#jk that trend isn't for me

[tarohonii]

shoutout to the girlies who resonate deeply with Kang Sucheon due to his violent urges and shitty attitude and such. Oh and the deeply profound and resonating emptiness also i guess.

[jmdbjk]

Cultural reset...

These are just my own opinions and I think it's time I address this.

I had to google "cultural reset" to make sure I was using the term properly. New Google AI Overview says:

A cultural reset is when something significant in popular culture changes or is added, causing people to change the way they view things or to have a lot of people hop on the trend. For example, in K-pop, a cultural reset is a song that is very influential, usually one that gets pretty popular and many people love. It has a lot of influence over the K-pop fandom, and gets a lot of attention.

I did not ask Google AI Overview to specifically give me an example in K-pop. That's just my browsing history telling Google AI Overview that this bitch is obsessed... scary right?

(But I'm a little miffed that Google AI Overview generalized my BTS browsing history as K-pop because I don't look at or search up other K-pop artists. I am BTS only.)

Anyway, thank you Google AI Overview. Actually, I was more interested in styling concepts that are a cultural reset.

Let's stop stalling and just get into it.

I know none of us knew what to do with this Jimin when the photo folios dropped:

Definitely a cultural reset in my opinion.

We had never seen a Jimin like that before. Only in our fanfic-AI generated images imaginations had we ever thought...I don't think AI images was even a thing when this Jimin dropped on us.

Does anyone else have the urge to smooth the wrinkles and creases out of those pants for him? No? Just me? Ok.

Photo folio-black lace up leather gloved-patent leather panted-big chain belted-horny mask Jimin was a cultural reset for me and for many of us. The gloves really put it over the top. We'll never go back. He's covered from neck to foot except for a few slivers of skin. It's wild. It's just a smooth arm pit. Ok, before I run off the rails here... what was I saying? Oh yeah.

Also a cultural reset for me:

Every time I see this come up on my Youtube I watch it because it deserves all the views. Even the soundtrack was perfect.

I know Dora-the-Explorer haired Jungkook is not the favorite of some but I absolutely adore it... wait... sorry. There's a word there that I'm striking from my regular vocabulary from now on. Reasons.

This Jungkook was a cultural reset for me. He's never looked like this before and hasn't since in any concept photos. This was brilliant styling, I don't know if it was JK's regular stylist or if a Calvin Klein stylist did it but it was pure art.

He played that camera until the camera wilted, I just know it. I hope he grows his hair out long again when he's back with us.

And no shoulder booboo. I wonder when the shoulder booboo incident happened and I wonder if we'll ever hear the details.

While I'm talking about cultural resets, I have an honorable mention:

Not just this visual but the song too. PJM2 is coming. I feel another cultural reset coming.

Talking to my partner in crime the other day and I think a meeting DID occur where they detailed out a timeline for Project Naked Bangtan. Because they weren't going to go full frontal on us cold turkey. (Somehow all those words together sound hideous but you get my meaning.)

Regardless of Tae and his proclamation that "Chapter 2 isn't about us taking off our shirts" it is about showing a more mature side of themselves which inevitably is going to lead to showing some skin and some cuss words. Little did we know.

I can imagine how it went down in the brainstorm meeting of them trying to come up with content to fill in the time until they are all discharged...on a whiteboard possibly... because some of us are visual learners... someone drew a timeline of nakedness, possibly for each member.

I can hear it now:

RM: "We have to ease them into it. Who's first?"

Jin: "Hyung will do it." LMAO

What's been your Jimin and Jungkook cultural resets?

[not-goldy]

I just know when Jennie hit send on those paris pictures, she and Tae were laughing like evil maniacs. Do tkk really think because they are a loud group and trend Tk just cause they breath next to each other, they will somehow convince people Taennie never happened and Tk is real? The entire world watched Tae & Jennie's dating life get exposed little by little, by a hacker, until they took control of their situation and went public in Paris on their own terms. The whole world is laughing at that cult. So why are Jkks even entertaining Tkk at this point? Its pointless. They are always gonna claim atomix is a private date, even with proof from Atomix it was a OT7 dinner. They will always crop members or their friends to push their ship. Its a TK private date, but all members are there. Its a TK bowling date, but Wooga is there. Its a TK skiing date, but Wooga is there. Its a TK concert date, but Nicole is there with JK for some reason and Jennie off to the side and a wooga too that Tae leaves with. Its a TK vegas date, but Hobi is there. Its a TK house date with an impromptu live, but Hobi is there. Its a TK online gaming date, but Wooga is there and Tae living with one of his Wooga members. It's a TK LA beach & dinner date, but Jimin is right there and seems RM was at that dinner, since he posted a picture. Its a TK hotel date, but other people are there. It's a TK premiere date, but other people are there. Full blown stupidity. My ship is a couple, but they don't spend couple days together, confirmed, but they do spend couple days with others, confirmed. They spend time together, but on couple days, is where they draw the line and don't? Its Tae telling us he was alone and slept through Valentines and a couple weeks later its Jk out on White Day with Jimin for me. Two couple days back to back and NOTHING from your ship. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

Also HELLO? Tae had another man living in his apartment. Someone he also is extremely clingy to and all over when he's around him. And MF's act like JK is jealous over Tae. Bitch please. JK don't give a fuck. Tae out here with a girlfriend and another man living at his house and MF's think JK will just be okay with all this? I'm fucking wheezing. The man was doing cartwheels on live singing Jimin songs, the day the Taennie news broke. He is the most unbothered person when it comes to Taennie. So why not leave him out of Tae's business?

