#jennette lovely princess

[roseapov]

Concubine

Jennette x GN!Reader

Tw: murder, obsession, stalking, power gap, power play, power abuse, degradation from position

Action is taking place during the Lovely Princess (the 1st life)

Povtober 2023, Day 29 [Masterlist]

Jennette de Alger Obelia, the beloved crown princess of the Obelian Empire and the older sister of Athanasia de Alger Obelia, who is considered a forgotten princess.

And truthfully so, she is very much forgotten indeed. People of the Empire and their shared father cared only for their sunshine, future ruler.

Yet there was one person, one that Jenette desired most, and that wasn't Ijekiel. It was you. Whenever you were in her vicinity, the world around her didn't matter, no one else mattered, not even her father.

She was never able to catch your eye the way she wanted, all you saw in her was a friend at most, not even a close one, much to her dismay. Yet it never changed the fact that she loved to observe you.

Your whole attention was always directed to her sister, making her blood boil. Your visits were always for Athy and never for her. Do you really see her unworthy visiting? Unworthy of your companionship?

What did she ever done to you? You act so distant, it makes her heart clench in pain. One day she finally gathered the courage to ask you, what her younger sister had, that she hasn't.

She had much more of everything! What was the thing she was lacking? Yet the answer...

Your answer was nothing she could ever be prepared for, you loved her sister. You loved someone else. Her sister and not her. You didn't loved her.

She started to tremble from anger and frustration, fists clenched, eyes starting to water yet any tears never fell down her cheeks. She run away from you, before you could ask any questions, making you pale from the threat of death for making the precious princess cry.

Ever since then you were strictly forbidden from seeing your love, making both of you confused, yet inwardly you knew the reason very well, your inetraction with older princess never leaving your mind.

Athanasia never truly knew the reason for this, unlike Jennette, but that never stopped her from seeing you in secret, as she also held feelings for you.

Ever since then the older princess was always at your side, taking the place of her rival sister. The two of you grow closer with the flowing time, even after your doubt at the start. Much to her delight.

You even get so bold as to ask her for perimssion to have a sleepover with her in the castle, of course she wouldn't dare to refuse you.

She would've refused if she knew that you would sneak out at night just to meet with Athanasia.

Later on, the day of the coronation had finally came, and with that day henceforth the Obelian Empire welcomed its new ruler, Jennette de Alger Obelia.

And her first order was to make you her concubine...

No one honestly expected it, seeing you two as close friends, but the shock on your face told them all they needed to know. It was all one sided. You couldn't believe your ears, hoping that they have failed you, instead of believing what was happening.

No one would tried to do anything about it anyway, if their newly beloved queen says so, it shall be obeyed. You were left at her mercy.

The nobles that you were part of earlier, pitied you and your injust end. From being respectable and renowned noble to mere plaything of the empress, with no worth.

The only plus of this situation was the fact that you got your own palace to live it, meant for the new royal concubines, instead of living together with the emperor ones.

Speaking of the empress, she loved to spend all her free time with you. Visiting you every evening and calling you to herself on busier days.

It was great for her, the perfect harmony.. Until she caught you meeting with Athanasia. All hell broke loose.

The one person she was always trying to be better than, you were seeing her being her back, without her knowledge. That made her erupt with fury, and the next thing you know, a head rolled.

The head that once belonged to the Athanasia de Alger Obelia, the second princess of the empire, now laying on the dirt.

You couldn't say no, now your words hold no power, making you forever stuck at her side... Besides, after seeing what she had done to her kin, you don't want to risk anymore, do you?

It was so hard to find good pics of jeweled eyes Jennette TwT

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

Supposing lp Jennette had not been accepted by Claude she would have ended up at worst sentenced to death for being a traitor's daughter and at best an outcast because she's a bastard child. If Claude or the Imperial wizards reveal that Jennette is a product of black magic, she'd be branded as a monster forever and even if Claude decides to spare her life, the church might request her execution or take the law into their own hands with regards to Jennette.

She can forget about her marriage with Ijekiel. Her engagement to Ijekiel hinges on the condition that the Emperor will welcome her as the second princess into the Imperial family and without his father's pressure on him Ijekiel won't indulge her crush on him anymore. Without Ijekiel's protection the noble girls will feel free to pull Jennette to pieces. Her isolated life behind the walls of the Alpheus residence barred her from making friends that would support her.

