#jon english

[consilio-cameos]

some random moments from Paris the musical

Agamemnon : no need to rant or shouts Patroclus : *shouting* who's shouting?!

Paris : ooh sweet aphrodite Helen : *really deep sigh* can you just shut up and listen?

Ajax : I vote for Ulysses! Ulysse : Oh no. Ulysse : you really shouldn't

Agamemnon : *rolls the dice* Agamemenon : Eleven! Patroclus : that's a fucking d10

*returning to Troy* Priam : welcome home son, how well was the simple mission i entrusted you with? Paris : haha funny story Aeneas : he fucked up real bad (the whole song is so funny)

Paris : *singing dramatically his inspiring ballad What Could Go Wrong* in the background : *Aeneas and the crew screaming his pretty ass to come down for 2 WHOLE MINUTES* Paris : don't worry, what could go wrong haha :) *falls immediately after*

Agamemnon : we need to find a fool… YOU, you are perfect Sinon : *drunk* wat? Sinon : Thank you, Oh thank you. Aren't you a good murderer :/ Sinon : well if i die, i will do it in style *start a silly musical number* (Sinon is the second most hated character after Paris TvT)

*at the end of the war* Paris : I think the gods must be angry with me

[junessquill]

"I've learned my lesson 😝" and it's his first solo song and the third track in a 2 hour and 11 minute long musical soundtrack

[doyouknowthismusical]

[hauntedcoyote]

Hollywood Seven - Jon English

[mitjalovse]

A couple of the Australian rock musicians are like their peers outside. Sebastian Hardie, for instance, could've been on a tour with Mike Oldfield and Steve Winwood's Go, yet their reach didn't go much beyond Australia. Sadly, one might add as the band managed to combine the British version of progressive rock with the American one. Still, they sounded closer to the former than the latter, which you can hear on the link. To be honest, Mike Oldfield does feel like the closest comparison to them in the terms of their soundscapes, but they favoured a more progressive rock sound than him. Sure, Oldfield was like the style I mentioned, though his folk rock was more pronounced than anything else, whereas Sebastian Hardie felt closer to, say, Yes than anything else.

[albumswhatilistenedto]

[anxovert]

40 years on and this still gives me chills...

[singinprincess]

To demonstrate how my brain works, I have been watching the old sitcom All Together Now starring Rebecca Gibney and Jon English. And because the theme song has been stuck in my head, I just bought a Jon English album.

[ian0key]

TMA AU ( TimSasha Lives) P.1

Desolation!Tim / & / P.2 -> END!SASHA??

( Fancast -> Manny Jacinto) -> FIRST DESING

P.3 -> S3 final

P.4 -> Jon's kidnapping

P.5 -> GERYYY

P.6 -> Eye-apocalypse

So.... I created an au in which Tim and Sasha survived their respective deaths, but with big consequences.

They turnerd into fears avatars.

Tim became part of desolation after the circus explosion.

He ended up in coma for 4 months, bc at first he refused to be one of the monsters who killed his brother.

But he stayed for Sasha.

Unlike Jon, his body suffered many more damage, doctors said he would definitely die from his wounds, but he didn't.

An extra detail that I would like to add, is that after waking up, someone (Anabelle) sends to him a prosthetic mask, which was clearly inspired by the circus.

Tim set it on fire.

I will publish the design and history of Sasha later, (which gives more context to Tim's history)

(Also,many of his wounds are recovering little by little, thanks to his regeneration and surgeries.)

Extra: ->->-> JONATHAN SIMS

[onceabluemoonthoughts]

Everyone in the bat family is fluent in multiple languages.

And I’m bilingual, so here’s some language blunder moments I’ve had but put through the batfam.

Steph(talking to herself while on sims4): And i can add a scooter there… wait scooter? No it’s a uh… tricycle? No, definitely not… oh my god, the one that hurts on the shins! What’s it called?!

(Looks up ‘the shins hurt thing’. Then edited to ‘the kids toy that hurts shins’ then edited to ‘the kids toy ride thing that hurts shins’ then edited to ‘the kids toy ride wheels that hurts shins’ before finally getting search results not about how to fix shin pain)

(I did do this, today, which is why I am making this post in the first place actually)

Steph: what?! It is called a scooter! I was right the first time!

