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jojoblessed365 · 1 year ago
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For those who miss So Far Away.... Here's the highly anticipated sequel!!!!
First 2 chaps out now!
Tagging @ernestonlysayslovelythings as my lovely co-writing partner on this and dedicated to @disasterbiwriter
For those who would like to visualize Doula, here's a picture of the actress I had in mind:
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teddypickerry · 10 months ago
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au! where jess is a protective older sibling taking care of a little sister/brother like they’re his own WHEN.
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frazzledsoul · 6 months ago
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honestlydarkprincess · 2 years ago
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evan 'i specialize in scratches' buckley, you have no game but don't worry, eddie and i are still in love with you
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jojoblessed365 · 2 years ago
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Love this fic!!!!
Let the fun begin!!!
Kudos to @mrsmess for the excellent writing!!! Thank you @iscahmckrae for the lovely headcanon.
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💛 Gigi Hayden and Doula Danes 💛
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anxiouspotatorants · 2 years ago
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Hi.
So I reread your headcanon of Doula being a rebel like teen Jess, and I would like to add something -
So I read in a Medium article of how siblings, when even despite being given the same treatment from parents, they end up becoming two very different people; they cited Luke and Liz as an example.
So I was wondering- could this mean that Jess and Doula can become mirror versions of each other even despite experiencing different versions of Liz as a mother?
So... For example, Liz ran to New York and raised Jess as a single mom, and Jess had to do most of his growing up on his own; so maybe Liz and TJ are romantically entangled that they don't pay attention to Doula, and she's supposed to take care of herself and doesn't tell Luke or Lorelai, because she feels like a burden. And then, there's the relationship between Liz-Jess and Liz-Doula, where the former is somewhat complex and the latter parallels ASP's fraught mother-daughter/daughter-in-law relationships (Lorelai-Emily, Midge-Rose, Fanny-Michelle from Bunheads) but Liz is the immature one and Doula is the one who looks pained but has the final mic drop (you can see that in GG season 2 episode 2; Mrs Maisel season 3 episode 8, and Bunheads episode 11).
In terms of Jess and Doula's relationship, it could parallel Luke and Liz's, but sometimes it can parallel Lorelai and Rory's relationship, where Doula says something and Jess is inspired in many ways...
I also think Doula and Rory should have a love-hate relationship, where Doula doesn't like the way Rory is very indecisive in choosing Jess or Logan and she gives her a very rude awakening/ shake up like Jess's tough love talk in GG 06x08. But then, she shows that she cares for Rory in different ways like encouraging her to pursue Jess or even help babysit Rory's kid and listen whenever Rory feels low.
What do you think? I would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks. 😃
So it's been a while since I came up with my Doula headcanons so I don't quite remember my reasons or if I imagined that a rebellious Doula was going to live in a AYITL-canon world. I think what I was mostly interested in was how Jess is sort of unique on the show when it comes to being such an outcast in town. I liked the idea of a grown Jess seeing his past replay itself with another teen and him standing up for that kid and sort of healing his inner child through that experience.
I also think it would've been a great excuse to get to interrogate Liz' parenting and what this was truly like. Because we sort of take for granted that she either 100% sucked or that she was just some goofball based on how we as viewers interpret the hints and references to Jess' childhood and her love life before TJ. But we never get a proper canon dive into how Liz was as a mother to Jess, and I think showing how she raises or fails to raise Doula could force that into the light.
I also just liked coming up with a different approach to Doula because at the time I wrote that headcanon I had only seen headcanons about Doula where she was a very ideal little sister who was mostly there to help set up Jess and Rory, and one thing I love about Gilmore Girls is how so many side characters genuinely get to exist outside of the romantic plots. We would not have characters like Lane or Paris or Sookie in the capacity that we have if all ASP and crew cared about was writing Rory and Lorelai's romantic storylines and their conflicts with Emily and Richard. So I'd like to think a teenaged or grown up Doula would get to be her own character with an actual arc in relation to her brother, if the show had continued in some way. And teenage rebelliousness felt like an obvious but solid route to go.
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stellaluna33 · 2 months ago
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I know that I've written fanfiction depicting a sweet relationship between Jess and Doula, his younger half-sister, as have many other wonderful writers, and I have my reasons why I think such a relationship might be plausible, but just as a reminder...
