#john nettleship

[the-wayward-prince]

I am an unattractive Severus Snape truther, I enjoy the lens that Snape is truly just a conventionally unappealing man, BUT I look at these pictures of the man he's based on and no one can tell me he isn't sexy

[lexie-squirrel]

[drarry-soulmates]

This is how 'ugly' Snape was... He had crooked teeth as you can see in the right picture. Soo not ugly -,- Completely average-looking if you ask me!

How J.K. Rowling felt after basing Snape on her chemistry teacher (who she quite incorrectly thought hated her) thinking he would never see it (he was good friends with her mother, loved the series, and wrote magical beast fanfiction because he — and I have many sources for this — was a mega-nerd, autistic, multi-talented, innately wizard-ish Welshman).

I looked into this guy because I was wondering what he could have possibly done to get Snape, of all characters, based on him. The only thing I could find was that apparently J.K. Rowling took his autistic socializing as “he doesn’t like me” and that this guy was actually a really nice person. Like, unusually so. I went to read up on it again for the sake of this post and had a bunch of “Oh, that’s right; he totally did have a restroom with disabled access installed in the science department for J.K. Rowling’s T.A. mother who was ill” moments, some “Oh, that’s right; he totally was a pillar of his community who went around doing welfare checks on people with violent exes even when he was on his deathbed” moments, some, “Oh yeah, he totally was a feminist who lobbied for women’s rights on a regular basis (my uncle who likes Harry Potter joked that this is why J.K. Rowling didn’t like him)” moments, and some “Oh, yeah; he totally did used to compare his chemistry class to potion making and wizards when kids got bored and sing about it in Welsh with wizard robes on randomly throughout and at the end of the year like a freaking nerd years before Harry Potter was even conceived” moments.

TL;DR: This has been a J.K. Rowling are you fucking kidding me post and also Snape is a feminist by proxy; I don’t make the rules.

[birdiebirdjay]

what are your thoughts on Severus Snape?

AW HECK YEAH I FREAKING LOVE SEVERUS SNAPE!!!

I've talked about him a lot on my blog lol- not as much recently, but rest assured I still love him <3

He's one of my favorite dudes!! Percy is awesome because he is me and I am him sometimes but Snape is awesome because HOLY SHIT the amount of trauma this man went through just to become one of the saviors of the wizarding world?? holy shit it's insane

I have so much love and admiration for him as a character. He's the most heroic hero to ever hero tbh (overexaggeration I know.. but still)

Also, honestly, no I don't really care about the whole thing with Neville. In the most polite way possible, canonically, that kid was either a cowardly idiot or a kid who didn't listen in class and needed to get straightened out. Signed, an autistic nerd who would have hated him in real life. I'm sorry but I just cannot listen to any argument that basically goes 'ohh but he BULLIED CHILDREN!!' like no he was a strict teacher and Neville was a bad student who endangered others 😭😭

Oh also I absolutely love the John Nettleship lore!! (Basically Snape was based off JKR's old chemistry teacher, who she hated for like no reason lmao. He was super nice and everyone else loved him and he dressed up as a wizard and sang songs in Welsh. He was also most likely autistic and most definitely a mega feminist!! Absolutely based dude tbh. He even had disability accomodations installed in their building for JKR's mother!) Anyways book!Snape is autistic and you can't convince me otherwise <3

OH!! ANOTHER THING!! I love Alan Rickman, think he was an awesome actor, but movie!Snape is inferior to book!Snape in every way to me. He makes me shudder. Canon Snape is screamy and rough around the edges and mentally unstable and traumatized AND IT SHOWS! Movie!Snape is... smooth speaking... and calm... and slaps student... and is NOT book!Snape in any way shape or form!!!

Oh speaking of (can you tell I love yapping about Snape?), despite being pronounced a student-hating abusive bully by a certain side of the fandom, he's actually one of the only teachers that canonically never put the students in physical danger, and I think that's very snexy of him.

