, they get reset back to 0 at the end everytime, and then they meet again... And Saeru remembers all these encounters.
Their relationship is filled with conflict and tension, desperation, love, obsession, passion, yearning, desire, attachment.
KuroEne is definitely different from my other ships, cuz, in the context of a ship AU, Kuroha/Saeru loves for his own sake due to his selfish, twisted desires. The emotions are genuine but it lacks pure, genuine love.
I imagine that the KuroEne AU started cuz he wanted to prove his theory that humans will do anything for love.
Irt how the KuroEne AU starts
He first questions humans' desire for love (that he probably mistook as lustful pleasure) then he decided to test his experiments on Ene (due to his vessel). Takane/Ene is more affected by Haruka & Konoha than anyone else. And that's how he comes up with the whole idea of the "game" with her, their trysts. And that's when he approaches her with the proposal to make her a body...
His elaborate scheme done in the most roundabout convoluted way, lol
One that he presents to the other party as being an equal trade, but ultimately benefits himself, mostly.
Though it is true that Kuroha/Saeru grants all of Ene's wishes in their relationship... He caters to her wishes and appeases her personality and whims, takes her out wherever she wants, gives her gifts, and love and affection...
Kuroha gives her everything she wanted (even if it comes at a heavy cost)
That heavy cost being - He kills everyone.
He gives her everything except for what she truly wants (getting to move onto the future with everyone and have a happy life)
And he gets to satisfy his desires for accumulating more knowledge (with getting to build the android body and improve on it)
It's filled with a very ILL affection, cuz he is at his core, ill.
Even Douman can be very genuine/show more tender sides...
When he reveals himself to Ene, the betrayal's gonna sink in. Like, if you spend that much time getting to know someone (I imagine they were basically living together for 1 - 2 years) then the betrayal from him revealing his true intentions is gonna be devastating
I imagine that he genuinely enjoyed his act of playing pretend with his S/O (and to the rest of the MekaDan, if they meet in this Route) and enjoyed the time he spent with them, and that's exactly why he won't give it up.
Like...... He's gonna push back against the idea of Ene proposing moving onto the future with everyone as much as possible for the sake of his own immortality (above all else), and then, on a secondary level, for the sake of the game - the love that's keeping him fulfilled
I see them as the type that will meet and cross paths with each other and meet and engage in intimacy with charged sexual tension
#sen's rambles#sen's multi#xnln#lmgd#idts#jdal#jdali#judaari#kroknoene#kurokonoene#Was wondering if I should tag them but Ig I can copy it into a different post
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【KagePro】 KuroEne and KonoEne Rambles 🖤💛💙
✨ Sen's Resources ✨
Made a Notion page. It's a Drive folder that contains resources for my various interests. It contains scans, doujinshi pictures, fan-made colour edits of official art, upscaled images, etc. I'll be adding to it whenever I get time~
I made a Google Drive folder to put my KagePro resources (upscaled versions, edits, eventual scans) in that my mutuals can have access to! I'll be cross-posting it to my socials.
I'm not done adding to the KagePro ones yet for now cuz there's literally sm to go through. I'm prioritizing archiving 9/6 and all related ships (Takane/Ene x Haruka, Konoha, Kuroha) due to my favouritism. My wife Ene and her Haruka lookalike harem 🖤💛💙
And KHR has endless merch that releases almost daily. So this will be an archive over time 🙏
I think most of Magi's official arts are scanned online, so for FGO and Magi, I'll mainly be putting LimGuda and JuAli's ship doujinshi that I've collected from EA/JP artists, eventually.
Outer Science MV: Comparison
Original MV
KagePro Wiki
"Welcome to my womb" (Youkoso waga tainai he) "Love and ego's final destination" (Ai to ego no shuuchakuten)
Original MV
KagePro Wiki
"Lives, give praise; (Oukashiro yo seimei yo) As love and ego press hands together" (Ai to ego no gasshousai)
Outer Science (Original MV): (X)
Outer Science (English Fan-Translation by vgperson): (X)
Rambles
The KagePro fandom wiki has clearer screenshots than what I can get from the Outer Science MV... I ripped the YouTube videos myself, but comparing the screenshots, they're lighter and clearer than the Original MV posted online...
The only thing that makes sense to me is if the people managing the Wiki (who are also the main scanners/archivers in the KagePro fandom) have access to the Mekakucity V's Blu-ray/DVD that contains the original KagePro Song MVs, and that the Blu-ray (BD) edition has colour corrections applied to it to make certain details easier to see
Like you can actually see the straps on his sleeves, the lines and colours, and the cracked glass texture that's overlayed on the entire MV, much better
The Original MV posted online is already in HD but I imagine it has to be compressed for web upload? It makes me so curious about the Blu-ray cuz the Blu-ray versions would definitely have them in the highest quality possible. Ultra HD.
