#joanna of castille

[foreverinthepagesofhistory]

It’s the fact that there actually is a collectors coin for Leonor’s birthday 😭😭 is 🇪🇸 or the original anon got a secret schedule from casareal? 😭😭 honestly I needed a good laugh today and that was hilarious to wake up to. Great work guys! All in all the coin looks really great!! Secondly here is my question, if you could meet any Spanish royal, from any period, could be Isabel of Castile or even Leonor, spend a week with them and ask all the questions you could…who would you pick? Let’s time travel just a bit. I think I would go with Isabel of Castile. Or I would see Charles, the last king of the Habsburgs in Spain before the house of Borbón. Would have liked to see how all that went down.

That is such a coincidence!!! Casa real has been feeding us a lot of good Leonor content lately and this whole thing is like the biggest coincidence like ever!

I think that I would definitely go back to see Catherine of Aragon and her sister Joanna and to give both of them a BIG BIG BIG hug because they honestly deserve it and I would definitely give Joanna some anxiety meds lol. Also seeing Charles II sounds fun too. He was one of the worst cases of inbreeding in the Hapsburgs and maybe in all of the royal history of Europe and I would love to see how he functions daily and to accurately see how messed up he was because he was REALLY messed up.

Thank you for asking and new chapters of WOTC are coming soon!

[arwen-evenstar]

1.06 "A Polite Kidnapping" —︎ The Spanish Princess (2019–2020)

[awkward-sultana]

(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Joanna of Castile's red cape with gold print and ermine trimmed collar in 1x06

[angevinyaoiz]

Matilda, Eleanor, and Joanna - retrospring request for the Angevin daughters

[moradometalizado]

The Spanish Princess 1x06

[juanatrastamara]

– juana i de trastámara ; infanta of spain, duchess consort of burgundy, queen of castile, aragon, valencia, mallorca, navarre, naples, sicily, sardinia and countess of barcelona was born on this day, 6th of november of 1479

[perioddramapolls]

Period dramas dresses tournament: Yellow-Golden dresses Semifinals- Group B: Edith Cushing, Crimson peak (gifset) vs Joanna of Castile, Juana la loca (gifset)

[fideidefenswhore]

Not all her contemporaries considered Joanna 'mad'. In 1505 a Venetian ambassador to Spain, Vincenzo Quirini, noted that Maximilian spent several weeks in the Netherlands 'mostly with the queen [Joanna], keeping her entertained almost constantly with fetes' and trying to reconcile her with her husband before they left for Spain. He 'has tried everything he can to make her happy, because he knows that all her problems have arisen because she is depressed.' In Quirini's opinion, Maximilian succeeded. Henry VII, who met Joanna a few weeks later when storms diverted her ship to England on her way to Spain, agreed: 'When I saw her,' he later told the Spanish ambassador, 'she seemed fine and she spoke in a restrained and gracious manner, never compromising her authority.' Moreover, 'although her husband [Philip] and those with him made her out to be mad, to me she seemed sane; and that is what I believe now.' Ferdinand too, apparently harboured some doubts. At their meeting one month after declaring Joanna incapable of governing, the king urged Philip to tolerate Joanna's behaviour 'just as he had tolerated the behaviour of Queen Isabella, her mother, who in her youth was driven by jealousy to far worse extremes than those of his daughter right now; and with his support she regained her senses and became the queen that everyone knew.'

Emperor: A New Life of Charles V, Geoffrey Parker

[palaceoftears]

Isabel and Juana of Castile + quote

Happy birthday @latristereina !

Isabel had good cause for being upset. Such was “the disposition of the Princess” as the physicians described it, “that not only should it pain those who see her often and love her greatly, but also anyone at all, even strangers, because she sleeps badly, eats little and at times nothing, and she is very sad and thin. Sometimes she does not wish to talk and appears as though in a trance; her infirmity progresses greatly.” It was customary, they explained, to treat Juana’s infirmity through love, entreaty, or fear; but the princess had proven unreceptive to entreaty, and even “a little force” affected her so adversely that it was a great pity to attempt it and no one wanted to try, so that, beyond the queen’s customary immense labors and concerns, this weight of caring for her daughter fell upon her. It has been conjectured that Isabel’s illness could have been cancer, endocarditis—infection of the heart valve—chronic dropsy, or several of them combined. By the following June she had a visible tumor, although it is not known where or of what sort. In August she took Juana to Segovia, which she had seemingly avoided for years, telling her it was a step toward the north coast and her departure for Flanders. There Isabel continued to try with little success to get her to turn her mind to affairs of state. Juana showed little interest in government and in her child, and a good deal of disregard for religious matters of any sort, and for public opinion as well. The princess appeared to disdain much of what Isabel valued, and even to represent the antithesis of the very qualities her mother valued most highly. Even so, Juana was her designated successor, and Isabel was determined to keep her in Spain and do her best to train her to be its queen. So the arguments against Juana’s departure were patiently repeated: the season, the sea, the French, that Philip should be safe in Ghent before she traveled, and did she not want to see her father before she left? The hope remained that Juana would stay and Charles join her, so that Isabel might have him educated in Spain’s customs and come to prefer its people. And with Juana and Charles there and Philip not, should Isabel die, Fernando, still king of Aragón, could surely manage to guide their daughter in governing Castile. It was November. A treaty with France—arranged by the queen of France, Anne of Brittany, and Margaret of Austria—had been signed, and an envoy arrived from Philip requesting that Juana return to Flanders. Isabel, playing for time, responded that the princess, although better, was not well, that relations with France were still such that it was not safe for her to travel by land or, now that it was winter, by sea, that she had better wait until spring, and that “following her frame of mind and la pasión she has” that Juana should not be where there was no one who could quiet and restrain her for it might be dangerous for her. The implication was that Juana was emotionally out of control. Exactly what was meant by “restrain” we do not know.

