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toasteloo · 1 month ago
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words cant describe how happy i am with this
looking at you FORD for bringing that stupid electric mustang and ruining the mustang name :(
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graceful-defender-of-paris · 5 years ago
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https://archiveofourown.org/works/20115370
Sorry for the late reply!
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If you had asked Sansa a month ago or even five minutes ago what she thought about Theon she would have said he was like a piece of furniture, he was always around the Stark household.
He had always been Theon her brothers best friend. Theon who was her brother in all but name if Robb had his way, he was an honorary member of the Starks.
So why was it that after being dragged along by the rest of the family to Theon's swimming gala. So she of course was disgruntled because she had planned to visit Margaery to watch ‘Love Islands’. each year they took attractive singles from all over Westeros and put them on an island, the year before they were in the Arbor but this year they were on Dragonstone, it was so exciting! Especially since Margaery's brother Garlan was on so it was basically her civic duty to watch it and support her friend's brother.
But, instead, she was watching Theon. In his swim shorts, that showed off his surprisingly toned body with a chiselled abdomen that the droplets of water cascaded so attractively down, as he pulled himself out of the water, her eyes were drawn to his muscled biceps that glowed as though sun-kissed in the fluorescent lighting of the Winterfell leisure centres swimming pool.
Oh, gods, she might have a crush on Theon.
This was TERRIBLE! No no no this cannot happen , she absolutely cannot like Theon because he is much older (a year above her) , he is a notorious womaniser and worst of all he definitely sees her as his little sister.
So, all in all, she was definitely screwed.
There was no way she could ever look Theon in the eye again, let alone be in a room with him so obviously, her best option now was to run away and join the silent sisters.
Yeah, that could work.
They were going to arrive home late-probably after midnight so she would have to watch Love Island on catch up at home. After Winterfell academy swim team won they were all invited for a celebratory meal where Sansa found herself increasingly panicked at the realisation that Theon was not just hot but extremely hot.
So she did what any normal person would do. She panic texted her best friend Margaery.
[Sansie]
Okay so
Has Theon suddenly become hot or have I been blind my entire life?
[Margie]
You’re only just realising??
If I wasn't having my world rocked by your stupidly hot brother I'd jump on that
Also, have you realised that you are in love with him yet?
[Sansie]
please don't use 'world rocked' and 'hot brother' in the same sentence ever again
AND I AM NOT
[Margie]
Sure San

[Sansie]
I mean it!
It's just that
Did I blackout for ten years or something cause I swear he was Robb's annoying best friend yesterday but now he's all attractive and annoying and oh god's I like him don't I?
[Margaery]
Yep
Now go get him before anyone else does
Since there were so many of them the family had been split into their mum's people carrier and Robb's small Toyota Prius, unfortunately for her, she was in Robbs car, which also seated Theon. She was in the back in the middle seat squashed between Arya and Theon and wondering if her life could get any worse.
She was terrified to even check her phone in the case any more of Margaery's messages came through and he would see it- which had happened with Rickon earlier.
He kept making kissing noises at her and Theon and now she found herself here.
It was nearly impossible to ignore him now. All her senses were heightened when he was around and now all she wanted was a scented candle of him, How he managed to smell like the sea and Winterfell would forever elude her but gods it was intoxicating.
Arya had been giving her odd stares as though she had been acting weird- which given the situation was understandable but it was when Theon whispered close to her ear “are you okay Sans? You're not acting like yourself” that she really fell apart.
Turns out all it took was watching Theon get out of a swimming pool for her to question everything in her life and then some.
She squeaked out an affirmation that was supposed to mean “I am fine” but sounded more like a smothered cry for help. Which Theon took to mean “I'm cold” as he took off his jacket, put it around her and put his arm over her shoulder and snuggled her closer to him.
And to make it worse, she fell asleep.
“Sans”
Her pillow seemed to be wriggling so she held on to it tighter to keep it still
“Sans, c’mon you have to let me go now”
Why was her pillow trying to talk to her?
“hrmph”
She could hear a little some bickering that sounded like one of her brothers but she just wanted to go back to dreaming of a world where Theon didn't just see her as his little sister.
Ahh Theon
Unbeknownst to her, of course, was that she had just said this out loud in front of said object of desire
“Uhhh
 okay” her pillow seemed confused, “Sansa, Robbs about to drop me off at home, I'm just going to remove your arms from me so I can get out..”
Wait, what? Was she lying on Theon? Suddenly a rush of adrenaline shook her awake and she was keenly aware of how she was lying on top of Theon
She blearily tried to blink the sleep out of her eyes when she saw Theon's sea-green eyes staring intently at her, his mouth broke into a relieved smile and she fell deeper.
“You can keep my jacket, I know its cold, it's about a minute or two till Robb drops me off and I didn't want to have to wake you while everyone was watching” his eyes darted to Robb and Jon who were happily oblivious to the affairs of the back seat, and Arya who was texting away on her phone.
[Sansie]
Oh god it's so much worse I've gone completely 0-60 and now I can never show my face again
I slept on theon in the car
[margaery]
That's it?
No outburst of I love you?
boring
though if you were going to do a random declaration of love I would've liked to be there so I could do it justice in my maid of honour speech
[Sansie]
Let me live! ive only realised I liked him four hours
[Margie]
And he's liked you for at least the past four years
Honestly, I'll be dead before either of you make a move
I heard Jeyne has a thing for him, so really confess your undying love soon before we have to go on a ben & jerry's rom-com binge to mend your broken heart
[Sansie]
JEYNE?!?!
I'm so screwed :(
[margie]
You're using emojis
It's worse than I imagined
******
Its been three months since her startling realisation that she had a crush on theon and so far she had done absolutely nothing about it- not for Margaery's lack of trying.
“You know he likes you back” Margaery all but declared in the middle of the hallway on their way to geography- the one class she hated (she was failing at geography). What made that matter worse was that her teacher, Mr Luwin, had organised for Theon to tutor her for her upcoming exams.
Apparently, her teacher was out to get her as well.
“He doesn't! And I don't want to make things awkward for him and Robb. I also don't want to fail geography”
“c’mon! You cant say that you haven't loved every minute of your late-night study sessions” Margaery teases, Sansa could feel the blood rushing to her cheeks at the thought of Theon in his oversized hoodie and messy hair sitting at the desk in her bedroom.
“That's irrelevant.”
Margaery shot her an incredulous look and opened the door to their class, “you never know until you try and I have it on good authority that he would be very open to you advances” and gave Sansa a knowing wink before sitting at her desk.
Ugh, there was really no escaping it anymore was where Margaery would rest until she finally jumped the bones. And at the rate she was going she thought that theon probably would just be bones before she finally had the guts to tell him.
Thought of theon consumed her throughout geography and she found herself at a complete loss when she was called upon to answer in class.
“Miss Stark?, I asked you a question.”
She felt her heartbeat race as she stuttered out “um, could you repeat the question please?”
“How many islands make up the archipelago of the iron islands?” Mr Luwin repeated
She knew this one, Theon would always talk about his homeland and the way his eyes crinkled when gushing about the bracing wing and the waves crashed against the rocks had embedded itself in her mind “31 Sir”
“That's right Miss Stark” She let out a breath of relief, perhaps she might survive this after all.
****
She had taken Margaery’s advice to heart, so she had decided that tonight would be perfect. He was coming over for their study session and her parents and younger brothers would be away for Rickon’s Skagosi fighting tournament, Jon would be at his “nights watch” band practice and Margaery had promised her that she would keep Robb occupied.
She didn't want to know how , all Sansa knew was that she needed to do something now- or forever hold her peace.
Maybe that's a bit too much , she thought. No need to scare him senseless like “oh hello theon thank you for helping me study, by the way, let's get married”
‘Bzz’
‘Bzz’
her phone vibrated alerting her of incoming texts. She had been in the middle of getting ready- but not too ready for Theon's arrival and she rushed over to check her messages.
One was a snap from Margaery with her fingers crossed with “GOOD LUCK!” and “GET IT GIRL” splashed across it, the other was a message from theon.
[Theo]
Swim practice finished early so I’ll be there in ten
I'll lift some coffee on the way, your usual?
Oh no.
She was supposed to have at least another hour to prepare herself. She was supposed to be calm and collected not frazzled and panicked.
[Sans]
Sure :)
Crap she must sound like a prat.