This relationship is a COMPLETE Fanon invention with absolutely no mention in Canon.
The show itself never indicates that they have any kind of relationship, and the Palladinos either neglected or forgot to mention Doula AT ALL in the Revival. So... All I'm saying is, keep that in mind if you feel tempted to compare Jess's situation to Rory's, over the fact that the show didn't portray much of an on-screen relationship between Rory and Gigi and may have forgotten to mention her once or twice.
Anyone who has interacted with me here KNOWS how much I love BOTH of these characters, but I just think it's extremely telling that the fandom reacts to Jess's lack of an on-screen relationship with his half-sister by INVENTING ONE and saying, "Well, SURELY they had more of a relationship that we couldn't see!" ...and reacts to Rory's lack of an on-screen relationship with her half-sister by concluding "Well, she must not love her half-sister!"
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jojoblessed365 · 1 year ago
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So Far Away From Yesterday
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Jess has had to deal with a lot of blindsides in his lifetime, but he wasn't prepared to become a widower and the single dad of a six year old daughter in one afternoon. Spiraling in grief, he moves back to Stars Hollow to be closer to Luke and Doula. Five years later, Jess is still attempting to get parenthood right- his daughter is in the early stages of adolescence and his teenage sister thinks it's time for him to move on. What happens when he crosses paths with Rory? Is it the universe's way of telling him that his story with Rory isn't over yet? Or will he continue to be faithful to the woman who left him six years prior?
A first collab with the ever talented @ernestonlysayslovelythings!!!
You have been nothing but the best with taking an idea I had out of the blue at 2 am and then waking up to find you have written the first chap and making me cry!!! It has been so inspiring and exciting working with you on this one!!!
Strap in folks- it's a bumpy ride!!!
Check out the first chapter here:
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the-overreactress · 3 months ago
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I really wonder what Jess thought about No Child Left Behind, particularly as a high school drop-out. Like, does he tell self-deprecating jokes about how he single-handedly foiled W. Bush’s plans to keep all kids moving, regardless of whether they were ready?
Probably later on, 2007-2016 era, he was a little more willing to consider this seriously and get his GED. I want that for him. But I also want for him to be his critical, mocking self in the face of less-than-ideal education policies. Maybe he finally confronts why traditional school didn’t suit him, be it a possible ADHD diagnosis, the structure, or his unwillingness to participate in anything where he knew he’d be ruthlessly mocked. Maybe all three? Maybe he really fights for Doula and Rory’s kid and any other kid in his life who doesn’t automatically excel in school, but he knows is smart and capable in a good environment. What if he VOLUNTEERS and tutors or something? Maybe this is all too ooc for him, but I WANT it.
Anyway, thinking about Jess Mariano challenging the American education system and its failures is my new favorite past time.
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teddypickerry · 4 months ago
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do we have a doula fan cast/headcannons or do all of us just collectively not give a shit about her? (unless it includes big brother jess) gonna say it’s the latter.
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mrsmess · 1 year ago
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teddypickerry · 4 months ago
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this is adult jess trying to figure out bereal
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This would be adult Jess trying to use facetime 😅
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alyheartsjess · 8 months ago
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unpopular gilmore girls opinions (non controversial edition)
-doula is a cute name. maybe it’s because english isn’t my first language and i didn’t know what a doula was, but i love how it sounds
-jess’ unkept season 4 hair is the best, unmatched. i’m sorry that you couldn’t afford hair gel baby, but you looked great
-i can’t fully hate TJ because he reminds me of joey from friends
-i like dean more than logan because at least when i watch dean, i don’t have to sit there knowing there’s actually people rooting for that guy
-april is a saint and an angel for totally just happily going along with everything
-rory’s fuckass bob was fine after it had grown out a little. very her. it’s really just the events associated with the bob.