Would someone as greedy and self-serving as Roger let her remain in his house after her failure? He has no reason to, except to protect what little is left of his reputation after pulling a stunt like that in front of the assembled aristocracy. He might try to send her away to distant relatives she has never met or to the countryside until the excitement in the capital died down. Jennette might have been allowed to stay but her budget would have been cut short and she would have to live a little better than a servant. She has no life skills except for doing embroidery, cooking and cleaning. Jennette was literally raised to be someone's trad wife, but now no one will want to marry her. Whoever inherited the Judith fortune would have wanted her gone too. Officially she didn't exist for 15 years and now she has appeared out of thin air and has a right to a portion of the money and the need to request it. There is the possibility that Rosalia's husband or any other relative would send an assassin after her or blame her for a crime which would make it impossible for her to inherit. They could trick her somehow into relinquishing her right to the Judith fortune that should have been evenly split between Rosalia and Penelope.

Had Jennette protested against Rogers plan or messed it up, she would have lost everything. LP Athy on the other hand never had Claude's love. Whether Jennette had appeared or not, Claude would have continued to answer Athy's attempts at affection with cruelity. In Jennette's mind she did nothing wrong. "There was nothing she could have done for her half-sister."

Evading the Imperial wizards, shutting down those who question her paternity and accuse her of bastardy, getting harrassed by men every time she steps outside, enduring the bullying of jealous noble girls, dealing with the repercussions of her unconscious black magic use without being able to ask someone for help, keeping Claude from murdering people in cold blood. LP Jennette's life might have been a fight for survival just like Athy's.

[sylver-drawer]

“Jealousy at the Tea Party” Part One 👀

[atlaszxu]

Honestly in the manhwa the relationship between Jennette and Anastacius was way more interesting for me to read. Re-read the manhwa a while ago and I realize it’s because the relationship feels more genuine? Claude and Athy’s “good” relationship is based around how well Athy had acted when she was younger and Claude kinda viewing her as the last of what remains of Diana instead of Athy as her own person.

With Anastacius and Jennette, Jennette doesn’t have to do anything. He wasn’t a good dad since he was being possessed by an evil spirit but he did show moments of care that were warranted completely by himself and not because of Jennette acting or really doing anything. I think it’s why to me, Anastacius becoming a better dad to Jennette would’ve felt more genuine than Claude and Athanasia.

[dyinggirldied]

Saw this dress on Pinterest and instantly goes LP!Jennette. It shares the same structure (the ring of bows on the chest, the willowy sleeve tied by pink bow, the flower on the dress, etc) and color palette which you can compare with the pics below.

I like it, very beautiful but also mature and regal, something I think adult Jen would have wore for special occasions

[brotherslayer]

*grabs you by your shoulders and shakes u* After LP Jennette's death everyone will forget her. When she ceases to exist her hold over them collapses. The happy memories others have of her were a fabrication, the Jennette they cherished was an illusion created by her magic to make herself feel loved. Everything up to her beauty was fake. After her funeral no one will even remember what she looked like. They will return home wondering why they treasured that ordinary orphan girl so much, why they wasted their time and money on her. Jennette has nothing. She was born alone and she died alone and everything in between was a collossal lie. Isn't that fucked up?

[bvnga-aprikot]

in a way, Jennette reminds me of the of the phrase "a moth drawn to a flame" with how desperately she clings onto the idea of the Obelias as her 'family'. while i never got to reading the LP side-stories, the way other people describe how she mainly despised Claude because he was the one who killed her 'father' (since in the novel she was not at all related to the Obelian line) and therefore deprived her of her true family really enforces this idea.

the phrase is also interesting in the fact that obviously, the moth will die if it gets closer to the flame. i wonder if her black magic blowups are symbolic of this; Jennette's emotions over her desire of a true family gets to her head and it causes harm to others (particularly Athy and Ijekiel) and herself. she becomes selfish and feels entitled to her feelings, feeling shame for hating her loved ones but still not feel guilt at the same time. i think the departure from her novel counterpart made the circumstances of her original ending different for manhwa!Jennette, she isn't really the same Jennette and having the same exact ending play out when Spoon already made so much changes to her characterization made it not mesh well i guess...