She began pacing the house- her room couldn't contain her anxious energy and was midway through her second tour of the living room when Arya ambled in and said “could you please stop pacing! Just tell theon that you like him and be done with it” she had forgotten that Arya was home.
Spluttering she could barely form the words to try and denounce her claims when the doorbell rang.
Her eyes locked with Arya’s and it was a race to open the front door. Arya was using her training to vault over the sofa but Sansa’s determination drove her to push herself faster until she almost slid past the door entirely,
Her hair was a mess, Arya had just clung onto her jacket- which coincidentally was a leftover from theon when she had slept on him so long ago and opened the door. To a quite perplexed theon.
Her mothers teaching kicked in after the awkward pause since opening the door, she shook off Arya's grip and welcomed theon “Come on in!” in her best imitation of her mother's hostess voice.
Arya had other ideas, “Sansa likes you, you like Sansa. Can you two go off now and stop moping?” and pushed Sansa into Theon's arms before trudging up the stairs to her room to presumably notify the family group chat of this occurrence.
She thought Margaerys matchmaking was bad but now she was screwed.
No way to come back from this.
There was little that Sansa could really do about her predicament, Theon had dropped their coffees to catch her, “uh, hey sans” theon appeared confused as she looked up at him and then a mischevious glint appeared in his eyes and he teased “so you falling for me?”
She felt embarrassment take over as her worst fears were realised.
Pulling herself up with as much dignity is possible she turned to theon to say “There's no need to make fun of me if you don't like me that's fine and I can study just fine on my own” and made to close the front door on him.
Mother would baulk at her for such rude behaviour.
Before the door could close theon had stuck his foot in the gap preventing her from pushing him out, “Sansa,” her heart sunk further theon never used her full name. “Do you want to maybe get coffee?”
She nods tentatively in response.
Theon smiled in relief and he offered her his arm- if Margaery was here she would say his arm.
The remnants of their spilt coffee lay at their feet but maybe this was her chance, maybe he does like her.
As he opened the car door for her he bashfully asked “Was, was what Arya said true? Because, uh
 if it was I would say that feel the same way about you.” she leant against his car stumped at his revelation. Sansa struggled to find the words to say to him and her eyes became drawn to his lips before dragging them back to the ocean pools that were his eyes.
So, instead, she pulled him in closer to her and placed a quick, barely-a-kiss on his lips.
He murmured “Do you have a map? Cause I got lost in your eyes”
Idiot she thought but still found herself giggling at it.
He held her closer to deepen their kiss and she could feel his smile that threatened to break out.
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engineofficia · 5 years ago
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2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Specs, Price, Release Date
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2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Specs, Price, Release Date - Today we're gonna talk about this 2021 BMW M4 CS coupe. So Before we jump into all the specifications for the M4 CS, this vehicle is a more hardcore version comparing it to the standard BMW M4. and if we go ahead and take a first look at it, this entire hood is actually finished off in carbon fiber. Entirely constructed of carbon fiber and it literally weighs nothing one finger, you can easily open and close it. There is literally no way to it. This car has a lot of carbon fiber all around, and a lot of different performance features comparing it to the standard car. This Article Is Just A Rumor
2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Changes
Exterior Design The overall length is 184 and a half inches with a wheelbase at 110 points 7. the width is seventy-three points six inches with a height of 54 points eight and the ground clearance is four point seven inches. the 2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe has ventilated and drilled rotors in all four corners measuring fifteen inches upfront with a four-piston brake caliper. The rear rotors come in at fourteen point six inches with a two-piston caliper. And this particular spec has a staggered set of wheels measuring 19 inches upfront and 20s in the rears. They're finished off in a satin gray with a split 5 spoke design, and they also featured the M logo on them all wrapped in a Michelin performance tire. The M4 has a lot of aggression upfront with many lines and angles. It also has a lot of openings for maximum cooling to the engine. This particular spec features a gloss-black kidney-shaped grille with vertical slots in the center. With have the M4 logo over on the right side, this spec also features a carbon fiber lower front splitter. There are also four parking sensors upfront, a lot of openings in the lower side of the front bumper with fins on each side. Coming up top, this has BMWs LED headlights with LED daytime running lights. And those flow nicely around the front bumper to give it an aggressive look. Then the hood has some nice contours in it with a functional heat extraction vent right in the center. Also then a raised portion in the center of the hood to indicate where the engine is mounted.
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2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Exterior And then moving to the side of the M4, there's a functional air vent behind the front wheels that allow airflow to escape the front wheel wells. And then you'll notice a prominent body line going around that cutting its way all the way to the rear taillights of the car. This has body-color door handles as well as body-color side mirror caps with the integrated LED turn signals in them. And the more gloss black trim finds its way all around the windows. And the overall side profile of the M4 has a very proportional and sporty look, I love all the sharp lines. The bulging fender arches in the front and the rear and in contrast against the red and the gray wheels have a really cool look. This M4 also features the carbon fiber roof that actually lowers the center of gravity of the vehicle by a few inches, has a really good look against the car, adding to the theme of performance and lightweight. And then making our way to the rear, this has oh le detail lights that have a nice look, a lot of cool contours in them. We have a carbon fiber lip spoiler to match the front splitter, the M4 CS badge, and then the backup camera is located in the center. We have four parking sensors in the rear and more carbon fiber on the lower diffuser, even with some fins in it. And then you get your chrome quad-tip dual exhaust system with the M logo laser etched into the top of it. And the whole rear end heists the design together to give the M4 a great look. So there's a good look at the overall exterior as well as some of the performance specifications on the BMW M4 CS. Interior Design This car has a lot of black leather and Alcantara all throughout it. And taking a look at the door panel, this features black leather along the top of its very soft feeling has a premium look. We also have black stitching on it, and then we have a strap right here to close the door with the BMW colors. We have your aluminum release hammer right here, and then your window controls as well as mirror and the power sunshade. You'll notice some lightweight designs for this door panel. We have an Alcantara armrest right here with a little bit of padding on it. And then this is a completely composite door panel, very cool to see on a car like this just for lighter weight and a more performance feeling. And we have the aluminum door sill with 2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe, this does feature power seats. All the controls are on the side, as well as the memory seat functions. And then on the seats, we have black leather along the sides with black Alcantara within the centers. And then you get the really cool design here. This actually cuts into the back of the seats, which is very nice to see. And then we have a perforated design in the center with a really nice look. You can see all the stitching and contours within the seat. Taking a look at the gauge cluster, we have the tach over on the right side as well as your temperature. Your speedometer on the left with your gas. And one thing very cool with the heads-up display if you hit the m1 button, it'll come upon the heads-up display with a performance looking tach. Going across the entire screen with your speedometer on that as well. And then going back into the normal mode that giant tech goes away.
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2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Interior On the left side of the steering wheel, we have cruise control settings as well as two different M mode preset buttons. We have all the voice commands and Bluetooth and audio control over on the right. This does have steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters, they have a really nice feeling to them, and they're quite large. And then the stock on the left side tapping the BC button that'll go through different trip information within the gauges. You can see your speedometer, the date and time, and then different trip information, as well as temperatures, and then your wipers are on the right side. Sitting back here, you actually have a ton of space, I do have the driver's seat set to my height 5 foot 11. and I have a few inches of knee room, which is very impressive, and my feet fit very nice and comfortably. That composite paneling continues in the rear, very nice to see that. You have the same Alcantara for the armrests. And for being a little bit of a stripped out version is the 2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe. This is a lighter way more design for the track. You still get a lot of really nice creature comforts black leather on the top here. And a huge window right here to make it actually pretty open sitting back here. The Headroom, my head is barely touching the ceilings and not too bad for a car like this.
2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Engine
Underneath the hood, this features a three-liter inline 6-cylinder twin-turbocharged engine. The cs pumps out 454 horsepower and 442 pound-feet of torque. The engine is paired to a 7-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission and sends the power to the rear wheels. And with a curb weight coming in around 3,600 pounds. you're looking at a 0-60 time at 3.7 seconds with a quarter-mile at 12 seconds flat at 121 miles an hour. Top speed at 174 miles an hour. And running off a 15 point 8-gallon fuel tank, you can expect to get 17 miles per gallon in the city and 23 out on the highway.