Also, Its Jikook taking their first trip alone and together, but that isn't a private trip. It's Jikook together alone on Silver Day in NY, but that's not a date and Jikook in Connecticut, but that's not a private trip. It's Jikook taking a private trip to Japan before enlisting, but that's not a couple trip. It Jikook watching The Avengers with no other members, but that isn't a date. Its Jikook ice skating alone, but that isn't a date. Its Jikook out shopping alone, but that isn't a shopping date. It's Jikook together on White Day eating, but that don't count. Its Jikook together during Chuseok, but again, it doesn't mean anything. Its Jikook together on JK's bday alone (bonus for Tae asking Jimin to come sleep with him, instead of the birthday boy, WHOMP WHOMP) but that also doesn't count. Its Jikook ALONE drinking, bridal twirling and hickey sucking, but that also doesn't count. It's Jikook enlisting ALONE and together. Like get the fuck out of here, your ship will never be in Jikook's league. No one is playing your silly fucking games anymore. You ship isn't real and you can't even argue it without looking like you need a straight jacket at this point. Tae put the final nail in the coffin and Jennie buried y'all, while Jikook walking together over your graves for the next 18 months. Its over and done. Move on. You got 18 months to get your life together.

Cook

[andy-wm]

When you can't stop thinking about Jikook.

A couple of days ago i responded to a post about Jikook, and I've been thinking about it ever since. I wanted to write down my thoughts here because they just won't leave my head.

I've seen a few posts and comments recently about whether we still think they're 'together' now that we don't see them together.

Thinking about this has made me realise just how real they are. Because It's not about any of us. Its not about ARMY and it's not about BTS. It's only about them.

Their relationship is not performative. They don't put on a show for us. They don't invite the viewer in, in the way a constructed fantasy does. Because their story isn't constructed. Because they are not a fantasy.

They exist far beyond stolen moments or heated looks on screen. They have private jokes we don't understand. They share touches that imply intimacy way beyond what we see. They have a life together that DOES NOT INCLUDE US.

Honestly, I think JK and JM don't care if we do see them. Having us there won't stop them doing what they're doing, but it is not done for us. It's not about us. It's about them. In fact, we aren't invited.

There have also been a few posts about how strange it is that people will ship JK with literally anyone but Jimin.

Any time anyone shares a space or a camera frame or a glance with JK, fantasies about their romance start coming out. Its wild. Threads about the supposed romance appear. They trend ship names. They stalk and threaten any woman (only ever women, never the men) who dared to look his way. They either buy in, or they refute with all their proof and theories.

And looking at this repeating cycle, I think I understand why these people will never ship JK with Jimin. And I understand why people who ship JK with random other men and women have a problem with JK & Jimin being together.

It's because there's no way a jikook romance can be their romance. They have no place or role to play in the jikook story... not through being paladins in a secret war (like tkkrs want to be) and not through substitution (as a y/n fantasy). In this romance, everyone but jikook are irrelevant. We don't exist in Jikook's world. For people who just want to support them, that's no problem. We happily cheer them on from the sidelines.

But people who need to be INVOLVED ... those people hate when they don't CONTROL or OWN this story. They hate that JIKOOK DON'T OWE THEM ANYTHING. They hate that their opinions really DON'T MATTER.

Look at them....

There's no space for us to insert ourselves into this story. In this moment, and in so many others, we simply don't exist. And i love that.

I WANT to close the door and leave them to it. 💜

[yuzuyoon]

Oh my god this sentiment!!!!

"think deep down they know if JM leaves, they are fucked. I know a lot of people say RM might be the one keeping the group together but I am willing to bet it's JM. If he chooses he had had enough, I don't think BTS will cease to exist. Yeah others leaving will create a dent but I think JM leaving will break the group. I don't think he will be the way. He is too much of a good guy. He knows the legacy the group brings but it would be interesting to see".

I remember having this convo with an Army once and they got so offended that I would feel that way. Honestly when I first got into BTS, it was because Jimin was trending on Twitter. I only checked him out after I consistently saw him trend. After that I realized he was a part of group called BTS and that was it for me. I have watched BTS and their content for a long time now and there are few things I can hundred percent bank on.

BTS have an amazing chemistry as a group. Regardless of what happens behind the camera, they are able to put it all aside and work as a team. There is a great sense of pride of being a team and they genuinely like each other.

Yes they are close but they get jealous of each other. I don't know the level of jealousy but there have been a few throwaway comment from the guys which points to this.

No matter what anyone says, Jimin is the emotional centre of the group. He is the person they go to when they need to hash out things but he is also the person that calls them out when they are being shit. He is the one who will have a chat with the leader of the others are struggling. He is the one who will tell people when things aren't working and they rely heavily on him. I see this as a disadvantage for Jimin because he is constantly in a giver and fixer role and he might not be getting the same back but I think we gotta remember he is a leader behind the scenes. He knows what he wants and he will go for it.

One thing that I wish Jimin did more of us boast about himself. He is extremely talented, extremely athletic, very good at a lot of things and fucking phenomenal dancer but I don't think I have seen Jimin boast about any of this.

All the members have had a role in the beginning and they have stuck to it for years and they will continue to stick to it even when they come back as a group. The chances of them bringing up Jimins success especially the first Korean soloist to top Hot 100 will not be brought up even though they will bring up Sevens success. I genuinely don't know why they do that but this has been a common recurrence.

