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we're really post round 7 and people are still out here saying till thinks ivan is violent like get a fucking grip already please 😭
#he doesn't think that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ivan is not violent towards him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#like are we watching the same series?? are you awake??? hello can anyone hear me?????????????#“ofc till hallucinated ivan instead of mizi bc luka was violent and aggressive with him like ivan” SHUT UP#across ALL alnst media ever posted for human eyes to consume we have a whole TWO#count em TWO ( 2 ) instances of ivan being violent towards till#one was in a fight that TILL started when they were kids#and the other is r6 which is debatable on whether or not you view it as violence depending on if you think ivan put pressure into that chok#like it's first grade stuff spongebob this isn't even subtext it's just straight text of the narrative#ivan's not violent but i'm about to be
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I'm really enjoying these new glimpses of Till where he seems rather calm? Naturally he still has big feelings and expresses them accordingly, but compared to past instances it's a lot less explosive.
Most of Ivan and Till's fights seem to happen when they're younger. This is most likely because they weren't familiar with each other yet and were still at the age where most things were taken at face value. They're still getting used to each other's "strangeness", and that could be the cause for certain misunderstandings.
By the time Ivan started developing his "attractive" persona, he was much more aware of what made Till tick. Instead of toning down on his behavior, he used it to his advantage.
Throughout childhood, all Ivan knew was that if he performed certain actions he would get a response from Till (whether he intended it or not). Their shenanigans were incredibly childish, but they made a prominent impact on Ivan's perspective. His thoughts gradually transitioned from "I didn't know" to "oh. this is what I need to do so that Till will notice me."
Despite maturing a great amount and presenting a princely image to everyone else, Ivan never grew up when it came to Till. He continued to apply the same tactics from childhood just to keep Till's attention.
This is why the Anakt Diaries mention that though Ivan is mature for his age, he acts childishly when he's with Till. It's what he knows best.
As they grew older, they both became more fine-tuned to certain aspects regarding each other. Ivan understood what would get a rise out of Till and began messing with him on purpose, hoping to get a reaction. Unfortunately for him, Till started getting used to it (for the most part).
Despite his rebelliousness and bold expression, Till is timid when it comes to people. He only attacks when provoked, and unfortunately for someone as sensitive as him, that's quite often. Ivan took great joy in poking and prodding at him until they resorted to pulling hairs.
However, an older Till seems much less inclined to attack a pestering Ivan. In fact, he seems to brush it off suprisingly well. Of course he reacts, but he no longer reacts violently.
He goes back to a neutral (probably mildly annoyed, definitely weirded out) state almost immediately afterwards. The important part is that no hands are thrown. At this point, it's been years of Ivan and Till knowing each other. Till has watched Ivan grow from this gloomy little boy to the literal "Prince Charming" of Anakt, yet one thing has always remained the same: Ivan stayed by his side. Whether they like it or not, being close for so long will eventually endear someone to another. Thanks to the Ivan Exposure Therapy (and probably a bit of his own growing maturity), Till isn't so phased by Ivan's antics anymore. At the very least he seems to reply instead of taking full offense, poking fun at Ivan's lack of a birthday instead of just saying no. Older Till seems less irritated and more like he's just exasperated. Familiar, accustomed to Ivan's presence.
@geospiral already made a great post about what Ivan's side of this whole development might have been like. It's really interesting, so I recommend checking it out!
#no brian im not making shit up qmeng actually did call ivan prince charming go fuck yourself /affectionate#<- message for my friend sorry#alnst#alien stage#alien stage ivan#alien stage till#ivantill#alnst ivan#alnst till#para.musing#this might all be bullshit btw#as usual. this is just me. my goggles
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Okay, so, there's one thing that I'm kind of tired of beating around the bush with white fans about, and it's this: if you pretend to "ignore" race in OFMD, you will miss a lot of what the story is trying to tell you.
Now, I do not truly believe that race is something you can ignore in a story. I just don't think it's possible, and when you try, what you wind up with is something like the conservative worldview of "not seeing color." Trying to ignore race will make you sound racist and ignore important racialized themes.
You can't understand Stede's need for character growth at the beginning of the show if you just focus on how he's "cringe" instead. When Stede makes his crew members of color serve them at dinner when the English board, this is gross, and their faces tell us exactly how they feel about it. Stede unlearning his biases here isn't subtle (guy who called him and Pete "fucking racists" I love you forever), and learning to take all of his crew members seriously as fully actualized people, moving away from the sort of Kindergarten-teacher behavior at the start to truly valuing them as people and taking their input and suggestions, it's an important aspect. Stede asking Abshir for intel at the party isn't just funny, it's also proof he's learned to see value in people in positions like Abshir's.
You can't understand the motivations behind Ed's actions, especially the violent ones, if you ignore the racist overtones. Ed is not a randomly violent person - he gets angry at a captain for calling him a "rich donkey," and if you think it's unreasonable for a brown man to want to get revenge on a white man for calling him that? Then fuck I'm glad you can't see the conversations I have with my other black friends, man. Ed's anger and frustration at the party aren't just because he fucked up with some spoons, lol, you can't get it unless you realize he's the only brown guest in that room. Yeah, he's ignoring Stede's advice, but he's immediately under a pressure Stede never has been. Ed's wanted posters in s2, too, rely on heavily caricaturizing Jewish features to make him look grotesque and monstruous. We're supposed to be horrified by that aspect.
And, yeah, when we ignore the racist tones to Izzy's behavior, I think that's undermining an important aspect of who he is as an antagonistic character. Him buying Ed from the English should feel like a gross violation, because it is. When he sits in front of the crew eating and making Fang and Ivan serve him, I think it's a pretty obvious parallel to how the crew members of color were similarly insulted in the pilot. It's impossible to ignore race in the way he dehumanizes Ed and tries to force him back into a caricature of behavior he hates and is horrified by - when he calls Ed a "wild dog" in s2, if that doesn't cause a visceral reaction of disgust in you, I dunno what to tell you. This doesn't mean that Izzy is irredeemable - just as Stede wasn't - but it does mean that racist biases are things Izzy had to unlearn.
OFMD so often takes so much care with how its characters of color are depicted. We get thoughtful, relatable moments (those French boat people getting humiliated and setting their boat on fire after they'd tried to touch Ed's beard is so satisfying, guys) and excellent, supportive friendships between men of color. The characters of color on OFMD are clean, smart, respected, and it's wonderful. And just because these things aren't always relatable to you specifically doesn't mean they're not important parts of the story.
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For me, the most heartbreaking aspect of Ivan is that the poor clueless bastard didn't have the tools to express his affection in any way that didn't involve violence or manipulation, or weren't too inscrutable, quiet, or unseen to be picked up by Till.
I definitely interpret Ivan as autistic for several reasons, a big one being their Segyein teacher's notes about him:
It's just. Classic ND behaviour to me.
Not only does expressing emotion and communicating the way other kids do not come naturally to Ivan, but it's not as if he's been given a great example of coping with this from the Segyein.
Ivan managed to mask in a way that made him popular with other students, and got him in the good graces of their captors. He did everything expected of him to survive and thrive in this environment.
Then he meets Till, inscrutable and very different to the other kids, just like Ivan is. Except, Till doesn't mask. He doesn't change or try to endear himself to their captors, and he doesn't bend to anyone, no matter how much he is hurt and punished for it.
This is a new situation for Ivan, and he's never had anything to compare his feelings to. He also can't figure out how to communicate with Till, every interaction, no matter how well meaning, seems to end in failure.
I bring your attention to the cheer up comic, and how, again, autistic this interaction feels:
There could be many reasons why Ivan chose to say what he did, but to me it feels like ND bluntness not being received well. And that's fair! From Till's perspective Ivan is being a jerk for no good reason.
Instead of responding with glee towards Till laying him out (as we see from Ivan when they're a bit older), Ivan justs seems... really confused. Like he didn't expect that statement to upset Till that much, and he didn't expect Till to respond in the way he did. Everything was fine a second ago, what went wrong?
Then, Ivan uses the phrase he learned from Till in an attempt to self sooth. It might have been the first example of comfort after an injury/hurt he had ever seen, given how he defaults to it. And it was from Till trying to cheer up a flower.
This also shows some of Till's blindspots. He has grown up having to be vigilant, because violence and hurt have been a core part of his upbringing. This leads to anything he doesn't immediately, clearly understand being perceived as a threat or a slight, and so he reacts violently to Ivan's statement.
I'll also draw your attention to this comic where, as far as we know, Ivan is simply stating a true fact in a blunt manner:
In my interpretation, these types of interactions keep adding up, and Ivan is grasping at straws the whole time, trying to be closer to Till and failing every time.
Eventually, the only surefire way to get Till's attention is to piss him off, provoke him, manufacture scenarios to talk to him. I'm not excusing this behaviour, but I understand where Ivan could be coming from, from the perspective of both an emotionally immature/stunted child and/or an ND child.
Despite how much they fight and bicker, at every moment it really mattered, Ivan was there for Till. It was always Ivan coming to free him, to take off his collar or gag, and it was Ivan who led their escape.
Ivan couldn't leave Till behind when he went back for Mizi. Even with the confirmation that Till would choose Mizi over Ivan every time, Ivan couldn't leave him.
The miscommunication goes two ways though. It's insane to think that Till didn't care about Ivan at all. They were close as kids, and I doubt Till ever forgot about the escape he gave up.
We have the graduation messages, where Ivan is able to write something that could be reasonably interpreted as affectionate or fond towards Till.
Meanwhile, Till's message-
If we're being charitable with our interpretations, we can say this was Till's way of saying 'of course I remember you' and attempting to communicate that Ivan HAD left a lasting impact on him.
However, how could any reasonable person be expected to get THAT out of 'you stole my fucking pencil'? Ivan could have taken this one of two ways:
1) Omg he remembers me 🥰
2) he leans into his 'i will never be loved back' bias and thinks that Till really doesn't care about him at all
Who the hell knows what goes through that weird little brain of his. But given how Round 6 went, and what Ivan had to say in the confession comic, he obviously didn't think his impact was significant enough.
