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#picardedit#picard spoilers#raffi x seven#seven x raffi#saffi#its been 84 years I KNOW#its not my fault when s3 only gave us crumbs#anyway#part six has made me so mad that i just have to make smth#to calm myself
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Supernatural s5
I finished it a little while ago, but I havenât had the time to make an involved post about it -or watch that much of s6 yet; Iâm trying to be Resposible and the time I have has been spent in advancing fics a little bit or answering short asks lol.
-I have really enjoyed this season for the most part, but thereâs something I need to get of my chest LOL: all through it, the song âToo Many Dicks (On The Dance Floor)â played in my head xDD. Like, listen, I knew what I was signing up for with this show!! I didnât expect NOT to find it offensive or regressive on multiple occasions!! But I guess s3-4 must have spoiled me lmao. Iâm not saying those seasons are the height of feminism, but if you removed its most important female characters, ESPECIALLY Ruby, the plot of the season would fall apart. Thatâs not something you can say for s5 and preventing the Apocalypse, just sayinâ.
It wouldnâtâve been that hard to expand Megâs, Annaâs or the Harvelleâs part (they had good material to go there -Meg as the faithful possibly opening her eyes, Anna as the betrayed and the juror jury and executioner, the Harvelles as normal hunters fighting something way too big for them-, but barely any time and like I said, no incidence in the actual plot of the season). Hell, Iâm biased but bringing back Ruby wouldâve at least taken care of the problem lol. Or if the show had indulged me and kept Bellamy Young as Lucifer, at least. But everyone with a real say in the plot is a dude, or at least wearing one as a vessel (angelâs conception of gender is clearly different from humans, but in terms of ~~representation the results are the same lbr).
-My constant frustrations with Supernaturalâs bigotry-related stuff lol, like I said, I really enjoyed the season (that combination is one of the most frustrating things about the show lmao). Especially Castielâs plot. The guy has reached Potential Hall of Faves status and thatâs hum. A Problem xD
But seriously, he was breaking my heart in all the best ways. His search for God (the Absent Father that the show specifically compared to John aĂąsldkfjasf. This show ISTG!!), his disappointment and sense of betrayal at being let down (he called God Himself ���son of a bitchâ!!!). I was especially fascinated by his Endverse version -that AU will have its own section lol-, although it resulted in making me reaaaally nervous whenever he was close to an addictive substance :). Like yes, those scenes were lowkey humourous and adorable (like when he drinks shots with the Harvelles and Ellen is fascinated and Jo delighted -... lowkey shipping this too btw. Lowkey shipping Castiel with lots of people-, or his combo with Sam when he got drunk), but also, you know, WORRYING xD
Some of my favourite scenes of his were, predictably, his interactions with Meg or Lucifer in 5x10. The Megstiel scene was SUPER HOT (both their voices are very unf-y lol), I canât wait to edit it. And having Lucifer call Castiel âa peculiar thingâ sure was something xD (although lbr, this Lucifer isnât keeping with his rebel angel reputation, Castiel is carrying that all by himself smh).
Another scene I couldnât get out of my head if I wanted to is when he uhhhh... completely LOSES IT and starts beating the crap out of Dean when he was ready to give it up to Michael. âI gave everything for you, and this is what you give me?!?â ooooooof. It was hard to watch, and fascinating and intense. I shamelessly loved it lmfao.
Though my favourite moment of his is one that can only be appreciated when you know certain things about s6. Itâs the scene where, unlike everyone else, he shows appreciation for Samâs plan of sacrificing himself to get rid of Lucifer. Because yes, at this point itâs the only thing that can save the world. But Castiel isnât saying, âSamâs life is a small price to pay in comparisonâ, because he will go into s6 and snatch Sam out of the cage immediately. s5 established Sam got out, so with that in mind, he didnât bring it up because he didnât want to create false hope in case he failed, but he backed the plan with the intention of saving Sam anyway. I love that. I love him.
-The entire season was Missing Ruby Hours for me lmfao. Like I said, some of the problems in the season wrt female characters wouldâve been at the very least lessened if sheâd gotten to be here wrecking havoc. But generally I just miss her and What Could Have Been with her here. I enjoyed some of the crumbs (Sam using the witchcraft skillz he learned from her! Sam immediately knowing Meg isnât Ruby, unlike Dean! Her knife! The ARCHANGEL GABRIEL referencing her as âthe demon Sam chose over his brotherâ!! The callbacks with Crowley or Brady!!), but I wouldâve wanted her here, dammit xD.
-Aaaaand weâre finally getting to Sam, who is without a doubt the star of the season, if you ask me. His plan at the end, to let Lucifer possess him in the hopes he can fight back for just long enough to overpower him and throw them both into the cage, with no hopes for himself? This is the kind of Big Damn Hero stunt Iâm a sucker for, I wonât lie. And I love that the show felt the need to confirm he was still alive at the end of the season hehe.
