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Chapter 60: Misogyny triumphs; something something Flaming Mountain
Well, this chapter was pretty much a misogynist’s fantasy.
I’m not going to spell it out. I trust that everyone here has the capacity to see it for themselves if they want to. So let me express my feelings about this chapter thus:
If you need some brain bleach after that chapter, may I recommend one of Jung Chang’s books, or maybe watching a documentary about Nushu, the secret written language created by Chinese women for women only.
Baaaaai! See you next week!
@journeythroughjourneytothewest
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I'm sorry for asking but I have to ask,
Who do you think is worst
The selfshippers
Or shadowpeach shippers??
Hmmmm gonna be honest anon this sounds like the kind of question that could easily start unnecessarily shit, and at least as far as I'm aware neither group of shippers have done the kinds of genuinely hateful stuff I've seen other shipping communities do like be virulently racist against real people. I definitely DO think that a more general awareness of things like how harmful stereotypes and cultural hang-ups can easily perpetuate themselves in and even though fiction is warranted (i.e. the feminization/fetishization of Asian men, the predatory gay man trope, the 'i can fix him!' mentality, etc.), but that's more a conversation about general cultural/fandom trends.
SO while saying that I feel I've sufficiently covered what I find annoying about these specific ships in other posts and may want to complain about them more in the future (sometimes i <3 being a hater), it should be noted again that Sun Wukong has been flanderized to hell and back in both the east and west (actually just got some tags about how many eastern creators make the Monkey King a straight-up evil monster, although at least there there is a vast variety of widespread monkey king interpretations and jttw retellings rather than the monoculture we got in the west lmao), and while I understand that fandom is a place where people just want to have fun with their special guys, overall both shipping trends just read to me at this point as the kind of repetition of the exact same increasingly tiresome tropes you find dominating basically every other fandom out there.
#anon answered#though i will say shadowpeach makes me a lot more uncomfortable than selfshippers#on account of the whole 'that's literally his evil twin' thing lol#like yes yes i know people rewrite backgrounds#and i continue to wonder how many people in the west are aware of the true & false monkey king arc#but cmon of all the guys in jttw that you could ship the monkey king with#why'd it have to be the dude who either literally is a part of him or who gave up his identity in a murder/replace attempt?#idk#just continues to be bizarre to me how hellbent western creators seem to be in completely rewriting/ignoring the classic six eared macaque
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JTTW Ep. #32 is out! In this episode @j_maraan and @sen_tient breaks down issues affecting Asian feminism, encourages a more action oriented and proactive feminism, and stresses the importance of building a united Asian community that can demand change. https://bit.ly/2Od4wZj #ProAsian #AsianLove #AsianFeminism #Feminism #ProAsianVoice #AsianAmerican #praisintheasian #asian #asiandiaspora https://www.instagram.com/p/Bpdu28hg91Z/?utm_source=ig_tumblr_share&igshid=qhfkeug65zut
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To read or not to read?
Alright. Well, here I am again.
I stopped writing at chapter 60 because of the level of misogyny in JTTW. Don't get me wrong - I wasn't expecting a work of literature this old to be a shining example of respect and equality. But the level of misogyny I've seen in the book so far has been well beyond what I expected, and smuttier. Women seem to feature mostly as borderline porno plot points.
I'm still not sure that I want to subject my brain to a weekly drip-feed of this level of sexism. Also, I'm not exposed to many other sources of Chinese culture on a regular basis, and I really don't want something this chauvinistic to be my main impression of Chinese culture week after week.
Nor do I want to lose time being reactive and calling out the chauvinism week after week. Sure, there can be a point to dissecting stuff and calling it out. But I don't want to it to chew up too much of my time or energy. Besides, if all I wanted to do is to spend my life reacting to pigs, I'd hardly need to read JTTW.
So why am I back? Well, the universe seemed to be calling me back to it. And by 'universe', I mean 'social media'. Ie I saw this and this.
In all seriousness, though, I guess JTTW just kept tickling at the back of my mind. My original reasons for wanting to read it still stand. I want to learn more about Chinese culture, and JTTW is so ubiquitous. And, at the risk of stating the obvious, JTTW is awesome. I connect with it in a way that I just haven't with Romance of the Three Kingdoms (I'm not big into battles or politics) or The Water Margin (which I can see myself loving; it's just not JTTW).
I figure I'll take it chapter by chapter and see if I can engage with it without doing collateral damage to my brain. I doubt it, but let's see.
Failing that, I'll sit back and see what John Zhu does with it. I'm hoping he'll provide a bit of a buffer against the more misogynistic aspects of the book while still providing a fairly traditional account of it.
Alright. I'd better get reading and writing.
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