Then Alien Stage happens, and in Round 3 Ivan is FINALLY communicating his feelings in a way that is vulnerable and might even have a chance of being understood as love and yearning!
Till is unconscious through it until the very end.
Then in the next round, Mizi goes missing, and Till can't care about anything anymore.
Ivan finds him after the private performance, takes off his gag, and just holds him. Again, Till is unconscious for all of this.
Then, in Round 6, not only is Till distraught from the disappearance of Mizi, but he's given no time to process what the fuck is going on before Ivan is dead at his feet. Till might have finally had a chance to really understand where Ivan was coming from, how he really felt all this time, and Ivan DIES.
And still, Ivan's most transparent act of affection? It's delivered with violence. He's kissing a distraught Till who tries to push him away, and neither of them are happy. He puts his hands around Till's neck, not really hurting him, but it's enough to look convincing for the cameras, and it's enough for Till to go limp and wait for death. Ivan's final loving act is to give Till a soft look with blood pouring out of his mouth, that Till still does not see, and then let go before falling to the ground.
It's just a collection of failures. We see from Ivan that he truly loved Till, made a lot of selfless decisions for his sake, was filled with so much longing and affection, but he just couldn't get it across in a way that doesn't seem fucking deranged from an outsider's perspective. And when he DID manage to communicate his feelings more clearly, it was to a Till that was unconscious, or too distracted/dense/traumatised to see Ivan's actions as ones of love.
There's no guarantee that Till would have reciprocated even if Ivan had managed to communicate his feelings in a healthier way, but there was at least a CHANCE. At least Ivan could have gotten some closure, even if he was rejected.
Instead Ivan died thinking he was completely unloved by the person who he cared about more than anything else, and his last ditch effort to make Till understand was deeply flawed and uncomfortable.
If these kids had grown up any other way, maybe they could have had a chance. Unfortunately, the world they were in didn't equip them to not hurt eachother in their attempts to grow closer.
#alien stage#alien stage ivan#alien stage till#alnst#alnst ivan#alnst till#ivantill#tillivan#alien stage round 6#if you saw me edit this a bunch of times trying to link the masterdoc post no you didnt
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rock's thoughts on ivantill (nsfw edition)
trigger/content warning: open and uncensored discussion of nsfw content (smut specifically) I'm not tagging this as mature and leaving it up to the reader's discretion whether or not they're able to handle this. I'm not incredibly explicit but I am talking about something inherently nsfw.
the thing about nsfw is that, when it comes to fandom, it often is based less on the characters themselves and more on whatever the fans want to see. I say this about fandom in general, btw, not ALNST in particular- in my experience with nsfw (fanfic anyways) in fandom, is that a lot of it comes down to writer preference rather than the actual characters themselves. It's literally playing with dolls and this isn't necessarily a bad thing! It's pretty much what fan content is for, right? It's just something that doesn't sit super well with me and it's something I don't really understand- if you want to make a specific dynamic, why not just make ocs that can similar or the same personalities as the characters that you enjoy and yet their dynamic fits with what you want.
Like overall when it comes to my opinions (and these are opinions, preferences if you will), I might as well be up front- when it comes to the ships that are common in the ALNST fandom, I think that while mizisua and hyunamizi definitely switch, out of mizisua? Sua is the top imo. on the other hand, I think that it would be a lot more interesting if either hyunamizi were switch-centric or Mizi topped, just because of what that would say about her relationship growth as well as her character growth. With hyunaluka (which is not a ship that I enjoy but I respect those that do obviously) I think Hyuna tops mostly. With ivantill, I see Ivan as a bottom and Till as the top. Sometimes they switch, no one is exclusively one or the other- and I am fully in support of them being switches because I believe most relationships are fluid and have the inherent capacity for switching, top/bottom is about preference but I do think it's rare. I don't know, smut can be part of the relationship to me and the dynamic when it comes to sexual encounters is important to me with a couple.
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm one of those people where my headcanons have to be related to the text somehow (and I don't say this in a way that's derogatory to people who don't have that- honestly I kind of admire you guys, it seems freeing. I'm just extremely autistic about this) but idk the way people intrepret Ivan in the ALNST fandom is super interesting. This is mainly going to be talking about ivantill because to be perfectly honest, I think people are weirder about mlm ships than they are about wlw ships, when it comes to their characterization? But I haven't read as much wlw nsfw so I can't fully speak to this. But when it comes to Ivantill, I have found some people who's opinions I love. Some people I agree with even if I don't agree with everything. But then there are some folks that are so out there like I wanna study you guys underneath a microscope y'all are so peculiar. yeah yeah he's King Yaoi the Third, he's tall dark and handsome, whatever. he's a little freak, I want to put him in a jar and shake him up, I understand, but at the same time sometimes the reading comprehension with people seems not so bueno.
In the fandom overall, (not just on tumblr dot com) people like him as top and I think that, to a degree, that is supported by the text. At least, some of the additional art from Vivinos/Qmeng, that’s supported
(^ the amount of horny comments on this image *sighs*)
But for me? I don’t like that as much (even though I’ve read some fanfic with it that I liked just fine.)
This is because of the way that this interpretation of their relationship feeds into that surface level analysis of both Ivan and Till's character? Ivan is the violently jealous lover, the one who watches from afar and seethes with envy, he’s the unfeeling pretty boy who only loves one person, he’s willing to do whatever it takes to keep that person. Till is the tsundere, the person who plays at strength but weakens at the first touch of someone stronger, easily flustered and even easier to cow into submission- but the thing is? We know that's not true for either of them, it's not supported by their backgrounds, their other actions, the context of their trauma. which makes that characterization super funny (to me) when this series is kind of about peeling back the edges of outward perception, with Mizi, Ivan, Luka and Hyuna especially.
While top/bottom isn't necessarily a power dynamic, when in the context of certain relationships, it can definitely take on the connotations of power. In Ivan and Till's relationship, the person who has the power is Till.
Out of the two of them, Ivan is not the person with the power and that's honestly the main issue that I have with the way that people portray him. In the top Ivan fics that I actually like, he's not the one with the power, he is only where he is because Till wanted them to get this far, he is at Till's mercy and he's loving it. The issue I take with those who portray him as domineering and controlling is that he doesn't try to control Till in canon. He might have concocted the incident with the wagyein and Mizi but after that? Ivan isn't trying to force Till into anything, he isn't controlling the situation, he isn't even trying to get Till to do anything but react. Ivan would do anything that Till wanted him to, no questions asked. For those who take the possessive angle with Ivan, the problem I have is that Ivan has no desire to own Till. He's obsessed with Till, yeah, but it's in the way that you love your favorite band- you love them to bits, you listen to all of their songs, you go to a concert, you have their merch- but you would still respect their choices, right? You would be disappointed if they decided to break up but you wouldn't force them to get back together. That's the difference between Ivan's obsession and Luka's- Luka thinks that he deserves Hyuna's affection in exchange for loving her (it's transactional), whereas Ivan is under no illusion that he is entitled to Till's affections.
On the flipside, when Till is portrayed as the tsundere who cares but refuses to show it because of his pride, well, that one's a little tougher because the main problem is execution. Till does really care about people but his affection isn't shown out of a matter of pride- he shows his affection for Mizi quite freely, after all, if he was really worried about vulnerability, I feel like he might be a little more conservative with his adoration. Often times, he doesn't show his care for people clearly because he doesn't really know how, defaulting to blushing and stuttering, gifts and acts of service to get his point across. He's not a super verbal-affection oriented guy and I think this is actually portrayed pretty well in the gen fics but not so much in smut because it's not as applicable lmao (comes with the territory ig). When Till is written as really timid, fumbling, innocent (@bluemoonscape called it woobifying), I hate that with a passion because he might fumble and he might get shy sometimes but he is not a pushover. He is not meek and if he doesn't like something, he'll voice his complaints, he'll let you know. I mean why else would he yell at Ivan in their version of My Clematis when Ivan gets too close? Admittedly, Ivan doesn't listen, lost in his monologue, and Till kind of just accepts it- but I am certain that if they were even intimate with each other, that Till would object were he uncomfortable and Ivan would listen. Like, whether Ivan was top or bottom, if Till's not having a good time? Ivan is no longer having a good time. Ivan's pleasure is very much contingent on Till's pleasure, at least, in my mind.
That's all the characterization centered stuff and kind of the reason why I think their relationship just works better with this dynamic *but* one of the biggest reasons it's a preference for me that Ivan bottoms is because of the inherent nature of that dynamic- it's a lot harder to end up fucking someone unwillingly than it is to get fucked by someone. There's a far greater likelihood of reciprocated feelings or at least, consent, when it comes to this version of their relationship and that's what I prefer because I really do think that they love each other.