[shxrry-blossom]

HAPPY NEW YEAR PEOPLE 😭

[roseadleyn]

jennette margarita;

❝ do we ever think of each other at the same time? ❞

❝ you didn't go through all that for nothing, and neither did i. so let it hurt, and then let it go. ❞

tagging; @histxricaldrama, @amxto, @lxdymoon0357, @that-one-pretty-bitch, @d10nsaint, @hmerus, @izumi-astra-123, @erebus0, @hadiacake, @writerig, and @fuoon.

[yvonneloveposting]

Screaming crying LP! Athy dying and coming back as a vengeful spirit. She haunts Claude the most, though Duke Alpheus and Countess Rosalia also get haunted. They say the screams you hear coming from the Emperor's quarters in the dead if night belong to his dead daughter, pleading for him to look at her just once.

But also. Nice spirit Athy. She makes Jettie's flowers the slightest bit more colorful, she tries to give Ijekiel what good luck she can. The paint on Kiel's walls is chipping? Not it's not. Jennette's tea leaves are being delayed? Never happens. She is angry, she is hatred and despair, but she is still kind and gentle despite that. She hates her father, but she loves her sister and her...not just friend.

[ultramarine-spirit]

Spoon's Q&A, fun facts and more! (NHK Culture Center Class)

As promised, I have translated the contents of Spoon's NHK class. This post includes answers to the Q&A, fun facts and interesting info I noticed from the session.

Disclaimer: Unless stated otherwise, these aren't direct quotes, nor a literal or complete translation of the whole class (it was over an hour long, it would have taken me much longer...), it's a summary. Also, Spoon talked very fast, so while I fact-checked my notes with native speakers and translators, I could have made mistakes.

Many thanks to my friends @carlachen and @ mananokobako on Twitter for sharing their notes with me!

Q&A

Q: The outfits featured on “Who Made Me A Princess” are very beautiful, what’s the process behind their designs? [Note: This was my question!]

A: When designing the outfits, Spoon researches the appropriate aristocratic costumes and dress codes, mainly from the 1870’s and 1880’s. She also uses material collections, books about clothing and web seaches, and used them as reference for details and hairstyles. In fact, this process could get very research-intensive and take many hours, something Spoon hadn’t anticipated, so she thanks the readers for liking them and taking notice of the clothes’ details.

Q: How did you come up with the name "Spoon"?

A: A friend recommended it to me, saying that the pronunciation of the word "spoon" was cute and that it suited my illustrations.

Q: While there are happy times when you draw manga, you must have also experienced many difficult and sad times. Is there anything that gave you the strength to overcome those difficult times?

A: The words of support and feedback from the readers gave Spoon strenght. When she heard that one of them was able to overcome depression after reading "Who Made Me A Princess", she was really moved to tears. Another happy event she remembers was when a foreign reader sent her a letter and a gift through the publisher company. She was so grateful that they would come all the way here [Korea], and also thanks the publisher company.

Q:  What’s the most important thing to focus on while doing art, and is it needed to receive formal education or one could be self-taught? This may be a contradictory question, but what do you do when you lose interesting in drawing or you don't want to draw? Also, what’s your favorite type of ramen? [Yes this is the correct translation lol]

A: Spoon believes that the most important thing while doing art is to complete your work. If you don't complete it first, you can’t find flaws or bad points in your art to improve. Whether you learn by self-study or by attending art school, if you can become a professional or not depends on your effort. Try to be as specific as possible in your goals, and think about what you need to do to become better at painting than you are now. When Spoon is feeling unmotivated, she thinks to myself, "If I take a break now, I will regret it later, won't I?".

Among Korean ramen, a type called of sesame ramen called "Chamke ramen" is Spoon's favorite.

Q: I was always impressed by the beauty of Spoon-sensei's paintings. I wanted to know if there is an artist that influenced your art.

A: Spoon’s style has been influenced by the art of Naoko Takeuchi [Called it] author of Sailor Moon, Ikuko Ito, creator of Princess Tutu and animation director of the original Sailor Moon anime, and Katekyo Hitman Reborn’s author, Akira Amano [In fact, Spoon is a big fan of the series. You can check some of her old fanart here]. Spoon says that she respects them very much.