Anyways yeah I love Snape :) there's literally only one thing he's done in canon that I can't defend. Ask me questions about him anytime <3

[shakespearenews]

“Fashioned by Sargent” installation view. Far left, ‘‘Beetle Wing Dress’’ for Lady Macbeth. Sargent’s painting of the actress Ellen Terry as Lady Macbeth, in the shimmering gown (which boasts actual beetle wing cases affixed to its surface), hangs nearby. The dress was created by Alice Laura Comyns-Carr. Credit...Museum of Fine Arts, Boston

If his portraiture approached theater, Sargent also had a way of turning moments from the stage into images richly steeped in the history of painting. His painting of the actress Ellen Terry in the role of Lady Macbeth, which she played to great acclaim at London’s Lyceum Theatre in 1888, recasts her as a Pre-Raphaelite heroine with long red plaits and a shimmering blue and green gown known as the “Beetle Wing Dress” (which boasts elaborate draped sleeves and actual beetle wing cases affixed to its surface). The costume, made by the designer Alice Comyns-Carr in collaboration with Terry and the dressmaker Ada Nettleship, is exhibited alongside the painting and may be the show’s most spectacular garment.

[galleryofart]

The Friends

Artist: Gwen John (Welsh, 1876-1939)

Date: c. 1898-1899

Medium: Oil on canvas

Collection: National Gallery of Victoria, Melbourne, Australia

Description

Gwen John’s paintings of women and girls with books have often been thought to reflect her introspective nature and spiritual leanings. The reverse, however, may be true of her Interior with figures of (c. 1898–99). It shows two of John’s closest friends and fellow painters, Ida Nettleship and Gwen Salmond, when all three were studying in Paris and living together in Montparnasse. Nettleship recalled that the friends were much taken up with fashion research on behalf of her mother, a theatrical costumier, and that she, ‘Gwen S’ and ‘Gwen J’ were spending their days pouring over fashion plates and painting portraits of one another.

[potions-of-dark-devotion]

^^^^

THIS. This is the perfect addition to my post. Why she hated so much a man who was just strict as a teacher yet sacrificed for her and her mother idk. It’s kind of sweet that he embraced the role she cast him in with love rather than having it destroy him. I mean Severus is such an amazing character and his role in the story is noble and complex. He is the most intersting character in the narrative and it’s amazing that he could see that and enjoy it. Why she needed to put him down even more is upsetting. It’s just yet another reason why I’ve become disillusioned with JKR as a person. It’s really sad honestly.

Also on a side note I myself am Autistic and now my heart is warmed 1000% because Severus being autistic is just cannon to me now. Idc what JKR thinks of Snape honestly sometimes I wonder if she realizes the masterpiece she created in him and what it means to those of us who are “ugly” and “evil” to have a character like us who comes out to be one of the most noble and good natured of the series.

The nerve of JK Rowling to describe Snape as ugly then describe him like a muggle rockstar. Black hair/the sickly pale skin combo. The all black robes, the inevitable eye circles, the tragic stares from the dark penetrating eyes. Turns out to actually have tattoos. Then she supported Alan Rickman of all people being cast. Did she ever expect us to actually dislike him? Because I liked him from the first book. Legit thought he was the coolest teacher there.

[epiphany-wanderer]

John Nettleship is a gorgeous man

According to marauder fans we(as in snape fans) only like him because Alan rickman was/is good looking. I mean what part of us talking about the abuse, bullying, assault, grooming and manipulation that he had suffered from has anything to do with rickman's attractiveness? I don't know about the others but I don't find him attractive because Alan played him (Alan was an amazing actor. Love him to death) I love him because of his complexity.

I also don't believe that snape was ugly. Beauty is subjective also he was inspired by John Nettleship and there is not even a single unattractive or ugly thing about that man. Rowling is a petty woman.

