#jekyll x Utterson fan art

[urban-swan]

What if Jekyll and Utterson kissed? How would you feel about that?

I mean it is pride month after all.

[lemonadehtwooh]

Original version I made here

Decided to redraw this meme lmao

Sprites under cut

[ilovemrhyde]

Since s0urbat won’t answer any of my questions, will YOU tell me what you dislike about the glass scientists so much?

ok sure by the way ive only read the first chapter before i got extremely bored and didn't bother to read more so if i get some things wrong feel free to correct me,

1. i hate how jekyll and hyde have different minds..? if that's the word??? i mean how hyde can speak to jekyll like he's an entirely different person. it seems more like a DID situation in the comic rather than jekyll being a shitty person and transforming into hyde to fulfill these shitty deeds, they're two different consciences in the comic.

2. the hyde design is ass im sorry, its a good design in general but it doesn't seem like it's good for hyde??? i mean he's described as fucking ugly in the book like so fucking ugly while in the comic he just screams twink (same goes with jekyll **WHY IS HE A TWINK HES 50 YEARS OLD** but someone told me that in the comic he's 30 is that true if it is that makes no sense what an odd choice to do)

3. ok don't cancel me but its victorian times right? why is every character I've seen queer, like don't get me wrong yes queer people have existed for the longest time possible but EVERY character I see in tgs is queer. like im gay myself but i think it gets to a point no?

4. i hate the fact that utterson only appears like once in the comic and that he's an easter egg character, i understand that he's the main character of the strange case of dr jekyll and mr hyde so they decided to not involve him, but he still contributes alot ALOT to the plot of j+h (im not writing the full name again.) so i hate that ALSO WHEN HE DOES APPEAR HIS DESIGN IS FUCKING UGLY. this may be biased because he's my favourite character so haha...

5. the art in most of it is lowkey so ugly im sorry that's my opinion, i don't want to read a comic if the art style is genuine buns in my opinion.

6. i don't like jekyll x lanyon, that's just my opinion and i know the comic really pushes it, i don't want to read something that involves a ship i don't like you get me? i just don't see it happening but that's my opinion

mike oxlongs full statement of the case

i like posting hate about it just for fun since i geniually have nothing better to do LOL, i don't interact with tgs stuff at all, it appears on my tumblr feeds and fyp so i always skip it. i just like ranting about stuff i hate to my 4 tumblr followers. and as some tgs fans said they think my posts are funny so i guess in the end it all depends on humor. thank you for listening to my rant if ive gotten some things wrong please tell me

[victorianandthespian]

I make an offering

(Also this drawing was inspired by this song)

[ohnothewheatisonfire]

ok J&H Fandom, let’s talk:

“Popular” blog @thatsmyhyde​ is a prominent creator in the J&H Fandom. But here’s where the problem shows up: 

the content they make is concerning at least, and full of red flags at worst. 

DISCLAIMER: This is all information I have gathered through their tumblr blog - I am not aware of what other things they may be posting on other social medias or their written work.  ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: Please be polite, I am a minor, and am just creating this post to ward off / warn other minors from following this person. If you are an adult interacting with this post and blog, be mindful of your actions and be responsible

Trigger warnings for: discussions of homophobia, discussions of p//phillia, fat-shaming, fat-phobia (?), etc. Just be on general edge for this post, we’re talking about a lot of weird stuff

I will be linking their posts as I am not going to take screenshots of their art.

This is not a comprehensive list of all the things they’ve done - these are the ones I could think of and was able to adress. If you have anything additional you want to add to this post (such as concerning things they may do on other social media), feel free to reblog and add on the things you need to say, just please don’t be dumb. 

Let’s start with the premise: Henry Jekyll creates an alter ego, Edward Hyde. They begin a relationship - an emotional and physical one. Their AU features Jekyde (A popular ship in the fandom, the name stands for Jekyll x Hyde), people have various views on this ship. 