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2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Engine
2021 BMW M4 CS Coupe Price and Release Date
And the model that we're looking at today is finished off in Melbourne red metallic and has an MSRP at a hundred and six thousand dollars. Read the full article
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renaultamour · 6 years ago
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2018 Renault Captur Quick Spin
The road ahead is impossibly narrow, barely wider than our 2018 Renault Captur, yet it's actually a two-way road. Passing areas every 100 yards or so provide a haven when cars appear ahead. Preferably, that's with plenty of warning, but more often than not, it's all-of-a-sudden from around a blind dip or curve. Never has the posted speed limit seemed like such a prudent idea.
The thing is, the A861 on the Ardnamurchen peninsula in the western Scottish Highlands isn't some defunct logging road we've stumbled upon because of a faulty navigation system or overly ambitious wanderlust. Though the area is certainly populated by more sheep than people, it's far from the most remote place you'll find in Scotland. This is a road that's actually necessary for reaching a variety of villages and seemingly well-travelled, most notably by Ford Transits and other delivery vans that are without question the speed demons in these parts. The Royal Mail clearly prides itself on swift delivery.
Subcompact SUVs are marketed and genuinely best-suited to those who live in more densely populated urbanish areas, but out here, this one makes a ton of sense. Based on Renault's subcompact Clio hatchback, the Captur is 2 inches shorter in length than a Hyundai Kona but roughly equal in all other dimensions. It would be one of the smallest subcompact SUVs if it was sold in North America.
Those dimensions are ideal on such absurdly tight roads, while its elevated seating height — seemingly higher than most subcompact SUVs — is a big help on those aforementioned blind dips. Body roll is kept nicely in check around corners, and the steering — though numb — is precise, pleasantly weighted and clearly calibrated for drivers who prefer their cars to be more responsive. I legitimately enjoyed driving the Captur, which cannot be said for the majority of subcompact crossovers over here.
While subcompact crossovers aren't known for an abundance of power in America, they're all Top Fuel dragsters compared to the Captur, which comes with a turbocharged three-cylinder engine that can't even eek out a full liter of displacement. This 0.9-liter gasoline-powered wee-engine-that-could produces 90 horsepower and 103 pound-feet of torque, and returned a phenomenal as-tested 46.4 mpg (U.S.). On the other hand, Renault estimates it'll go from 0 to 60 mph in 13.4 seconds, which is about 3 seconds slower than the segment's slowest here in North America.
The thing is, though, it didn't feel that slow. It was genuinely surprising to read those figures after driving the Captur around Scotland for the better part of a day. Sure, merging onto the motorways outside Edinburgh required patience and a heavy foot, but around towns and when accelerating away from those A861 passing areas, it had the sort of low-end grunt that makes little turbo engines always seem quicker than they really are. Now, Renault does offer a diesel three-cylinder, also with 90 hp, but with a more robust 162 lb-ft of torque. One of those wasn't available at the Edinburgh Airport Hertz.
What was happily available, though, was something different than what I'd find in the United States, which is exactly what I was seeking to traverse the western Highlands' verdant glacial valleys and fjord-like lochs.
Introduced back in 2013 and mildly updated in 2017, the Captur is a sharp-looking little SUV that shows off much better when painted in one of its bright two-toned color schemes. Our all-silver version was comparatively dull, but despite its age and the fact it was one of the segment's earliest members, I'd venture that it's still better looking than the HR-V's, C-HR's and Traxes of this world.
The interior is a different story. I'd say it's aged poorly, but I remember 2013, and it wasn't like this. The Captur's ergonomically hapless cabin seems to have been designed by a car company whose designers hadn't actually sat in another brand's cars in decades. Take the cupholders. Crammed beside the emergency brake nearly on the floor, one is barely wide enough for a coffee cup and the other could maybe fit a Red Bull can if it wasn't so uselessly shallow. Oh but don't worry, there's another coffee cup one conveniently behind your hip that also serves the back seat.
Then there's the sole USB port, located above the touchscreen, and about 2 feet above the smartphone bin that's too small to hold a plugged-in iPhone 6. That touchscreen has no physical menu buttons and the volume is controlled by either a toggle button above the screen or a pod behind the right steering wheel spoke. The cruise control is activated by a button next to those cupholders, because why not? Je m'excuse, mais non?
Note, this isn't French wackiness like the Citroen DS having floor-mounted buttons instead of pedals, or the entire Citroen Cactus. This is Renault clearly not knowing or caring about sensible industry norms. Frankly, that's surprising given the company's corporate ties to Nissan.
Space and comfort are much better. At 6-foot-3, I rarely fit comfortably in the segment's crossovers, but despite its manually adjustable seats, I managed to be quite comfortable for hundreds of miles. The seats are mounted quite high, too, which is not only good for visibility but it provides ample leg room/support front and back.
Distinctively for the segment, the Captur's 60/40-split back seat also slides forward to free up cargo room by either pulling bars under the seat or a unique single bar behind it in the trunk. Using this feature allowed us to fit two large, must-check suitcases without utilizing the under-floor storage area and therefore finding some place to store the rigid floor panel. It's the only thing in the Captur's cabin that competitors would be wise to copy.
Well, besides the manual transmission, which has to be the major reason a 90-horsepower three-banger felt sufficiently powerful. Sure, the throws are long. Yes, the shifter is placed too far forward. Of course, the right-hand-drive pedals are located too close to the center tunnel, and you bet, I could've bought some smaller, dainty shoes somewhere. But, if you have the chance to drive a car with a manual transmission in Britain, any car really, I highly recommend it.
Driving has become so easy, and if you love driving, adding the mental and physical exercise is perpetually rewarding. Shift with your left hand. Wring the necks of 90 French horses. Drive on the left side of the road. Brake hard for nine Scottish sheep in that road. Instinctively slam your right arm into the door in a futile attempt to downshift. It's a blast.
I can think of few better ways to spend a vacation.
Article source: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/28/2018-renault-captur-quick-spin-scotland/
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jesusvasser · 6 years ago
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2017 Honda Civic Type R Four Seasons Update
We should be talking about trimming out the aero and going for that one brain-out qualifying lap at Indianapolis, or maybe how it felt to be the youngest-ever CART Indy-car winner or one of the three drivers to win in their IndyCar debut. Maybe the satisfaction of backing up that early promise with four IndyCar championships, a win in the Indianapolis 500, two overall sports car wins in the Rolex 24 at Daytona—the list of accolades is stunning and still growing. There’s so much you could discuss when you have an exclusive audience with Scott Dixon.
That’s not the helmet famous to race fans, but Scott Dixon is as serious as always when it comes to driving quickly.
But none of that stuff is on the agenda. We’re at Willow Springs Raceway in California, shooting an “Ignition” episode with a Honda Civic Type R, and Dixon is our special guest. Within minutes the formalities are over and we’re talking about New Zealand and London, about our families, and, of course, about hooning around in front-wheel-drive cars of various flavors in our youth and learning about understeer and (more pertinently) lift-off oversteer the hard way. It’s great fun. Dixon is completely relaxed and in no hurry whatsoever to get the hell out of Rosamond, California, and back to his real life. This might be a PR obligation, but it doesn’t feel like it. He seems to be enjoying hanging out and giving the Type R a right old beating for the camera guys. My mission today is to get to know the car and to watch and learn. Any time you get to be in a car with one of the world’s best drivers is a rare privilege, and I intend to spend a lot of time just enjoying the experience and trying to absorb some of Dixon’s incredible talent via osmosis. Fat chance.
No easy production: Jethro Bovingdon and Scott Dixon ruminate on the Honda Civic Type R’s finer points during a break in the action.
Our radio crackles to life with a simple, “We’re ready. Aaaaand 
 action,” and Dixon rips through first and second as we approach Turn 3. This is the part of the day the director calls “corners.” Our crew moves from corner to corner, shooting every turn with three cameras and probably two or three times over. Fourteen turns make up the Streets of Willow, so the process is a bit long-winded. But it’s a huge amount of fun, and Dixon and the Civic get quicker and quicker every time we hear the “Action!” cue. It’s also incredibly tough on any car, yet the Type R seems almost impervious.
This Type R is identical in spec to the Automobile Four Seasons long-term loaner right down to the color, and the giant-killer reputation it’s forging is well deserved. The 2.0-liter turbo-four doesn’t zing with the top-end fury of an old VTEC engine, but it’s got so much midrange, not to mention there are still plenty of fireworks if you hang onto each gear until the redline. You certainly feel every bit of its 306 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. What’s better is that the Type R knows how to use it. There’s a mild bit of torque steer, but it adds to the sense of excitement; think of it as a trait rather than a fault. You never deviate off line. Rather, the car gently wanders just a degree or two around your chosen trajectory.