[shakespearean-snape]

Hi there! so glad to see you posting again I like a lot of what you have to say about Snape. I noticed you say a few times tho that your visual headcanon for Snape isn't conventionally attractive and I just wondered if you had any reference of what he looks like in your mind? An actor or other famous person? just someone like that?

I'm just curious how you imagine Snape because I admit I just see Alan Rickman as Snape in my head since I started with the movies as a kid and didn't read the books a few until years later. It always interests me so much when people say they read the books before the movies or read the books with the movies coming out and saw Snape as someone else.

Its ok if you can't think of anyone just thought I'd ask. thx!

Hello!

*waves enthusiastically like an idiot with zero chill*

I get so giddy when someone sends me an ask like this so I hope no one thinks I don't enjoy questions about Snape or my headcanons. As anyone who knows me knows, I think a lot and especially about those things I love so I always have lots of thoughts rolling around in my head I can be positively overeager to share with anyone interested.

So to answer your question, I don't have a specific person pinned down that is 100% like how I picture Snape in my mind but some close candidates would be a young Adrien Brody (which I think is common enough among Snape fans as a choice, right there with Adam Driver these days), obviously the man that JKR based Snape around, John Nettleship, someone like Adarsh Jaikarran as a potential Hogwarts-era and early 20s Snape (even if he is more good-looking than I usually lean, in some pictures he just channels Snape vibes for me quite a bit) and a very young Julian Richings if you've ever seen photos of him in his younger years (I have two here for you so you can see my point a bit, here and here).

Ironically, Julian Richings in the later years of his acting career would probably have been my first choice for a Voldemort fan cast back in the day when any Harry Potter reboot was purely in the realm of the hypothetical (I mean, c'mon, look at this and tell me you can't see it too) but as JKR is an unapologetic anti-feminist/TERF I provide no monetary support to any of her projects including any licensed games, the watching of future reboots or purchasing of future tie-in books in the HP universe, officially licensed HP merchandise, or even by giving traffic to what was formerly Pottermore, etc.

All I bring to the fandom now is my fan theories and love for Snape, which she not only does not benefit from but never seemed entirely at peace with given how the character got away from her and took off. I can't think of a better way to spite someone so utterly spiteful herself than to take the character she was most shocked by people loving in any capacity and celebrate him in every incarnation (gay, bi, trans, ace, autistic, poc, etc.) with my queer, gender-nonconforming little heart while she gets zero money off me for it.

Anyway I hope the visual guide gives you a little more insight into my mind. I've never seen Snape as "ugly" (even when I joke my Snape is "ugly" and I like him that way) but my mental picture of him is of a man whose looks might fall into that unconventionally attractive sphere or what some people call homely. Occasionally I veer off that a bit, as with Adarsh Jaikarran, oh, oh! And also Lee Soo Hyuk, Song Jae-Rim and Kento Yamazaki (ever since I saw him in the live-action Bloody Monday manga series adaptation)!

But yes, my favorite Snape and the Snape I love isn't usually model attractive but also not quite the gargoyle Harry describes (that kid had some ridiculously high standards of beauty tbh, about the only characters he didn't have mentally critical notes on their appearance was the unnamed Veela, Fleur, and Narcissa Malfoy so yeah he totally thought "Draco's mom has got it going on..." Lol!) but somewhere in that "unconventional" categorization of attractive which I feel really suits a man who so often defies easy categorization in general.

(Excuse all the edits. After I gave a few examples more started hitting me and I was like ohhhhh I should have shared them, why didn't I think to share them? So I may come back and make more edits throughout the day, no promises I won't! Lol)

[yearofthesnape]

Severus Snape and Nettle Wine

Two among our number hold only nettle wine...

I've often wondered why Snape's famous logic puzzle uses nettle wine, rather than (say) currant wine, cherry wine, parsnip wine, or any other kind of wine that would fit the metric requirements of his poem. The light color of nettle wine should not matter, as color is never referenced in the entire puzzle sequence. As far as I know, nettle wine is not more common than the preceding varieties I've listed (though other voices may want to weigh in, as I'm hardly a wine expert). There must be some deeper significance, then, to using nettle. Here are some thoughts I had:

It's a sideways reference to John Nettleship, on whom Snape's character is known to be based.