(tagging @atrophiedemotion because I asked him if he wanted to be and he said yes! Blue is already tagged above too so all of the known interested parties have been notified :D love you guys)
#alien stage#alnst#alnst analysis#ivantill#hyunamizi#mizisua#alnst ivan#alnst till#rocktalks#finally finished this Blue!! hope it lives up to expectations lmao
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Clothes Followup
Hi there. Professional sportswear outfitter and part-time athelete here just chiming in on how these choices are perfectly believable, in my humble opinion: #1 SHOES "sneakers" is a loose definition. but, if the character is wearing casual/lifestyle "sneakers" like jordan lows, vans, etc., these type of shoes are FLAT (not narrow running shoes). Flat soled sneakers are often preferred training shoes for mixed arts or lifting at the gym. You could wear boots, but you're sacrificing agility. As a female, I can say that a female character likely would not inflict such a handicap as BOOTS on herself. Feet are very resilient and resistant to pain and injury. Being able to move on your feet matters a lot more than protecting them does. PASS #2 PANTS. you are not punching someone's pants while boxing. and have you watched fight club? they mostly wear jeans. they're durable, wick moisture (although it feels unpleasant), and if they're fitted properly, they're not going to get in the way of your agility. Jeans are light armor if you're speaking in tabletop rpg terms. PASS #3 SHIRT. a good tshirt of a decent quality will wick moisture, will not be bulky or baggy, and will move with its wearer. tshirts are not expensive and are the best option outside a sleeveless top or topless for martial arts. Especially if you have boobs. Boxing in only a racerback sports bra is also viable, but a tshirt will provide light protection to the skin, which is a good idea in amateur boxing. If they're WEARING GLOVES, nobody is grappling anyone's shirt so there is no risk of clothes-grabbing violations happening there. If this ring is literally underground, it's probably cold. Clothes can be shed between matches, but it's often more important to be clothed appropriately so as to prevent both overheating and chills. Becoming chilled between fights is a greater danger to performance than getting sweaty is. PASS I also have questions as to the type of boxing gloves being used. Are they full padded gloves? Light knuckle pads? Do the boxers wear headgear? Mouthguards? What areas are allowed to be hit or is it a free-for-all? Maybe you think these details are mistakes, but I disagree. Half my job is punching boxes all day. Hot, sweaty, fully clothed, wearing comfortable shoes. Lots of moving around. If I am going to punch boxes (or faces) for hours, that's exactly how I'd dress. The rest of my job? Literally outfitting people with boxing equipment. Literally selling people clothing for athletics. I am also a footwear specialist. Thank you for taking the time to read this. :) -lilkittay
So, apologies in advance, lilkittay, but you're about to get dragged. This might come as a shock, but I actually have a copy of the novel Fight Club. I just found it wedged between a copy of Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson, and the Demolished Man by Alfred Bester. I'm not going to try to figure out what lead to that sorting peculiarity. The book is exceptionally good, and if you've never read it, it's an easy (if somewhat unpalatable) recommendation. Stick it up there with books like Native Son, or Ivan Denisovich, in that it covers some really ugly subject matter, but discusses a problem exceptionally well. And, in the 27 years since the novel was originally published, it has proved itself fairly prescient. It's not about the violence, it is an excellent discussion on the underlying psychology of toxic masculinity.
Now, the last time I mentioned Fight Club, someone immediately piped up with, “you've lost all credibility.” That's their problem, but I didn't actually define it, and it is a term that gets thrown around without being defined. Toxic masculinity refers specifically to an individual who cannot engage with their own emotions, particularly painful ones, in a healthy way, because they view those behaviors as effeminate. As a result, they respond aggressively and, or, violently. That's the toxic part. You get dumped. Your pet dies. You get passed over for a promotion at work. And, instead of dealing with that in a healthy way. In any healthy way. You go out into the world and try to make someone else suffer. That is toxic.
Unfortunately, Fight Club is not the grown up version of Calvin and Hobbes, though that is an amusing fan theory, and something that holds together better in the film thanks to Brad Pitt's costuming decisions.
I'm saying all of this to point out, the characters in Fight Club have no idea how to fight.
More than that, jeans are not light armor. Motorcycle leathers? Sure, those would be light armor. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're described as light armor in D20 modern. But, the only place I'd expect to see denim categorized as light armor is a game that used, “light armor,” for mage gear, “medium armor,” as rogue's leather and chain, and, “heavy armor,” as warrior gear. Which is to say, yeah, that's not how that works at all.
The problem with jeans as armor is, they're really bad at it. Someone with a crowbar? Yeah, jeans aren't going to do anything about that. Someone with an axe? I've heard about the aftermath, it was not pretty. Against a sword? Nope. Against a knife? Personal experience says the knife will win without issue. In an underground fighting arena against someone driving a shin kick into your knee? Yeah, your jeans may look fine after the fact, but you're probably not using that leg again anytime soon.
But, that RPG comment made something click together a little, so back to footwear for a second.
Why would someone wear boots? Now, personally, I wear motorcycle boots in my day to day life. Not because I'm a rider, but because I find them more comfortable and convenient than normal dress shoes, and so long as I keep them buffed out, they pass for men's dress shoes at a glance. The interesting thing about this is that my heel has a wide, flat, block of wood under it at all times. If it was a matter of life and death, I could probably grind off a significant chunk of my heel bringing a bike to a stop without suffering any injury. Now, I bring this up, because driving 200-300lbs of force behind a sharply edged wooden mallet into your unarmored instep will not improve your agility.
In the real world, armor doesn't work like D&D. There's no equivalent exchange between mobility and being able to soak a hit. (And if you think there's an irony in substituting a term from one RPG for another... well, yeah. You're not wrong.) If you think someone's going to stomp on your foot, bring steel toed boots. What you lose in agility today, you make up for in your ability to walk without a cane tomorrow.
The paradox of humans is that we are both stupidly resilient, and horrifically fragile, at the same time. Now, at this point, I do want to say something genuinely nice to you, even if it sounds a tiny bit condescending. You've never looked at another person as 150-250lbs of ambulatory meat and considered the best way to take them apart with your hands. And you know what? That is a good thing. Embrace that, and don't let go, because never finding yourself in that kind of a place is a credit to you, and the world you've been able to live in.
All of that said, fighting another human being is not a workout. It's engineering. You're looking at an organic machine with roughly the same parts and pieces you have, and your goal is to make that machine stop thrashing around, screaming, and leaking on everything, before it does the same to you. It's not better. It's not worse. It's different, and it comes with different considerations. You don't dress to look good or stay comfortable, you dress to avoid life altering injuries if at all possible.
Competitive fighting does land at a meeting point of these two considerations however. The fighter wants to come out intact, the sponsors want good show, one that will draw an audience. This leads to things like fighting in a sports bra. Yes, it may be the most, “agile,” option, but if you're going to be in a fist fight, a heavy leather jacket, preferably one with fiberglass plates may not breathe, but it will take far more abuse than your body can. (Actually, I think sometimes the inserts are made out of memory foam these days, which should also take a hit pretty effectively, especially against an unarmed foe.)
This isn't a major issue, but it is something to consider, when thinking about the temperature of the arena, it's important to remember that human body heat in a crowded space is somewhat cumulative. So, a room that starts out at around 60 degrees, could easily warm up to a comfortable temperature once the spectators are present. There's actually consistent math for calculating what you should set the thermostat for in an amphitheater when it's unoccupied so that the temperature is comfortable when the seats are filled, but I can't remember the numbers, and can't find it on short notice.
You do bring up a good point, the original Anon did not specify what kind of gloves were used. I assumed those were nominally regulation boxing gloves, but those could be something like the UFC gloves from a couple decades back, that left the fingers exposed while armoring the knuckles. The armor on those gloves allowed the wearer to inflict all kinds of horrific injuries on one's foes. In an event Michi is quite happy to recount, her younger brother almost lost an eye to a skull fracture from one of those during a poorly supervised sparring bout. It's fairly credible to suggest that an illegal fight club might use those simply to excite the crowds with actual bloodshed.
Now, as someone who has worked in shipping, I know full well that sometimes boxes do hit back. However, they are the exception rather than the rule. There's nothing wrong with practicing on punching bags, but boxes aren't trying to break you. At worst, they may just want to take a nap on the floor without regard to whether you're in the way or not. Live opponents? They're looking at you as however many pounds of meat machinery, and trying to end you. Looking good doesn't make their job harder, but armoring up does.
Anyway, like I said to the original Anon, nothing in their explanation was outright wrong. A lot of it was non-optimal, but not to such a degree as to shatter belief. The mistake you're making, and I really do say this with respect, is that you're looking at it like any other physical activity. As I said, combat is not a work out. Combat as a hazardous environment beyond the reach of OSHA. You wear protective gear (if you can) because that protection may be the difference between walking out alive and (basically) unharmed, or never walking again. You wouldn't (or at least, really shouldn't) take a bike out on the freeway at 60mph in jeans and a tees, you really don't want to get in a fight wearing them either.
-Starke
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Enter Our Three Ring Show of Freaks✲*٭˙∘
BSD Men headcanons
WARNINGS!!!; DEAD DOVE DO NOT EAT! Cannibalism, pyromaniac, w33d addiction, stalking, addiction, sensitive topics, mental illness, anorexia, obsessive etc.
Description; uncanon but reasonable headcanons w BSD chracters
A/N; Just a quick drabble. This is NOT. me making fun/joking about mental illnesses/addictions this is me putting uncanon headcanons on BSD chracters, if you're disturbed by this, block me or scroll!
Pyromaniac!Chuuya Nakahara - Chuuya isn't the one to let most of the intrusive thoughts of setting things on fire but sometimes they get the better of him but it doesn't cause mass destruction. (The habbit is worse during corruption and the habbit most likely started from said corruption.)
W33dAddiction!Edgar Allan Poe - He smokes constantly while writing his mystery novels. It started the time when Ranpo escaped the book he was working on for years straight, the smokes to relieve and built up stress.
Stalker!Akutugawa Ryūnosuke - he isn't one of those creepy stalkers that breaks into your house just to steal clothing or taking things you threw away, he's more tame. Taking secret photos of you when he sees you etc. (Specifically taking them with piliroid cameras)
Cannibal!Nikolai Gogol - He definitely eats human remains in front of you but he never dares to cross your boundaries of what you're not comfortable. He sometimes asks what would happen if he tried to eat you but it was always just for laughs. The only thing that would come close to "eating" would be the soft bites and nibbles he'd put on your body.
Priest!Fyodor Dostoevsky - Priest never go against their Gods words even if it was desire. No matter how many times you would confess your undeniable love for him and all the sick twisted fantasies you had of him in the confession booth, he couldn't recuperate the feelings since he was the priest of the church but he knew he couldn't deny any feeling he did have for you.
Obsessive!Dazai Osamu - Hes WAY manipulative when it comes to things like you venting your feelings. If you were ever upset with someone he'd manipulate you into thinking you only ever needed him and nobody else that was how his charm worked. Hold you close and never let go, cherishing you every second of the day to make you only want him.