I personally don't think the boys are distant as people make them out to be. When they come as a group, we will see a similar dynamic.

The above paragraph about JM being the one that can break the group, I whole heatedly believe this shit. Like I truly think that if he was to return tomorrow and say to the group, I am done, they will have to walk away. I have many reasons to believe this. Firstly, it's very obvious to me that he is highly intelligent emotionally as well as intellectually. Because he is so highly emotionally intelligent, he is able to balance the group. He can be anything to anyone of them so he centres them. He shares a very good relationship with all of them and he values his relationship with them all so he goes out of his way to keep it. He isn't jealous at all of the boys so he doesn't let that get in his head. He might have little jealously over their skills but not them as people. He also doesn't need loud declaration that he is amazing or he is the best. He of course likes it because who the fuck wouldn't but that's not the only driving factor.

This is going to be so bold of me and I could be wrong and I will most likely be wrong but it will be a JK vs JM show and it will continue to be that way for a while. I think the boys have known this for a long time. They can see the metrics and judge it accordingly. From what I can see, JK has always been pushed as the centre member. They have always wanted him to be the popular member. I have never understood why but I am assuming they feel that he has more years possibly being the youngest. He is also a great singer and stable so I am not surprised. I still think it's weird that they would focus on one person in a 7 member group but it kind of makes sense. But JM has always been an anomaly. He is incredibly charismatic so that makes him stand out. He is good looking which is JK is too by the way but Jimin captures more eyeballs. But most importantly not only is he a great dancer and singer, he has a natural star quality that the rest of them including JK need to work hard to show. He has sensuality that a lot of people don't possess so it's not a surprise that the competition is between the two young members. My only surprise is the lack of musical success for V but that might change once he changes his tune. This is a space I am keeping an eye on. Honestly I am also interested to see where Hobi lands because he has a lot of potential too. Overall though, it's always been those two from the beginning. And seems to be those two now too. I would be interested to see how they would both fare if they got exactly the same roll out.

Look what I am trying to say is that I am not being mean to the rest of the members to agree with the sentiment above. Maybe that will be change but I don't see that happening. I have always thoughts that JM is a glue to the group, I felt that while watching the AYS EP three as well. He has something and that shows in their content as well as peoples reaction to him. Yes he gets a lot of negative hate but only people like Jimin who stand out get this type of hate because deep down a lot of people are insecure about him. Yes a lot of them act like he has no impact but deep down they know that he has too much impact. We all know it, Army know it, solo fans know and the company knows it too. I am just unsure why the company is being stupid but I hope one day Jimin tells us why!!

you absolutely devoured this. i have nothing to add

[solarwynd]

It's a comfort for other solos to believe that all of Jimin's fans are bots as if we didnt regularly see the huge crowds he drew when he was at Paris fashion week or Tiffany ny or at various airports. Or acting like him posting random things like a pic in a japanese restaurant didn't inspire a trend of people posting in the same pose at the same table or that the places he visited in Jeju didn't become part of a small ritual for armys who visited the island.

Also online armys might be taekookers and hidden ot6 yet offline you'll see his dad's cafe become a required visit if you're an army in busan and we saw the crowd there when BTS had their Busan concert. Also every member has fan clubs who do special projects during birthdays and I've seen some very expensive ones put out by Jin and V solos or cafe events like for other members but I don't think I've every seen a members birthday become a month long celebration in Korea ever like it is for Jimtober nor have I ever heard of possible crowd control measures being discussed because of the crowds at magnate during his birthday.

Antis have to keep chanting threemin otherwise it's embarrassing to realise that most of the replayed parts in BTS videos were Jimin's parts or that he started the trend of most viewed fancams. And in these situations we saw that after making concentrated efforts, other members numbers started goibg higher. And yet Jimin's the one with bot allegations when he's the one always starting trends like these organically and other members tend to go higher when their fans start doing whatever they're doing because they're mad at seeing Jimin on top.

Also regarding Thai streams, there's a reason we look upon it with suspicion. Love to all the Thai pjms streaming but the numbers from that country are weird as hell with the huge debut numbers or sudden 500k increases and decreases that can happen from there if it's a members songs anniversary. I dislike how Indian armys are so clearly biased towards only two members of their favourite ship but atleast those numbers are consistent just like the US numbers are consistent for Jimin. The majority of your streams coming from certain countries like the US isn't weird when they're well known as major music markets. Antis trying to equate Thai streams and US streams doesn't make sense for that reason.

Anyways my point is Jimin is everywhere in real life. Beyond followers, he's always in the zeitgeist whether it be in Hollywood movies or having things specifically named after him like the Jimin effect, or having hit tweets from actual locals (and not just armys masquerading as them), or having his merch constantly sold out.

Tae might be more popular among kpop stans and as of this moment, JK might have more name id globally than the other members but acting like Jimin is always behind them in terms of popularity only works if your criteria is very narrow - as in let's ignore how well his music sells and charts, or how often he's name-dropped specifically by other celebs or publications (NYT mentioning him for their year end events for ex) but according to other solos let's only focus on social media followers and Tiktok edits. To me that doesn't make sense - if Jennie from BP has more followers, Tiktok edits and live viewers than Olivia Rodrigo, will that make her music more popular than Olivia? Those things aren't nothing but stans also completely overestimate how much they matter as well

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[nitewrighter]

I think the reason a lot of Batman writers don’t focus on the whole “detective” aspect anymore is

1. They may think fight scenes are more exciting than investigations. I mean, ask a stereotypical comics fan what’s more exciting, the hero and villains in a climactic showdown, or the hero dusting a place for fingerprints.