Q: Do you have any stories, manga, TV dramas or anime that have been greatly influential for you?

A: Studio Ghibli’s Nausicaä and Laputa: Castle in the Sky, and Disney’s Moana, stories where the female protagonist has adventures and overcomes adversity. Spoon thinks those stories of growth are really wonderful.

Q: What’s your favorite anime?

A: Spoon likes all the films directed by Hayao Miyazaki.

Q: The person asking this questions comments that, after reading "Who Made Me A Princess" they gradually became interested in family stories in which two characters who were indifferent before become close and come to cherish each other very much. Their question is, since there are many combinations and genre settings, if there's a particular pattern or setting that Spoon personally likes.

A: Spoon likes to see a character change depending on emotions such as love and friendship. Emotions are intangible, but they have the power to change a person's personality and behavior. She thinks that's what is so wonderful about it.

Q: At what stage do you draw the shadows? Do you add them in from the beginning or in the middle [of the process of painting]? Also, when do you start thinking about putting shadows in there? I would like to know if there are any points you are conscious of when drawing.

A: Spoon adds shadows when she is considering the surrounding lighting of the drawing. Even if the object in particular is a flat surface, it's important to paint it as if it were three-dimensional. In order to get better at this, it's absolutely necessary to carefully observe photographs to see the way in which shadows are cast when an object is exposed to light.

Q: When you are drawing, which part do you like the most?

A: Spoon enjoys when she is putting the finishing touches the most. She is filled with a sense of accomplishment after completing it.

Q: In some scenes, Athy does a swirly gesture with her arms when she is embarrassed. The person who asked this question doesn’t quite understand it, as it’s not something you see in Japanese manga, and would like Spoon to explain it a little.

A: [Spoon shows gifs of Korean TV shows where the participants make a sort of “grabby hands” motion] Spoon laughs and explains that this is a common physical way to convey embarrassment, surprise or cringe in Korean culture [If you search “오글거리다” you can find some examples]. The word used literally means that your limbs "shrink", so that's where the gesture comes from, but it can also be used in other situations, such as being horrified, in pain or cold. In Japan, this is usually represented with goosebumps.

Spoon elaborates about how certain cultural differences are fascinating. For example, when someone is talking about a character behind their back or in another place, in Japanese media the character will usually sneeze. On the other hand, in Korea that kind of situation has the character’s ears suddenly itching.

Q: The person asking the question says that the way in which Spoon draws jeweled eyes is very beautiful. They want to know how did Spoon think of that idea, or if she developed a process of creating them.

A: How she would draw the jeweled eyes was one of the things that Spoon worried about the most. What she wanted to convey was the feeling of a “cut gemstone”, and how precious, shining and beautiful the eyes look [Here she explains it while doing “cutting” motions with her hands. Think something similar to a karate chop]. She did her very best and is glad that she got a good response from readers.

Q: Athy and her friends looks so beautiful and cute in the dresses they wear. I would like to know what was the most difficult or honestly troublesome dress to draw in your work.

A: The coronation dress was very difficult and time-consuming to draw. At that time, Spoon had to do a lot of things at the same time, such as revising the physical version of the webtoon, so there wasn't enough time to do everything at the same time, but Spoon was happy that the effort she put into it made it look gorgeous.

Q: Who is your favorite character to draw, or the easiest to draw? And who is the most difficult to draw?

A: It’s Athy, because she’s gorgeous and cute. But Spoon also greatly enjoys drawing Lucas. Drawing him is fun because he is handsome and has many expressions. On the other hand, it's difficult to draw cautious characters because their facial expressions don't change much. However, she says that all of the characters are beautiful and elegant, so there’s no character that Spoon dislikes drawing.

Q: What is the most important thing for Spoon to draw in “Who Made Me A Princess”?

A: Spoon expands on the themes of “Who Made Me A Princess”, about the various relationships within the family that wasn't connected to one another. She thought that even if the characters shared blood, they hadn't been able to communicate, so they could only become a family if they thought about each other. And even if they are not connected by blood, if they care about each other they still can become a family.