Dick(getting caught in a lie): I really digged myself a hole didn’t I?

Bruce: Digged? You mean dug. You dug yourself a hole

Dick: Huh? No. I don’t accept that. I’m using digged. Fuck English.

Tim: By the way where’s the uh… (snapping fingers) the uh… oh god what’s it called? The thingy…

Barbara: Just say it in the language you’re thinking. I speak most of the same languages as you by now

Tim: uh… it’s the uh… I don’t know

Barbara: what?

Tim: I forgot the word… in all languages.

Barbara: then I can’t help you.

Jason: oh yea he talks out of his elbows doesn’t he?

Roy(confused): he what?

Jason: talks out of his elbows?

Roy: …

Jason: it’s a saying. Means he talks a lot.

Roy: yea, not an English saying bud.

Jason: … well it should be.

Jon: you’re late

Damian: I am aware. However there was no… I could not see the time because the… uh..

Jon(expecting an excuse): ..?

Damian(frustrated): I know what I am about to say is wrong. I forgot the actual word. There was no watch on the wall. I did not know the time.

Jon(trying not to laugh): you uh… mean a clock?

Damian: shut up.

[yoki-loves-stars]

I really love this parallel between Gertrude and Jon on humanity (vague tma spoilers)

Gertrude "you were the one so insistent on staying human" Robinson lost everything that makes her human.

Sure, she never became a proper avatar and technically stayed human, but she didn't allow herself to love, to trust, to connect, because every time she did, she'd lose something and someone, so she became cold, she built walls, she took any risk, she'd go as far as she needed to, if it meant success.

It doesn't help that all of her actions lead to other people, servants and avatars to either despise and fear her or hold a great respect towards her. Either way it gets her what she wants.

You could forever argue about what kind of person all of that makes her, yet she was a person. Good, flawed or bad, she was a person and she was human. At least in the most technical most polished way.

But to say she never cared? That would be completely wrong. She held a cold demeanor and a strong confident facade, but deep down she cared.

To speak with such fondness of someone you've never properly interacted with? Is it not human? Yes, Agnes was her anchor, but still. There is something so warm about the way Gertrude talks about her, is curious about her.

To worry about the effects and ethics of your power, to refuse to embrace it, wouldn't that too be human?

And Gerry was probably the last person she genuinely loved and cared for. Gertrude's last tie to humanity, her last anchor and her last reason.

So when he died, when there was nothing left, her tasks, her goals became just some mundane things to take care of. Yes, for the greater good, for the sake of the world, but after you lose everything to care for, to come back to, what's saving the world you already grew so cold towards? Is it really driven by love, dedication, loyalty or connection? Or is it driven by revenge at best, and muscle memory at worst, simply because there is nothing left, but yet another task in your life?

Gertrude, undoubtedly, was human in this very technical, almost artificial way, and she tried her best to remove every ounce of humanity she had, even if she couldn't truly succeed.

On the other hand, Jon stayed so human, it's killing him. Sure, he became an avatar, he stopped being human in a literal sense, but he loves, he cares about people. He has anchors, he has people he mourns, he has people he loves, he has a reason. And that at the same time gives him power and weakens him enormously.

Him choosing to lose his humanity, to wake up, is the most human thing he could do. It's a choice to keep living, to keep fighting, to keep loving. A choice that he would regret over and over and over again as he thinks that he doesn't deserve to exist anymore, that his mere existence causes pain and suffering. And in a way it does.

So when people tell him that he's a monster he believes it. Maybe even more than they do.

It would be so much easier if he was a monster. If all the bad things he's done were driven by some power he was beneath of. If he was, he could just brush them off cause he can't help it, it's in his nature. "Is a thing evil when it simply obeys its own nature? When it embodies its nature?"

The thing is, he's not. He's not evil, he's not a monster, not a vampire, not a doll came to life, not the distortion. He did not come back wrong.

His choice to keep feeding is his own and that horrifies him so much. This choice not to starve, to keep living and to keep enjoying is a very human choice, it is not an instinct. The same way it was his choice to keep reading, to keep being involved. Yes, it's not fair. It's not a fair price for curiousity and it's not a fair price for living. But it's the reality of things.