2. A lot of Gotham’s major criminals tend to be fairly obvious. You go to a crime scene, the victim has a ghoulish smile, and the place is covered in playing cards and graffiti that says “ha ha”, doesn’t take a genius to figure out the joker did it.

Or “this man was frozen solid” or “these people were attacked by a mutant Venus fly trap” “who could have done this?”

That’s not even getting into the times villains hijack tv or radio signals to outright “announce” their crimes.

I mean I get that--I think the other issue is like, because you have this costume/gimmick factor, a lot of the mystery isn't "Who did this?" so much as "WHO IS the Riddler? WHO IS the Scarecrow?" etc etc." And then he finds out who they are and, while the stakes may get ramped up, the modus operandi doesn't exactly change. I think that was also the weak point of Hush (Also the fact that the romantic subplot of Hush largely boiled down to Bruce going, "Hm. It seems I have feelings. Inconvenient."). But the thing with Hush was like...

Batman: WHO Is the mysterious new villain who is setting up all these crazy complicated encounters between me and my rogues?

Me: Is it your childhood friend who just showed up?

Batman: My childhood friend who just showed up is DEAD!

Me: Oh shit. Well now I guess this is an actual mystery.

Batman: Haha jk it actually was my childhood friend who just showed up.

Me: Oh.

I mean--I kind of get it. Half the fun of a mystery is trying to figure it out for yourself, but basically when characters get as established as Batman and his rogues it does become less about the mystery and more about exploring the various facets of the characters. I do think that's an interesting trend in DC comics, of late--you have a lot of people drawing Dick in the hot pants and pixie boots in order to indicate, "This is earlier in Batman's vigilante career and therefore the stakes are higher!!!"

[starrylayle]

Marauders Fandom > "There is no canon !!" and other rhetorics

Guess who's back in their marauders phase after 2-3 years of being dormant lmao?? ((spoiler its me lol)). Anyways, a lot has changed since 2021 in this fandom so I just wanted to talk about the direction i think it's going.

I remember in 2020-21 the fandom started to boom in popularity on tiktok --> esp with the rise wolfstar + atyd. I remember people were so suprised with remus' characterization as 'rougher around the edges' instead of the 'soft boi' thing, and how that influenced the new wolfstar dynamic. [Just want to add that the atyd characterisation is much more complex than this and its one of my fave fics --> I'm more talking about the fandom at large's reaction to this)

And since fandom is incapable of having two nuanced and characters who are not stark opposites,, their roles were basically reversed and now Remus is the toxic dom alpha male and sirius is the cute girlyboy twink --- which um,,, the oc-ification is so real its embarrassing but whatever (omg don't even get me started on jegulus 💀)). I just assumed these would stay as headcanons. But now we have people saying, that 'we barely know anything abt the marauders in canon' or 'isn't the whole point of fandom to make shit up?' which i have sO many issues with so let me just try and compile my thoughts into dot points for the sake of coherency.

'we barely know anything abt the marauders in canon' ---> First of all, Remus, Sirius and Severus are fully fleshed out characters in the og series -- why do you think people would care enough to create an entire fandom based on their backstories if they were 2d flat characters in canon?? Like bffr. I saw a post on here (forgot who it was by, let me know if u know!) that said, 'I didn't cry over sirius' death in OotP just for ppl to say that we know nothing abt him in canon'. Like, its just mind-boggling to me lol.

'isn't the whole point of fandom to make shit up?' --> Ok y'all. For a fandom to work, there have to be some guidelines, some kind of source material, some point of reference so people can build upon it and make content. I think we can all agree on that. One reason why HP is such a popular place for fandom is the world-building and potential plots/storylines. I see some people argue that jk rowling was a shit writer anyways so might as well contradict everything she says. Now, I don't disagree with that point in particular, Jo is a pretty mediocre writer and a terrible person. HOWEVERrr, I'd argue that it is a lot more fascinating when people expand or work on the concepts in HP. JK Rowling has a lot of great ideas but executes them terribly -- I love when fic writes do this, which prolly explain why I love atyd as it is still very much canon compliant but executes themes on class, disability and queerness that jkr could barely do in subtext. This doesn''t mean I only think canon compliant fics are valid. That's not the case! I think as long as the charcterization is consistent to the character and the particular circumstances/world they're in, its fine! In fact, I love seeing how the same character would function if in a different place! I also love seeing explorations of the magic and magic systems in aus or fix it fics (or even canon compliant ones) that still fit in with the canonnical system that we know.

I guess what I'm trying to say I wish the marauders fandom explored the world and charcterizations more deeply instead of creating shallow oc-fied version of the characters that fit into whatever's trending -- like just write your own book or smth lol -- booktok will eat it up i promise.

Also, kinda related kinda not but um,,, why are we romanticising fascists -- like babe no evan rosier is not your babygirl he canonnoically tortured multiple ppl and became a death eater soo... not saying that I wouldn't want an exploration of his character or even a relationship with barty -- (who's not some cool dairk-haired edgelord but a actually a cowardly fascist murderer with blond hair -- yes the blond hair is important) -- I'd just want them to be portrayed as the not morally good people they are. Like,, if u want to oc-ify a character like pick someone whos not a death eater or has little info on them like dirk cresswell or frank longbottom,,, or ya know,, one of the MANY female characters in the fandom ((This fandom also has a problem with women and sapphic ships in general but that's a whole other issue lol).