-Peggy K. Liss, Isabel the Queen

[historicconfessions]

[realcatalina]

Stained glass windows with Habsburg females

Photo by Michel Lefrancq, wikipedia bears fallowing description:

A part of the stained glass windows of the Assumption in collegiate church Sainte Waudru (Mons, Belgium) by Eve Claix, Ca 1510 depicting Holy Queens Elizabeth of Hungary, Catherine of Alexandria and Queen Juanna of Castille.

I mostly agree but I will clerify few points. The window depicts Queen Joanna of Castile with all four daughters depicted behind her:

surounded by several saints. The woman before them is probably Virgin Mary.

Above Joanna is is probably her namesake saint John the Baptist(holding lamb), above girls is St. Queen Elizabeth of Hungary(holding two crowns), then St. Catherine of Alexandria holding bridal veil and bit of her wheel is behind head of one of the girls:

Thus only one missing her namesake saint is Eleanor. But i tried to find if saint Eleanor existed and the google proved unconclusive.

According to one webpage it is another name for St. Helena, the rest seem to think the name has french origin, with nothing to do with St. Helana or any other saint.

However, the name might not derive from female saint at all but from male saint(like Joanna's is). In Eleanor's case probably St. Leonard of Noblac. He is usually depicted as an abbot holding some type of chains, often also with a book. Thus he is not here.

This is how it would look if we made the gaps smaller:

After i tried fixing the damage, removed the gaps and backrground:

(the damage was right across Joanna's face, i tried guys.) I believe the fashion points to late 1500s, or extremely early into 1510s, long before girls were of the age they are depicted at.

(This is kind of typical of this type of depictions-daughters behind their mother). Thus after Joanna left, probably after she got locked up, and the youngest-Catherine seems as an afterthought.

She was born in 1507. I would date this aproximately 1507-1510. Which is not far from c.1510 estimate.

Closest match is this portrait of Margaret, but in stained glass you see later shapes of netherlandish subtype of french hood.

(Problem is that experts disagree upon when it was created. It used to be dated as c.1505, c.1506, but for example now museum of fine arts Gent-which owns it- has it as 15/16 century. I think the reason for 15th century notion is that it got atributed to artist called Master of 1499. But obviously the artist was active for more than one year!)

But Joanna and girls are not the only Habsburg royals depicted.

I will get to Habsburg men in Saint Waltrude when i find good closeup of them. I keep finding bad ones. But there are more royal ladies.

Photo from same place(Saint-Waltrude) can be found on pinterest:

It is thought to depict Mary of Burgundy and Margaret of Austia.

Reason for it is that the mother(on right) is beneath St. Mary Magdalene(holding a jar), while the daughter(on left) is beneath St. Margaret(atribute is ment to be the dragon by her feet-it is more of a weird lizard thing).

This is best i could come up with(it is photoshopped):

(because the gowns were not fitting together when you removed the gaps).

Obviously Mary of Burgundy is depicted posthumously in outfit not from her lifetime-but possibly using portrait for the face. Imo, this window was created tiny bit after the previous, but it might be just a year or two. It leans a tiny bit more towards 1510s. I think the artist finished one window then moved to the next one, which Habsburgs commissioned.

I hope you have enjoyed this. Tell me what you think.

[wikitrajes]

Queen Joanna of Castile, Meister der Magdalenenlegende, 1495-96

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La reina Juana de Castilla, Meister der Magdalenenlegende, 1495-96

Kunsthistorisches Museum Viena

[dreamconsumer]

Joanna of Spain known as the Mad (1479-1555), Queen of Castile and her spouse Philip the Handsome (1478-1506), King of Spain and Archduke of Austria in 'El Culto de la Hermosura' by Juan Justo Huguet.

[awkward-sultana]

(Almost) Every Costume Per Episode + Joanna of Castile's dark red gamurra with black beading in 1x06

[angevinyaoiz]

All the blossoms in my garden 🪴

An Angevin-Plantagenets family tree I made for my medieval art collection zine, “If All The World Were Mine!” The physical edition is now available, so check it out if you can :D

[moradometalizado]

The Spanish Princess 1x06