ManicDepression!Sigma - He could be stressed out and yelling to a soft and cuddly guy but it depends on how severe things get. Things get hectic in the sky casino, Sigma's drastic mood swings not helping as he can go to yelling at someone before apologizing for his actions on how he will never do it again.
Psychopathic!Jono Saigiku - Jono isn't one of those violent or aggressive pshycopaths but he can tend to be very manipulative. When it comes to being empathetic, he doesn't understand too much about one's feelings but he is good at brushing them off even if said person is begging for help(advice/support).
Schizophrenic!Ace - He's quite literally delusional (going back to the scene were fyodor manipulated him into offing himself) His thoughts can get jumbled and disorganized when most likely proved wrong. His mental state would most likely deteriorating and breaking into fragments (a sense of mental fragmentation)
Anorexia nervosa/ED!Lovecraft - I'm not saying out of all EDS he had anorexia but it's possible. He's more self-conscious of the way his body looks and he probably just sleeps to much and forgets to eat.
Insomniac!Katai - He definitely stays up all night snuggled in that comforter of his constantly browsing the internet. But not only just staying up, he definitely has multiple sleep paralysis demons that haunt him when he tries sleeping.
Narcissistic!Ivan - He absolutely NEEDS. to be seen and admired (specifically from fyodor) He's self-centered and obsessed over self-importance. He doesn't seem to care for anyone but himself (and fyodor cause that's canon.)
OCD!Kunikida - He's absolutely obsessed with his ideals and being organized. If something in his schedule goes a miss or someone cancels on him he has to fix EVERYTHING. In his head he has to have the perfect schedule or the entire day will be fucking over and he wont know what to do in the next following hours.
#bungo stray dogs#bungou stray dogs#bsd#bungō stray dogs#bsd headcannons#bsd headcanons#bsd chuuya#bsd edgar allan poe#bsd akutagawa#bsd nikolai#bsd fyodor#bsd dazai#bsd sigma#bsd jouno#bsd ace#bsd lovecraft#bsd katai#bsd ivan#bsd kunikida#mental illness#dead dove do not eat#osamu dazai#fyodor dostoevsky#gogol nikolai#chuuya nakahara#headcanons
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I'm in my feels again so lets talk about Izzy Hands and violence.
I read a novel ages ago, where an older guy takes a young orphan boy under his wing and teaches him a trade - it's medieval times and said boy becomes a young adult and wants a sword, but his pseudo-father/boss/friend tells him he can't have one, because if he has one, he'll draw it and if he draws it, he could be killed. The safest thing is, paradoxically, to carry no weapons. To learn control of one's temper and control over your surroundings.
The scenes of Izzy and Stede in ep.7 at Jackie's reminded me of that novel.
Obviously Izzy has weapons, tends to put his hand on his sword during arguments and we do see him fighting and killing people. HOWEVER, I think it's really interesting that, given how often we talk about Izzy being repressed (emotionally/sexually/gender-ly) and how controlled he attempts to be, we don't often talk about his controlled approach to violence.
A lot of fic characterises him as someone who is hot tempered and violent, but looking at s1 with fresh eyes, between him and Ed, he's definitely not just the cooler head when it comes to instigating violence, but the one who takes less interest in violence for its own sake as a performance - e.g. Ed's very creative instructions with the tiny fork, the toe thing etc vs Izzy just stabbing Stede. It's a means to an end.
Don't think I'm not saying he has a fucking temper and a half, because he obviously does, but that seems to mostly be vented non-violently through yelling - not yelling at strangers either, but at people he knows and can (usually) judge where the line is.
Until he puts a toe over that line and...oops.
On first meeting Stede, Izzy cuts up his shirt without actually hurting him. It's a threat, but he hasn't drawn blood, hasn't started anything violent...yet. It's almost a display intended to dissuade actual fighting, by showing your potential opponent that they're probably going to lose.
I think one of the reasons Izzy's so annoyed about their losses in the battle with the Spanish is that it's not their fight. They didn't get anything from it - it was pointless (to him, not to Ed obvs). He wants to avoid facing the Spanish again in the following episode, because they stand to lose more than they will gain.
Even when he's actively calling for Ed to kill Stede, he isn't fussy about how. (And he uses manipulation to keep his hands clean - something he does again when selling Ed out to the navy.) Stede needs to be gone, and this is the easiest way to do that. And when he does finally lose it he doesn't just attack Stede without warning - it's within the controlled setting of a duel, which, when Stede starts improvising, breaks down Izzy's control and leads to him becoming emotional, making a mistake and getting his sword broken.
In s2 the pointlessness of the raids is obviously getting to him, disrupting a wedding for no real gain. Losing Ivan for nothing. I don't think the violence is what bothers him, he's a very active participant, but the fact that it's not for anything - it's not enough of a reward in and of itself. (It's like not really caring one way or the other about being a barista, it's just what you do and it's fine, but then suddenly you're not being paid and also your boss keeps burning you with the steam wand on purpose and you just sort of wish you could just get on with your job and make rent like before.)
S1 Izzy seems to lack the whimsy and imagination that Ed/Stede bring to piracy and to violence, but that doesn't make him stupid. They're playing some kind of made-up game that only they know the rules for, and he's trying to play chess with everyone, even when the rules are only a burden to him.
When we see him training, he's being a dramatic candlelit bitch, but he's also measuring his movements, focusing intently and not just hacking away at everything. Even the candles are interesting to me in this context - we see him playing with candles several times in S1/2 and while yes, there is a certain amount of 'Izzy likes pain' in there to unpick, it's also kind of a metaphor for control - fire is one of the most dangerous things to have on a 'wooden vessel' but a candle is like a tiny pet fire that you control - so long as you're careful and respectful. It's all about risk management, respecting dangerous forces and being aware.
When Stede kills Ned, Izzy looks impressed, even seems to smile for a second, but then he looks more subdued and tells Ed that the first kill is a head-fuck. It's like he's proud of Stede being ABLE to kill, but regretful that Stede CHOSE to kill in a situation where it wasn't necessary at all.
I don't think for a moment that Izzy regrets killing most of the people he kills as part of pirate life, but I think he would regret killing someone he didn't have to. Most people wouldn't want to carry that around with them.
We see in ep7. that Izzy is well respected at Jackie's. He tells bigger guys than him to fuck off and just takes people's chairs. He gets called 'Mr. Hands' instead of by his first name. There's a lot of respect there and I think some of it comes from his reputation with Ed, but also, from people knowing that he's not insane - he can be treated respectfully and everything will be fine for all involved. He's not some menace that's going to stab you as likely as pat you on the back.
For all that people are afraid of Blackbeard (and maybe slightly in awe of Stede as of the Ned thing) for their unpredictable natures and occasional violent outbursts, people are still attacking them or pandering to them, actual respect is something else entirely.
Later, Izzy doesn't pull a weapon and tries to discourage Stede from doing so, even tries to get him to leave to prevent a fight from starting. In the fight, he smashes a stool over someone and doesn't just start killing people - it's an appropriate level of violence for the situation, not an escalation.
It feels like Izzy is very much in that place of controlling himself, being aware and knowing when and how to use force practically, proportionally and effectively. This might be age related, but it's also a big part of his personality. I think that's also why he looks impressed by what Zheng does to Steak Knife (rip) because it's so precise, bloodless and quick. She's basically the best captain for him - she's efficient and controlled.
It's easy to confuse 'is willing to kill' with 'is eager to kill'. I don't think Izzy necessarily loathes that part of his job, he seems ambivalent, but it is still a job to him. It's what pirates do, much as the crew of the Revenge do still kill people, it's just part of their life and not some kind of performance or fun activity. It's work, and it's hard and it's unpleasant and if something can be done an easier way - a smarter way - then that's probably the best way.
#ofmd#ofmd spoilers#izzy hands#israel hands#ofmd meta#izzy hands is a character and a half#character discussion#long post
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Return to Ravenbrooks:
Biography
Entry 3
Name: Maritza Esposito
Date of Birth: 1997
Gender: F
Current Address: 910 Friendly Court
Height: 5'5
Hair color: Black
Eye color: Green
Key features: Shaved head, prosthetic leg, custom-made bat
Role: Defender
Abilities: Boxing, strength, speed
Occupation: [REDACTED]
Status: Fair
Biography:
If I had a nickel for every time a little argument or scuffle emerged between Nicky and anyone else in the newly formed "Ravenbrooks Investigation Club" I could get one of those nice professional metal bats. Maybe then I could practice my swinging instead of just sitting back and kicking my legs on the arm of Trinity's couch while they scuffed.
Usually, it was nothing. Stress boiled into anger and frustration. Usually, some yelling and gritted teeth and nothing more.
But today wasn't a nothing more day. Today things began to get heated again. Trinity brought up going into the old house again. The stress of investigating must've been getting to her like it's getting to all of us because she shoves him, hard. His head hit the wall hard enough that the thud made us wince. I jerked upwards out of my seat. If it'd been a few months ago I wouldn't have. Nicky had a hard time forming a proper fist, let alone throwing a punch. He was a flighter, not a fighter. But now? I don't know if that strength had the real temper behind it to do anything, but if somehow someway this did get violent?
I didn't have to take a full step before something distracted all of us.
Knocking.
The lot of us exchanged glances. Trinity's parents wouldn't have knocked on their own front door, and they, like most of the parents in Ravenbrooks were away at parent-teacher night.
I leaned toward the living room window, peeking out at the front step. I have to close the curtain and open them again, then again. Like somehow that'll make the familiar face change into someone else.
"...Who is it?" Trinity asks finally.
"A boy and-" I stop, having to think my words out carefully, "...The Carrion's kid..." I mumbled. The words are meaningless to her ears, but I can feel Enzo's eyes widen.
Ivan was the one who opened the door at last, and without a word, the two boys rushed in. They looked awful. An all too familiar level of awful. The taller boy, whose head was decorated with strawberry-blonde hair tangled with sticks and leaves, and what I slowly realize is blood. It's smeared across his face and around tear-stained eyes. His name is Damien, I think, but out of the two of them, it's the boy he's gripping tightly I'm focused on.