I know this 'babygirlification' of death eaters doesn't mean to do this, but it also ends up watering down the themes of oppression, bigotry, etc and leaves us with not nearly as complex characters. Also one of the issues I had with the og HP world is that JK will introduce concepts like wizard racism and slavery and then just like,, not really do anything about it or just have half-arsed redemption arcs whilst not ever actually exploring the root of the issue. And now i feel like the fandom is following in those footsteps unfortunately.

Anyways, i've been rambling for too long so I'll just leave it here. Sorry if this came off as mean spirited in anyway,, I just have a lot of thoughts™ and my family is sick of hearing them lol. These opinions are not set in stone however so I'd love to hear your thoughts on this subject! At the end of the day this is fandom and we're supposed to have fun -- so yeah !! thanks for reading if you made it this far!

[mrs-monaghan]

Some saying watch jk debunk i wanna ask how do you think he's gonna approach this thing? If he even approaches it at all like is he suddenly gonna go live and be like"oh i didn't do this or that" like it's not something as the album recording thing it's just taehyung saying jk sang that song so like do y'all expect jk to go live and say"i didn't sing that song" or something?

Well, pretty much just like in the past when he's clarified any misinformation. Vermin going nuts over something V said and JK going "it wasn't that deep" 🤭🤭 we'll see if one of them comments on his next live and he decides to address it.

But if we have learnt anything, its that V isn't lying. But it could be a bit embelished. However, JK sings for everyone so this really shouldn't have blown up as much as it did. It's not special or exclusive to Tkk. But as usual since the in4 came from V, we don't have context and so the vermin can make up as much as they want to which they already are.

Meanwhile, I just woke up and the following are the dots I'm seeing getting connected;

JK has an extremely busy schedule. We have all seen that. Man is so so busy, jumping from flight to flight that at one point we had him basically sleep walking at the airport

(Poor baby 🥺🥺 no wonder Mimi is worried)

So as tired and busy as he is, he somehow managed to do a TT (🥵🔥💦) which if you've ever been a creator you know it takes several takes to do a TT, but he managed to do one. Then he edited and posted most likely on his flight back. Or on the way to the flight?

Important to note: All he did was upload. There are no new liked videos meaning he didn't have time to peruse and comment like he usually does. So it seems he went on TT just to post this thirst trap 🥵

Quick break to admire his naked back

Okay we're back. He's so distracting. 😩😩

Which brings me to my next point: JK (Jikook) doesn't just do things for no reason. Especially with chapter 2... things just seem to be calculated. Which is why my friends think he's shirtless on purpose. It's a distraction. Because of the biggest clue of them all.... the lyrics to the T-pain Step Up dance challenge

Which brings us back to last night and the 7 minute live where V promised to come back but didn't??? Taekook was trending after his short live and it's been established members see everything. That's not debatable atp. They see international trends as well as Korean trends and Taekook was in Korean trends yesterday so JK definitely saw that. Let's not kid ourselves and pretend he didn't.

To summarize: V came live, did the thing, ended the live quite abruptly, said he'd come back, didn't, then not long after JK posts a hot AF TT with those savage lyrics.

My friend pointed out at the airport he has the same cap and same shoes as the TT

Which of course cements the fact that he did it this morning. Before getting on the flight or whatever.

Anyway anon, saw my friends taking about this because its something JK would do. So question is; Is there something? Or is there not? Don't ask me, I just woke up

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In other unrelated news, anyone else cringing hard at this part?

Ugh. I can't watch it. Its too much 😬😬😬😬

It wasn't this cringe when he did the same with Harlow. 😬😬😬😬😬

[dearweirdme]

So...JK and JM didn't spend time together during this chapter. In AYS, we see JK listen to Who for the first time after it was recorded. And yet...JK is all thru the promo. He was in the crossword. He was mentioned in the interviews. AYS was marketed and pushed out at the same time (we have literal months until they come back).

There's not denying they remain the company backed pair. And honestly, I don't really care about the existence of fan service. It's the nature of things. I care about how, in the eyes of the fandom, it legitimizes one over the other. Made worse by the fact that they are viewed as in competition and it favors the distant duo and punishes the other. So a manufactured crossword is a cute sign of an undying bond, despite the fact they haven't prioritized each other, and Tae so much as thinks about JK, whose lives genuinely intersect, and it's, at best "weird. why does he need to do that? why is he trying so hard?". And this isn't just jkkrs. I see ot7 parroting the company spin. JM farts on JM and it's still a honeymoon; JK and JM are clearly thrilled to have Tae but it's still he "forced his way in"

Hi anon!

I agree. It’s things like that crossword puzzle that are sooo on the nose that makes me dislike the way Bh uses Jkk. They basically use Jkkrs and Jkkrs themselves feel like the company gives them clues about Jk and Jm being together. It goes against reality. The way they edited that one teaser first NY did the same.. starting out with Jm asking if he should cuddle Jk.. and showing a response that’s different from reality.. vastly different even.

Bh knows what works. They know how to bait people and how to get fandom engagement. I don’t think they care about what hate goes around in fandom.. they just see the trends and are happy for so much fandom engagement.