-there’s not one fully healthy parent on the show. like try and name one
-the best example of luke not being a great conversationalist isn’t the april situation, it’s the fact that him having a sister who also was a teen mom never came up until his seventh year of being friends with lorelai
-there’s nothing i need more than clarity about what happens at stars hollow high. like sometimes i need that more than literati going on dates scenes
-lane and zach are fine
-i hate jess’ brown coat even tho everyone shot me down on my last post talking about it
ok that’s it for now
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frazzledsoul · 10 months ago
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A non exhaustive list of terrible things Liz Danes did/said after she showed up:
- Makes a beeline straight for the pot the minute she shows up
- Hasn't called to check on Jess once in the nine (!) months he's been gone from Stars Hollow
- It's established that she generally has a terrible track record with men/employment/stable housing
- It's also established she is easily able to manipulate Luke into doing her bidding and in pretending that every new terrible idea is no big deal
- Makes a show of introducing Jess to TJ and acting like she's the best mom ever despite his obvious discomfort
-Makes several statements to Lorelai to the effect that Luke has been cleaning up after her for her entire life and finding her jobs, apartments, helping her out financially, getting rid of dangerous men
- To quote Jess verbatim: "I don't like this guy. I don't like any of the guys. She doesn't give a crap what I think. I've got nineteen years of proof to back me up". She always chose her men over him, no matter how terrible they were.
- Luke is involved in sussing out Jess's whereabouts and living situation, giving him a place to sleep (thanks to Lorelai), offering him money to fix his car. Liz is not involved in any of that and doesn't offer. She signed off on being the parent a long time ago.
- Liz shows back up for the wedding and immediately manipulates Luke into helping arrange the wedding, selling jewelry in the diner, inviting strippers to the diner...when she's around, he ends up doing her bidding almost automatically. Zero boundaries.
- There's more references to her sketchy self-employment and the many times Luke watched it fall apart.
- Luke's the one who goes to New York, finds Jess, has him go back to Stars Hollow as a favor to him. No comment from Liz on his lifestyle or offering him a place to stay. Luke is the only one who fights with him about it. Luke's also the one to give him romantic advice as Liz is not involved in that at all.
- Liz reveals her romantic history right before the wedding. Second husband was okay, third husband was not and died mysteriously, boyfriend after third husband was also okay. This is also the only wedding she's not been drunk at.
- Liz assumes Jess broke Rory's heart even though she has no idea who that is. Lorelai steps in and defends Jess, saying it just didn't work out.
- Luke is roped into taking care of Liz and TJ for several weeks after they are in a car accident and following them around on the Ren Faire circuit. I only mention this because he is, as always, forever her caretaker.
- Liz and TJ get into a screaming fight early in S5 and ruin Luke and Lorelai 's date.
- Sometime in S5 or S6 Liz mentions that she's never made dinner, not once. Jess is around 20 years old at this time period. How did he eat?
-Liz manipulates Luke into letting TJ work at the construction at Lorelai's house. She cries and throws a tantrum until he gives in. TJ somehow knocks a big hole in the upstairs of Lorelai's house.
-Liz does not show up to Jess's open house, nor does she ever mention it (or him at all) afterwards. Luke shows up to support him and tells him he's proud of him. Mom can't be bothered.
-When Liz finds out she's pregnant with Doula, she casually mentions to Luke (in public!) that she binge drank while she was pregnant with Jess. Luke isn't shocked by this.
-Liz claims to Luke that TJ abandoned her after she told him she was pregnant. Luke goes to TJ and TJ reveals that Liz got violent and threw half the household objects at his head and kicked him out when he was excited about it. Luke goes to Liz afterwards and she rants that if she stays with TJ her kid's going to end up ruined and she'll have to send it away. Luke is the one who reminds her that Jess turned out OK and that he's actually doing great (not that Liz has any knowledge of this at all or should receive any credit for it). Liz and TJ reconcile.
- Liz and TJ invite Luke over for dinner in early S7. Their stove is broken. He has to make dinner himself (because of course he does). Despite formerly being supportive, they tell him Lorelai was bad for him and Liz says some mumbo jumbo about how they were never meant to be together. Luke runs into Lorelai at the grocery store and says the whole thing was a bad idea and he'll be civil to her, but he's not interested in a personal relationship again. Lorelai basically doesn't go anywhere in town she could run into him for the next six months (okay, the romantic advice isn't terrible per se but Liz is seriously inconsistent on this issue).
- Luke attends Doula's birth. Liz is excited about April being a free babysitter.
- Liz dumps Doula on Luke at work a few weeks after she is born because she "needs a break" and disappears for hours.