Understeer? Even on the track there’s not much to speak of, and the helical limited-slip differential is fantastic. If you’re too greedy on the way into a corner and find the front pushing, you need to fight your instinct to back off. Instead, do the opposite. Jump on the gas. The diff locks up, and the nose comes back into line.
Not that Dixon is ever too greedy on the way into the turns. His style is economical, laser-precise, and somehow effortless. He gets the Civic into turns quicker than I thought possible. The forces are brutal, but the inputs are silky, and he always manages the car’s mass beautifully. It barely seems to pitch or roll, and it’s obvious immediately that Dixon’s feel for the tires’ contact patches is uncanny. The best drivers seem to find grip where there should be none and create speed almost from thin air. Dixon does that. You might watch and understand the process he’s engaged in, but if you try to emulate it, you tend to descend into scrappy understeer or simply fly off the track. It’s at once impressive and depressing.
“I remember going up and up and thinking, ‘This is going to hurt.’”
Of course, I have to ask him: “So, erm, what about that crash, hey?” I try to sound casual, but obviously I’m a bit nervous about bringing it up. Cool as a cucumber, Dixon barely bats an eyelash. “Yeah, it was a big one,” he says. Seems he’s a master of understatement too.
Our ace contributing editor Jethro Bovingdon is also at the wheel of the shows “Ignition” and “Head 2 Head,” along with co-host Jonny Lieberman, exclusively on the Motor Trend channel at MotorTrend.com. There you can catch the episode with Scott Dixon and all of Jethro and Jonny’s other adventures with the newest and hottest cars on the market.
In case you haven’t seen it, Dixon had a monster shunt during the 2017 Indianapolis 500. Another driver, Jay Howard, ran wide and tagged the wall on the exit of Turn 1. With a broken front suspension, he had no control over his No. 77 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports Honda and veered back down the track toward the infield. Dixon was just exiting Turn 1 and had nowhere to go. His Chip Ganassi Honda launched over the back of Howard’s car, the flight turning the car hard left so Dixon was hurtling backward through the air toward the inner guardrail. At the last second the car flipped onto its side and impacted the top of a concrete barrier with the right-hand side of the carbon-fiber monocoque before spinning and tumbling back out toward the racetrack.
“I remember going up and up and thinking, ‘This is going to hurt,’” Dixon recalls. “Then I had the first big impact and thought, ‘I should be OK,’ but then it just went on and on.”
Observers held their collective breath when Scott Dixon took flight during ‹the 2017 Indianapolis 500. Upon landing, Dixon’s car’s impact with the Indy wall was violent, but the Honda-powered chassis protected its driver well.
As the whole watching world held its breath, the team would have been terrified, and God only knows how Dixon’s family coped in those split seconds. But he was just in the moment, figuring out if he was going to get out of this one without bad injuries. Somehow, miraculously, he did. But how do you deal with that sort of crash, mentally speaking? “It’s actually pretty easy,” Dixon says nonchalantly. “It’s worse if you have a big crash and it’s your fault. Maybe you don’t know why it happened. That’s tough. But you know what? I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s the risk we take, but it hasn’t played on my mind since. Not at all.”
And now he’s in a Civic Type R at Streets of Willow. Is he really having fun? “Ah mate, this is great,” Dixon says. “I’m lovin’ driving this thing. I can’t remember the last time I drove a front-wheel-drive car. Let me think, yeah, I’m pretty sure it was a Honda CRX. I think I was about 16 or 17. It’s been a while.” However long it’s been, Dixon’s muscle memory for front-wheel drivers seems well intact. “To be honest, this is nothing like those cars,” he adds. “Response is fantastic, the way you can arc the car around corners. What really surprises me is there’s no on-throttle understeer, or very little.”
Dixon trails the Type R into corners on the brakes, but the car’s tail doesn’t budge. I comment on how stable the rear end feels. “That’s one thing I remember from my teens,” he says with a smile. “But this doesn’t have the big, loose, high rear feeling of a front-drive car on trail brake. You can drive it in deep on the brakes. Back in my early teens, I was caught out a few times and maybe damaged a few cars. But this is rock solid.”
By now I know Dixon is my sort of guy. He drives cars for a living but also for fun, and it doesn’t matter if it’s a 700-hp single-seater doing 230 mph around Indy or a 306-hp, four-door hatchback tackling curves out in the desert. Even better, he sees the Civic’s manual gearbox as a source of joy rather than as tenths lost from a lap time. “Manual’s back, man! I swore as a teenager I’d never drive an automatic,” Dixon recalls. “It’s just so cool and takes me back to when I got into racing. Having that substance and that feel of being attached to this thing and shifting gears and even messing up, y’know?” You don’t have to convince me, brother. I’m a believer.
The crew is almost done, the Type R needs new tires, and there’s a light dusting of gravel where Dixon’s been cutting corners, using every inch of track and a few more. It’s been a blast.
Often these superstar drivers become almost faceless: just another list of stats and facts and numbers. But Dixon is a great guy: funny, relaxed, and full of wonderful stories. No ego, at least not in this setting, plenty of charm, and all smiles. And he’s a car enthusiast to the core. If I run into him again someday, somewhere, I probably won’t talk too much about his career and future aspirations. Sorry. But I bet we’ll chat about that day at Willow Springs in a Honda Civic Type R. Oh, and the Ford GT he couldn’t stop talking about. He should have that by now. Like I said, a proper car enthusiast. He’s won a few races in his time too.
Our 2017 Honda Civic Type R
MILES TO DATE 9,642 PRICE $34,775 ‹(base/as tested) ENGINE 2.0L turbo DOHC 16-valve I-4/306 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 295 lb-ft @ 2,500-4,000 rpm TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual LAYOUT 4-door, 4-passenger, front-engine, FWD hatchback EPA MILEAGE 22/28 mpg (city/hwy) L x W x H 179.4 x 73.9 x 56.5 in WHEELBASE 106.3 in WEIGHT 3,100 lb 0-60 MPH 5.4 sec TOP SPEED 168 mph
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2017 Honda Civic Type R Four Seasons Update
We should be talking about trimming out the aero and going for that one brain-out qualifying lap at Indianapolis, or maybe how it felt to be the youngest-ever CART Indy-car winner or one of the three drivers to win in their IndyCar debut. Maybe the satisfaction of backing up that early promise with four IndyCar championships, a win in the Indianapolis 500, two overall sports car wins in the Rolex 24 at Daytona—the list of accolades is stunning and still growing. There’s so much you could discuss when you have an exclusive audience with Scott Dixon.
That’s not the helmet famous to race fans, but Scott Dixon is as serious as always when it comes to driving quickly.
But none of that stuff is on the agenda. We’re at Willow Springs Raceway in California, shooting an “Ignition” episode with a Honda Civic Type R, and Dixon is our special guest. Within minutes the formalities are over and we’re talking about New Zealand and London, about our families, and, of course, about hooning around in front-wheel-drive cars of various flavors in our youth and learning about understeer and (more pertinently) lift-off oversteer the hard way. It’s great fun. Dixon is completely relaxed and in no hurry whatsoever to get the hell out of Rosamond, California, and back to his real life. This might be a PR obligation, but it doesn’t feel like it. He seems to be enjoying hanging out and giving the Type R a right old beating for the camera guys. My mission today is to get to know the car and to watch and learn. Any time you get to be in a car with one of the world’s best drivers is a rare privilege, and I intend to spend a lot of time just enjoying the experience and trying to absorb some of Dixon’s incredible talent via osmosis. Fat chance.
No easy production: Jethro Bovingdon and Scott Dixon ruminate on the Honda Civic Type R’s finer points during a break in the action.
Our radio crackles to life with a simple, “We’re ready. Aaaaand 
 action,” and Dixon rips through first and second as we approach Turn 3. This is the part of the day the director calls “corners.” Our crew moves from corner to corner, shooting every turn with three cameras and probably two or three times over. Fourteen turns make up the Streets of Willow, so the process is a bit long-winded. But it’s a huge amount of fun, and Dixon and the Civic get quicker and quicker every time we hear the “Action!” cue. It’s also incredibly tough on any car, yet the Type R seems almost impervious.