He really Went Through It this season and he held on lmfao. On top of everything (the apocalypse, the guilt of being its final trigger, the addiction recovery, etc.), he also had to deal with Deanâs usual bullshit, which is no small feat xDD. Like, sure, from an audience stand-point all those things are interesting (some fave/the fuck moments are when Dean is obviously peeved that Bobby still supports Sam because he wanted Bobby in HIS corner, or when he has the nerve to say he wants to say yes to Michael because he doesnât trust SAM not to say yes to Lucifer lmfaoooo), BUT ITâS STILL A FEAT XD
One note: for all the talk about bi!Dean, bi!Sam is so SEEN this season xDD. AFAIC he totally hooked up with that bartender Paul (RIP Paul. At least in your last moments you enjoyed Sam, whoâs clearly an energetic, attentive lover đ). And Crowley refers to Brady as Samâs demon ex-boyfriend and nobody bats and eye lmfao (that story is so angsty... the parallels to Ruby, how he ingratiated himself with Sam by pretending to have fallen off the wagon... ouch).
-I have mixed feelings on Crowley. On his own, I fell absolutely in love with the guy on his first appearance. A demon that DOUBTS Lucifer and doesnât kiss his ass?? That wants to get rid of him and do his own thing?? And clearly enjoys ~earthly pleasures to the fullest (his complains about how the other demons ate his tailor had me rolling laksjdfa)? The way he turned the tables on Brady? OFC I love him. OTOH boy, does it annoy me knowing that fandom GLADLY embraced him when they condemned characters like Bela or Ruby for similar things. Itâs not his fault so I still like him (heâs like Gabriel in that sense), but itâs annoying!
It also annoys me how Dean Must Be Right All The Time syndrome interacts with him lol. This season Dean decides they can trust Crowley (despite Crowley killing two humans in front of him and getting him beat up by Brady lol), so they can. Next season he decides they canât, so Castiel will be WrongTM because Dean Says So. Ugggggh xD
-To be fair, however, this season has my fave Dean so far LOL. In the love/hate scale, this one has been almost solely in camp love, barring some of those moments of irksome hypocrisy that heâs so prone to xD.
But there was something about how this seasonâs plot chipped away at him, you know? For all the traits he has that drive me up the wall or unsettle me, I appreciate a lot of his personality because it makes him a unique and interesting character driving the narrative -his irreverence, his ability to think on the fly and get out of shitty situations, his disbelief. Seeing all of those things under siege this season made me hurt for him in a way I hadnât anticipated LOL. By the time he was ready to give in to Michael (and I love that what made him step away from that choice was Sam showing a trust in him he patently didnât deserve lbr), sometimes I felt terribly for the guy.
I also wonder if this season kind of marked like... the beginning of the end for him, narrative-wise? Making him Michaelâs vessel (his angel condom) is the kind of thing that turns him from subject into object, and that can doom characters ime. The fact that he ~resigns himself to Samâs death when his identity as a character came with being His Brotherâs Keeper is another slight.
-I continue having mixed feelings about Destiel too LMAO. Iâve decided Iâm just going to try to enjoy the good and interesting parts while I can, while trying not to think of future developments thatâll likely sour the ship for me lol.
Because in truth, yeah, I enjoy their interactions a lot here! The Endverse was particularly enjoyable for me (back to that in a moment), but the entire season had a lot of gems. That moment in the finale, when Dean is wounded on his knees after Sam sacrifices himself, and Castiel resurrects and heals him with a touch? And Dean is staring in awe and asks him if heâs become God?? Like wtf am I supposed to do with that. WHO SAYS THAT. XDD
-The Endverse. Omgggggggg. The Endverse. I doubt I can say anything about it that hasnât been said a thousand times, but seriously. I loooove it, all of it. My favourite was endverse!Castiel, ofc. The way he was in No Manâs Land, not an angel and not quite a human, his ways of trying to cope with that, how burned he was... I uncomfortably related to some of it too lmfao, but letâs not get into that xD.
Seeing both Deans interact was gr10 too. They really couldnât stand each other lmfao (do you understand me now Dean?? They actually reminded me of two OCs in an original WIP of mine that are in a similar situation -in this case itâs the future version purposefully traveling to the past though-, which made me even fonder of the AU). And the Destiel? *chefâs kiss*. The bitterness, like when Castiel laughs when present!Dean berates endverse!Dean about the tortures and then purposefully says âI like past youâ to hurt him asĂąldkfjasf. Or those looks when Dean returns to the past and tells Castiel to ânever changeâ dâaw.