Q: The person asking the question goes over how the color of both Jennette and Anastasius’ eyes changed once Lucas removed their mana. Jennette’s eyes became green like Penelope’s, while Anastasius’ turned black. It seems like the jeweled eyes are related to the characters' mana. So, if they didn’t have any magic, would Athy's eyes become a beautiful and mysterious color like Diana's, and Claude's eyes would become almost brown like his mother's?

A: Spoon elaborates about how the way in which a person’s eye color is determined is very complex and tricky, as it has to do with genetics, but in this setting it indeed relates to the royal mana. If Athy didn’t have any magic, her eyes would look like Diana’s.

[Note: This is also shown with Aeternitas’ cloudy jeweled eyes, since his mana was very weak].

Q: The person asking this question asks Spoon why was Diana a dancer, and if she could get a little more into Diana’s character, her past and what type of person she was.

A: Spoon imagined Diana as a minstrel or a wandering artist. Like a ballerina in a famous theater troupe who tours, she travels with her dancing and singing, putting on shows in different countries to earn money for her travels, so Spoon characterized her as a free soul.

Q: Obelia is called “the land of eternal springs and summers” in the last chapter. Does that mean winter doesn’t exist there?

A: Spoon says that indeed, there’s no cold weather in Obelia. That's why the characters don't have winter clothes. However, as there are a lot of cute designs for winter clothes, she would like to draw an illustration of the characters in winter clothes in the future.

Q: What your schedule is like when you are working on the series?

A: Spoon exercises as soon as she wakes up, for about 2 hours, eats dinner when she gets home, and starts working right away all the way until she goes to bed.

Q: It’s very rare to see Claude in uniform or tight clothes. The person asking the question wonders why Claude's clothes are so bare and asks Spoon if she could elaborate a little on his fashion sense.

A: Claude used to be a prince who wore his uniform properly, but after meeting Diana, he came to like the more casual or loose style of clothing. So Claude's fashion sense comes from Diana’s influence on him. Even when he didn’t remember her, he kept wearing such clothes because of that influence, and also because he genuinely likes them.

Q: Who’s Spoon’s favorite guy?

A: [With no hesitation] Claude.

Q: How did you improve your drawing skills before becoming an illustrator?

A: Spoon used to emulate her favorite artists and draw fanart.

Q: Do you have a favorite japanese word?

A: When she was traveling in Japan, Spoon was impressed by the name “Nippori” [Referring to Nippori train station]. She looked up the meaning and thought “Oh, so that’s what it means!” [Note: Nippori means “place where the sun sets”]. In Nippori, she didn’t do anything in particular, Spoon just passed by it on the train.

Q: "Who Made Me A Princess" has great clothes, but I also like the flowers that appear in each scene. I know some of them problably don't exist, but is there a flower that you use as a model?

A: It was a long time ago, so Spoon doesn't remember much, but she tried to draw beautiful flowers with overlapping petals.

Q: Is there anything that Spoon-sensei takes special care of in terms of physical condition?

A: Her wrists. Spoon demonstrates how she does her stretching routine. She also takes supplements when needed.

Q: I love Athy's hair color, it's so soft. Did you have any difficulties or problems deciding on that color?

A: At first her hair was a little darker, but Claude's hair is a dark blond and Athy's is a light blonde. So, in order to make a difference between them, Spoon lightened Athy's hair. She had a hard time fixing it so it wouldn't be too bright.

Q: What do you keep in mind about color schemes when you paint? They are always beautiful and I'm always fascinated by them.

A: Spoon tries not to make the color scheme too dark or complex [This answer was hard to hear, it could mean too dark or complicated/oversaturated].

Q: A question asking for commentary on the characters' expression and they way in which Spoon draws them. The answer focuses on Claude’s expression when Athy collapses in Chapter 18. The comments mention how Claude’s perspective of it in Chapter 102 was very moving and made everyone cry. [Here Spoon showed the panel of Claude’s surprised face].

A: That scene was especially difficult for Spoon. It's a precious scene that shows how Claude had allowed his heart to worry about Athy. It was quite difficult because she had to give the expression a “Claude-like” quality and be careful to not deviate from his personality, but she also had to express how shocked he was. But it was a lot of fun despite the difficulties.

After reading the comments saying that this scene made everyone cry, Spoon adds that this is her favorite scene in the webtoon.

Q: The last question of the class. What will Spoon do in the future?