He looks different without the thick black eyeshadow and old all-black clothes. Instead, the boy's face is covered in bruises, scratches, and blood. His left eye is swollen shut and there's blood dripping from his mouth. He's dressed in shredded brown shorts and a hoodie much too big for his frame. I can only assume it was Damien's.
No one wanted to take the time to explain the Carrion family to Trinity. It felt dumb and unnecessary. What good was 'Hey did you know there's ANOTHER weirdo family in Ravenbrooks?' What help was it to talk about Lucy Yi's funeral, and the boy from the rich old family who stood up in front of a crowd of sobbing adults and talked about how graceful her corpse looked?
Dad interviewed his parents after it happened, or tried to at least. Apparently, they slammed the door in his face, violently. Stopped showing their faces in public. "I'd be a shut-in two if my creepy son ruined my family name" he muttered angrily after the fact. Hard cut-offs from rich snobs were an annoying barricade to reporters everywhere.
There's such a long period of silence. Empty cold silence and Trinity got out a first aid kit. Enzo cleared his throat finally, but didn't speak.
"...What happened to you, Zach?" I looked up from my spot on the couch. I was surprised to see Nicky speaking, his arms crossed anxiously over his chest. There was almost an heir of demand in his question. Like he of all people was owed an answer. I fought the urge to scoff.
"We... I-" Zach's lip trembled, showing off how busted it up was. If it weren't for the nature of the town, I would've thought he was mugged. His trembles turned into violent sobs again. Damien, who was seemingly deep in thought until now, was snapped into reality by this.
"...Can we trust you guys not to tell anyone?" Damien asked. We all exchanged glances suspiciously, and worriedly, then nodded. He took a long breath. "We were having a sleepover at my house." He said quietly, chewing his lip like he was preparing his words. "I- I don't know if my parents put something in our food or what, but for some reason, we were feeling really tired before the sun had even set, so we went to bed. By some miracle I woke up maybe an hour later and- he was gone... so was my parent's car."
He sat there for a minute like that was enough explanation for their busted-up state.
"...and then?" I prodded. His eyes snapped to me, blinking and chewing his lips in the unsure thinking way again.
"Oh- uh... right. Well-... listen. You- you guys really can't tell anyone about this. Please." He pled.
"We won't," Trinity promised again, this time aloud. She ripped the end of the bandage on his arm, tying it off.
"Well- I'd been getting suspicious of my parents, they always get weird and clingy when Zach visits, and other times they'll disappear for the whole night- so- so I put a tracker on their car." He inhaled after the reveal. Silence again. "...and- I followed the car to the old weather station."
Even breathing seemed to stop in silence as he described the scene to us, the weird tunnel, and the people in robes, two of whom he said he recognized as his parents. Who else could've brought Zach there?
"...what were they doing?" Trinity asked nervously.
"I don't know for sure, something about attempting to 'repeat the steps'. All I know is the group went from quiet and mysterious to- really violent." Zach began to sob again.
"A pit..." he whispered between large tears that matched his wide blue-grey eyes. "Th-they wanted to push me into a pit..."
"I grabbed whatever I could get my hands on around me, I think it was a metal rod from some piece of old machinery. I swung it at their heads. Then there was this- flash of blinding light and- I don't remember much of what happened next..." he admitted. "All I remember is that as soon as I could reach him I grabbed Zach's hand and ran through the forest. We didn't stop to breathe until we saw your house." He looked at Trinity. "You guys are the ones investigating 'whatever evil crap this town is built on' after all, aren't you?" Out of the corner of my eye, I could see Nicky's shoulders raise awkwardly as he rubbed his arm.
The last time I checked, helping the hippy kid whose parents are, apparently, attempted child murderers and the creepy boy whose dad gives money to crows wasn't in the club's mission statement. But there was this spark in Trinity's eyes. It reminded me of the spark she'd gotten months ago, standing infront of Peterson's house in the middle of the night.
"it's us, or it's nobody."
#return to ravenbrooks#hello neighbor return to ravenbrooks#rtrb#hello neighbor au#hello neighbor#drawing#artwork#maritza esposito#artists on tumblr#digital illustration#hello neighbor story
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Already Won Me Over Sneak Peak
A Follow Up 'Love Me Or Just Let Me Go'
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Sorry for the delay! I meant to post this yesterday, but I got real fuckin' picky about certain things, because I'm ✨annoying✨ ANYWAY, this is just a snippet of what's to come, and I hope you all enjoy it! You all get heartbreaking smut, cause tomorrow is Valentine's Day!! 🙃🙃
Warnings: SMUT (MINORS DNI), Swearing, Heartbreak, Arguing, Violence, Angst, Uhh...I think that's it for now.
I do not give permission/consent for my works/stories to be posted elsewhere. I do not condone this kind of behavior or relationship, this is for entertainment purposes only.
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“We need to get in and out of your apartment. Only grab what’s important,” he tells you softly as he turns on the car.
“Yeah,�� you agree softly.
That was the extent of the conversation you two had.
You’ve never had such a quiet car ride with Jonathan, and you hate it. You hate this. Besides the fact that almost everyone you know and love has been attacked tonight, and you feel like it’s your fault, you also don’t know what the fuck to do about you and Jonathan. After everything that was said tonight, all of the tears and begging, he still can’t just fucking say it. You can’t help but grow tired of all of this shit. Yeah, it sucks that he feels like shit, but you’re not doing this to him.
He’s doing it to the both of you.
“Jonathan,” you sigh as he gets out of the car along with you, “I can go up on my-”
“You can get as far away from me as you want when we get home. For now, I’m coming up with you. I don’t want to argue anymore-”
“Fine, lets just get it over with,” you mutter, quickly making your way inside, Jonathan following behind you with a low groan as he sighs.
Sigh, sigh, sigh. Yeah well, this part isn’t on you.
“Is there anything I shouldn’t bring?” you question, unlocking your door.
“You only need to bring-”
“Welcome home,” a man with a thick accent greets as soon as you open your door, his fist already traveling towards your face, but you duck just in time.
“I haven’t had a bad enough day?!” you growl, head butting the much larger man in the chest, forcing him inside.
“I love a bitch who can fight,” the man laughs darkly, pushing you aside.
“Get out of my HOUSE!” you scream, picking up the vase of flowers Jonathan bought you hours ago and throwing them at the man, missing him by millimeters.
“This is barely a shoe box,” the man laughs, pulling out his revolver.
“Well, that’s not very nice, now is it?” Jonathan growls, grabbing one of the bar stools and smashing the man over the back of his head with it.
That has you freezing on the spot. You’ve never seen Jonathan’s violence, and you’re not sure how you feel about it now that you have.
“You break into her home,” Jonathan continues roughly, still beating the man with stool as it creaks and cracks, “try to hurt her, and then insult her home?! Where are your manners, Ivan?! HUH?!” he roars, slamming the wooden stool against the countertop, breaking off one of its legs. “Who else has been running around Gotham doing Boris’ dirty work?! Y/N’s Mom, her Uncle, her friends?! Who did it?!”
You glance over and see that the door is still open; you run to close it, knowing that it’s bound to get bloodier and more violent.
“I asked you a fucking question!” Jonathan broods, hitting the man with the broken stool leg.
“Boris warned you,” the man coughs out while trying to fend off Jonathan, wildly flailing his arms as he rolls side to side on the floor like a broken metronome.
“And I warned Boris! The fuck ups you all make are on you! It’s not my fucking job to fix it! You go after someone I care about and you think there won’t be any fucking repercussions?! I warned all of you and now look!”
“Dr. Crane-”
“Dr. Crane isn’t in right now!” he snarls, striking the guy across the face again before tossing the the bloody stool leg aside. “Now, apologize to the woman.” The man spits out a tooth, groaning to himself.
“Boris just wants-”
“APOLOGIZE!” Jonathan roars.
“I’m-I’m sorry, Ma’am,” the man sobs at you.
“Good boy,” Jonathan praises as he pulls out his .45. “I think I’ll make you the first casualty in Boris’ army.”
“Dr. Crane-” his words feebly teeter from his bleeding mouth.
You cover your mouth as you yelp at the steely explosive bang from the gun shot and take a step back. This day is really taking a toll on you.
He stands up straight, breathing heavy, before turning to look at you. His hair is wild, half of his face is splattered with blood. His eyes are still and wild. You’re not sure how to feel about it, but you can’t help the arousal pooling between your legs at his feral state in the soft glow of the night.
“Pack while I run through his pockets,” he tells you after a moment, pushing back his messy hair.
“You should shower,” you tell him weakly, looking from him to Ivan’s lifeless body.
“Y/N-”
“You have clothes here. You walking out there covered in his blood is a bad look. You should shower and I’ll call the cops-”
“Don’t. I’ll take care of it,” he interrupts, tone still authoritative as he tries to calm down. “Are you okay? Did he hurt you?”
“No, no, I’m fine. I promise,” you answer calmly as a soft tapping on your door has you jumping.
“Y/N? Are you okay dear?” your elderly neighbor, Miss Francine, asks softly, and a soft chuckle leaves your mouth before you can stop it.
Are you okay? That’s laughable right now.
“I’m alright, Miss Francine. You need to get back to your room, it’s not safe in the hallway at this hour.”
“Do you need me to call someone? I’m not afraid of these thugs!” she says defiantly, and you laugh to yourself softly.
You love her so much.
“No no, I have someone here with me. I’m safe, I promise.”
“Alright dear. Good night,” she calls softly and you hear her footsteps retreating, soon followed by her door opening and closing.
“Pack,” Jonathan repeats sternly.
“Shower,” you tell him softly, giving Ivan’s dead body one last look before going into your room.
You look around and you can’t decide where to begin. Your mind can’t and won’t slow down. You’ve just seen Jonathan murder someone, and he murdered that person for you. How the fuck is it easier for him to murder someone than fucking admitting that he loves someone? Even when he was beating the man to death, all he could say was, ‘someone I care about’.