Do you think he ever regretted setting a person free, even though that could easily kill him? Do you think that he ever regretted setting his foot into that coffin to save someone, who tried to kill him? Do you think he ever regretted choosing to save his loved one over finally getting a chance to kill the man, who ruined his life? Because I sure don't.

All of his mistakes, his sacrifices, all of his choices, all of it was caused by his humanity. Curiosity, love, hatred and fear, but never instinct. And that's what makes him human in all the ways that truly matter.

So when he finds out that there's a chance it all could be just a setup, it scares him. Because he thinks that it strips him of his humanity, of his choices and his whole life.

[regainingparadise]

Relistening to TMA Season 5, I am again struck by how goddam badly Martin and Jon need couples counseling.

I love them both. I ship them very much. But oh lord they have issues

Like, these are two individuals who, under the very best of circumstances, would really need therapy both individually and together. They are both people with plentiful quantities of relational trauma from childhood that neither of them have worked through even the slightest bit.

And then you throw them into the apocalypse. And you add a metric fuck ton of guilt, helplessness, and the dynamics of being "The Antichrist and +1"?

On a surface level--Jon is in a perpetual state of information overload. Martin is in a perpetual state of "can you please just explain the basics of what's' going on in a given situation and not just say "it's complicated" or launch into a gruesome monologue"

But on a deeper level, their childhood relational traumas have left them each with opposing avoidant tendencies: Jon is unwilling to broach a difficult conversation, which leads him to hide information until he's confronted. Martin, on the other hand, has a finely honed ability to ignore information that he doesn't like until he no longer can hide from it.

Biggest example of their avoidance tendencies: Martin's Domain

Way early on, when we barely understand any of how the hellscape works, Jon mentions it, Martin shuts it down hard and deflects quickly with a bid for affection from Jon

Martin is in deliberate denial, but Jon admittedly wasn't particularly clear to start with.

"We all have a domain."

Jon means it, presumably, as "Me, You, and other 'Avatars.'" Jon is used to being grouped with those empowered by the Entities. Martin isn't. (see also: MAG185: Martin" Is that how these creatures see us now? As one of them?") But that's not what Jon says. And this is MAG167--they've only been through four domains, at least that we've seen. Jon is speaking from a place of knowledge, and assuming his listener has that same knowledge.

And when this issue comes up much later in MAG183, Martin has spent 17 episodes ignoring or forgetting that he has a domain, not letting that information in so that he has never processed it. (See also: Mag170: "Sometimes I wonder if I forget things on purpose. Easier not to think about them, I guess. Easier to just let them… slip away. They can’t hurt you if you don’t think about them.").

Martin confronts Jon on his avoidance (because while Martin may be good at ignoring things he doesn't like, he's far better at bringing up challenging topics), Jon is able to manage some A+ communication on his feelings and the genuine challenging of figuring out how to share upsetting information when he has All The Information, Martin accepts that. I just desperately want a therapist to be there and make them continue this conversation and practice ongoing good communication skills!

Though they resolve this, even though Jon has an explanation that makes sense...he was really leaving this conversation to the last minute. Would he have "[brought] it up at the crossroads" as he claims to Helen? Or would he have avoided it entirely, as she accuses, or waited till they were at the threshold, as he does with The Desolation and the Hunt, leaving Martin to confront terrifying situations without forewarning or planning or explanation.

Again, Jon kind of tried to bring up some of the potential issues with Basira and Daisy before entering the Hunt domain, but kept it Vague and Ominous ("Things aren't...good"). Martin took that vagueness as an opening to avoid engaging with potential bad news. The teensiest bit of therapy for either of them about their communication issues could have let Jon add "I know you're exited but FYI here are some specifics that you should know" and/or Martin go "I'm excited to see them but given that nothing is good right now, can you be more specific?"

Instead, Jon approaches difficult conversations by being Vague and Ominous, Martin gets snarky or passive-aggressive at the vagueness, upset or aggressively avoidant at the Ominousness, Jon closes back up like a turtle into his shell, and the conversation only comes back up when the situation has drastically escalated, leaving them both more upset.

Jon wants Martin to trust him, because explaining what he knows implicitly is an ordeal for him, and because his upbringing by his grandmother has suggested that communicating is generally unwanted and burdensome (See: MAG081 A Guest for Mr. Spider).