It's lighter so you can actually see the lines/details better on his clothes (like you can see the lines of the straps on his sleeves) and the details are much clearer
I recently got my hands on Sidu's artbooks and the Mekakucity V's Blu-Ray through secondhand resellings, so I'm SO excited for when it finally arrives <3
KagePro Playing Cards by Sidu 🖤💛💙
KUROHA JOKER CARD OH MY GODDDDDDDDD 🃏💖
The composition in this is so cool... It sucks we don't have this in HD... This will do, though 👍
I knew my fave was jester themed. Another evil gay jester for the bag! <3
Ene matching with her bfs~~ All three of them! 🖤💛💙
Ene = 6
(Mekakushi Member no. 6)
Konoha = 9
(Mekakushi Dan member no. 9)
Haruka = Jack
Kuroha/Saeru = Joker
Icons Credit: @/lowenklasse
Idk how people are making Kuroha PFP icons with this art cuz the preview's rather small but the composition and expressions are so good in this...
Love you bizz natch~ 🫶🖤💛🐍
You have the coolest art compositions in KagePro
Also DMM region locking who can view the previews to JP only users??? Bruh... Ig I can use a VPN later
KuroEne/KonoEne: daze MV Outfit Charms 🖤💛💙
Sidu's Artbook Scans Credit: @/ayara-resara
Mekakushi Dan (and Secondary Charas) Concept Arts by Sidu
Takane, Haruka, Konoha, and Kuroha Concept Arts by Sidu
Sidu's Artbook Scans Credit: @/ayara-resara
Takane/Ene and her bfs. All three of them 🥰🖤💛💙
NOT RIGHT NOW BUT JUST WAIT UNTIL I EDIT KUROENE NEXT TO EACH OTHER... 🙏💘💞
My ship logic is that I don't need my ships to be canon to be king 👑
I know what they are in my heart 🫶💗
Also looks like concept art Ene had one thigh high longer than the other? They're symmetrical (black thigh highs with a blue dot and line) in her current/finalized design
Kuroha's Concept Art by Sidu (My Edit)
I did a quick edit of OP's scans and edited Kuroha's clothes just for fun
I also edited out the note Sidu made that marked the height of Kido's older sister, Rin, who is 165 cm
Takane/Ene = 157 cm (5'1") Haruka, Konoha, and Kuroha/Saeru = 182 cm (6'0")
It was a manual edit I did using CSP's Copy Stamp tool
You can select an area and copy the pattern to do touch ups. It works great.
Depending on the art, Kuroha's either drawn with all black colours that are the same colour, or black outer clothes and a collar, inner shirt, and boots that are a darker black.
I personally prefer the 2nd (with the inner clothes and his collar and boots being darker) cuz it adds more visual contrast to his design, which uses mainly black, gray, and yellow colours.
KagePro Playing Cards: Upscaled Versions (My Edits)
Upon further inspection, I looked at the Kuroha Joker card PFP icons and saw that it must've been from the DMM image preview cuz there was still a bit of the grain/pixelated-ness, just blurred
So I think I know what they did. They upscaled the image so that it gets the image in higher resolution. It blurs the lines subtly, but it reduces noise (smooths out the grain/pixels on the image). It must be the same method that manga scanners use to upscale manga.
Ok, I got it now 👍
Kuroha Joker Card (Upscaled Version) 1160 x 1160 px (OG) -> 2320 x 2320 px (Upscaled)
I made a Google Drive folder to put my KagePro resources (upscaled versions, edits, eventual scans) in that my mutuals can have access to! I'll be cross-posting it to my socials.
I also upscaled more arts! You can check it out in the KagePro Drive folder. Link is at the very top.
#kagepro#kagerou project#kuroha#ene#konoha#kokonose haruka#haruka#dark konoha#black konoha#me ga saeru hebi#snake of clearing eyes#saeru#saeru hebi#enomoto takane#takane enomoto#haruka kokonose#kuroene#konoene#kuroha x ene#dark konoha x ene#black konoha x ene#saeru x ene#saeene#sen's rambles
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Kagepro theories / random analysis / questions of sorts?
