#janet hamilton

[18-2024]

This woman:

Killed Her Kids: (Physically/Spiritually)

Then they got possessed by another soul:

In two different shows

[sapphic-agent]

Why is Simon able to see Maddie?

I've been thinking about it for a while, and I think I might have an answer.

*SPOILERS AHEAD*

Let's start with what I don't think it is. I'm 99% sure that it's not because Simon's dying. There's speculation that he has a tumor or undiagnosed cancer causing him to slowly die and that's why he's able to see Maddie. But I have two issues with that:

Why is he only able to see Maddie? If him approaching death is what enables him to see and talk with a ghost, why is that only extended to one ghost? At the very least, wouldn't he have some kind of connection with the other ghosts? Maybe if not outright seeing them, then sensing their presence or something? But he's never given any indication they're there, we've seen that. If he was dying, he'd have a connection to the entire metaphysical plane, not just Maddie.

Why does he only start seeing her at that exact moment in season 1? If he was dying, wouldn't it have been sooner? Maddie was "dead" for three days before Simon saw her. And it was only at this specific time that he was able to do so.

What this tells me is that this isn't possible because of anything from Simon's end. Or, not completely from his end.

To answer this question, we need to look at the only other instance of a living person and ghost interacting. What enabled Maddie to see Janet and Mr. Martin arguing? What allowed Janet to steal Maddie's body in the first place?

I think it's a combination of things. Mr. Martin says to Janet, "What did you feel? You have to tell me." This implies that she did something that was completely unexpected by him. We don't know what it was exactly, but we can assume that it has to do with blurring the lines between life and death even if it was just a little. But I don't think it was just this that allowed Maddie to see her and Mr. Martin.

When Maddie describes her altercation with her mother to Simon, she says very deliberately, "She killed my spirit." Maddie wasn't just feeling upset in that boiler, she was broken. A lifetime of being battered down by her mother's alcoholism and negligence and this was the final straw. She wasn't physically dead at that point, but emotionally she might as well have been.

I think that these two things happening at the same time created a sort of passageway between Maddie and the metaphysical plane. The hollowness Maddie was feeling coincided with whatever Janet had done to blur those lines, and that's how Janet was able to push her soul out.

Now, if I'm right about all of that, what does that have to do with Simon?

Well, remember what Simon said to Ms. Fields, "I don't know how I'm going to survive this place without her." It's important to remember that Simon had a feeling she was dead, or at the very least seriously hurt/in trouble. He accepted the possibility of her being gone as fact, which is why he never questions her being a ghost. It isn't such a stretch to assume that he was feeling the same hollowness that Maddie was concerning her mother.

(This also answers why he was the only one. Sandra and Nicole still believed Maddie was alive, they weren't broken in the way that Simon was. And when Sandra did receive the news that there was a good chance Maddie was dead, she was at home, not the school. So her and Maddie wouldn't have been able to connect the way her and Simon did. Also, Maddie's relationship with her mother is very complicated. They don't have anything close to the bond that her and Simon do)

But like I said above, the connection has to be on both sides. Not only did Maddie watch him have this breakdown and was probably feeling similarly to him in that moment, she also had a tether to the living world; her body. So, the combination of their emotional bond, Simon's emptiness when faced with a world without her, and Maddie still technically being alive allowed them to connect past the limitations of death

[mostly-functional]

I have some questions about School Spirits

1. If Wally tries to jump the fence, does his outfit reset?

2. If ghosts can’t bleed, how can they swell?

3. Why can’t Rhonda Charley and Wally escape through the murder tunnel in the fallout shelter?

4. Who are those weird extras in the support group?

5. Why did nobody find it even a little suspicious that Maddie showed up at the exact same time that Janet “crossed over”?

[lavishtine]

Do y'all ever think about the fact that Janet would've only been 16 at most when Mr. Martin killed her? The other ghosts ages are ambiguous but it's inferred that at least Rhonda and Wally are 18, Charlie's is a lot harder to determine, and we know Maddie's 18.

But Janet was sixteen, she was young and impressionable and easy to manipulate. She spent five years alone with Mr. Martin before Rhonda's death, of course when she was asked about when and how she died, she'd lie, because she's being manipulated by Mr. Martin. The only time we hear her he's still abusing her and pushing her limits because that's all he ever cared about.