So far so fine, right? Here are the problems:

1. Their Henry Jekyll is an awful person. Now, let’s start by saying that of course you can have bad people in your works, those are, after-all: villains. The problem is,Henry Jekyll is a harmful walking gay sterotype, and an outlet for Biscuit’s obvious fat fetish. But their relationship isn’t just toxic it’s romanticised in how toxic it is.

a. The harmful stereotype - Their Henry Jekyll has a “thing” for younger men, even though he is in his middle-ages, and Hyde looks like a young child. (Age gap relationships are their own thing - they come with their own burdens, and this is not the post to discuss them. This topic will lead into the Edward  Hyde section of this post.) But, it was a known homophobic scare-mongering tactic of straight parents to accuse everyone who is gay that they are ‘out to prey on your youths’. This is a stereotype that stigmatized the LGBT community, and still harmfully affects them to this day. 

b. The fat fetish: Jekyll is frequently seen with cake (as seen here, here, and here)  or being self-loathing, to the point of suicide. (click the link here to acess a list of suicide and other crisis hotlines! you matter to me!). Now, the self-loathing could be a symptom of depression or other mental illness, so I am not going to talk about it, as a person with mental illnesses.  But the self-loathing in addition to him being fat is not good. Media is drowning in the “self-loathing fat person” and as someone who isn’t thin i’m tired of seeing this. 

- The fetish aspect comes in him constantly being referred to “Chonky”, a term usually used for overweight/obese cats and being drawn obsessed with cake. It fetishises his weight and dehumanises him into something people call their animals. Also, here’s more of Jekyll eating food and being embarassed by it, though this time because it’s seen as “servant’s food”. 

- Biscuit admits to liking them “Big and chunky” in posts like this. 

[Photo id: A string of texts that says: tantok, frankenstein, twink lore, dorian slipped through the cracks and got himself sketched by yours truly the other day because he brought lord henry along, he and the slime didn’t have to fight to the death because they’ve both got their own chonky old toxic henries to focus on, but this blog still ain’t big enough for the two of ‘em. end id]

- They also talk about how they ‘prefer’ to draw fat (chonky) people. Image attatched above. the thing that should be noticed is that they say ‘chonky old toxic henries’ . they, once again, are making fat people a fetish. 

[Photo id: Anonymous asks: are you gonna make a victor design tho biscuit responds: Oh, man, anon, I hate to disappoint but.....probably not. Aside from my non-humanoids and hellspwans (slime gremlins, corpse creatures, and etcetera), I’m extremely uninterested in drawing young thin men. I really need middle-aged chonk to hold my attention. If poor Victor Frankenstein had only been 40-something and round when he made his great creation, then he’d definitely get a design from yours truly. As it is though, he’s not holding my attention enough to want to. end id] 

Biscuit once again talks about how he doesn’t want to draw ‘thin men’, because he is only interested in older ‘round’ people. He, is, once again, bringing to light his fetish for fat people. 

2. Edward Hyde is basically a child - Edward Hyde is drawn in boy’s school clothes, is taken in and raised like a child after Jekyll’s death, and is constantly cooed over by the creator, even earning a nickname of ‘slime’ from them. In addition, he also has ‘family photos’ taken with Utterson, has his toenails kept, is the height of a child, and teeths. This, paired with the fact that he is in a toxic, abusive, relationship with a man in his middle ages is concerning and should not be romanticised. 

[Photo id: the text reads: In his first year of existence, Hyde lost teeth and regrew them in a mildly similar fashion to a kid losing baby teeth - except it wasn’t all of his teeth (Just the canines and some random molars) and they weren’t replaced with a larger set, just with teeth exactly the same as the ones that had been lost. No one knows what was up with this. the teeth are still in Jekyll’s study in a little jar. end id]

a. Hyde is treated like a child after Jekyll’s death. Hyde teething is concerning because that’s something infants do. He also clings to utterson like a child. The idea that he gets taken in by Utterson, whisked away to an estate out in the country, despite both of them having romantic feelings for Jekyll is. how do I put this: WEIRD. (seriously, imagine your father/father-figure dating ur significant other / having a crush on them before you two got together and after). 

b. Hyde dresses like a child, whilst being sexually active and wearing lingerie. Now, on their own, these traits aren’t a problem - but together? They are very much a problem.  