A: Spoon was thinking of going back to being an illustrator after the serialization of “Who Made Me A Princess” was over, but after the encouragement and happiness she received from readers, she decided to continue as a cartoonist. Look forward to seeing her next work!

Spoon realized that it makes her very happy to see and meet readers who are happy to read the manga she drew. She will continue to create good works as much as she can. She ends the live part of the class thanking us readers.

Q: At what age did you start drawing? [Note: The following questions are direct quotes. Because they were provided in written form, I was able to faithfully translate them].

A: My parents told me that I was very young, ever since I was able to hold a pencil, I was already drawing.

Q: What made you decide to be a cartoonist?

A: I have always dreamed of becoming a cartoonist since I was a child, but I thought it might be difficult, so at first I aimed to become an illustrator. After a while of working as an illustrator, I was asked to make my favorite work into a webtoon and decided to become a cartoonist.

Q: What’s your favorite manga?

A: I really enjoy reading Dungeon Meshi [Delicious in Dungeon] these days.

Q: What’s your favorite Japanese food?

A: I like sushi and ramen / I like cheese and creamy foods. It’s not good for my health… But it’s delicious, isn’t it? ( ;ω;   )

Q: When did your current art style take form?

A: After I started working as an illustrator and studied styles suitable for the genre (mainly romance fantasy), I guess… It’s not completely set in stone, it’s still developing.

Q: I’d like to know what’s your average working time per day.

A: Basically 8 hours, sometimes more than 12 hours when the deadline approaches.

Q: What software do you use for illustration?

A: I use Clip Studio Paint by CELSYS.

Q: Please tell me how to draw jeweled eyes!

A: I posted a tutorial on YouTube. Please watch the SoSpoon channel! [Link to the tutorial]

Q: Please tell us about Athanasia’s daily life!

A: Athy enjoys having tea and cake while performing her duties as princess. She will also play with Lucas, who shows up from time to time.

Q: Did you expect “Who Made Me A Princess” to become so popular in Japan? Did you work with the intention of expanding to overseas from the beginning?

A: At first, I didn’t think about publishing overseas. At that time [when the serialization began, in 2017], it wasn’t a time when overseas expansion was very active [referring to how back then, it wasn’t common for manhwas to get translated into other languages]. I was very happy that Japanese readers enjoyed my work, and I’m looking around for feedback with a lot of gratitude. Thank you so much for all the love.

Q: What does “Who Made Me A Princess” mean for Spoon-sensei?

A: The webtoon “Who Made Me A Princess” is like a benefactor to me. Thanks to this work, I was able to receive a lot of love. Thank you so much.

Q: Have you been asked to make an anime adaptation of “Who Made Me A Princess”?

A: Yes. I heard that it was ranked the 2nd manga that people want to see animated in Japan. Thank you very much.

[This year, “Who Made Me A Princess” has also been nominated to receive an anime adaptation. Read more about it and vote here!]

Fun Facts and Other Info

I'll answer what everyone is probably wondering about first: No, there was no mention of the side stories. But also, no one really asked about it. It seems to be a sort of taboo topic among japanese readers, and since there is some kind of issue with their publication, nobody touched the subject to not ruin the happy mood.

Apparently, Spoon received over 1000 questions for the Q&A.

The NHK translator mentioned that there were students from many countries!

Spoon gave a quick overview of her working tools. They include: a Cintiq 27QHD (tablet), two Dell monitors, and a Streamdeck. She also mentions using a 24-inch pen now, because it's easier to use.

Spoon has volume 9's cover as her PC's wallpaper.

Spoon's voice is very cute! But wow, she talks so fast. Taking notes was very challenging.

She seemed to be shy but was very happy and looked healthy! The first thing she did was thank the readers for all their support and for giving her strength.

There were many comments about how cute the gestures Spoon made were. I agree!

Spoon has a ton of WMMAP merch. A whole bookshelf filled with it, and I believe she had at least one item of... everything. Even the chinese exclusive merch.

She also had a bunch of WMMAP volumes, both normal and limited versions!

Spoon has a special brush for drawing blushed cheeks, and it's in fact not pink but orange and light red, with the contours being lighter.