She was 16, stuck with her abuser for 60 years, of course she chased the first sign of freedom she could get. All of them deserve the freedom to leave, but Mr. Martin is the one trapping them.

[jimmycarterghostland]

I'm very interested in seeing Janet in season 2 of School Spirits. I'm pretty intrigued by this character. Here, I'm going to be discussing her character, who will be in season 2.

The teaser for season 2 is out, and I want to share some pictures of Janet I found online. Janet will be played by Jess Gabor.

Here's a behind the scenes photo of season 2. I'm sure that's Janet sitting at the window. Possibly a flashback scene:

Now look at this screenshot I took from the season 2 teaser:

It's extremely brief, but that is seemingly Janet jumping into Maddie's body. Janet has the same white shirt sleeve peaking out the sleeve of her top, which is either orange or yellow(or maybe the white shirt is part of the orange or yellow one? Hard to tell if they're two separate shirts or just one with two different colors). Same shirt she is wearing in the behind the scenes photo where she's sitting at the window. In season 1, they didn't have an established actress for Janet for some reason, so you couldn't see her face. Just her silhouette. It seems like season 2 will show the scene from Janet's point of view.

Behind the scenes picture of Peyton List in season 2:

I'm sure that's Janet who Peyton is playing in that scene. I think the picket fence belongs to an abandoned house Janet will be staying at in season 2. In season 1, she was headed for Detroit, and that city has lots of abandoned houses.

More screenshots from the teaser:

While possessing Maddie's body, Janet wears a coat. The first of the three screenshots directly above this paragraph shows Janet looking scared/sad around a fire, which makes sense, considering Janet was killed in a fire. Of course she would be terrified of flames. That indicates the girl in the picture is Janet, not Maddie. Plus, Janet wears that coat. Maddie doesn't.

Second screenshot. A house is on fire. I think it's an abandoned house Janet is staying at while in Detroit. Possibly the same house with the white picket fence.

Third screenshot. It depicts a hand holding a knife, possibly stabbing into a newspaper. I think Janet is holding the knife. There's a lantern nearby with a flame in it. I'm actually confused by this shot. If that's Janet, why is she wearing Ghost Janet's clothes? She's supposed to be possessing Maddie while living in an abandoned house. It's possible this is a flashback of Janet after her death and before she possessed Maddie. Or maybe before Janet died. I'm not sure. There is ash(?) on the newspaper, and the newspaper might be laying on a school desk. Maybe it's a newspaper mentioning Janet's death, and the shot itself is from a scene where Ghost Janet is examining it during a flashback, at some point in time before she possessed Maddie.

Also, I think Janet is supposed to be narrating the season 2 teaser, not Maddie. The voice sounds like it belongs to Jess Gabor. I briefly watched an interview of her before, and the voice sounds more like Jess than it does Peyton List.

I'm excited to see a lot more Mr. Martin and Janet in season 2. The ghost stuff is what I loved to see in season 1. I didn't care much about the living side of things. I can't wait to learn more about Mr. Martin and Janet, and find out more about their pasts and secrets.

[bisexualmultifandommess]

So, in the finale we find out that Maddie technically isn’t actually dead she was just pushed out of her body by Janet which means that eventually they could find a way to get her back to normal and set Janet back to being a ghost.

This means that Maddie will be back with her friends and will be alive but she’ll also not be able to stay with Wally or stay friends Rhonda and Charley 😭😭

I think for the first time ever I’m wishing that a character I love would stay dead lmao

[tragictempest]

"yeahh I ship maddie x janet actually"

my honest reaction

[theories-and-theorems]

The current theor(ies) rolling around the most in my head is for School Spirts

In the last episode we learn that Mr. Martian was aware that Janet took over Maddie’s body

We also learn that they both died in a fire that may have been started by a student or may have been started by Mr. Martian

So the show is, and has been for a while, (I knew he knew more than he let on like episode two or three when he said something super suspicious) leading us to believe that Mr. Martian is the, or at least, a bad guy

And while I’m not clamoring to claim his innocence, I do think it’s interesting that he told Janet not to move when she jumped into Maddie’s body

It’s entirely possible that Mr. Martian is the ultimate villain and Janet did what she did because she’s trying to escape him or because she feels cheated being stuck in limbo with her (maybe) murderer (Not fair to Maddie in any way but more sympathetic than my next thought)

It is also possible that the show is leading us to the conclusion that Janet started the fire, woke up angry in the afterlife that she got caught up in her own craziness, and has been trying to find a way out ever since, (maybe even causing some of the other’s deaths in her attempts?)