This Type R is identical in spec to the Automobile Four Seasons long-term loaner right down to the color, and the giant-killer reputation it’s forging is well deserved. The 2.0-liter turbo-four doesn’t zing with the top-end fury of an old VTEC engine, but it’s got so much midrange, not to mention there are still plenty of fireworks if you hang onto each gear until the redline. You certainly feel every bit of its 306 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. What’s better is that the Type R knows how to use it. There’s a mild bit of torque steer, but it adds to the sense of excitement; think of it as a trait rather than a fault. You never deviate off line. Rather, the car gently wanders just a degree or two around your chosen trajectory.
Understeer? Even on the track there’s not much to speak of, and the helical limited-slip differential is fantastic. If you’re too greedy on the way into a corner and find the front pushing, you need to fight your instinct to back off. Instead, do the opposite. Jump on the gas. The diff locks up, and the nose comes back into line.
Not that Dixon is ever too greedy on the way into the turns. His style is economical, laser-precise, and somehow effortless. He gets the Civic into turns quicker than I thought possible. The forces are brutal, but the inputs are silky, and he always manages the car’s mass beautifully. It barely seems to pitch or roll, and it’s obvious immediately that Dixon’s feel for the tires’ contact patches is uncanny. The best drivers seem to find grip where there should be none and create speed almost from thin air. Dixon does that. You might watch and understand the process he’s engaged in, but if you try to emulate it, you tend to descend into scrappy understeer or simply fly off the track. It’s at once impressive and depressing.
“I remember going up and up and thinking, ‘This is going to hurt.’”
Of course, I have to ask him: “So, erm, what about that crash, hey?” I try to sound casual, but obviously I’m a bit nervous about bringing it up. Cool as a cucumber, Dixon barely bats an eyelash. “Yeah, it was a big one,” he says. Seems he’s a master of understatement too.
Our ace contributing editor Jethro Bovingdon is also at the wheel of the shows “Ignition” and “Head 2 Head,” along with co-host Jonny Lieberman, exclusively on the Motor Trend channel at MotorTrend.com. There you can catch the episode with Scott Dixon and all of Jethro and Jonny’s other adventures with the newest and hottest cars on the market.
In case you haven’t seen it, Dixon had a monster shunt during the 2017 Indianapolis 500. Another driver, Jay Howard, ran wide and tagged the wall on the exit of Turn 1. With a broken front suspension, he had no control over his No. 77 Schmidt Peterson Motorsports Honda and veered back down the track toward the infield. Dixon was just exiting Turn 1 and had nowhere to go. His Chip Ganassi Honda launched over the back of Howard’s car, the flight turning the car hard left so Dixon was hurtling backward through the air toward the inner guardrail. At the last second the car flipped onto its side and impacted the top of a concrete barrier with the right-hand side of the carbon-fiber monocoque before spinning and tumbling back out toward the racetrack.
“I remember going up and up and thinking, ‘This is going to hurt,’” Dixon recalls. “Then I had the first big impact and thought, ‘I should be OK,’ but then it just went on and on.”
Observers held their collective breath when Scott Dixon took flight during ‹the 2017 Indianapolis 500. Upon landing, Dixon’s car’s impact with the Indy wall was violent, but the Honda-powered chassis protected its driver well.
As the whole watching world held its breath, the team would have been terrified, and God only knows how Dixon’s family coped in those split seconds. But he was just in the moment, figuring out if he was going to get out of this one without bad injuries. Somehow, miraculously, he did. But how do you deal with that sort of crash, mentally speaking? “It’s actually pretty easy,” Dixon says nonchalantly. “It’s worse if you have a big crash and it’s your fault. Maybe you don’t know why it happened. That’s tough. But you know what? I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s the risk we take, but it hasn’t played on my mind since. Not at all.”
And now he’s in a Civic Type R at Streets of Willow. Is he really having fun? “Ah mate, this is great,” Dixon says. “I’m lovin’ driving this thing. I can’t remember the last time I drove a front-wheel-drive car. Let me think, yeah, I’m pretty sure it was a Honda CRX. I think I was about 16 or 17. It’s been a while.” However long it’s been, Dixon’s muscle memory for front-wheel drivers seems well intact. “To be honest, this is nothing like those cars,” he adds. “Response is fantastic, the way you can arc the car around corners. What really surprises me is there’s no on-throttle understeer, or very little.”
Dixon trails the Type R into corners on the brakes, but the car’s tail doesn’t budge. I comment on how stable the rear end feels. “That’s one thing I remember from my teens,” he says with a smile. “But this doesn’t have the big, loose, high rear feeling of a front-drive car on trail brake. You can drive it in deep on the brakes. Back in my early teens, I was caught out a few times and maybe damaged a few cars. But this is rock solid.”
By now I know Dixon is my sort of guy. He drives cars for a living but also for fun, and it doesn’t matter if it’s a 700-hp single-seater doing 230 mph around Indy or a 306-hp, four-door hatchback tackling curves out in the desert. Even better, he sees the Civic’s manual gearbox as a source of joy rather than as tenths lost from a lap time. “Manual’s back, man! I swore as a teenager I’d never drive an automatic,” Dixon recalls. “It’s just so cool and takes me back to when I got into racing. Having that substance and that feel of being attached to this thing and shifting gears and even messing up, y’know?” You don’t have to convince me, brother. I’m a believer.
The crew is almost done, the Type R needs new tires, and there’s a light dusting of gravel where Dixon’s been cutting corners, using every inch of track and a few more. It’s been a blast.
Often these superstar drivers become almost faceless: just another list of stats and facts and numbers. But Dixon is a great guy: funny, relaxed, and full of wonderful stories. No ego, at least not in this setting, plenty of charm, and all smiles. And he’s a car enthusiast to the core. If I run into him again someday, somewhere, I probably won’t talk too much about his career and future aspirations. Sorry. But I bet we’ll chat about that day at Willow Springs in a Honda Civic Type R. Oh, and the Ford GT he couldn’t stop talking about. He should have that by now. Like I said, a proper car enthusiast. He’s won a few races in his time too.
Our 2017 Honda Civic Type R
MILES TO DATE 9,642 PRICE $34,775 ‹(base/as tested) ENGINE 2.0L turbo DOHC 16-valve I-4/306 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 295 lb-ft @ 2,500-4,000 rpm TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual LAYOUT 4-door, 4-passenger, front-engine, FWD hatchback EPA MILEAGE 22/28 mpg (city/hwy) L x W x H 179.4 x 73.9 x 56.5 in WHEELBASE 106.3 in WEIGHT 3,100 lb 0-60 MPH 5.4 sec TOP SPEED 168 mph
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Quick Take: 2018 Lexus GS 450h
It should have been so easy to trash the 2018 Lexus GS 450h. It hasn’t exactly been aging all that gracefully, soldiering along with minimal changes since the 2011 model year. As if to underscore that point, Lexus of Europe recently announced plans to drop it in favor the similarly sized ES. When a rear-drive, would be 5 Series-beater like the GS gets thrown over in favor of an up-market Toyota Avalon, that’s the definition of a bad sign.
But a funny thing happened during my time with the Lexus GS hybrid: I started to like it.
The powertrain of the GS 450h, which delivers 338 electrically-augmented horsepower to the rear wheels by way of a CVT, had me at first stomp. Lexus claims a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds, and it felt quicker than that. The power comes on with no delay and no fuss—as if it were being served up by a well-trained English butler.
With this much hustle on tap, I figured the Lexus Hybrid Synergy Drive system for the GS wouldn’t deliver in the fuel economy department; after all, doesn’t this car date from the time when hybrid drivelines gave you either power or fuel economy? With Toyota’s well-worn 3.5-liter V-6 at its heart, I expected the GS to skew towards the former. Nope. I didn’t put a lot of miles on the GS (this is a Quick Take, after all), but in a mix of traffic-choked L.A. commuting (where hybrids excel) and some late-night curvy-road hoonerism (where they don’t), plus some normal suburban and highway driving, the GS returned 30 mpg—just 1 mpg shy of its EPA combined estimate.
Surely, I thought, the GS will fall apart in the handling department. To be clear, not every luxury car needs to handle like a wannabe BMW. But if the cost of cosseting is inept handling, I heartily disapprove. Turns out the GS gave me little to disapprove of.