She had a very cute crab pencil holder. She said it was a gift from her assistant. Spoon likes it because it has a cute shape and she loves cute things. Like this (green one):

Most people already saw, but the results of the popularity poll for the character people wanted Spoon to draw were: Athy in 1st place, Lucas 2nd, Claude 3rd, Ijekiel 4th, and lastly Jennette 5th. The numbers of votes weren't revealed. Spoon drew the following illustration to celebrate:

That's it for now! I've been told that the class will be re-streamed soon (though I don't know if it will be made public or just for those who paid), so I'll try to watch it again and chat with friends that attended the class to see if I can add more interesting information to this post.

(February 4th, 2023 Edit) With the invaluable help of my friend @ mananokobako on Twitter and listening to the class again, I was able to translate new questions and improve on the past translation. I hope everyone can give it another read!

[nympyah]

a girl destroyed by herself, decaying and floral. beside her stands a boy responsible for her loss and demise.

[sharper-than-a-serpents-tooth]

honestly I think Claude and lp Jennette's relationship was nearly not as a bad as wmmap Athy and Claude's. Do I think there was projection? Of course it's Claude we are talking about. But I don't think Claude had ever troubles differenciating Jennette from Penelope or thought they were the same person. I imagine Jen and Claude's mental illnesses and traumas cancelled each other out and their relationship was weirdly wholesome as a result of that.

[sylver-drawer]

Talking to someone about LP Jennette and I am sick and tired!!!!

What do you mean LP Jennette “ignored Athy’s feelings and neglected her”???? “She stood by and never defended Athy from humiliation and harassment from other nobles”????? “Pushed work and expectations onto Athy inconsiderably”????

LP Jennette did none of those things. She was one of the only people who gave a damn about LP Athy, constantly visiting her and checking up on her, knew that Athy was capable and smart and respected her for it.

But you know who did do these things? SBAPOD ATHY TO SBAPOD JENNETTE! Athy remarks multiple times and acknowledges Jennette’s loneliness and longing for family, but she always internal monologues on never fulfilling those desires and keeping Jennette at arms length while IN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH TELLING HER “I love you” AND “I missed you”. Like—that’s definitely leading Jennette on, right? Acknowledging multiple times someone’s love for you while also fully acknowledging you’ll never return that affection, and then giving said person false hope by verbally or physically AFFIRMING THAT AFFECTION HALFHEARTEDLY??? Like. That’s worse than ignoring Jennette’s feelings. That’s straight up acknowledging them and then trampling on them.

In addition, while LP Jen checked up on Athy out of concern when she retreated early from a ball right after she was being harassed by noblewomen (that she didn’t even witness), SBAPOD Athy repeatedly leaves Jennette to ‘fend for herself’ when Jennette is being targeted by noble ladies??? Never taking Jennette’s side when noble ladies straight up accuse Jennette of incest, and selfishly hogging Ijekiel’s attention and burdening him??? And again, while previously internal monologue about how Jennette shyly blushes in regard to her pure love with Ijekiel? Like. Who’s really ‘not defending’ someone from humiliation and harassment. And this also adds to the “pushes expectations onto [her] inconsiderably” claim, because Athy full on says in text that Jennette needs to ‘learn to defend herself’? From incest accusations and targeted remarks?

And that’s not even getting more into the point of “invalidating/being inconsiderate [her] feelings”. In LP when Ijekiel asks Jennette if it’s normal for Athy to unusually apologize for something, Jennette’s response is that it isn’t unusual because of her character that Jennette knows well at this point because of their closeness. She responds based on her own personal experience and connection to LP Athy’s personality and feelings that Ijekiel is not familiar with. Meanwhile in the novel’s main story, while romanticizing Jennette’s love for Ijekiel, she simultaneously compares Jennette’s long and accumulated feelings for him to the feeling of getting princess treatment from a servant?

Everything bad I’ve heard about Novel Jennette and her LP Counterpart, I’ve somehow found in Novel Athy’s character instead, and no one talks about this. This has to mean something, right? Or is this another case of raging misogyny literally changing how readers perceive a story and its characters.

[lithi]

Chapter 24 and 32!

Jennette’s flowers on her hair were added back and Roger + Kiel’s poses/arms were corrected. The lighting is also different.

[dyinggirldied]

<< Athanasia, with her gloomy and foggy disposition, and Jennette, bright and cheery as the sun. >>