The wildest things to me are the way some things get scrutinized to death (like Jm and Jk in bed) when everything else that happens completely eliminates the possibility of that bedscene being romantic or sexual. Jkkrs have no understanding of context at all. There is literally no need to overanalyze the bed scene when Jm and Jk have literally just mentioned not having seen each other in months.

I think to most of non-shipping army it is so clear that Jm and Jk are just friends that they just joke about it all, but don’t really believe they are together. It sucks that jkkrs get a feel of justification out of that though.

[roo-bastmoon]

Quickie (but important) thingies

I've got like 15 minutes in between CT scans so of course I'm on my phone checking on Jikook because the crazy obsession is baked into my DNA by now. Y'all caught me.

Good news: Jimin is linked back up on Spotify. Well done, ARMY, for raising the red flag high and helping get this fixed today!! Let's always have Jimin's and BTS' backs!

Interesting news: It seems that folks Shazamed JK's behind the scenes video and the song that came up is called H-Thirteen (I can't check because the hospital won't let me access YouTube links). Can anyone confirm?

Request: I'm totally not trying to gaslight, minimize, or police anyone's fandom experience. But it feels like folks are on a hair's trigger out here these days. I get it, especially when it comes to Jimin. He has suffered so many insults over the years.

But before we assume Jungkook is a thief or plagiarist, before we assume his music video will be raunchy, before we assume the worst of any member, could we just hold out a bit for more information? It is possible all these concept choices for Seven are an homage to Jimin and Face. (I'm going to especially think this is so, if the song in the background is number-coded to Jimin and Jikook.)

It seems to me that Jimin has always been Jungkook's inspiration--perhaps even his muse.

And I'm not saying we have to blindly trust or believe the best in everyone. (I mean, I do, but that's me.)

Honestly? I have no great love of Hybe at the moment. I have too many suspicions around all the things that happened after Jimin's Hot 100 #1. But the people who work there are just people; I'm sure most are good and some are jerks, just like anywhere.

The members are also human beings. And human beings are always works in progress.

So I just would like to ask that if something a tannie is doing seems alarming, we say "Hm, that seems alarming!" rather than scream with our whole chests that a member is actively trying to hurt or sabotage another member. Especially when we've had years and years of evidence that BTS really love and trust each other.

Look, every member has flaws; they will make mistakes--sometimes big ones, as they grow. And we have a right to criticize behaviors we don't like. But I guess because of my past family life, I am personally triggered whenever someone automatically assumes mal-intent without asking any questions or waiting for more info to come to light.

Not saying we have to love everyone, or we can't call a spade a spade. I guess I'm just recommending we give a little grace until we get the whole story. I see folks on the timeline who just love Jimin so much, who fear the worst because of the lack of transparency or explanations. My heart beats with you, but I encourage you to hold on a bit longer. Let's see what Jimin has to say about all this.

It's entirely possible that Jungkook saw the way Jimin's hard work and sexy style was amazing but unappreciated by the company and he decided to pay respect to that with his single because he knows he's got the social capital to insist on it.

It's possible that stylists and marketing teams think these looks are the hot, sexy, edgy trends for this year and went with it.

I suppose it's also technically possible that Jungkook decided to "rip off" Jimin's style... and go all-in on payola for radio (which isn't confirmed yet)... and also lean heavily into a straight-acting macho-man raunchy music video (again, not out yet) -- but until we are very sure of any of that, may I ask that we speculate instead of accuse?

If it turns out anyone did Jimin dirty, I promise you I will grab my torch and pitchfork and be second in line (behind Hobi) to rage. But for our own health as a community, and as individuals combatting our own stressors, could we... could we just hang in there and give ourselves some time to do our due diligence before we assume evil or selfish intentions? That's my request.

(Caveat: of course--your blogs, your rules. You get to say anything you want in your space and I will never police you. If I'm really worried about something you're saying or doing, I'll just ask you about it directly. But I won't shade you, I promise. I'm just gently asking us to withhold judgement until we figure out what actually is going on. I hope that sounds reasonable and not condescending. I truly do value different perspectives and would absolutely love to count every person in the Jikook tag as a friend, even if we wildly disagree on things. So please don't read this post as me trying to be harsh or holier than thou. I'm simply trying to say: let's judge based on what is, not on what appears to be true.)

Ah, time to put more dye in my veins. Got to go. Love to you all!

P.S. Jimin smiling so happily while killing it in TikTok challenges is panacea.

[humanuser0613]

Jimin has made it so clear he's single and not currently looking to start a relationship. As the translator told Jon Bellion "he's fine with being alone". Idk why we are picking and choosing sentences he said to fit our narrative and also using translation differnces only when we want something else out of his words . Also the way Jimin expressed himself to Namjoon about not feeling excited and not having had a crush for a long time is also pretty telling along with what he has said here. He said many things including being fine being alone, that how everyone is living alone and can relate to his sincere thoughts too, how him and his friends have similar conversions how they all frel so flat even to have a crush, how him not finding his person is not a miserable situation but just not very exciting. To ignore something vulnerable he told us is not very respectful of his words. These things just fit together. What Jimin said about us getting the wrong idea was exactly us looking at an album about love and a title track about looking for the right person and we could, in fact, get the idea he was looking for someone and he wanted to be in love. But as a matter of fact, he isn't looking. He wants to be the way he is. The album is just a conceptual album about inspiration, love, muses, but the sentiment behind Who and the story Jimin told is his story. Let's not ignore it in the name of shipping Jikook as an actual couple when its almost obvious 90% chance they are not a couple but just closest of close friends.