so, funny things seem to happen when you directly compare [play at the same time against each other] the music videos for - Otsukimi Recital [of all songs] and - Outer Science ... while trying to find more Outer Science parallels ..... ... and then compare those findings to other things too ..... [bonus: some novel 8 spoiler bits from recent translations] [ even if this ends up being totally false maybe consider it like a fic that wrote itself? (hhhha) ] [ but seriously please try comparing the two videos by playing them at the exact same time against each other, some parts time up timing wise surprisingly well! ] [ also it’s very amusing ] [ also includes some “Additional Memory” arc from Manga Route analysis ]
ok so if you weren’t here for Outer Science’s release in the past, this happened at one point: [spurring off a series where everyone tried to catch more parallels]:
..... (and so on) ..... uhhhhh “[this] is the real thing!” - “Kagerou” in Wannyanpuu’s KageDaze pv [TOO] (also in original KageDaze’s song lyrics still) (UHHHHHHH) naturally, I recently was reminded of it [in the year 2k18 at that] and thought, “hey, did anyone ever directly compare Otsukimi Recital too? i didn’t have any caps from it in my archives just thematic parallels--” and well um [disclaimer: most of this is just for fun ok] [ but also to try and connect together thematic parallels if indirectly ] [ Outer Science re-translation from Kagepro wiki ] [ CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR ALL MAJOR ROUTES ] [ skip to the end for more important Routes questions! ]
[^ opening: Momo pan-up, Saeru pan-up] [ ^ Momo’s eyes flashing red as she points to the viewer, Outer Science intro ]
[^ oh hey (the one on right flashes by very fast too)]
[^ “...Daze you too”] [”hey, you (prayed too, right?)” -Saeru]
[^ also just before Momo’s “nee!” face at the exact moment Saeru says “nee”] (that’s more of a fun timing thing though)
[^”young master”] [similar mouth placements...] [”it’s pointless” -Hibiya, and also Kagerou in old fanmade [but later Kagepro artist though] Wannyanpuu versions] / [”it’s (an unpleasant) story” -”Azami”]
[^ compared better to young Seto in Shounen Brave up there but]
(a bit earlier) [^the wires?] [there are a lot of TVs in certain Music Route songs ....] [^”(just saying supportive things) wasn’t going to cut it” as Konoha flashes by]
[^ hmmm] .....
[^ ok but what if Momo DID know more than she’s letting on] [or later on, too]
[^ all of them flash by in these and related parts but]
[^ ”...go together”]
[^ HIBIYA NO]
[^”(Legends, life, and even people’s fate)”] [^ oh hi cat] [still a KageDaze reference]
[^ disclaimer: I am not writing these ok. it does it itself] [”...(And inadvertently falling in love, too)...” - right side]
[^ THIS ENTIRE SECTION LINES UP TIMING WISE PRETTY CLOSELY] [ PARALLELS WITHIN PARALLELS (ON THE LEFT SIDE TOO) ] [ Hibiya’s FACE there ] [”(Such stupid things.)” -Saeru] [”i don’t even know what’s going on...” -Hibiya] [“(Ah, how difficult, what a challenge, I can’t stand it)” -Saeru]
[”*(Embedding in those eyes)”] [ ... the soda hits Hibiya in the eyes literally right then ] (maybe more fun but wow timing)
[”the power to combine the eyes together...”] [...?] (oh hi Mary) ( they DO need Focusing Eyes too ..... )
[^ Momo WATCH OUT]
[^ I mean literally] [ PARALLELS WITHIN PARALLELS WITHIN ] [’sobbing ”I don’t want this!”’] [”(You knew it, right? That's fate)” -Saeru]
[^ he obviously wouldn’t want this to happen to Konoha either ok] [ much less the rest ] [^ in Otsukimi Recital he’s also having Hiyori flashbacks here] [”(first tragedy)”]
[”I wanted us to be together” -Hibiya] [ ... uh oh]
[^ Momo: must help Hibiya get FOCUSING EYES] [^“Outer Science”] (RIGHT HERE) [ in between during Otsukimi Recital interlude: Outer Science deaths, including Saeru pushing Hibiya in front of truck, like so ]
[ bonus: the street light in between flashing as Seto particularly dies too ] [ maybe related .... ]
[”(No matter how many times you deny it This foolish life you're living)” -Saeru] (.... ok seriously, this comparing aside, Saeru’s watching them?) (is that also why there’s so many TVs that pop up in Music Route videos?) (certain novel 8 spoilers too seem to indicate similar things) (also especially in some particular songs ... [see below for more on that])
[”(No matter how many times you just cry)” -Saeru]
[^ RIGHT AS HER EYES FLASH RED] [ the right side flashes by very fast reds too ] (tw epilepsy if you compare um) [^ same timing though]
["( You asked for too much and now serve to sin)” -Saeru] (ok but if it was said to Mary AND Hibiya ..... it’d fit)
[^ ending smirks/grins] [^ video ending on Otsukimi side with Momo grabbing Hibiya to pull him along]
[ ..... ok all that for fun stuff aside ] [but then I was reading Hibiya bits from novel 8 and TAKANE / ENE NO] [ DON’T GIVE HIM IDEAS TAKANE / ENE NO ]
.... ........ ........... ..... .. .
it was “MOMO’S PHONE”
- OK BUT WHY DOESN’T HE HAVE THE PHONE IN MOST MAIN TIMELINES - LITERALLY HE WAS ALMOST ALWAYS TRYING TO BUY A PHONE - LITERALLY THE FREAKING PHONE
[”i’ll do it!” -Hibiya]
[”the next next next”] [”(Let’s ridicule it!)” -Saeru]
^ “Kagerou” Hibiya, from the old Wannyanpuu fan pv
[”continue?”] [“yes”]
[ ... and after Saeru!Hibiya kills Momo ..... ]
BONUS:
[ is ... is Saeru holding Momo in Outer Science too ..... ? ]
(or if it’s not Momo, Shintaro maybe? either way) (Momo still dies by Saeru!Hibiya in Manga Route)
(BONUS THE NTH: MY TAGS FROM WAY BACK THEN EVEN:) “#... #Momo...?”