Yeah, that’s the last thing you should be thinking about right now, but if there’s ever a time for an accidental ‘I love you’, that would be it. Damn, maybe there is a part of you that’s a self absorbed little shit, but you’re not about to feel ashamed about it. Not after all that’s happened tonight.
You hear the shower turn on, and your mind is instantly reminded of something else.
No matter what he can or won’t say, he still killed someone. He killed them without hesitation and he did it for you. In that moment, all that mattered was keeping you safe, and he had no thought for his self care at all. His only focus was you and keeping you safe.
Plus, truth be told, him looking so unhinged and wild? A total turn on for you that you weren’t expecting at all.
No, none of this is ideal and you still don’t know what the hell you’re gonna do about the both of you, but you know that you’re lonely and in pain. There’s only one person you want right now, and he’s the last person you should want right now.
God damn him for making you love him so damn much.
You slowly take off your dress and strapless bra, at war with yourself about whether or not you should go through with this, but the part of you that needs a release wins. Sure, you could have a drink or a smoke, but it won’t be enough. Besides, it’s not like you won’t be drinking till you’re numb in the face for the next few weeks anyways. No, it’s not the best solution, but you’re done trying to be smart and logical for the moment. You’ve been at war with yourself since all of this started, and you’re just so damn tired of thinking.
You just want to feel something other than sadness and pain.
“Y/N, you should be...Y/N,” Jonathan trails off as you get in the shower with him.
“I can pack after,” you tell him softly, looking him over, fingers lightly tracing over his faded scars. “You didn’t have to attack that man-”
“I wasn’t gonna let him hurt you.”
“I can take care of myself.”
“I know you can, but I want-need to take care of you.”
“Why?”
“Because I care about you,” he huffs, and you can hear him at war with himself.
Well, fuck it. If he isn’t gonna say it, you will. Again.
“I love you-”
“Sweetheart-”
“I love you, Jonathan. I don’t care if you don’t wanna hear it, I don’t care if you don’t think you deserve it, and I don’t care if you don’t want me to say it. It’s a fucking fact. I love you and I’ve never loved anyone this much, and I know I never will again, no matter what happens. I am so painfully in love with you, Jonathan Crane. You may be afraid of your feelings, but I’m not afraid of mine,” you tell him without fear or trepidation in your heart.
If this is the end of the both of you, you may as well lay all your cards on the table.
“Y/N...,” he sobs, looking away from you, and your heart breaks.
He truly is broken by all of this.
You gently grab his face and turn it towards you, “You tell me you care about me? Then show me. Show me just how much you care,” you beg softly, tears in your eyes.
Just like that, he’s gone for you.
He’s crashing his lips into yours as he presses you against the wet shower tiles, your back squishing against it. It feels like Heaven. Moaning into the kiss, you grind yourself against him while his hands travel down your sides softly; almost as if he’s afraid to touch you, as if he feels like he doesn’t deserve it.
“Show me, Jonathan,” you breathe against his lips, begging him to give you a reason to fight for more. “Show me how much you care. Show me how much I mean to you.”
This time, he grips your thighs and hoists you up, no hesitation present as you instinctively wrap your legs around his waist while he trails kisses down your neck, desperate to cover every inch of you in them.
“Dr. Crane,” you whimper, running your fingers through his hair as one of his hands starts massaging one of your breasts.
“No...please don’t...call me by my name, I need to hear you say it,” he cries shamefully.
At least you can believe it’s more than a filthy hook up now.
“Jonathan...Jonathan I need to feel you,” you pant, eyes clenching shut at the feel of his fingers kneading your nipple between his fingertips. “I need you!” “I don’t deserve you,” he groans, slowly sliding you down on him.
“Shit!” you cry, still not used to the way he so easily pulls you apart.
“I’m so sorry,” he husks, slowly moving within you, kissing along your neck, “I ruined everything and I’m sorry!”
“Just wanna be with you right now. Tired...tired of thinking,” you moan, focusing your attention back on him, which was extremely hard since he kept- “OH MY GOD! That’s the...fuck! Right there, don’t stop!”
“You’re so fucking beautiful,” he marvels, his grip on you getting tighter as he helps you chase your release.
“I love you,” you sigh, feeling your core tightening.
“Y/N-”
“I love you,” you repeat, not relenting because of his guilt for his past.
It’s not like you ever meant to fall in love, or that you even wanted to you, but you did. For all your planning, and hoping for it to be a one time thing, it hasn’t panned out that way at all.
“God, you’re clenching me so fucking tight, sweetheart,” he grunts, his movements becoming quicker as you dig your nails into his shoulders, “feels so good being inside of you...getting lost in you.”
“Fuck! Jonathan!”
“Never knew someone could ever love me like you do,” he continues with a breathless pant, changing his angle just a bit to hit that spot deep within you.
“Oh fuck!”
“Never knew how much I needed to be loved by you!”
“Jonathan...I can’t...I can’t...oh shit!”
“C’mon baby! Give it to me! I wanna feel your love!”
“YES!” you cry out, your release washing over you as you tighten your legs around Jonathan for fear of falling if you don’t.
The bastard may have broken your heart, but he’s the closest you’ll ever get to Heaven.
“You okay, baby?” he asks softly, tenderly stoking your face .
All you can do is nod.
“Do you need more?”
Once again, all you can do is nod.
He’s quick to turn off the shower, keeping his hold on you tight as gets out of the shower. He walks you both to the bedroom, and your eyes land on Ivan’s dead body. God, of all the ways you thought this night was going to end, this wasn’t at all what you had in mind.
“I want you on your back,” you tell him as he goes to lay you down.
You can tell that you’ve caught him off guard. He does what you want nonetheless, and lays back on the bed, looking at you with eyes that are filled with adoration and guilt. Usually you’re not on top unless he puts you up there. That’s rare because he likes hearing the screams that leave your mouth when he fucks you hard from behind, or watch as the euphoria overtakes you when he gives you an orgasm.
You place your hands on his chest and start to ride him slowly, your hips grinding against him, mouth slightly agape at the feel of the new angle and how deep he is.
“Touch me, Jonathan,” you beg pathetically, starting to pick up your pace once you’ve adjusted to him. “I want to feel you everywhere I can.”
“Sweetheart-”
“Jonathan, please. I just need you right now,” you practically sob.
There’s a dead man laying in your living room. Your best friend may never walk again. Someone tried to kill your Mother. Your ‘Uncle’ is laid up in the hospital and his wife has been killed. The man responsible for turning your life upside down in the best and worst ways during all this can’t even tell you that he loves you.
If all you can have is temporary bliss that only he can provide, then you’ll take it and beg for him to show you the things he’s ashamed to show. Besides, who knows when you two will have each other like this again.
If ever.
“God, you’re so fucking beautiful, baby,” he groans, his hands slowly traveling up your torso.
“You think so?” you question, your damp hair falling in front of your face as you look down at him, biting your bottom lip in a weak attempt to quiet your moans as he starts massaging your breasts.
No, having sex on your bed soaking wet probably isn’t the best idea, but it’s not like you’ll be sleeping in it for a while.
“Fuck yeah...GOD!” he groans as you roll your hips against his.
“Shit!”
“Gotta have you on top of me more often,” he husks, sitting up and wrapping his arms around you, “I love watching you take whatever you want from me. You can take whatever you need, baby. You can always take what you need from me,” he promises as he grips your ass.
“Oh fuck!”
“Bring yourself on my cock like the good girl you are, baby. I know you can fucking do it,” he encourages, licking his thumb before bringing it between the two of you, rubbing your most sensitive bud.
“Jonathan!”
“I know you wanna cum for me, baby. I know you wanna make a mess all over me, don’t you, baby?”
“Fuuu-yes!”
“Cause you’re my good girl?” “Jonathan!”
“Say it, baby. Tell me you’re my good girl!”
“Fuck yes!” you cry out, lulling your head back as you squirt hard, floating out of your own body for just a moment.
“My messy little princess,” he praises with a grunt.
In one swift move, you’re on your back and Jonathan is fucking into you relentlessly.
“Shit!”
“You’re always gonna be my girl, baby. I know I’m a mess right now, but I will fix this. I’ll make this right,” he promises, holding himself up as he cradles your face with the other hand.
Your eyes sting as you hold back tears at his words, because you honestly don’t know what the fuck to do. You don’t know what happens after all of this gets settled.
“I don’t fucking deserve you,” he pants as his movements become erratic, “but I need you. I need you so damn much, baby!”
“Too...it’s too much,” you sob as you feel that knot in your core tighten.
“Give it to me, give me everything,” he begs breathlessly, his grip on neck getting tighter.
“JONATHAN!” you scream out, tears spilling over from the pleasure coursing through your body and the pain in your heart as you squirt hard. One hand grips him and the other grips the bed sheets.
“My perfect princess,” he groans as he spills inside of you, his hand almost giving out.
As he rides out both of your highs, the room is filled with nothing but your silent sobs and heavy breathing between the both of you.
Not a word is said as he pulls out and you both start to get dressed. He’s first to exit as soon as he’s dressed, and you can only assume that he instantly goes to search through Ivan’s pockets. You take your time packing up what you deem necessary. You grab all of your photos, wanting to make sure that no one else gets hurt because of your...whatever with Jonathan. You pack up your laptop, Mr. Fin, the hideous ash tray Jonathan got you in Hawaii, a few books, some comfort clothes, and basic hair supplies. You give your room a once over, fighting back more tears, before making your way out to see Jonathan sitting at the kitchen island and drinking bourbon.
“Do you have everything?” he asks, not even looking in your direction as he swirls his drink around in the glass.
“Just have to grab makeup and hair products out of-”
“I can buy you more. It’s not important.”
“Then yes, I guess I have everything,” you snap, voice edging between anger and bitterness. “Do you have everything.” “Everything that I need,” he shrugs, downing the rest of his drink before putting it in the sink. “Lets go.”