I headed out to one of my favorite local curvy roads, where I found the GS reacted to driver inputs with reasonable enthusiasm, and while its steering feedback is lacking (isn’t it always?), it tracked straight and true. The suspension kept body roll in check and the tires provided way more grip than I expected. But the real eye-opener was its composure—the GS resolutely refused to be thrown off its line, even when I sawed at the wheel like a six-year-old playing Mario Kart.
Don’t misconstrue my evaluation—a competently-driven Kia Stinger could wipe Mulholland Highway with the GS. But the Lexus didn’t embarrass itself, which is exactly what I was expecting it to do.
As I spent more time with the GS, I found lots of pleasant surprises. When you change from Eco to Sport mode, the hybrid’s blue “power meter” turns into a red tachometer. In these days of video-screen dashboards, this isn’t that big a deal—but the GS doesn’t have an LCD gauge panel. It changes by lighting up a different set of marks on the gauge, while the others go so dark as to disappear. Call me old-fashioned (senior editor Kirill Ougarov calls me worse on a fairly regular basis) but I think that’s pretty frackin’ cool. Ditto the digital temperature displays on the climate control panel, which scroll up and down like the numbers on an old gas pump. Crazy, daddy.
It would be easy to dismiss the interior of the GS as dated—mostly because it is—but the buttery leather and glossy wood trim still hold up and the stereo sounds pretty good. The back seat is reasonably roomy, too. In fact, the GS 450h is a pretty practical car, though the trunk, which is wide but not particularly long (oh, behave!), does look a bit like it’s been short-sheeted.
I do wish the dual-zone climate control had a few more buttons; synching the left and right temps requires going through the menus, which is a pain. That brings me to the dreaded Lexus Remote Touch system. The mouse-like controller is a nifty idea, but many of the things you’ll want to do are buried deep in a menu structure, and the controller requires your eyes to be on the screen rather than on the road where they belong. Years of writing about cars has given me a passing familiarity with many of the more complicated infotainment systems, but even after several go-rounds with it I still don’t feel comfortable using Remote Touch while driving.
And so went my brief test drive of the Lexus GS 450h: By the time I returned to the office to hand in the key, I was surprised to realize I’d grown quite fond of it. (Er, the Lexus, not the key.) Sure, the GS has its problems; what car doesn’t? Eight years on the market with only one half-hearted, spindly grilled facelift means Lexus isn’t giving it the love it deserves, and one can see the business case: Mid-size luxury yachts like the GS aren’t racking up the sales they used to.
The GS also faces some tough competition. Audi’s new-for-2019 A6 is a gem. The Mercedes E-Class goes from strength to strength, thanks to a full lineup that includes coupe, convertible, and hot-rod variants. The Jag XF has an elegance the GS can only faintly imitate. And a recent 1,500-mile road trip in our Four Seasons M550i has convinced this BMW skeptic of the merits of that car. When compared to any of these vehicles and given its advanced age and Euro-wannabe roots, the shortcomings of the GS become painfully obvious.
Still, the GS isn’t totally lost in this crowd. It’s comfortable and quiet, reasonably affordable compared to the Germans, fuel efficient, and built like the proverbial brick outhouse. The latter is nothing to sneeze at, as anyone who has had to foot the bills for long-term life support of a complex European luxury car will attest.
The Lexus GS should have been easy for me to dismiss, but it wasn’t. I might even recommend it to a friend, though I’d probably do it through a third party. I’m glad I drove the GS 450h, and I’d gladly drive it again, though I’d rather wait to get behind the wheel of the new one—that is if there is one.
2018 Lexus GS 450h Specifications
ON SALE Now PRICE $64,660/67665 (base/as tested) ENGINE 3.5L DOHC 24-valve V-6/286 hp @ 6,000 rpm, 257 lb-ft @ 4,500 rpm MOTOR Permanent magnet synchronous, 2x/180 hp, 197 hp COMBINED OUTPUT 338 hp BATTERY Ni-MH/650V, 6.5Ah, 41 kW TRANSMISSION Power-split-speed continuously variable LAYOUT 4-door, 5-passenger, front-engine, RWD sedan EPA MILEAGE 29/34 mpg (city/hwy) L x W x H 192.1 x 72.4 x 57.3 in WHEELBASE 112.2 in WEIGHT 4,112 lb 0-60 MPH 5.6 sec TOP SPEED 137 mph
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Hopefully I could be a secondary driver on the vehicle which may lower the price a bit
Best and cheap major health insurance?
Best and cheap major health insurance?
Is my car going to be declared a total loss by the insurance company?
About 2 weeks ago I was involved in a car Accident which was not my fault. The driver made a left turn and hit us while we were going through the intersection. Both airbags on our vehicle were deployed and there was damage to our driver side tire area. Our vehicle is a 2003 Dodge Neon and was in great condition before this. Here is a picture of it from the accident. http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5751/15662047433344321352910.jpg Are they going to declare this car a total loss? If so, how much do you think we will get?""
What health insurance is best and affordable for my wife?
We had a baby 3 months ago, but I am looking for health insurance that is good and affordable for my wife. Any suggestions?""
What are the best car insurance sites for a 17 year old male?
Im just looking what sort of prices id be looking at for insurance for small cars (1.0/1.1 engines) and cant get a quote under 3000. Who are the best insurance providers for recently passed 17 year olds?
Why is car insurance so high for a 30+ female with 10yrs ncd?
I'm just looking for a new/nearly new style Ford KA and looked at some insurance quotes and ive noticed that nothing comes in cheaper than 360. It's not what I'm driving as I've looked at smaller cars such as Peugeot 107's and Citroen C1's (both new and older cars). They all come out with nothing cheaper than 360! I had a brand new KA back in 2003 and that was only 260 for insurance (I do understand that insurance has gone up in 10 years!), but why cant I get anything cheaper? I'd see myself as a model driver as I've been driving for 11 years, never had an accident, never claimed on my insurance, never been booked or had any points and I'm now in the 'older' bracket! Please can someone explain, or reassure me that it's not just me this is happening to?""
Insurance for quad biking abroad?
I'm going on holiday in a couple if weeks and have already bought travel insurance that covers everything apart from the use if quad bikes. It's likely that me and my group will want to use them at some point, and I'm wondering if its possible to either buy insurance out there, or buy insurance online for quad bikes only. I don't want to buy a whole new insurance policy as this will cost another 20, and I am already covered for everything else. Thanks.""
How much is your monthly car note and how much is your insurance? How many months do you have to pay it off?
What do you drive and do you feel its worth it? I pay $271 on my note. My insurance is $138. I had 42 months on it. I drive a 2005 chevy cobalt. So far I guess it is worth it. Driving is very expensive.
Why is car insurance rates so high?
Why is car insurance rates so high?
""Can I get my car towed home, from a car lot without insurance? Or can I keep it there until I get insurance?""
Can I get my car towed home, from a car lot without insurance? Or can I keep it there until I get insurance?""
The Cheapest Car Insurance Company?
Hi im 20, i got a quote on a peugeot 205, m reg, 1.6, its around the 1,500 mark =O, anyone maybe can help""
How much did your car AND insurance cost?!?
I need to do an independent survey for my maths GCSE and i need to know how much your car cost and how much it cost to insure it. Need aout 50 answers overall. 30 at least. Please answer, thankyou!""
Best insurance companies for 17 year old passed my test!!?
ok ive pased my test a month on friday and i gettin a car this week and i need some insurance on the car obviiously lol, well basically whats the cheapest car insurance all you 17 year old have and who is it with, please :)""
How much coverage do you get with salvalge title car? And how much does insurance run with salvage title?
How much coverage do you get with salvalge title car? And how much does insurance run with salvage title?
What is the best place for an 18 year old to get health insurance?
My ex is dropping my daughter from his insurance because she is 18. To pick her up on my insurance would triple my premium, which is already outrageous. Is there a reasonable policy out there for a healthy 18 year old?""
Affordable car insurance company?
Hi, I am looking for an affordable car insurance company. Have searched one Elephant.com. Is it a good company? Anybody heard about them or any experience with them? Please share........""
How can my car insurance go up from 128$ to 178$?
My car is all paid off and has been since I bought it. But I don't know why it went up. I looked up other car quotes and there much higheer then what im paying now.
How much is car insurance for a 16 year old?