more of a fun bonus (i’m sorry) (don’t take this one seriously)
(”WELCOME TO MY WOMB” [mis?]translation)
THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS REGARDLESS OF PARALLELS OR LACK OF BEING:
WILL HIBIYA STILL CHANGE THE TIMELINES / GO PSUEDO-“DARK” (EVEN IF HE’S NOT THE “HEAT HAZE” SPECIFICALLY BUT SIMILAR) [ or like unintentionally corrupted Hibiya in a way ]
WILL HIBIYA WAKE UP NEXT ROUTE HOLDING [MOMO’S?] THE FREAKING PHONE [ IN THE PAST WE ALL THOUGHT IT’D BE HIS OWN PHONE BUT ]
- WHAT WILL HE REMEMBER (.... OR NOT) [ because even if he WAS he might not remember everything / not intentional ] - WHO DIES FIRST (HIYORI OR HIBIYA) - WHO GETS FOCUSING EYES (HIYORI OR HIBIYA) - DOES KONOHA TRY TO SAVE HIYORI OR HIBIYA FIRST OR BOTH - WHAT WILL MANGA ROUTE NEW FORM SAERU DO IN BETWEEN - (NOW THAT HE LACKS ‘KUROHA’S FORM ?) - IS THE LOST TIME MEMORY SCENE WHERE SHINTARO SAVES KUROHA AND OR KONOHA / HARUKA FROM BEING KILLED STILL IMPORTANT TOO (I’M BETTING IT IS) - ARE THERE ANY POTENTIAL ROUTES AT ALL WHERE MEKAKUSHI TRIO DON’T KNOW EACH OTHER PRIOR TO AYANO’S THEORY OF HAPPINESS [YES] (SEE: The Deceiving [novel 5], young Kano meeting young Ayano at the playground BEFORE he dies and enters the Daze / by being stabbed when still young) (SEE: Shounen Brave possibly ? ??, the period of time in between Seto drowning before he eventually revives and winds up at the orphanage (later on); later [or possibly BEFORE that in some spinoff Route[s]?] meeting Mary) (this goes for all three members of the Trio by the way, ‘that time they died before they all met Ayano / Tateyamas’ because yes this is what messes up Mekakushi Trio dynamics and can change with every route) - IS NEW ALBUM A NEW ROUTE OR IS IT PART OF CURRENT MUSIC ROUTE CONTINUED [FORMER SEEMS LIKELY] - IS MEKAKUCITY RELOAD (WHEN IT HAPPENS TOO) A NEW ROUTE OR IS IT PART OF ANIME ROUTE CONTINUED [THE FORMER SEEMS LIKELY] - WILL ANYTHING ELSE BE ANNOUNCED COME AUGUST 15TH [LIKELY] - WAS MOMO [AND/OR KONOHA AND REST] A CATALYST EITHER WAY (IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS STILL HAPPENS) - IS MANGA ROUTE / NEW FORM SAERU DOING THINGS ON HIS OWN IN GENERAL [MAYBE?] - WHO ELSE IS IN ON THIS IF IT’S EVEN AT ALL A POSSIBILITY STILL (BECAUSE I’M HIGHLY SUSPECTING - MARY [RESETS .... ] - SETO [MAYBE] [IF HELPING MARY] [looks at novels volume 8 summaries] - HIYORI [OBVIOUSLY] - A Y A N O)
LITERALLY AYANO LITERALLY TALKS TO HIBIYA IN THE DAZE [IN NOVELS, MANGA KIND OF?, AND MCA TOO]
AYANO YOU COULD HAVE TOLD HIM ABOUT THE FREAKING PHONE !!!
BONUS THE NTH (MORE...): - Otsukimi Recital is like an “Extra Edition” type of song - Shounen Brave is/was “Episode ?” - other episode ?s: Shinigami Record, Dead and Seek [Kenjirou, also Saeru], Ene’s Cyber Journey [Route XX Ene?] - other extra edition type songs: Toumei Answer [Ayano & Shintaro], Yuukei Yesterday [Haruka & Takane], Yobanashi Deceive [Kano]* is technically listed but isn’t included in the main/first Music Route, neither was Toumei Answer?, Ayano’s Theory of Happiness*, Otsukimi Recital* ..... .... because maybe they are “interfering with the Routes” type songs ?
BONUSES THE NTH (AGAIN): - we’re confirmed to [eventually] be getting an “Additional Memory” song [note that’s the title for the Saeru!Hibiya involved mini-arc in Manga Route] [even if it doesn’t center completely on Hibiya, well....]
a bit from ‘Additional Memory’ (I)? summary:
Ayano asked when the snake entered Hibiya’s body, to which he answered from the very start, long before he killed “Concealing Eyes” and met Ayano. He continued that this body was a “miss”. It was good that the boy who didn’t have any wish began to have a desire to “save the girl”, but it was a little bit immature. Regardless that the snake was a being that eats up “desire”, that wish causes him a sour stomach. “[LONG BEFORE HIBIYA (&SAERU)] [MET AYANO]”
^ “THE BOY WHO DIDN’T HAVE ANY WISH”
^ “A DESIRE” TO “SAVE THE GIRL”
^ ok but why the HECK would it be “IMMATURE” if Hibiya ALWAYS WANTED TO SAVE HIYORI FROM THE START and WHAT DOES SAERU MEAN “DIDN’T HAVE ANY WISH”
..... unless .....