I loved Lucifer!Sam in this episode too (and personally, I think in the finale Lucifer -and Michael- shouldâve changed his outfit too. Samâs clothes just donât get to The Devilâs levels, but that white suit was perfect). He was terrifying xD.
BTW: Iâve decided that, since we never see endverse!Castiel die, well. He didnât xD. I could see Lucifer keeping him alive and captive out of a sense of nostalgia, as Castiel is the only other thing close to a fellow angel left. Might even decide to return his powers with time, or to ~entice him with such an offer lol. And ofc I headcanon Sam is still inside, occasionally trying to fight. Cue in all the Castiel/Lucifer and Castiel/Sam fic ideas too (I have waaaaay too many of those for this mini-verse. Itâs very inspiring).
-Iâm still on the fence at Luciferâs motivations but I canât question how the family issues fit so, so well into this âverse. âFamily is hellâ is the showâs thesis, after all xD. IMO the angels in general donât feel like a family, theyâre a military body/cult lol, but the Archangels are another matter. I guess is the whole âonly four angels have seen God-slash-Dadâ thing, the rest were... well, the help, apparently.
But Lucifer, Michael, and Gabriel do feel like brothers when they interact (Iâm guessing here Gabriel is the Adam: discarded by the other two like nothing :)))). Raphael too, but since he doesnât interact with them... does he get to later? Or is he the odd one out? Did the others avoid him because he kept quoting Nietzsche at dinner?? LOL.
-There are no words to explain how terribly I feel for Adam. JFC that poor KID. Who was kind and helpful and intuitive, and only wanted his mother back and to help stop the end of the world. And that Sam and Dean will leave rotting in Hell for a millennia :))). Itâs kiiiiiiiiind of hard to do for your showâs âheroesâ when they do shit like that lmfao. Itâd be different if they never tried to make him feel heâs family, but Sam tried to convince him with the bs âbecause weâre bloodâ and they did a half-baked attempt at saving him from Zacharias, and then... yeah. At least he had Michael in the cage, but still.
-I was already spoiled of this, but the reveal that cupids made John and Mary fall in love is so chilling (good on Dean for punching that cupid asshole, btw). It puts what Mary says about John in flashbacks, about how much she loves him and how perfect he is, in such a terrifying light. And Iâm under the impression that the show didnât bother to deal with this properly when they resurrected Mary and just... I hate that tbh. Itâs a narrative choice that should have a huuuge impact, dammit.
-I kind of loved how bitter and angry Bobby was about (temporarily, thanks to Crowley, his new demon bf -watch out Rufus) ending up in a wheelchair. That there were no platitudes or false sentimentality and it just... was.
-The Harvellesâ had a good send off. I can respect Kripke for wanting his faves to go on his terms lol. Having Jo refuse Deanâs offer of a fuck on their possible last night on Earth with âI rather spent it with a little thing I have self-respectâ? Not because she doesnât have feelings for him, but because she thinks she deserves better from him? I love it. This guy knows his pettiness xD
-The fact that this fandom seems to have ignored Gabriel x Kali is one of the reasons Iâm never going to vibe with it, sns. Immortal exes? Check. She tricked him and killed him... but then it turns out HE tricked and heâs alive? Check. BUT THEN HE STILL GOES BACK AND SAVES HER, DYING BY HIS BROTHERâS HAND?? CHECK CHECK CHECK. Ugh, why canât they come back to me. I know, I know, Kali is a WoC and those are only allowed one (1) appearance before theyâre killed off, apparently. So it might be a good thing that she doesnât return xD. But gosh, they were gr10.
-Death the Horsemanâs intro cleared my skin. I love him. I love how utterly terrifying he is and how chilling his and Deanâs scene was. And I yearn to find a picture of the guy a little younger and with a goatee, because heâs the most perfect Discworldâs Vetinari fancast Iâve ever found xDD
-Iâve seen tons of commentary over the years, and especially lately for obvious reasons, about how this season finale wouldâve been a much better ending for the show. Iâm not there yet, and it does sound like the finale was a mess and this oneâs was a very well constructed episode (and, ofc, the Final Love Interest was NOT blurry!!). But even if by the end I come to loathe the finale, thereâs one reason I already know wonât let me agree on the s5 ending being perfect: God xDD
The episode makes Chuck come across as a ~benevolent figure and no, fuck that, do NOT want, take it away from me!! Give me God as the Big Bad Wolf, the last evil to conquer any day. Itâs like Dumbledore all over again: I enjoy the character a lot more if I feel canon and I are on the same page wrt his shadiness xDD
#talking to the void#my thoughts#supernatural#spn thoughts#spn s5#castiel#destiel#sastiel#dean winchester#sam winchester#bobby singer#spnruby#spn crowley#spn lucifer#gabriel x kali#adam milligan#jo harvelle#mary winchester#chuck shurley#the endverse
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