Me, when I read this:

"he's fine with being alone"

And???

When JK is traveling then Jimin would be alone, IF they're dating, correct?

Jimin was also alone during covid because of isolation rules, correct?

Last time Jimin had a crush:

And look at that .....his crush was Jungkook. 🤔

Hmmm so strange this was in 2014.....

Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔 nine years seems like a long time ago...also strange that it might be hard to remember feelings from 9 years ago.

Especially if.......

2017 is an assumed confirmation of dating and it's 2024 now and they're enlisted together...

Now follow along:

The dating has been going on since AT LEAST 2017. Do you think they'd enlist together if they broke up? So it's been 7 years of dating IF this is the case.

IF they aren't dating and Jimin posted up a glasses selca after k-army asked him to confirm he was dating jungkook by posting his next selca in glasses, does it seem like he's all that bothered by the shipping?

This is also the guy who posted a selca with just 💜 after "hickey" and "kiss mark" trended globally and in South Korea after 👇

I'm not including all this to change your mind about Jimin dating Jungkook. Frankly, you can think whatever you like.

But I, also, have clear reasons for suspecting what I do about those two. So you either came here for attention or because you like screaming into the void.

Please accept this post as an answer to your need for attention and/or reason to keep screaming into the void. 🖖

[peachjagiya]

Fri(end)s had SUCH radio potential. And it has gotten some play (Organic King) but if BH had actually pushed it for radio play, it could have been dominating.

I could even see the gimmick of playing him and JK back to back or in the same segment.

Ok lil secret about me: I have been doing radio in the UK as a side hustle since I was 15 so just under 30 years, god I'm ancient. Note: I do primarily behind the scenes stuff now. So I love radio discussion.

I gotta say I was BAFFLED but also unsurprised. I was really excited when I heard it because I was like ok yeah Layover was so niche, so jazzy but this is RADIO-Y.

The current hits stations (Capital, Radio 1 in the UK) should have been picking it up. A high profile artist with a fully English song (which unfortunately matters 🙄) that isn't like an overtly niche genre? It should really be there!

I don't think I'd have expected it to go to the A or B playlist, honestly. A playlist is usually reserved for like a couple of the HUGEST songs. Regular play during the day, once every couple of hours though it varies station to station. B playlist would be maybe three times a day.

I am not certain but Seven peaked at 3 in the UK charts and I think it was B playlist on Radio 1. Again, not entirely sure.

C playlist is likely once a day and that's where I'd expect Friends to go.

But it's currently not on Radio 1 or Capital playlists at all. 🙃

The trouble is current hits radio stations want to play what's popular and not what could be popular with support. There's no taking a chance on a great song anymore. Radio used to set the trends, now they follow them according to what's popular on tiktok. It's kind of sad.

Also kind of terrible marketing by the radio stations?! Everyone knows ARMY supports people who support us. I think they're fools not to play music with such high profiles and dedicated fanbase.

I think there's a reason and I think it's racism. Kpop artists fight a battle to be seen as anything other than kpop. I can only speak about the UK but I was literally in a store the other day trying to check prices on Face album and it took me ten minutes to realise Jimin wasn't under J. He was literally just under K-pop. As were BTS themselves. Like all of kpop was one artist! When they're fighting that kind of silliness, the songs aren't being judged on quality or voice or genre. They're just kpop and that's a niche radio isn't investing in despite kpop being made up of many genres and styles. Korean isn't a genre, UK music industry 😐

That said, Jungkook did pretty well with a peak in the top ten for all three singles from Golden. So how come he got decent play? I think that might come down to the very commercial sound - absolutely not a critique, I love it - of his music.

But I also think Tae is fighting more internal issues of general nonsense from his label. Basically it's an uphill struggle and I'm so proud of what he has achieved despite those issues. 💜

Ooh I loved answering this. Thank you, anon! 💜

[not-goldy]

i'm choosing to believe that this anon isn't serious 😭

You know why pjms hate jikookers the most?? It’s because you’re always in pjms business, always talking shit about pjms and making us your entire shipping personality.

so we're just going to ignore that at least half of y'all are ex jkkers..??

like we were friends with some of y'all until you decided to blame jk for things the company or the western industry did/does to jimin

You entertain ask disparaging pjms because we do not share the same view with you but I’ve never seen a ‘Jjk said this and that ask’ on your blog but guess what?? Pjms has never dmed other fandoms or locals to drag jk, we’ve never trended tags to free jm from jk, we’ve never tagged millitary defense, we’ve never faked group chats claiming jokers are hating on jm, we’ve never actively find ways to sabotage jk, we’ve never tried to actively turn the fandom against jk, our fanbase has never trended cancel jikook show lol. All these your beloved cousins have done and are still doing.

spent the entire day yesterday watching jjks complain how jkkers never call out pjms and are always attacking jk fanbases, but ok...

we're not going to forget how y'all were acting during seven/golden

the fact you were trying to boycott the travel show, have gotten mad at jimin for posting about jk bc in YOUR minds he should hate him, and constantly taking down about jk in the military

"beloved cousins" when pjms were actively agreeing and spreading tkker narratives about the travel show and jikook?