... if SAVING HIYORI alone isn’t a strong enough wish ......
... and in the beginning of some routes SAVE HIYORI alone wasn’t his wish .....
what if it eventually [slowly] becomes [over time] “SAVE MOMO [TOO]”, “SAVE KONOHA [TOO]”, “SAVE EVERYONE [TOO]”
(some Saeru somewhere, probably: “oh, NOW his wish is strong enough”) (mangaverse New Form Saeru: [takes advantage of all of this])
a bit from ‘Additional Memory II’ summary:
Ayano questioned the snake: “You can’t do anything without using Hibiya-kun’s body right?.” Then suddenly, Hibiya regained his self consciousness, asking if Hiyori was alright!? He seemed very happy to see Hiyori. He was very worried that he could never meet her again… Then he was shocked to see the situation and tried to break out of Konoha’s hold. The snake used that chance to break out of the window, of course without forgetting to smirk at the kids: “Didn’t say I no one can stop this anymore?."
..... [later]
Hiyori finally reached their place, just to see Hibiya cry and say "I’m sorry” right before her eyes. http://fuyuyuu.tumblr.com/post/167573767600/
..... i’m done (sorry)
#kagecrack#outer science#kagepro: theories#kagepro theme: comparisons#hibiya amamiya#kagerou#saeru#momo kisaragi#konoha#hiyori asahina#saeru hibiya#(ayano tateyama)#(mary kozakura)#(kousuke seto)#otsukimi recital#hibimomo#(...maaaaybe)#(not intentionally ok)#(maybe unrequited because loops?)#hibihiyo#(that too)#(anyway if you want to skip all that above go to the end for more important things)#(LIKE WHAT CAN HAPPEN NEXT ROUTE AND IN WHICH ORDERS)#(i'll have to do that in Konoha's State of the World parallels postings though since they relate more to that)#(but yeah Ayano why Ayano literally why you HAVE to have known about at least some of those things)#(basically 'what are the common elements to each route concerning Hibiya and or Hiyori')#(AND HOW DO THEY CHANGE WITH EACH ROUTE)#(anyway i'm sorry drops Hibiya theories every two years or so until I disappear into the void again at least until August 15th)#(there's some other things to pay attention to too .... also I want to re compare Outer Science to like. everything again)#(... will i regret this. the answer is 'yes')
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#kagerou project#mekakucity actors#kagerou days#kagerou daze#hibiya amamiya#kagerou#kagerou!hibiya#wannyanpuus kagedaze#hiyori asahina#kagepro theme: comparisons#kagepro x wannyanpuu#(i know wannyanpuu's is not completely canon nor kagerou anymore just)#(b y e i am gone still)#(the framing looks similar to me!!!!)#(also right after that kagerou moment hiyori looks like that too)#(i might be imagining things but!!!)#(and jin made kuroha look similar to kagerou in that outer science once too remember)#(the waving hand scene)#(when he pushed hibiya in front of the truck b y e)#death //#blood //#post
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Kagerou Project References ~ The “ Artificial City ” ?? ? + Kagerou Project Locations + “ The Forest ” [ 1st Manga Route / Manga Route 1 ]
- “ SOUZOU ” ( “ Imagination ” ) Forest chaper - NOT “ KUUSOU ” (“ FANTASY ”)
“ It feels like they JUST
BUILT A THEME PARK
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOREST ”
“ That’s what KANO said ! ”
FRIENDLY REMINDER:
- SAERU ( CLEARING EYES ) IS IN CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE CITY
#kagepro#souzou forest#kuusou forest#fantasy forest#kagepro: refs#kagepro: locations#kagepro: keywords#kagepro: manga route 1#kagepro: theories#fuckyeahkagepro theories#fuckyeahkagepro posts#fuckyeahkagepro comparisons#kano refs#kano tls#the forest#the artificial city#the city#('IT FEELS LIKE THEY' 'JUST' 'BUILT' 'A THEME PARK' 'RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF' 'THE FOREST' 'THAT'S WHAT' 'K A N O' 'SAID!')#(FRIENDLY REMINDER)#(FRIENDLY REMINDER FRIENDLY REMINDER FRIENDLY REMINDER)#(WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE CITY)#(W H O. WHO. WHO DO I KEEP POINTING OUT WHOOOOO)#(MEANWHILE KANO. 'YOU'RE THE' 'DECEIVER' 'FROM THAT TIME' 'AREN'T YOU?')#(DUN DUN DUNNNNN)#(I HATE JIN)#(THIS WAS MANGA ROUTE 1)#(MANGA ROUTE 1 !!!!!)#(DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG AGO THIS WAS WHEN IT WAS NEW!!!!!)#(2013 ERA! 2013 ERA 2013 E R A i've. been here too long)
