#jinn (RWBy)

[spahhzy]

Jinn: Oh you again...

Pyrrha: uhm...hi?

Jinn: To what do I owe the pleasure this time?

Pyrrha: Uh...I just wanted to ask a question.

Jinn: Yes, you usually do...

Pyrrha: Don't need to be mean about it...

Jinn: Im sorry... Let me try again...How may I be of service to you, Pyrrha.

Pyrrha: How do you know my name?

Jinn: I am the relic of knowledge... a little name shouldn't be too hard to know...

Pyrrha: oh...

Pyrrha: So I just ask you and you tell me what I want to know?

Jinn: Is that your first question?

Pyrrha: ...

Jinn: Well...since your a returning customer, I'll let it slide, yes ask and you shall get your answer, but three questions every hundred years.

Pyrrha: I only have one,spirit.

Jinn: ...

Pyrrha: How do I stop the Curious Cat and Save Jaune from it?

Jinn: ...

Pyrrha just shuffled nervously not liking the look she was being given.

Jinn just sighed.

Jinn: I always answer this question for you, Pyrrha, but you seem to never like the answer I give you...

[ryuto12]

Never allow yourselves to forget that Ambrosius is always like "I need exact down to the letter details of what you want"

Meanwhile Jinn wakes up every lamp usage and goes "Oh you want the tea? I'll bring the whole kettle"

[short-wooloo]

Holy crap

The four relics (and the entities within) are a compartmentalized recreation of the Blacksmith/Tree

They possess great knowledge

They offer choice

They "Destroy"

And from that destruction comes new raw materials to create

[celticcatgirl2]

“Hello, Oscar…”

“…Oz…I think I might be going through puberty….”

[lwde-encrusted-sideblog]

Jinn: Thank you so much for Rubbing my lamp~ If there's anything of yours that need Rubbing, Don't hesitate to wish for it~

Yang: (Struggling to not say-) MY PUSSY! (God Damn it Yang.)

[toomanyf4ndoms7]

Jinn in the lamp: Hm, I haven’t seen those children in a while. A shame, they’re fun to watch.

Jinn being summoned: Okay, there better be a question for me or so help the Gods-

Cinder and friends: >:)

Jinn: Oh…

[jedidragonwarriorqueen]

i cope with making memes. good thing i already have this series going

[howlingday]

Salem: This world vexes me so... I wish I could stay in your lamp.

Jinn: ...As you wish.

Salem: (Trapped in the lamp with Jinn)

[anthurak]

So I have a hunch that we’re going to find out that Ruby actually has some… special connection to the Relics.

See, let’s consider for a moment the fact that as of the end of Volume 8, all three of Jinn’s answers have been questioned. Which, according to everything we know, means that it should be a hundred years before more questions can be asked, and by extension, before we could see Jinn again.

Now the thing is, I think we call all agree that it is EXTREMELY unlikely that this is the last we’re meant to see of a character like Jinn in RWBY. If for nothing else than it feels like we’re meant to get at least one more vision from her in a big ‘Once More, With Clarity’ reveal.

Like you know the theory that the main reason for the Unreliable-Narrator nature of Jinn’s vision in Volume 6 was because Ruby’s question was ‘What is Ozpin hiding from us?’, meaning that Jinn’s answer was framed ENTIRELY around what Oz knew, or BELIEVED, ie; all the info/propaganda he was told/fed by the God of Light about what happened while he was dead.

So I think it feels like a pretty natural step that we could wind up seeing someone, likely Ruby again, doing a redux of that moment where she asks Jinn a far more direct question, say; “What happened to Old Humanity?”, to get the TRUTH of what really happened.

Which all means that our heroines are somehow going to get MORE answers out of Jinn. And since a hundred-year timeskip seems… unlikely, to say the least, that leaves us with really just two options:

Time-manipulation shenanigans to ‘speed up’ the normal hundred-year recharge, which we don’t have any kind of precedent for at the moment.

Or, it turns out that there are ways of BYPASSING Jinn’s normal three-question limit.

Which brings us to Ruby, who just so happens to have a mysterious inborn power apparently originating from the very being who CREATED Jinn and the other relic spirits.

Basically, I’ve got a hunch that Ruby’s Silver Eyes, possibly as a result of developing/realizing more of their powers, turn out to give her what is essentially ‘administrator access’ to the Relics, allowing her to bypass their normal restrictions.

Like getting more answers from Jinn.

And the funny thing is, we’ve actually ALREADY seen Ruby get both relic spirits we’ve met thus far to, shall we say, skirt the rules a bit.

Ruby got what was essentially a freebie out of Jinn to get herself more time to use her Silver Eyes against the Leviathan: “And while you do not seek knowledge, just this once I was give it freely.” Also note that Jinn’s warning was merely that she would not be summoned ‘without a question’ again. What if it turns out that Ruby is actually capable of asking Jinn more questions? It’s also worth noting that this instance feels distinct from what we saw later when Hazel and Emerald summoned Jinn seemingly for free: Unlike Ruby, Hazel was ‘seeking knowledge’ when he summoned Jinn, and the fact that the so-called ‘password’ worked gave him all the answers he needed, which in turn satisfies Jinn’s mandate to answer questions. Which again feels rather distinct from the outright FREEBIE that Jinn gives Ruby.