This would make her the big bad of the show, and Mr. Martian (while not completely innocent) a misguided man trying to prevent her (and unfortunately for Maddie, failing) from succeeding her goal to possess someone else and escape

What do y’all think? Am I overthinking or on to something? Do you think Janet is an opportunist, a runaway victim, or a killer Queen? 🤔

[wallyclarksnewmom]

I was so caught up in finding out what happened to Maddie that I never even thought about what Mr. Martin and Janet are talking about until just now - Maddie finds the door to the fallout shelter because Janet was screaming for help. She was saying "help, I don't want to," and as Maddie opens the door we hear Mr. Martin say "we have to find out exactly what happened, what did you feel? You have to tell me-"

The article Wally and Charley find says that Mr. Martin started the fire, and revealed that they had been told the wrong year for her death (Wally and Charley both believed Janet died in 1960, not '58). But for whatever reason both Janet and Mr. Martin lied about this, and I wonder if Janet was going along with it under threat. Basically, they had to have been the first ghosts, because otherwise they wouldn't have been able to lie about when Janet died. Rhonda didn't die until at least 1963 (the year "He's So Fine" by the Chiffons came out), so Janet and Mr. Martin were alone together for 5+ years.

Anyways I don't really have a solid point here beyond just the fact that I think we might have missed how much of a victim Janet is in all this. I might even posit that her possession of Maddie was unintentional - she was just trying to get away from Mr. Martin and whatever he was yelling at her about, and the door opening gave her a shot.

I also wonder about their relationship prior to their deaths, if Mr. Martin starting the fire was purposeful, if Janet was targeted, etc. Since they were the first ghosts I imagine Mr. Martin may have done something then which triggered the weird ghost curse the school has going on. Maybe the rest of the ghosts had to do with Janet not wanting to be trapped alone with Mr. Martin, seeking some form of help. OH and what happened to Janet that Mr. Martin wanted to know but which Janet was so desperate not to share? We know he was recording findings on all the kids, was he outright experimenting on Janet because she knew about him already? I need to go to bed I'm sorry this is like 10 theories in one lol

[drxnkflattery]

if simon thinks he’s been hallucinating maddie then he’s not gonna tell xavier, nicole, and claire that the person they saw isn’t really her. which means xavier’s gonna wake up in the hospital, be informed of who hit him with his own truck, and go “so she knows i cheated. got it.”

[blades-fan]

Did anyone else find it odd that Janet was a 'dark shadow' when she ran into Maddie? Mr. Martin looked like a normal human, but Janet didn't. Janet was also screaming for help to escape the bunker while Mr. Martin was asking her how she 'felt.' I know some people think he was asking her to relieve her death, but I think he was experimenting on her on. I think he transformed her into some sort of shadow. His journals did mention 'thinning' and finding an 'access point.'

[lxvepup]

s. school spirits. school spirits !!!!

[slimeyslimeyballsack]

i think that people are caught up on the idea of Mr. Martin forcing Janet to stay quiet that they're ignoring the possibility that Mr. Martin was covering for Janet and that she's not as innocent in this as we think.

[rosebug3]

How many people died at this high school? Maybe its cause I'm from a small school, we had a lot of people die after school or outside if school but not on campus. Though it is old so who knows what we don't. I know people who had a lot of people die on the way to school. Events sadly happen that end with a lot of people dying at once.

But how many individual students die during the 20th century at this school?

I know there are events that have happened, but this seems excessive.

[brechtian]

Janet Hamilton, 1870, Poems, Essays, and Sketches

[bisexualmultifandommess]

Janet running at Maddie actually scared me so much I wasn’t expecting it 💀