You’re quick to grab the photo of your birthday party by the door on your way out, and shut the door behind you, walking past Jonathan in an attempt to get the elevator as fast as you can.
Your mind is racing and you just wanna lay down.
The entire elevator ride down, Jonathan is tapping his foot and fidgeting with his fingers. He’s mad at himself. You know that he thinks he revealed too much of himself to you, and that makes you even madder at him. He’s already broken your heart, what the hell does he think will happen if he’s actually sweet to you during intimacy? That you’ll go off and tell everyone in Gotham that he does, in fact, have a soul and a good heart?
It’s not like anyone would believe you anyway.
The second you two are back inside his house, you’re grabbing the things you left on the floor earlier, and racing up the steps. You’re more than happy to stay locked away in a room, but the only issue is that you don’t know any other room besides Jonathan’s.
“Just take my room,” he encourages softly as he makes his way up the steps.
“I can stay in another-”
“None of the other rooms have been slept in, in years. My room is the only room ready, and the only one I feel comfortable having you in.”
“I don’t want to be around you.”
“Lucky for you, I won’t be sleeping much.”
“When you do-”
“I know my house better than you. I’ll stay far away from you, just take my damn room,” he instructs before turning and racing back down the steps and disappearing around a corner.
You stick your tongue out in the direction he went before turning and making your way into his room, closing the door behind you. As you drop your bags, you look around and let out a deep breath.
Welcome to your new life for the next few weeks.
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Tyler is an interesting villain imo (especially the way he is written in the book) and I hate how much w*lers reduce and downplay that because all they care about is that "romance"
Yes, thank you for saying that, I love to rant about this sort of characterization stuff. You are so right, too. As a stand-alone character, Tyler has the potential to be a wonderfully complex villain. There are many factors to take into account about him, not just his trickery of Wednesday or whatever romance they want to assign to that. I mean, Laurel clearly grooms him, who knows how sexual that actually was. It gave me such chills in the flashbacks every time she would stroke his neck and arm.
And then there's the nuance of how much agency he actually has through their master/Hyde bond. How much is really him? How much is the Hyde? How much of regular Tyler is a psychopath is what I want to know, he says he grew to enjoy it, but how much is the Hydes mind influencing him? Is his Hyde like a werewolf? How much is Gates actually influencing his mind and decisions? Did he take on some of her personality and hated of outcasts? Or was he already like that before when he and the pilgrim squad assaulted Xavier. I'm fascinated to find out next season.
The way Hunter plays the switch between the persona Tyler puts on and the real Tyler is the real Jekyll and Hyde, and it's just amazing. He does such a good job the way you can actually see the shift. I too loved in the novel the way they expanded on it, I had been going crazy from the first watch through on how I missed what kind of artist Tyler was since they said Hydes were artistic types and then boom the book said it "In that moment I forgive myself for being fooled. I remember Faulkner's words in his journal: the Hyde is an artist by nature."
Tyler is an actor, and in my opinion, his greatest performance was the scene in the police station when he reveals to Wednesday that she was right. The way he easily slips back into the mask that he puts on to fool everyone. He is so good at making himself look like he is the victim of Wednesday's crazy paranoia, not that he's the actual monster.
Yeah, I know what you mean about some of the w*lers, I don't think they really understand his or Wednesday's character that well. She is absolutely revolted by him now, not only because he tricked her but because he hurt Eugene, not to mention the murders as well, and I just really don't think they see that.
Like Wednesday talks a big game, but she tells Thing in episode 2 her worst fear is that she'll be responsible for something terrible. She compared herself to Ivan the Terrible, saying she wanted to be good terrible like him, I'm assuming this philosophy is why she protected pugsley by putting piranha in the pool. Ivan, the Terribles' name was in its original translation meant inspiring of awe or fear, like what Wednesday did with the piranhas. Which does not fit with Tyler's apparent urge to kill, Wednesday is and has been violent to protect her family and friends from people who want to hurt them, and it seems like Tyler has been increasingly more violent because he's begun to enjoy it.
Then there's some of the w*lers who get mad when I say that he clearly doesn't actually have feelings for Wednesday. In the show, he just called her a cockroach, but in the book, it expanded more to say how he wanted to kill Wednesday from the start, but Gates wouldn't let him. Like this is not the enemies to lovers they seem to think it is.
#tyler is a good enemy not a good romantic interest#tyler galpin is a villain and thats not a bad thing#anti wyler#wednesday#anti tyler x wednesday#wednesday addams#wednesday netflix#the addams family
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Real Friends: A Hello Neighbor Fanfic
By JJ
Summary: Lucy and Mya have to remind Nicky who his real friends are.
Nicky threw his bedroom door open, holding his stomach.
He didn't know why, but after he ate anything, all he felt like doing was throwing up. He didn't know why. He thought it was just a stomach bug, but each time, it got more violent.
He didn't want to tell his parents, he knew they wouldn't listen. They never did.
Nicky took a very deep breath, and let it out slowly. Somehow, that seemed to calm his stomach down. Once he was calmed down enough, he got into bed, and tried to get comfortable, but something else was bothering him.
He felt a chill up his spine, and he turned around to see his window open.
Didn't he close it?
He got up and closed it, and this time, he made sure he locked it. He turned around to go back to bed, but then he saw something in the corner of his bedroom.
"Hey, Nicky. Remember me?"
Nicky jumped back, falling on his bed. He'd been seeing that same shadow in his room ever since he got home from the basement. And it wasn't just his room, it was everywhere he went. No matter where he looked, he saw that same creepy shadow.
And every time he saw this shadow, it would always take the form of his two dead friends. Lucy Yi and Mya Peterson.
"We missed you, Nicky.", said Mya, sounding sad. She extended her arms out to him, "Let me give you a hug."
Nicky backed up into the wall, cornering himself between the wall and Mya, and she trapped him in her dark arms. This hug wasn't anywhere near comforting. It was before, when she was alive, but not anymore.
"Why won't you let me hold you, Nicky?", Mya asked, "Don't you love us anymore?"
Lucy leaned back against the wall, "Obviously not, Mya. If he really loved us, he'd let Crowface kill him."
Nicky pushed Mya away, getting up from his bed. "Lucy, how could you say that?!", he angrily asked.
"If you really loved us, if Aaron really loved us, then you guys would do anything to be with us again, even kill yourselves. You two have done nothing to be with us again, so of course we had to be mean to you.", Lucy said. "If driving you to the brink of insanity didn't kill you, then I thought maybe Crowface would. But then you got scared when he threatened you, and now I'm really mad."
Lucy stopped talking normally, and started growling.
"Lucy, I'm sorry. I really do love you guys. But I don't want to die.", said Nicky, afraid.
"But death is the only way we can be together again.", said Mya. "We're your best friends, Nicky."
Nicky turned to look at Mya, "I know, Mya. But if I kill myself, how do you think everyone else would feel? I have parents, and I have other friends here."
"Who? These friends?", said Lucy.
Nicky turned to look at Lucy, staring at the picture of him, Enzo, Maritza, and Ivan.
It was their first club meeting, and they were all so happy together. Nothing mattered back then. Mr. Peterson didn't matter to them, well, he didn't matter to anyone except Nicky. Curses didn't matter, death didn't matter, everyone was just happy and care free.
"These are the people you want as your friends? People who never cared about you enough to try and save you from Mr. Peterson?", growled Lucy, snatching the picture off the wall and shoving it in Nicky's face. "You're pathetic."
"Lucy, please -"
"Enzo is a coward, Maritza is a jerk, and Ivan is just as much of a coward as Enzo.", snapped the girl, "And if you weren't being such a doormat to these people, you were being a scapegoat for your grandma!"
"Ugh! Don't even bring up the grandmother.", said Mya. "You told us yourself that he was always such a meanie to you, from the moment you were born."
"I know, but I was being mean to her. I even told her I hated her at Lucy's funeral, and I regret it more than anything.", said Nicky, his voice cracking and his eyes filling with tears. He wiped them away before he continued, "And I would do anything to see her again, I'd do anything to see you guys again, but I don't want to die."
Lucy balled her fist, clenched her teeth, and growled at Nicky. "You're a pathetic, naive, disgusting little liar.", she threw the picture to the ground, earning a loud crash and bang as the glass broke on the floor.
Nicky leaned down, trying to pick up the picture, miraculously not scraping himself on the broken glass. "Lucy, what the hell?! That -"
Lucy slapped Nicky across the face, watching him fall to the floor. "If you won't kill yourself, then we'll have to kill you ourselves. Mya, get him!", she said.
The two shadows emerged into one taller, skinnier shadow.
Nicky ran to his door, trying to open it, but it wouldn't budge.
But he didn't remember locking it! So how the hell was it locked?!
A bang on his window startled him from his thoughts, and he turned around to see not only the shadow gone, but rocks being thrown at his window.
He walked to his window to see who it was, and his eyes lit up when he saw his friends. Trinity, Maritza, Ivan, Enzo, even Delroy was here, and they weren't even friends.
He opened his window to see what they wanted.
#hello neighbor#welcome to raven brooks#nicky roth#lucy yi#mya peterson#shadow man#my fics#hello neighbor fanfic#trinity bales#enzo esposito#maritza esposito#ivan#delroy
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HITTING YOU WITH MORE CHARACTERS FOR THE AU!!! /silly
Long post :P
Dexter: A rat king. I know that this is a real phenomenon and not exactly a monster but hear me out: Dexter is literally ALL the rats in town, he can see and move through their bodies, he can also make several of them group together inside his exterminator suit to try to imitate a human form. It has its advantages but Dexter is one of those who have the worst time with his curse.
Bob: Wendigo (a creature so associated with cannibalism was perfect for Bob) is much more violent now and is always on the lookout for new humans who may come to town. With the exception of the protagonists (Ivan, Maurice, etc.) he was the one who killed most of the humans who came to town.