Martin wants to know what is going on, because he's in an awful hellscape of shifting rules about what can and cannot hurt them, completely dependent on a brand-new romantic partner for his survival and purpose, and also because his upbringing and coping mechanisms as a caretaker rely on him knowing enough to help, and his time as an archival assistant has given him some not-inconsiderable trauma about being left in the dark (See: MAG118 The Masquerade) (There's also another post in my head about how MAG118 primed Martin for both the Lonely and his development as a more confrontational character in S5)

All that to say.

Martin needs therapy to deal with the way he chooses not to absorb information he doesn't like. Jon needs therapy to understand that sometimes it's ok to bring up important topics even if the other person will be upset. They both need therapy to cope with all the guilt and helplessness around the apocalypse so they stop taking it out on each other. They need therapy together to learn how to work through their conflicting coping mechanisms.

[hell0jon]

Imagine they find another tape recorder, decide to play it and it’s just 17 minutes and 39 seconds of the guys in The Puter arguing about tea

———————————————————————

“You know, Martin… I don’t understand how you can drink Chamomile, it’s too sweet”

“And what would you know about sweetness you pompous ass”

“Enough to know that thing in your mug makes syrup look bitter”

“And what would your preferred beverage be, Jon? Do you stick to the classics, or do you like to experiment with teas that don’t taste like a watered-down disappointment?”

“God I don’t know, Martin….. Earl Grey.”

“Earl Grey? EARL GREY? EARL GREY YOU BASIC, MUNDANE, MONOTONOUS, SNOOZER, DULLARD, WALKING YAWN, CURE FOR INSOMNIA, EMBODIMENT OF BEIGE, REAL SNOOZE FAST, PERSONIFICATION OF A BLANK WALL, RAT OLD BASTARD, SHIT HEAD, IDIOT, AVATAR OF THE WHOR—”

[nobodysuspectsthebutterfly]

Reading the dire wolf trial, I tried to find what GRRM said about it as to why Cersei and Robert reacted in the ways they did. He said ages ago that Robert gave in at the end about the direwolf because he was trying to save his marriage.. but I struggle understanding this. Robert doesn’t seem to care about his marriage. Do you think it was to do with the fact she’d spent 3 days yelling at him about it and wanting Arya punished, so he gave in? What’s your thoughts? Upsetting Ned/hand/BF for that?

OK, so I was trying to find a source for that GRRM quote about Robert trying to save his marriage, and finally found this quote from GRRM's interview in St. Petersburg in 2017 -

Robert Baratheon definitely did not have an analytical mindset — he was an angry man, following his emotions. And if Sansa had told everything as it happened, he would have directed his rage at Joffrey rather than at the direwolves. But this is not accurate: at that time, he tried first of all to save his marriage.

However, that struck me as not at all like GRRM says things, and well, that's because that's actually a translation to English from the Russian translation of GRRM's response in English. So I looked harder (thank you, searcherr.work), and found what GRRM actually said:

Robert was not a, what you call, an analytical thinker. He was an impetuous, emotional man who was swayed by his emotions. And if Sansa had said what actually happened, he might have directed all his wrath at Joffrey and less at the direwolves. But it's not certain by any means, because at the same time, he was always trying to keep peace within his marriage and keep Cersei happy.

So! Clarification completed, why did Robert want to keep his marriage peaceful by keeping Cersei happy, or in other words, "save his marriage"? Why didn't he just say, "fuck it, you're right, Ned, my son's a liar and my wife is a bitch", let the direwolves go free, and divorce Cersei?

Well, two reasons. First of all, it's not for Cersei's sake. Like you said, Robert doesn't care about Cersei. However, the reason he married her in the first place was because Tywin was a powerful ally and his strength was needed to keep Robert on the throne.

"Cersei… I have Jon Arryn to thank for her. I had no wish to marry after Lyanna was taken from me, but Jon said the realm needed an heir. Cersei Lannister would be a good match, he told me, she would bind Lord Tywin to me should Viserys Targaryen ever try to win back his father's throne." —AGOT, Eddard VII

And by the time of AGOT, it's not just military strength that Tywin is providing for Robert, but money, and lots of it.