- Hyde dressing as a child is concerning because he is also treated like a child at certain points in their “lore”. After Jekyll’s death, Hyde becomes a singular entity, and is taken away by Utterson. To care for, like a child. This post sums it up well: he wears both children’s clothes and lingerie. 

- Hyde has a very strange appearance - if you compare it to his early design (which was less cartoony and looked more like a man in his twenties), Hyde’s current design is concerning. Why does he have the height of a child? Why does he have eyes that take up a grand part of his face? Now, one could argue that ‘he is not human’ - but if he is treated like a human, whilst wearing children’s/youthful clothes, teeths, and his general enchanment with the world - he appears as human (and looks eerily similar to a child), which is why him being sexually active, wearing lingerie, and being friendly with prostitutes (one that gave him underwear and other articles of clothing)  is concerning. 

- That said, Utterson is directly talked about being ‘adopted into gremlin fatherhood’ (paraphrasing). 

[Photo id: the text reads: 59. Jekyll is irresitibly attracted to everything about Hyde, but if he could somehow be forced to list hte most attractive physical attributes of Edward Hyde in his opinion, aside from Hyde’s youthful appearance in general it would be his eyes, his overbite (Jekyll perceived the way Hyde’s-) the screenshot cuts of the rest of the paragraph. end id] 

- Jekyll has a ‘thing’ for younger men. This is to the point that the most attractive part about Hyde is that he is young. (or looks like it), Hyde looking very young is concerning because that would make their verison of Doctor Jekyll a p*dophille . This is something the artist has either not recognized, realised, or simply does not acknowledge. 

3. The toxic relationship (and how it’s romanticised) - The relationship in this ‘AU’ is: love comes first, toxic nature comes second. If you scroll through the blog you may see some reference of ‘Henry Jekyll is such a toxic person teehee’ and a lot of them kissing, being together, smiling, or enjoying life. Now, obviously, an artist - if they do not want to - should not draw characters being toxic to each other. But it is concerning when the above points come into a factor, that the toxic nature of their relationship comes second to the highs of their relationship, at least on their blog. 

Here is one of the only examples I’ve seen of Biscuit talk about the relationship in a detailed negative light. 

4. The fandom - Whilst Biscuit says it’s ok for minors to interact with his blog (in that blog he says that he tags nsfw - which is true.) he does not regularly mention that his jekyde is toxic - not in a concerete way. He romanticises it (despite acknowledging it’s flaws), and the only way it may or may not be (i would not know) acknowledged is his fic: which is mature and not meant for minors. He does not tag his posts with regular triggers for things like: alcohol, drugs, mental illnesses, or abuse (any variants). They’re not even in his blog’s description! If Biscuit had acknowledged it in his blog, something along the lines of: “Hey! This blog has <content warnings> be warned when interacting! But no, he does not. 

- A lot of the people who draw things, or generally interact with Biscuit are minors. Being exposed to such a thing may be harmful to my peers, and I am worried. To minors who are fans of Biscuit: if you’ve made it this far, thank you, I know you’re mature and responsible, but being exposed to content creators like Biscuit could lead you down a dangerous path of having this kind of thing normalised to you. Be careful with the content you consume, please! And thank you for making it this far, I’m sure you’re a lovely person :)!

Thank you for taking the time to read this! Stay safe, tell the people you love that you love them. 

[starlene]

I can’t ever draw just one of these in a row.

Some of my thoughts/headcanons about Jekyll/Hyde x Utterson under the cut!

So! Thought it would be interesting to write down some of my current thoughts about this ship, because even though I’ve had the basics of my headcanon down for years, I keep changing my mind about the details... So this is how I feel about them in summer 2020!