Y’all will be on pjms case because someone said they don’t like jk, someone dmed saeon, someone said jk payola and other irrelevant shit but these people be doing horrifying criminal shit and guess what they don’t like y’all. I do hope bighit listens to them tho.

y'all are constant in our inboxes complaining about jk

some of y'all use saeon to jokingly ship him with jimin, even though he (saeon) has stated he is not a part of the lgbt+ community and a large part are doing so bc jikook's bond (even platonically) bothers them

jikookers well aware jjks don't like us 💀

90% of them are homophobic y/ns that hate jimin for reasons linked to homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny

"hope bighit listens to them" so y'all don't care about jimin?

y'all hate jk that much, that you're willing to hate on your own fave? bc we've seen y'all complain about jimin interacting with jk, complain about jimin "being a bottom" and not a real man, complain about jimin wanting jk to protect him, insult jimin's intelligence and refuse to like posts bc he showed love and support to jk

Y’all don’t have any allies in the fandom and that y’all being persecuted makes me the most happy. I hope they fabricate another group chat about y’all that is more serious than this that’ll destroy your community once and for all.

Ps: The free jk from jikookers hashtags are cute. I hope they recruit more people to hate on jikook bond till jm is free from you and your cousins Jjk/tkkrs. 😘

do you really think that if y'all get rid of every single jikooker that jimin will stop loving, supporting, and interacting with jk?

"fabricate another group chat about y’all that is more serious than this" so more hate for jimin then? bc that's what these set ups and hate campaigns lead to.

Oh you read all that chileee

Power to you I couldn't give a fuck😹😹😹😹😹😹

[lcftyambiticns]

☁ Have you ever forgiven a partner when you shouldn't have?

☢ What fads/trends are you so over?

☁ Have you ever forgiven a partner when you shouldn't have?

Ohhhh yes, severl times when I was younger — including that deeply messed-up person I mentioned earlier (before the picture incident). Back then, I was overly forgiving, giving people way more chances than they deserved. I still avoid drama like the plague and value harmony above all else! But to maintain that safe, welcoming environment, I've had to learn the importance of setting and enforcing boundaries (which isn't always easy). I'll usually try to talk things out first if I have been interacting with someone for a while, but yeah... these days, I'm much quicker to walk away from people who don't show me the same interest or respect I offer them. My real life is already stressful, and I value my online play pretend space to unwind, sooo if you bring negativity into it, I'm out.

☢ What fads/trends are you so over?

Omg, don't get me started, Owl, DO NOT GET ME STARTED--- OK. 👏 Why do people insist on writing in all lowercase or adding unnecessary spaces between words???? WHY? Why would you intentionally make your text harder to read? Have you ever heard of readability and flow????!!! UGHHH!!!! Jk. Do your thing, have fun, it's your blog after all! <3 Just know that there are muns who can't and won't read paragraphs of spaced-out or all-lowercase text. You might be missing out on amazing RPs because of your aesthetic — and we might be missing out on YOU :c

the salty af munday meme

[thereisnolumos]

One thing that pissed me off about Harry Potter more than anything else: nothing was done about Harry being abused and neglected! Nothing! I would be fine if was because Dumbledore planned it that way and he's suppose to be a villian, or just a very grey flawed person all along who never learns from his mistakes. But no Jk Rowling wants us to feel sympathy for Dumbledore. Dumbledore is good, he just fell for the wrong person. I don't know, I just feel like this isn't just another Jk Rowling is bad at writing thing, but a growing trend in fiction in general when it comes to abuse. Especially child abuse. Unless the person is like a big bad villian(zuko and his father from avatar the last Airbender). People never talk or mention obvious abuse. And even if it's mention. Nothing is done about it in the narrative. The person doing the abusing never gets consequences(unless death, but I feel like in fiction that is too easy) and the person who is abused never addresses it or gets thearpy or help. They are always stuck with their abusers until they are adults. And than they get their happy ending and forget all about the abuse. I just more than anything I wish fiction would talk more openly about abuse. And that the characters that are not out right villians they still get consequences for the abuse they caused. Actual consequences. Not a cheap apology or an easy death. Like jail time type consequences.

JKR’s insistence of Dumbledore being a good character is infuriating. You have written a character that’s constantly uses people for his own agenda, forces several people to be COMPLETELY INDEBTED to him so that they’d never question his actions. Someone who abandons a 1yo for 10 years without checking how he’s doing ONCE and then when that child shows up baring the clear marks of at least neglect and most likely abuse he just… does nothing. At all. Dursleys leave Harry alone only after he, a 13-year-old, scares them with “I have a convicted murderer for a god father and he likes to check up on me”. And that still doesn’t eliminate neglect. Want to tell me that he had no way of helping him? Insuring the Dursleys will treat Harry better?? Come on!

It’s a horrible trend of “you should thank your abusers for making you stronger”. THEY NEVER SHOULD’VE BEEN STRONGER! They should’ve been loved and cared for, and their abusers deserve to rot and get punished.

In regards to Harry Potter universe, I like to think that Dudley goes to therapy and unlearns the shit his parents ingrained in him. And later in life he has a magical child and finds Harry and reconnects with him. And he informs his parents with no uncertain terms that they either accept his child and their magic completely and never diminish them for it, or they can fuck off from his and his child’s life. I can see Vernon going both ways honestly, but I believe Petunia to have learned her lessons and loving her grandchild with all magic and all the things she maybe doesn’t understand.