And then of course there’s the whole bit where Ruby, Weiss, Blake and Yang got Ambrosius to SUPER-skirt his own rules to make Penny a new body. Which we’re still a bit hazy on HOW they got that to work. Again, given that it was Ruby who summoned Ambrosius, what if it turns out that she was able to get him to BYPASS his normal restrictions?

Another neat little detail to all this is the fact that we are actually two-for-two on Ruby being the FIRST person shown on-screen using each of the relics. She’s the first person we see using the Lamp to summon Jinn, and again the first person we see using the Staff to summon Ambrosius. So I can’t help but think we’re likely to see this pattern continue with the Sword and the Crown.

I realize some of these on their own might feel like a bit of a stretch, but taken together I think we can start seeing a pattern:

Right now, Ruby is two-for-two on both being the first person shown on screen using a relic AND getting what seems to be special treatment from both relic spirits AND just so happens to have a power that apparently originates from the very being who CREATED the relics in the first place.

I can’t help but feel like this is all going somewhere…

[st-whalefall]

Listen, I love the lost fable, it’s great, it’s so much fun, but it’s really misleading (that’s the point) and a lot of audience members take it at face value.

Two things stick out to me as hints that point to Jinn’s vision being not completely, totally, really the absolute truth:

1. In volume 8, the staff of creation/Ambrosias is revealed to be one of those “give you exactly what you ask for” macguffins, after Oscar tries to go back through the portal and it’s shown the portal is one way, a la “A one-way ticket to Vacuo.”

2. In volume 9, we’re told by the tree that the brothers Grimm were “born” simultaneously. The god of light is Not the elder brother. In the lost fable Jinn says, “It was here the elder brother dwelled beside his fountain,“ & “…all while careful to make no mention of [the god of darkness]’s elder,” and we now know this to be false.

Bring these two pieces together (and other things but were focusing on point 1 & 2 for brevity) and we’re meant to find Jinn’s vision suspect.

What did Ruby ask Jinn again?

“What is Ozpin hiding from us?”

So, what Jinn showed them was not The Truth. But what Ozpin thinks, what Ozma believes, to be true.

And the characters took that vision at face value, but we the audience are meant to question it.

[bobauthorman]

Please be aware that Ozpin most likely KNEW Jaune Arc was a total scrub and STILL chucked his butt into the Emerald Forest.

Pinhead straight up tried to kill Vomit Boy just for asking too many questions. At the time, we laugh.

Then Oz-car snaps when Yang needles him about hiding the Lantern being a Grimm-magnet and his lies / secrecy in general. That is when we see the True Oz.

And THEN Ruby asks Jinn what's it all about, and Oz assaults her.

Now it's not so funny.

[brokentrafficknight]

[imatekuani]

I was rewatching V8 You know what would have been funny?

That since Neo has to write Jinn's name for Cinder, she can't pronounce it right.

I mean there are so many phonetic differences between languages (freaking silent letters in English, multiple accents in French, multiple ways of reading the same character in Japanesse, etc, etc, etc), and while I know we have not had any language barrier between the kingdoms, I just want Cinder being like "Gin? Sheen? Gene? Eugene????" while trying to get it right and Neo and Watts being done with everything.

[celticcatgirl2]

“Oh…”

“…hello ladies…”

“…I think we just came in unison….”

[pilot-boi]

hares breadth Au

Im assuming when they asked Jinn what Ozpin was hiding they also asked what happened to Jaune or how to fix him and maybe Jinn doesn't know about the Ever After and is genuinely stumped and can't answer

They don’t ask how to fix Jaune. They have more immediate things to worry about at the moment. Like Ozpin lying to them over and over for instance

They also, as much as they hate to admit it, don’t want to waste a question asking about Jaune when other than the whole jackalope/coming back from the dead thing, there doesn’t seem to be anything wrong with him

It only becomes more of an issue AFTER they hear from Jinn and find out the exact terms of Salem and Oz’s immortality. Because that’s when they realize “Oh wait fuck, Oz didn’t do this. Did the gods? What actually the fuck is going on with our friend?”

That being said, I don’t think Jinn would be able to tell them how to “fix” Jaune, because as far as the universe is concerned he’s not broken. He’s alive, his soul is intact, and he’s on the path to become the Rusted Knight. Nothing is wrong

She’d be able to tell them why, that he was brought back to correct a potential paradox in the timeline. Or she could even just say that he’s the Rusted Knight. But those answers undoubtedly would only raise even more questions that they now wouldn’t be able to ask Jinn since her two questions are up

So no, I don’t think they would ask Jinn about it. Jinn would definitely be able to tell them, but I don’t think they would ask the question

[but-a-humble-goon]

I legit appreciate that they made the relic spirits such shameless thirst magnets. Feels like RWBY throwing down the gauntlet and saying there's absolutely nothing wrong with horny, horny is awesome. You just need to not be creepy and overbearing about it. Check it, we got giant blue naked people.