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Kagerou Project Comparisons -> Lyrics/Quotes -> “cliche”s “This ‘wish’’s end I won’t let it end by something that cliche’d!!” - Snake of Clearing Eyes - Imaginary Reload IV, Manga Route 2 [2018] [bolded emphasis mine] “ In this kind of clichéd story, There must only be one ending. ” - lyrics of Kagerou Daze, a song from Hibiya Amamiya’s POV [2011]
#kagerou project#saeru#snake of clearing eyes#hibiya amamiya#amamiya hibiya#kagepro: comparisons#kagepro lyrics: comparisons#kagepro: refs#saeru tls#saeru quotes#saeru refs#hibiya quotes#hibiya tls#hibiya refs#cliches#(HEY SO I'M ALSO SCREAMING BECAUSE THIS RECURRING THEME)#(THERE IS NO WAY THAT LINE IS A COINCIDENCE)#(SORRY JIN I'M ONTO YOU)#(ESPECIALLY AFTER MANGA ROUTE 2 HIBIYA)#(SERIOUSLY IF THIS ISN'T ALLUDED TO MORE NEXT ROUTE)#(FRIENDLY REMINDER)#(IN WANNYANPUU'S FAN PV THIS IS LITERALLY)#(RIGHT BEFORE HIBIYA CHANGES THE TIMELINE)#(TO SAVE HIYORI)#(AND EVEN IF WANNYANPUU'S WAS NON CANON)#(JIN'S SONG IS STILL CANON AND still can imply a LOT of things with those lyrics YEAH)#(I'M ALSO SCREAMING BC SAERU'S HESITATION IS PRETTY MUCH)#(A DIRECT PARALLEL TO KAGEROU!HIBIYA AT THE END OF WANNYANPUU'S PV)#(or maybe not direct but wow that sure was some 'unusual' hesitation going on there)#(''unusual'' ''unusual'' me rewatching Wannyanpuu's pv for the n amount of times 'yeah no')
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more Kagepro comparisons
another observation re: My Funny Weekend compared against Otsukimi Recital the entire “like a child” segment happens when Hibiya is crying over Hiyori (also + the part where he’s reaching out for her leading to this, specifically)
I’ve always just wanted to live “Like myself”. “Cheerfully” at first, but then “unwilling to give up”,
#kagerou project#kagepro#my funny weekend#kagepro: comparisons#kagepro: timing comparisons#kagepro: refs#hibiya refs#(I HAET JIN AND SIDU)#(H A E T)#('unwilling to give up')#(as Hibiya is giving up 'haha' - Jin)#(though it can also relate to the 'like a child' segment definitely bc later he doesn't want to give up huh)#(I WANNA DO THIS VIDEO GDI)#(if anything it's really interesting for analyzing and comparisons of lyrics themes etc.)#hibiya amamiya
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Kagerou Days (Nico Nico 50 person Chorus ver.) [2011] + Mekakucity Actors 04 [2014] + very brief bits of Wannyanpuu’s Kagerou Days PV [2011], Children Record [2012], Outer Science [2013], Otsukimi Recital [2013]
Mekakucity Actors #04 amv by me, originally posted not long after MCA #04 first aired (2014 Kagepro fandom era)
IN CASE YOU ARE STILL CONFUSED BY MCA #04′S SEQUENCE OF EVENTS FOR THE “KAGEROU DAZE” SONG PLS COMPARE THESE MCA #04 COMPARISONS SHOTS TO WANNYANPUU’S OLD FANMADE PV [2011] AND YOU’LL HOPEFULLY? UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBLE / POTENTIAL THEMES/CONCEPTS A LOT BETTER Wannyanpuu’s version is technically non-canon but THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF COMPARISONS TO BE HAD OK and WHO KNOWS how much of Wannyanpuu’s original ideas Jin chose to incorporate into the series it’s not like Wannyanpuu designed the short haired Hiyori first you know
FEEL FREE to use this for COMPARISONS / ANALYSIS / THEORIES TOO BC I LOVE KAGEDAZE + ORIGINAL!HIBIYA + HIYORI THEORIES OK
... ... ALSO CAN WE LIKE PLS RECOGNIZE HIBIYA + HIYORI’S CHARACTER DEVELOPMENTS BOTH AS INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERS AND WITH EACH OTHER + OTHERS AND GIVE BOTH OF THEM MORE LOVE / PROTECT THEM BOTH
I’M VERY TIRED WHENEVER I SEE HIYO OR HIBI HATE NEITHER DESERVE IT TY
I MEAN PLS JUST WATCH THE AMV AND/OR REWATCH MCA #04 BC I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ALL PROBABLY JUST HAVEN’T WATCHED MCA 04 OR KAGEROU DAZE’S ORIGINAL PV BY SIDU SINCE 2012-2014 IT’S OK WE CAN FORGET OVER TIME BUT SERIOUSLY
(ALL THAT SAID aha my original amv is below!!)