In my mind, taking the constraints of the musical into account, and keeping in mind all my headcanons are based on a production where unrequited Utterson/Jekyll was canon and they were both in their late 20s, I think there are two ways this ship can go:

1) Unrequited until the end

Jekyll and Utterson have some history together, some years ago (this much was implied by the production, and the rest of this post is just piles of headcanon slapped on top of that.) Utterson’s been in love with Jekyll for heaven knows how long, and in my headcanon, there is certain potential that Jekyll might one day reciprocate that. Instead, though, he actively decides to repress and ignore those feelings... except for this one time.

So after their brief fling, they go back to a faux status quo where Utterson is still deeply in love with Jekyll but half believes, half pretends to believe that Jekyll doesn’t know it, and Jekyll knows it, but 100% refuses to ever think about it. I think they’re best friends for real, so both have a real fear of losing the other and thus a strong motivation for keeping this up – but since I like to headcanon my musical Jekylls as selfish bastards, I figure Jekyll also thinks Utterson is potentially useful to him with all that legal knowhow and whatnot, so that’s an extra incentive for him not to cut any ties.

And this is how it stays until the end of Jekyll’s life, with a mountain of things eternally left unsaid. (Somewhere deep in my ship tag, there are some short fics & comics that explore this scenario further, go find them if you’re curious – I still stand behind those stories, even if I would do the art differently today.)

2) Dark kind of romance

Musical!Hyde is pretty big on the whole having-all-the-”forbidden”-sex thing. I’m not saying that’s a fantastic interpretation of Stevenson’s original character or anything, but that’s what we have in the musical, sooo... with that in mind, let’s take my headcanon number 1 and expand upon it!

If we assume that somewhere deep inside, Jekyll is – well, not in love with Utterson, no, but repressing some feelings that could blossom into something more one day, and also vaguely aware of Utterson’s feelings, plus definitely thinking his best friend is kinda hot... I think it’s not too far-fetched that as Hyde, he’d go hitting on Utterson at some point.

I think this starts happening after Utterson finds out Hyde’s true identity (the musical makes it look like that happens the night before the wedding, but for this headcanon, let’s assume Utterson confronting Hyde and Jekyll giving Lucy’s letter to Utterson are two different events set a couple of weeks apart.) Jekyll is probably avoiding Utterson altogether by this point, so Hyde’s all that Utterson’s getting. He jumps at the chance.

Hyde’s certainly not an attentive lover, and Utterson sorta loathes himself for giving into his advances. He’s feeling the insult in Jekyll only sharing the very worst of himself with him on this intimate level, but at the same time, he feels it’s actually him who’s taking advantage of Jekyll here, because the man is clearly ill and Hyde’s a symptom of that illness, and the real Jekyll wouldn’t want to do what they’re doing. But he’s been in love with Jekyll for so long, and the wedding is still happening, and by the looks of it, the man might be dead next week anyways... so by this point, he’d rather have the very worst of him than nothing at all.

So for some weeks, they keep up this relationship, fueled by lust and shadowed by a strong sense of staring into the void, standing at the brink of a deep dark abyss. And indeed, soon enough, the void closes around Jekyll/Hyde and Utterson stays behind, alone. (This is the universe for almost all of my ship art, because with this story and these characters, I’m largely not one for happy AUs.)

~

P.S. Do I wish they would properly explore scenario number 2 with Lucy in the musical – having her state that she knows full well that Hyde is Jekyll, but still rather has him at his worst than not at all... but noooo, that would simply be too interesting a conflict for a female Frankhorn character. Boo. I don’t really want to make fan content about a scenario like that, though, because the whole sex worker thing gives it a nasty non-consensual spin – with Utterson, it’s dark for sure, but they’re still both in it 100% willingly.

P.P.S. I think drawing these two is so relaxing to me because a) they remind me of some good times – better times, really, in some ways b) it’s relaxing to draw things you know how to draw, and seeing they’re pretty much the only thing I’ve drawn regularly during the past few years, they’re honestly the subject I'm the most comfortable with atm, sorta requiring less active thought than many other things would. Uh. Yeah.

[urban-swan]

Omg omg guys it’s that time of the year again-

Happy Anniversary to our boys! 💕💕

(5th July.)