I am turning 16 next month. I'm getting my liscense then too. I'm a girl... Ahah. I've heard insurance is cheaper for females. I live in henderson, nevada (pretty much las vegas). And my first car is going to be a 1999 porsche 911 carrera. It's in mint condition also. My dad barely used it. I know it will be high-ish since it's a sports car :/ About how much would my insurance be on it a month? THAN YOU! <3""
Car insurance stuff i don't understand.?
Hello everyone, I am an international student who's been in the USA (Buffalo, NY) for the past 2 years working hard on my masters (i'm 25 now). I bought a POS Saturn last year for 2000 dollars and, well, for that i needed to get car insurance since it's mandatory in this country. Since i was from abroad and i had a learner's permit at the time, i had to get insurance with my international license. Progressive was my only choice so i paid around 700$ for 6 months. That's the rate I've been paying for the last year. Unfortunately, i just don't have the money anymore to pay 700 more dollars for the next 6 months. I tried different insurance companies but they are all around the same range. Apparently, i was stupid enough to not get a credit card as soon as i landed in this country. I was raised with the if you don't have money, don't spend it philosophy so i just used my debit card. This is the only reason that i can see for these absurd rates. Every single one of my friends ( all international students ) pay around 200-250/six months dollars for their pieces of crap cars. I just feel like i'm not being given a fair deal. Not having any credit might put a penalty on me, i understand somewhat how a capitalist mind works... let's say about 100-150 more dollars for 6 months, but a whopping 500 $ ? Don't you think it's kind of messed up that first of all it's mandatory, and then there's no baseline to at least make sure that noone gets ripped off. Is there any way that a person can inquire why he is being charged so much(instead of the bs the agents tell you i.e your area is bad etc.)? Or are you at the mercy of these people?""
Auto insurance and a cars value?
How do you find out how much your car is worth and what the insurance replacement value is?
BEST HEALTH INSURANCE FOR SICKLY...WITH A MINIMUM COLLEGE EDUCATION-?
22 y/o and have Cystic Fibrosis its a genetic disease (debilitating lung disease) Eventually kills you, supposedly by age 38 yeah yeah i know. right now i'm on Disability because i need Medicare and Medicaid to cover my expenses. And unable to work do to health conditions at the moment. BUT i want to work when i am able, and i do have my associates and want to obtain my bachelors degree. WHAT JOB (probably for the Union or Governemnt) can i get that has GOOD health Insurance that will not strain my health. ( I cannot work in medical field due too freq. lung infections) My Yearly Bills add up to at a minimun $50,000 and if i go in the hospital several times a year over $100,000.. also have monthly bills for antibiotics, and hospital and doctor visits, testing ECT. If i ever get or need a double lung transplant that costs over $500,000 and i need the medical to pay for it when that day arrives. I DO NOT want sympathy i need people to understand my condition and can point me in the right direction. I hate taking peoples hard earned cash, and i will not do it when i don't need to. I am not on my death bed yet and do not need to be on it the rest of my life.""
Why is car insurance so much money for seventeen year old males?
my daughters boyfreind has just passed his driving test, he has been quoted 5000 for his insurance by car insurers. is this true, or is it a joke.""
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
Do you need insurance if you are not going to drive the car?
For example if you had a parked car on the side of the road would you need it to be insured?? Because what would happen if your handbreak snapped and it rolled into another car? Who's insurance would cover it?
Can i find out someones car insurance company?
a lady hit my car back in march of this year. she agreed to pay for the damage but then moved out and skipped town. well the police finaly found her but the problem is i dont know her insurance company. i have her full name, and her vehicle vin number. i dont want to claim it on my insurance so my rates go up, thats nuts. so i need to find her insurance company so i can file it with hers! anyway i can do this?""
Advanced driving courses/car insurance?
Hi I am a 20 year old male, i passed 2 years ago, but since my dads insurance went up to 7000 with me as an additional driver both of us totally clean on a 1.4 astra i have been without my own transport as i had to be removed from the policy which is understandable. i've always been a sensible driver with 2 years no accidents or convictions but i have always been an additional driver to save costs on insurance but now the time has come to start building my no claims and i am struggling to find a car i can afford to insure. So long story short what i was wondering was could anybody please tell me of any advanced driving courses or any other ways to lower my insurance quotes and post links to them so i can find them easier. please help its becoming a real nightmare and i am sure if you can help me here you are helping thousands of other young drivers who are being punished because of muppets out there. Thanks for any help i would greatly appreciate it""
Should I contact my auto insurance company (accident was not my fault)?
Okay, my wife's car got stuck in the snow last week close to the subdivision. So I went out to get the car because she's not really good at driving in the snow, but I have ...show more""
Car insurance in America for non citizens on holiday?
I have a few questions about car insurance in America for non citizens. I am going to the USA this summer and will be driving alot.I have car insurance on my own car and have a full license and an international driving permit.Do i have to get insurance on the car in america or will my own insurance in ireland cover it or will i have to start another policy with an american company?Will this cost alot?My insurance here is not expensive and ive never been in an accident or made any claims.Is it possible to be put on my friends insurance as a driver and if so how much would this be cheaper then buying my own insurance?Any information would be great, i am very confused on the matter.""
How do the payment work if a bunch of people are being sued by a auto insurance company?
1 insurance company is suing another insurance company, and 6 people. If the 1 insurance company wins how do they split of the amount sued for? If they do at all... I need answers please""
What is the cost of car insurance with out drivers ed.?
I am an 18 year old girl, looking to get a small used car something like a older civic. What would the average monthly payment be. I live in NH and I have good grades, never been in ...show more""
Part-time job enough to pay car insurance?
Would a part-time job at a mall store or movie theatre pay enough to cover an 18-year-olds car insurance? How old are you and how much does your car insurance cost monthly?
Can anybody Reccomend a good online insurance company for a Cagiva Mito 125?
I have been looking around for a low insurance rate for my Cagiva Mito 125 Motorbike, does any Mito owners know of a good insurer for that bike and how much did you pay?""
Where can I find affordable Homeowners Insurance in South Florida?Mine filed for bankruptcy.Someone reputable?
Looking to find a reputable and affordable Homeowners Insurance Policy in South Florida. I dont have any claims pending and it seems that nobody is offering Homeowners in South Florida due to the hurricanes.I am covered until Dec 2006,then I need to find a new company as mine filed for bankruptcy.Thanks!!""
Car insurance? Audi a3? Finance?
I'm 17 and looking to pass my test by October when I will be 18. Now I went into an Audi garage and they said I could get a a3 on finance when I've passed my test and I'm 18. But I'm just wondering how much would the insurance be? Would they give me a deal or could it be cheaper on my dads? Thanks. Btw I've never had a car or insurance before
Car Insurance for youth?
What car insurance company is usually cheapest for a new driver with a car in the early 90's (1991 Grand Prix) for liablity only. I would go on with my parents but the company they have forces me to pay on every car they own and its just waaaay to much for me since im just starting out in the workforce
""Want car insurance on other person policy, how much?""
I want to be a named driver on someones policy, how much extra will it cost for 24 year old with provisional licence?? Vauxhall Corsa U Reg The main holder has been driving many years. Just want a rough idea..hope you can help""
Insurance for tuners ?
Getting a car soon and wanted to know how insurance works if you tune it uo...like say a geo tracker with an RB26DETT in it...yes i no its close to impossible...would they charge more or what....i no they dont cosmetically but like adding a turbo would they add to ur insurance??
Can you have more then 1 life insurance policy?
Can you have more then 1 life insurance policy?
How many cars can you have insurance on?
I have a permit, No drivers license the only way I will learn how to drive and get a license is if I buy my own car. My mother ( the asswhole ) has three cars already and uses her insurance.. is there a limit on how many cars your allowed to have insurance on?""
Licence wrong date when applying for insurance?
when you get a quote along the way it asks you to enter when you recieved your licence. what if i put 2-3 years old when in actual fact it is only 2 months old. Will the insurance company find out that i am not telling the truth or can i get away with it? Do they check my licence to see when i got it. thanks.
Why do insurance companies do a credit check. bad credit doesnt make you a bad driver and the same with good?
Why do insurance companies do a credit check. bad credit doesnt make you a bad driver and the same with good?
Car Insurance Payments?