-Liz and TJ invite themselves to stay at Luke's apartment some weeks later, shortly after Lorelai and Christopher have broken up. Now Liz is all excited about Lorelai and Luke getting back together (pick a lane, woman).
-In the series finale, Liz tries to dump Doula on Luke at work AGAIN (how often does she do this?) Luke stops her before she can leave, and makes her take the baby with her.
-Liz and TJ are mercifully offscreen for AYITL. Jess fulfills the role of being Luke's sounding board and attempting to comfort him when he has problems with Lorelai and there are already enough quirky townies, so she isn't needed. TJ and Liz are involved in a mysterious vegetable cult that they eventually get kicked out of, which provides a reason for Jess to come into town every so often. He's now the support to his family that Luke used to be on his own. It's implied that this is not the first time TJ and Liz have gotten involved in a cult over the past few years
My point to all of this is that Liz is not stable, she's not a decent person, she has not "redeemed" herself, she may be clean and sober but she's still horribly selfish, unreliable, and a pain in Luke's ass. There's a bunch of stuff that is implied in Jess's behavior that indicates she was a horrible mom, but we don't get the full picture until she shows up. The full picture is...a lot worse.
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lolabelinda · 2 years ago
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Analysis of scene: AYITL Fall "Rande Gerber hot"
Okay, so I just have to talk about this scene after rewatching it recently.
Jess is sitting (quite comfortably) in the Gilmore's house. Now to me this feels like he's been there before, I mean after he left Stars Hollow to live elsewhere.
He says to Rory he hasn't seen her in 4 years, but presumably he's been back to the Hollow a fair few times to visit Luke, his mum and sister Doula and likely just missed Rory those times because she was in NY or travelling.
During this time I'm guessing he spent some time at Lorelai's house and even spent time with both Luke and Lorelei.
We can tell this because even though Lorelei makes several negative comments about Jess throughout the revival ("throw a ball with, not at") I think a lot of that is just habitual banter, kind of a joke that they've never gotten along.
When Lorelei comes in to ask about ordering pizza she points (I think???) at Jess and says "extra cheese?" implying she is familiar enough to know his pizza preferences.
She could be pointing at and asking Luke, but being how much of a health freak he is, it's unlikely he would want extra cheese.
Then she protests when he goes to leave and blows him a kiss (!!!)
I mean I do think she is extra happy at this point in her life, so maybe she doesn't want to be annoyed by him. But all these things are very friendly and familiar and I believe were written into the scene to show the audience how their relationship has evolved (especially if they are trying to set up the whole Rory/Jess relationship that's implied for the future).
I wonder how he feels being there, with his history with Rory (although we rarely see them spend time there when they are together) and sitting there surrounded by pictures of her.
Also, why is he there?
I am guessing he has been asked to be Best Man to Luke (which is so cute to think of Rory being Maid of Honour also) and is there to try on his suit.
We see that Miss Celine was there on an earlier day with all the clothes and I would say maybe if Jess had a specific suit it would've been kept there until the wedding.
Jess may have already tried it on and then is waiting to see Luke's. He still has his bag, so presumably he's just arrived in town.
Although when Rory enters (and you'll notice he looks up from his book at this point) she doesn't seem surprised to see him so I'm guessing she already knew he was there.
Although Lorelei doesn't seem surprised either, so maybe they'd seen a bit of him in the lead up to the wedding (or it just didn't work for the flow of the scene for either of them to acknowledge his arrival).
Also when Jess leaves he says "back at 10?" Implying he is coming back the next morning, I'm guessing to get changed for the wedding.
I recently saw an interview where Milo talks about that last look he gives Rory through the window. He was basically saying you know, he didn't know what it meant, read into it what you want, but that Amy just asked him to look lovingly at Rory.
It's funny though because to me that is not a loving look. Like it is, but to me it's a longing look.
There is love there too, but if it was just "oh we shared something special and I'm remembering that but I've moved on" sort of look (which is what Milo implies) it would probably be more warm, smiling, satisfied type of look.
But no way... He looks sad, longing and loving. Almost even regretful.
The whole scene is the best ❤️
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jojoblessed365 · 2 years ago
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Hail to the king, baby!!!!
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king of sass.
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