Grand Maester Pycelle looked to Littlefinger and asked, "Will the treasury bear the expense?" "What treasury is that?" Littlefinger replied with a twist of his mouth. "Spare me the foolishness, Maester. You know as well as I that the treasury has been empty for years. I shall have to borrow the money. No doubt the Lannisters will be accommodating. We owe Lord Tywin some three million dragons at present, what matter another hundred thousand?" Ned was stunned. "Are you claiming that the Crown is three million gold pieces in debt?" "The Crown is more than six million gold pieces in debt, Lord Stark. The Lannisters are the biggest part of it [...]" —AGOT, Eddard IV

Now, why the crown is in debt is a complex question (spoilers: the answer is Littlefinger), but three million gold pieces is a lot of money. If Robert drops Cersei like a hot rock, then the Rock wants its gold back. Losing all that Lannister money and military strength -- not to mention angering Tywin -- leaves Robert in an extremely vulnerable position.

[Which is why Renly planned to introduce Margaery Tyrell to Robert to eventually replace Cersei. A Tyrell girl specifically, because the Reach is extremely strong militarily (it has the most population of any region of Westeros because it's so enormous and fertile), and also extremely wealthy (the Hightowers, Tyrell vassals and in-laws, are allegedly "as wealthy as the Lannisters"). The fact that this would replace a Lannister stranglehold on Robert with a Tyrell one, look, Renly's lover is a Tyrell, he's perfectly happy with that situation.]

Secondly, but no less significantly, Robert wants to keep Cersei happy because it's easier for him than having her unhappy. Yes, she did yell at him for three days, but that's not the main issue here. Again, citing GRRM:

Of course, that scene also says something about Robert. And that's ominous, I think, that Robert doesn't stand up to Cersei in that scene when she demands, you know. Lady was completely innocent of the whole incident, but she's being a little vindictive there, and Robert is caving in. And that gives you, I think, an indication of the character of Robert. Robert does not like that kind of conflict. Robert likes the kind of conflict that he can win by hitting his opponent with a war hammer. But he doesn't like the kind of verbal argument, wrangling, and back and forth. That sort of thing just drives him crazy, he just wants it over with. 'Okay, you want that, I don't care about that, do it, let's stop this.'

Robert's primary flaws as a ruler are (1) he is lazy, does not want to rule, lets other people do the work, and does not care about their malfeasance; and (2) he hates verbal discussions and wants every solution to be something he can hit. And hitting Cersei was not a solution here, not in public in front of hundreds of people at least. (Especially in the hall of a house notably loyal to the Targaryens.) Talk about news getting back to Tywin, and Robert has enough issues without people actively gossiping he's like Aerys the Mad or Aegon the Unworthy. But "why didn't Robert just hit Cersei to make her stop bothering him" is a reddit-ass question so we'll put that hypothetical away in the garbage where it belongs.

Anyway! To sum up, Robert wanted to keep his marriage peaceful, and gave into Cersei on the direwolf question, because it was much easier than otherwise. Over, done, moving on now, where's the food. And as for upsetting Ned... well, Ned took it, didn't he, and that loyalty above all is one of his greatest flaws.

[melon-cat-cult]

BATFAM AS THINGS SAID AT WORK

*Damian and Jon talking about the ruby Frankie situation*

*Clark walking up to them to check on them*

Damian: do you think you'd be indoctrinated into a cult Kent?

Clark: what? *Is confused on what a cult is*

*jon explains what a cult is*

Clark: like the people in Utah

***

*two gothamites in their apartment hearing something on the roof*

Gothamite 1: what is that

Gothamite 2: birds

Gothamite 1: what are they doing up there?

Gothamite 2: bird shit ?

*they stare at each other*

Gothamite 2: Idk I'm not a bird

***

*Tim after coughing a lot*

Dick: are you okay?

Tim: I'm dying

Dick: from?

Tim: idk

Dick: you should go to the hospital

Tim: I'll be fine

***

Jason:...

Bruce:...

Jason: damn a bitch can't die in peace anymore ?

***

Tim: you ever breathe and feel your lungs rumble ?

Kon: what?

Tim: *inhales and starts a coughing fit*

Tim: I'll take that as a no then, I should go to the doctor.

Kon: yeah something is wrong with you