In Victorian flower language (yes I'm bringing that up again), nettles mean slander. Snape knows people talk about him - how can he not? - and this is his subtle way of saying he has been maligned. In the bigger story, it's a sort of narrative hint, right before we get the proof that all that suspicion of Snape really was slander after all.

The stinging nettle, out of which nettle wine is made, is a weed whose contact is unpleasant to other people (in wild form) but also refreshes them, stinging in a different format (as wine). Snape is also initially and obviously unpleasant and has been treated as unwanted and overlooked, but as time goes on, we see that while he still stings, he also displays unexpected finer qualities.

It seems likely that Snape made the wine as well as the other potions; he can take the unpleasantness in his life, figured by nettles, and turn it into something better.

The irritating weed-like quality of nettles also poetically echoes the nature of these flasks in the riddle; they are nonlethal hindrances to a goal (in this case, getting through the flames). Snape has been observed to deal in imagery, metaphor, and the layers of things, and this is one more example.

As a side note, all the possible configurations listed on the Harry Potter Wiki involve the "second left and the second on the right" being nettle wine. Thus, nettle wine - a possible metonym for Snape himself - is the consistent substance under two different guises, just as Snape plays double agent.

[fresiants]

When I found out about him for the first time, I was stunned. He was so attractive in my eyes, it's crazy how he was described as ugly. I could definitely see Snape in him.

Lmao, someone on Reddit wrote that they would probably simp for Severus if they were to enter the Harry Potter universe, and people in the comment section really went out of their way to disprove OP's attraction by listing his 'unattractive features.' Just wait till they see how thirsty Snape fans are on Tumblr.

[aurevoiralways]

do you know about the john nettleship guy? who is he? cause i hear about him being what inspired professor snape.

Ah I've heard of him too! I dunno. Seems interesting but I never really bothered to fact check or look up anything about him.

[severussnapeconfessions]

Not exactly a confession regarding Snape himself but some discussions in fandom: I hate it when a headcanon or a theory about Snape is justified with, "Well, he's based on John Nettleship and he was in fact x'." I want to discuss Snape and not John Nettleship, okay? Who knows if JKR was even aware of this tidbit of information? At this point, a mention of that name makes me nope out of a discussion. XD

Each of us has our own Severus Snape living rent-free in our minds - regardless of the real person he was based on. For some, it comforts them that their views on Snape's character are supported by a real bloke's physical and personality traits.

To me, it honestly doesn't matter.

[monkeyssalad-blog]

The Adversary by John Trivett Nettleship, 1890 by totallymystified Via Flickr: From The Boy's Own Paper Annual, Volume 13, 1890-91. Chromolithographed by Grover & Co, Nottingham.

[snkrfnd]

Gown design by Alice Comyns, crochet by Ada Nettleship

Last night was my company Holiday Party, and we're doing really well, so it was held at the Museum of Fine Arts (Boston)

I was so happy that also included the Styled by Sargent exhibit, of John Singer Sargent paintings and the actual articles of clothing alongside them.

Now, you have probably seen this painting of Lady Macbeth

But have you seen the costume she's wearing??

It's gorgeous, obviously.

But that texture! It's *crochet*

And some knitting

Really simple crochet too; just a chain and single crochet lattice with beads and metallic thread added for this chain mail effect.

Despite John Singer Sargent being an expert painter of fabric (no, really, just look at it), I never knew Lady Macbeth's costume had to be *hand crocheted* for that texture in the painting.

Anyway I'm gonna be making myself some faux-chainmail by crocheting it for the next Renn Faire

[distinktionsfetzen]

Check out Augustus John, Portrait of Ida Nettleship (1900-c.), From Piano Nobile