please open the links on Youtube to expand the video size if preferred! * I did kind of insert some original theories of mine back then that maybe didn’t / won’t / or haven’t become canon yet (for example the Kano scene - that turned out to be Novels Route only - though I actually never thought it was only him acting as the cat anyhow but yeah) and also re: Saeru (Clearing Eyes) but still I TRIED with comparisons overall ok * there was ONE scene I edited where I flipped it to mirror Hiyori during the second verse (second repeat of “I really hate summer”) because it was only animated once but yeah
* the interlude voice-acting of Wannyanpuu’s version was done in the 50 Person Chorus NicoNico version and also isn’t canon BUT it can be counted as Japanese fandom’s interpretations circa 2011
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On August 15th, 12:30 in the afternoon, The weather was incredibly nice And amidst the sickening rays of the dazzling sun I spoke with you, for I had nothing else to do "Well, y’know, I kind of hate summer", You boldly murmured while petting a cat Ah, you pursued that cat as it ran away from you And what jumped out Was the traffic light that changed to a glaring red Suddenly, a truck came out of nowhere and struck you as you screamed Your scent, now mingled with sprayed blood, choked me In the haze of lies, the haze of heat laughed, "This is all real!" With that, like a cricket’s sound being disturbed, the light blue of summer darkened away I woke up upon my bed to the sound of a ticking clock What time is it now? On August 14th, sometime past 12 in the morning I recalled the sound of an awfully annoying cricket But, y’know, it’s a little strange. Yesterday, in a dream, I saw us walking in this same exact park "Why don’t we go home now?" The second you stepped off the pathway, everyone surrounding us Turned their heads up to the sky and opened their mouths From the sky, down dropped an iron pole That pierced your body straight through The sound of wind-chimes and your ripping screams filled the spaces between the park trees In this unnatural scene, The shimmering heat laughed, "This is the real thing!" As my vision blurred away, I glanced at your profile, and thought I saw you smiling Countless times have had me black out In the laughing heat like this
This cycle has repeated for decade s
I realized that a long time ago
In this kind of clichéd story, There must only be one ending. Beyond this repeating summer day, it has to exist. Suddenly, I pushed you aside and jumped into the street; At that moment, the truck slammed into me Your eyes and my twisted body were like hazy reflections of the blood that sprayed everywhere If that praiseful heat haze laughed, “Serves you right!” again Then this would be what you’d call a normal summer day. But all of that ended today. On August 14th, a girl awoke upon her bed And she said, "I failed this time, too..." as she cradled a single cat.
#kagerou daze#kagerou days#hibiya amamiya#hiyori asahina#hibihiyo#wannyanpuus kagedaze: comparisons#wannyanpuus kagedaze#mca: comparisons#mca 04: comparisons#fuckyeahkagepro posts#fuckyeahkagepro amvs#fuckyeahkagepro tag rambles#fuckyeahkagepro theories#fuckyeahkagepro rambles#mekakucity actors#('WANNYANPUU CONTRIBUTED NOTHING' you cry)#('HIBIYA AND HIYORI ARE BAD CHARACTERS' you cry)#('HIBIYA AND HIYORI ADDED NOTHING TO THE PLOT AND ARE THE LEAST RELEVANT CHARACTERS' you cry)#(ME HOLDING MY HEAD AND WAVING WILDLY AT MCA 04 'SERIOUSLY')#('HIYORI TOTALLY HATED HIBIYA' you cry)#(meanwhile ME 'SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDUP OF CROWS ADDITIONAL POLES IN PARK SIGNPOSTS FROM KNSJ THE SKY TURNING DARKER RED')#(ETC. ETC. ETC. YEAH THOSE WERE THERE REMINDERS even WANNYANPUUS' PV had the crows on the wires)#(.... ANYWAY THAT SAID ahaaaa most of you likely remember this thing BUT IN CASE SINCE THEN and also bc tumblr removed the old one's post ;;
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Kagerou Project Theories? + Comparisons/AMV (Anime Music Video) -> (featuring characters: Hibiya Amamiya, Konoha, & Hiyori Asahina) (w/cameos from: Momo Kisaragi, “Kuroha” [Clearing Eyes/Saeru]) (+a tiny bit of Wannyanpuu’s fanmade “Kagerou” / Heat Haze!Hibiya+Hiyoris) (Kenjirou Tateyama and Azami{?} also appear for brief moments in the original) Kagepro official artist Wannyanpuu’s fanmade/non-canon Kagerou Daze pv x Konoha no Sekai Jijou [Konoha’s State of the World] official pv [Music Route] + smaller bits from: - Headphone Actor official pv [Music Route] - Children Record official pv [Music Route “Opening Video”] - Outer Science official pv [Music Route] - Mekakucity Actors Episodes 2, 4 & 7 [MCA Route] (+Momo scenes) - Manga Route 2 - “Additional Memory” related chapters (*“Additional Memory” {at time was} also an upcoming new* Kagepro song!!) * - at the time I originally made this work, “Additional Memory” PV had yet to debut
(More details under the ‘read more’!) {Including my original commentary}
[+ thank you @kikithedeceiver for allowing me usage of your manga scans !! ]
bonuses:
(^ literal half-seconds flash Hibiya from the “Daze” lyrics pv)
(^ Children Record: Hibiya scene transitioning into a “Kuroha” [Saeru] scene)
(^ Children Record: Hibiya + Kenjirou Tateyama’s silhouette in the background) plus compare the facts that: 1) if Mary + the Dan “stops” Saeru, they’re “saved”. but the Daze...?? ??? 2) if Saeru “dies” [in any form] UNLESS THEY ALSO STOP “THE DAZE” HE’D BASICALLY BE TAKING THE ENTIRE WORLD + THEM WITH HIM BECAUSE MARY [A PART-IMMORTAL MEDUSA WHO WILL OUTLIVE ALL HER FRIENDS] CAN’T “RESET” / “RELOAD” THE TIME WITHOUT SAERU’S “HELP” (a bit more comparing under the read more!)