Hatzgang: Merged into a hydra/chimera. I was thinking of something similar to Falin from Dungeon mesi with branching necks connecting their human torsos to the Big body.
They are one of the most aggressive monsters (especially Roy), but it is also easy to defeat them since all they have to do is argue each other to distract them.
Jaune: A mermaid, quite wild and aggressive. Sings to attract all kinds of creatures to the lake and, well, devour them. Lila looks familiar to her but she doesn't remember why.
Aaron: Captain of a ghost ship. Similar to Frank's train, but in his case he only travels across the lake and does not force anyone to join his crew (of which by the way Liv is a member), he spends his nights trying to find Jaune but the curse keeps them separated.
Richard: Harpy, he flyes through the skies of the town looking for any information that may be useful to Carmen. He is along her the king of the mountains.
OOOOOO
Oh my god I love all of these
Dexter literally being 20 rats in a trench coat (or exterminator suit rather) is SO cool!! Also really funny. I like how it also parallels him with his mom, she can flawlessly assume a human form while Dexter, uh... He's trying his best. Him being able to control all the rats is rad too!
Yeah Bob being a wendigo sounds about right. I imagine Ivan has encountered him at least once and has him as top priority on the "find a way to kill/avoid at all costs" list
Immediate thought is the Ceberus Hatz from the SM 6 credits -- usual depictions of chimeras have one head as a lion, another as a goat, and the third as a snake, though looking (briefly) at old art, swapping the snake with a dragon's head wasn't out of the question. I'm gonna assume Roy's the lion, Robert's the goat, and Ross is the snake/dragon (probably snake bc Aaron)
Siren Jaune!!! I love that! Could probably be some cool fish to base her on too-- don't have much to say but her not remembering Lila- aw :[
Also- Oh my god Captain Aaron. That is so cool! I also love how that kind of sets him as a foil to Frank, since while they're both the heads of ghost vessels, Frank kidnaps people and just has the train in mind, while Aaron just has his own funky little crew that willingly came aboard and is trying to find his wife. And then he's never able to find her awww :[
I love the detail of Liv being with him too, she so would. Makes me think of the HH all being split up into different parts of the town
Oooo harpy Richard! Don't have much to say about him either, but I like how he's very much serving Carmen despite being king. Also the mental image I got of Richard as a harpy made me laugh lmao
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rockrockrock i'm stealing your idea *violently slams hands on invisible table* gimme any headcanons you have for ALNST characters my fellow transgener
*looks at you deadass* aye aye captain i will do my best
Blue tbh I didn't know about the canonical bisexual words of the god (vivinos) but I will admit, I only really headcanon Hyuna and Till as bi.(Sua and Ivan wlw/mlm hostility my beloved)
I see Sua as a lesbian, maybe demiromantic? A Mizisexual, if you will. She only seems to ever like Mizi and I can't really imagine her having a crush on anyone else, to be honest. Basically, I feel like she's on the aro-spectrum. I like to think she's nonverbal autistic as well, insofar as she'll talk but when she gets really overstimulated/something bad happens, she just shuts down.
Mizi is usually a lesbian to me? but she could totally be bi, like that wouldn't stop her. If she's bi, though, she's got a preference towards women. She's got her vision problems, maybe she's far-sighted (can't see close up) instead of near-sighted? Which could be symbolic of her idealism.
Till is bisexual (not that he knows that) and I feel as though he just likes pretty people but that his type between men and women is actually different. I do like to believe that Till could/would have feelings for Ivan if given the chance and tbh Ivan and Mizi are not very similar so you know good for him. Till is very audhd (autism & adhd) to me and he would probably have combined type adhd (which is what i haaaave) because he's absentminded and restless? I think he definitely has auditory processing issues.
Ivan is gay and trans to me. I'm sorry, I've written him as transmasc for a long time and I proceed to interpret him that way because it furthers his feelings of isolation as well as cementing the way that people put him up on a pedestal and yet they don't really know him at all. Autism, next question (joking, joking) but I've already gone to bat as to some of the reasons why Ivan is autistic and so I rest my case. He feels like he's on the aro/ace spectrum to me too just because I don't think he'd ever be romantically interested in anyone other than Till.
a-spec and autism sua/ivan siblings unite
Hyuna is also bisexual but her type when it comes to men is sopping wet cats only. She likes them pathetic. I feel like she could have adhd? Hyperactive type, not really inattentive, but who knows. Maybe trans woman? Just because why not? After all, she and Hyun-Woo are practically identical, could be identical twins. With disabilities, I think besides her leg she deals with nerve damage and ghost pain. Give that carefree beautiful woman some chronic pain
Luka . . . I don't know about him. I don't feel like I know enough about him yet, to make any real calls. Maybe a-spec? Asexual? Hm. hmhmhm
i hope this is satisfactory but feel free to ask any follow up questions you pleaseeee i like to talk if you haven't already noticed that haha
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My vote for the ML Monster AU cast:
Fablehaven style Unicorn for Rose
Witch Sabrina (she is sooooo witch coded)
Invisible Man Marc (the bandage thing actually comes from the original novel, The Invisble Man, BTW. Not super important, just a fun fact).
Troll for Ivan, but only if you're set on making Kim a gargoyle. Otherwise, swap them. Gargoyle Ivan as a callback to Stoneheart and Troll Kim because now he'd be a literal AND figurative troll.
Max as some sort of creature that can possess electrical objects. The easiest way to do this with pre-existing creatures would be Poltergeist, but you could also call him a Phantom Virus like the one from Scooby Doo. Markov is what happens when you possess one thing for too long and it starts retaining some of your free will.
If you don't make Max a Poltergeist, I'd give it to Nathaniel. If you do make Max a poltergeist, I'd make Nath some kind of shadow walker/boogie man creature ala Twila from Monster High. Otherwise, maybe
For alternative options for Alya and Kagami:
I will suggest Zombie for Alya because she is dead-set on hunting you down to pick your brain for information and she will break into places you don't want her like a zombie.
Red-Cap for Kagami, maybe? Red-Caps are creatures created due to violence and anger and are known for their blood-stained caps. It's like a creepy and violent gnome variant. If you see a red-cap in your dream, it's a warning about how you need to chill on the violence and anger and try to solve your problems with peaceful resolutions instead. The symbolism could honestly work for anybody in ML due to the whole "allowing negative emotions to control you turns you into a supervillain" shtick. But Kagami's introduction with the "aggressively challenge you to a swordfight to prove my worth" thing feels particularly appropriate. Although the Red-Cap origin is probably more applicable to Chloe or Felix than the HC version of Kagami.
I think we're going Unicorn!Rose
Ofc Sabrina is witch coded lmao
Marc just being some invisible creature is fun.
I am set on Gargoyle!Kim because the idea of this stone creature trying to swim is killing me
Max as a ghost going full Phantom Virus because he wants to be in videogames for real lmao.
Zombie!Alya all I can think about is that show iZombie where that girl becomes a Zombie and starts working at the morgue for brains but she gets visions of their memories and solves murders.
Not sure I'm feeling the redcap.
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(spoilers for alien stage round 7!)
Since I'm kind in a alien stage brainrot (if you hadn't noticed with the whole alien stage theme I have going on rn) i think what if till died BUT instead of going to the afterlife, he went to twst! I think it would be funner if till got transported to ramshackle during chapter 4 with the whole vdc thing yk.
Till held his hand out to mizi, and so does she. They try to reach each other but as soon as they were about to touch, a gunshot went off and Till falls on the ground. Luka has won, Till has lost and will suffer the consequences of his failure. he clings onto life as mizi climbs the stage and puts his head on her lap. She looks at her dying friend with tears in her eyes. He looks at the crying mizi, remembering all the moments they'd shared over the years of knowing each other. His life was flashing before his eyes. In a final attempt at life, he, with all his strength held her hand for a moment before he closes his eyes and the memories starts to fade away, he can't hear anything, he can barely see as well, but he can feel the wet droplets of tears falling on his face. His hand drops as his eyes begin to become lifeless. Till has died.
Till open his eyes, all he can see is pitch black as he feels as if he was falling rapidly. He coughs violently finally realizing what had happened, hands settling at the area where he got shot, he feels like theres a scar there.. strange, he got shot but this scar is far too big for a gunshot scar. He has a feeling of unease as time went on. Why is he falling? Why is it all dark? is this the afterlife? Well he continue to fall forever? Is this hell? Is this his punishment for not going with Ivan? Or was it becomes he was never really that kind to Ivan.
Till had so many questions and yet, no answers. He's getting more and more anxious by the second. He doesn't wanna be here forever, but he feels like he deserves it. He closes his eyes for a second and opened them, he expected to see pitch black but he instead sees a sky, he looks down and sees the ground, he doesn't know what to do, his falling rapidly. Will he die a second time? He doesn't know, all he can do is close his eyes as he braces for impact.
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Till falls on the ground with a THUD. It doesn't hurt as much as he thought it would, honestly he thought he would splatter on the ground and die again. Murmurs could be head by till, he opened his eyes and saw people, many people actually. They were all speaking amongst themselves as he looked back at them. One of them realized Till was looking at them, the person points to him and all of them turned their heads towards him. Many of them were shocked, some were concern, one person had this look of amusement and interest in their eyes.
After a moment of silence, one person, who looked to be 16 years old male with short black hair and a weird animal in his grasps. The person asks him. "Who are you? And are you alright? You fell from the sky."
Till was about to answer but his vision starts to fade. The person who asked if he was alright looked worried and hurried to Till, the person was saying something but all he could do was reach out to that person as he soon lost consciousness.
Ok woah wow, i did not expect to write my idea this way...i was gonna do like the usual lay out i do with the
Till: (insert text)
And stuff.. anyways I hoped you enjoyed this bc there's a high chance I won't continue this lolz 💀 also i didn't proofread it so-
#twisted wonderland#twst#disney twst#twst yuu#twisted wonderland yuu#alien stage#alnst till#alnst ivan#alnst crossover#crossover#till in twisted wonderland#I'm grieving over my baby till
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