(^ maybe unrelated but) (“Mary’s Imaginary World” mini-chapter 9.5 [from near-end Manga Route 1?]) (*note the Snake of Clearing Eyes’ completely shocked face) ([spoiler: it was a dream (of Mary’s).])
(^ also compare to the scenes in the amv/manga w/Hiyori covering her mouth.) Kagerou + crying Kagerou’s:
(this one too:)
(^ Otsukimi Recital pv [Music Route], which Wannyanpuu also worked on) (*Hibiya’s hood vs Kagerou’s hood + crying Kagerou’s) (+compare basically everything in it yeah? yeah)
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( ^ that ending totally did not mean anything. nope. nuh uh. ) (I mean seriously)
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(^ “Days”, the ending video/theme for MCA. Note the KNSJ scene that compares [Hibiya and Hiyori sleeping against each other in the TRUCK. +NOT subway {as in M.C.A}])
(^ this scene.) (+ compare to MCA 07′s “Konoha’s State of the World” scenes as amv shows)
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(^ “Lost Time Memory”, a very particular scene where “Kuroha” / Saeru ? (Konoha? either depending on timelines?) ??? [tbh we still legit don’t know if it was Konoha or Saeru for sure] ... attempts suicide [but is saved by Shintaro.].) also compare: - basically every single scene of Hibiya + Hiyori + these related characters in Novels Route (+Novel 8, “Summertime Reload”) + Manga Routes 1+2 + MCA
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(^ “Mary’s Imaginary World.”) [Mary no Kakuu Sekai] (aka by the translation: “Mary’s Fictional World”) bonus the bonus: [near-end of Manga Route 1]
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( ”the swaying heat haze [kagerou] was standing awfully close.” ) ( ^ “he just stood there” ) (“as if trying to get in the way between you and me”)-- -- Kagerou Days I (Novels Route; Hibiya’s POV)
( ^ totally coincidental framing, everyone. totally coincidental--) (“there is no such thing as coincidence in this world, there is only [hitsuzen] (the inevitable)” -- THANKS CLAMP SERIES) bonus the nth: [Manga Route 2 new form Saeru] (merch version but): (note his skin’s color schemes):
( ^ “COINCIDENTAL” )
bonus the ???: “beta!Konoha” (also: “Grey Konoha”) was originally designed as a girl:
- and was changed to a boy - either of these facts - regardless of all of this series’ plot points concerning these characters [ +any related characters ] ( ..... I’ll let you come up with your own ideas )
#kagerou project#kagerou daze#hibiya amamiya#kuroha#snake of clearing eyes#kagepro: theories#kagepro: comparisons#kagepro: amv#fuckyeahkagepro posts#fuckyeahkagepro amvs#kagepro: music route#kagepro: manga route#kagepro: mca route#kagepro: novels route#kagepro: refs#kagerou#momo kisaragi#hiyori asahina#konoha#saeru#(AM I MAKING ANY SENSE AT ALL WITH THESE COMPARISONS GUYS)#(THEY'VE BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR YEARS SOBS)#(literally the ONE line of KNSJ that still confuses me too is)#('PULLING ME OUT FROM THIS MECHANISED WORLD INTO A FUTURE LANDSCAPE OF FALLING LEAVES')#('WITH YOUR EYES' STRAIGHT FLASH TO HIBIYA'S EYES EXCEPT IT'S KONOHA'S POV NOT HIYORI'S)#(but then HIYORI got Hibiya's eye power instead so)#(IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE KONOHA CAN SWITCH HIS EYE POWER WITH HIBIYA'S SOMEHOW)#(me @ this series: literally why it's been 6+ years JUST .... ANSWERS ..... PLEASE)#(I still haven't gotten to some other Novels Route specific moments)#(this is mainly rambling btw bc @THIS SERIES W H Y)
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