Is the car insurance still in act even if I don't pay for it on the day the payment is due, or does the insurance stop and resume until I pay for it? And, if I don't pay the car insurance on time, will they charge me until I pay them?""
21stcentury insurance?
21stcentury insurance?
Can I get car insurance under my boyfriend's name even though the car is registered to me?
My car is registered under my name BUT i want put my boyfriend as the primary driver on the car insurance. He signed over the title to me because of some private reasons but even though legally its mine I still see it as his. Anyhow, can I put car insurance under his name even though the car is registered under my name?""
Cheap car insurance with DUI?
I'm really struggling to pay rent along with everything else, and now I have to pay car insurance or else my registration will be suspended. I can barely afford to buy food with my part time job and school. Is there a really cheap car insurance company that accept DUIs? I don't have bad credit and have ALWAYS paid my bills, I just need something relatively cheap or else I have no idea how I am going to stay under a roof with food. I live in northern California if that matters.""
What steps are needed to obtain a license to sale Insurance in the State of California?
I have a college degree, but just had a baby and I'm looking to obtain a license to sale Insurance for when my son gets older so I can have a flexible schedule. What is the process in the State of California to obtain a license to sale Insurance? (car insurance, business insurance, home insurance, etc.) Is there a seperate license for each kind of insurance? or does one license cover all of them? Also, what are the steps to obtain a license? Any information would be great! (also, how long is the process of obtaining a license?)""
What are my health insurance options as a student?
I'm 22 years old and a full-time student at a California State university. Last month and without warning, my dad cut me off of his company's insurance and is refusing to put me back on because he claims we have no relationship and he essentially wanted to be spiteful as he has done since my parents divorced. My question is this: Can he even legally do this? As a full-time student, isn't it my right to be covered by his insurance? I can't get any insurance through my mother as she is unemployed. Because I'm pulling 19 units at school, I can't take on a full-time job to get health insurance. So what are my options? Is there a way to force my dad to put me back under his plan? If not, what should I do? I'm confused and scared because just over a month ago, I had to go to the ER because I broke my nose. Two days later was when my dad cut my insurance. Now I don't even know if that ER visit was covered because he didn't warn me before he cut me off. If someone could please help me figure out what to do in this situation, I would be very grateful!""
What are full time jobs that have full health coverage?
I am looking for jobs that have full health coverage, being I have MS and need my medicine and could not afford it on a normal insurance, what are some jobs that have medical coverage?""
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
How do we get life insurance?
im 45 & my wife is 42 we have 2 kids one is 18 and one is 20 we never had life insurance before 1.how does it work? 2.is it expensive? 3. how much money can you get? 4. what company is the best to choose? 5. can we still get life insurance? please answer all my questions dont put stupid answers :)
Should I take a term insurance rather than home mortgage insurance?
Normally many banks want the home loan borrowers to take mortgage insurance. Here there are controversies since many suggest borrowers should take term insurance instead. But do term insurances always give better protection than term insurance? How does a mortgage insurance compare with term insurance in terms of premium amount, premium payment period, risk cover of death, disability, chronic disease, surrender value, survival benefits etc? Apparently the term insurances are cheaper but have to be paid for a much longer period than mortgage insurance (generally paid for about 1/3rd of loan period.) So which options is better? I would specifically like to know about such products available in India. Thanks.""
High risk auto insurance?
Guys, Please what is the Best Option Online for High risk auto insurance, i am looking for One Just In Case Thanks""
Insurance and Driver License MN?
I just started my policy with 21 insurance and I moved from home to my grandma to now to chaska. Which is closer for work. Im getting a new driver license. But I told the insurance company my old address since I didn't get the new card for driver license. Is this bad will my rate go up ? I told the insurance company I work 3 days a week and its 45 min one way. But now im closer to work.
How much will my insurance go up for a speeding ticket?
I got a speeding ticket in July going 100 mph in California. I live in AZ and was visiting when I got pulled over. I got a notice in the mail saying it's mandatory for me to appear in court. Does anyone know how much my insurance will go up? I'm 25 yrs old and this is my 2nd speeding ticket. The 1st one was in AZ and it doesn't show up on my record because I went to driving school.
Why is the US government forcing health insurance on me?
My hate for the US government is growing by the day.
Kit car insurance for new driver?
how insurance companies are looking at new drivers that are thinking of getting a kit car, is it based on value of the car or just what engine it has or what it was made from? what it be higher then standard insurance? thank you""
What is the best Pregnancy Insurance Available to a already expecting Mom w/no health coverage at the moment?
Health Insurance for Pregnant Women!
Insurance for a 2007 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V?
I've been wondering how much insurance would cost for a 2007 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V for a 16 year old as the main driver, but I don't want to send my information to an insurer for a quote and possibly get unwanted solicitaions from them. Does anyone have any idea? Oh, and would it be different for a 17 year old?""
Do you get your credit checked for car insurance quotes?
Do you get your credit checked for car insurance quotes?
Does taking driving classes cheapen the cost of driving insurance for new drivers?
I'm planning to get my driver license when I turn 18 which is in two months and I live in Massachusetts. The state law says that you don't have to take driving classes in order to get your driver license if you are over the age of 18 but I am taking in order for my driving insurance to be less. If so, do you save around 10-15% on driving insurance rate? And how long does this discount on this insurance last for drivers.""
Buying a car/insurance help?
I am 17, currently taking driving lessons and looking to buy a car. I wanted quite a big car, such as the Ford mavric as ones that i have found in my price range. However the insurance is huge for them type of cars. I was wondering if anyone could tell me quite big cars with cheap insurance Thanks""
I need some Insurance Help?
My father, just yesterday tried to commit suicide by slitting his wrist, luckily he had called the cops, but he also had to take an ambulance ride and another ambulance ride to the county hospital where he will be held for 72 hours. He does not have insurance due to his work laying him off, and him not being able to afford it. Is there any kind of insurance that will cover this kind stuff. He has been suffering from depression and high blood pressure for quite sometime, so I don't know if those are pre existing things that would stop insurance...but him and my mother cant afford this at all right now. They live in southern california, if anyone knows of some kind of insurance, please please respond!""
Can I get separate 6 month car insurance for 2 vehicles?
I live in Vermont want to drive ONLY my Kia Spectra May-October, and ONLY my Ford F150 from November-April. I want to save money by having an insurance policy that covers each car for these 6 month intervals vs. insuring both year-round. Do car insurance companies typically offer this kind of coverage? I would ask around, but the insurance companies are so aggressive I can NEVER call for a simple quote or answer without extreme sales pressure.""
How bad is insurance for a 17 year old with a stock 1979 datsun 280zx?
im buying my son a car soon and he found one stock average insurance cost? per month or annual
""Need cheap auto insurance, Arizona?""
only drive 2 miles a couple times a week, never had a accident or ticket; 63yrs old,Mesa,AZ""
Car insurance renewal - is it compulsory ?
I had accident earlier this year(few months ago) wasn't my fault and other side admitted it but they still haven't paid for damages so the case is still open. I have been told by my car insurance company that they don't know where is the problem but as final bill hasn't been paid as a result my car renewal will go up as my previous 4 years no claim will vanish for now. Apparently once the other side pays what they should then they reduce my monthly payments accordingly as they take no claims years(this is 5 th year into account.) My question is : 1. is this correct what I said so far(or been told) 2. Do I have to renew my car insurance which expired last week even if I don't drive my car which is safely parked on my driveway(off road) ? Can I pay later lets say next month ? this is due my finance difficulties and I hope that other side pays by then and so I pay much less insurance. Professional advice would be great ! Thanks for reading :-)
What are some cheap car insurance companies for young adults in Georgia?
I'm a 20 year old male currently shopping around for car insurance, but I can't seem to make a decision. I need the most inexpensive, but quality insurance possible. Do you guys know any companies that may be a little more generous to young adult drivers?""
Whats cheap car to insure and run?
ive been trying to find cheap cars to insure, and it comes up with 2010 models that the car costs 12,000 i want something old cheap reliable for fuel car cost and insurance, i dont really care what year but im guessing the older cars like 1980s will be cheaper""
How can I get some cheap/reasonable health insurance?
How can I get some cheap/reasonable health insurance?
Help plz car insurance in MD?
well i am 20 years old. i have been driving a car under my mother's insurance name for a while, the insurance told her that if i got an acident while driving that car the insurance will never cover any damage and they consider that as a crime so Is that a crime to drive a car which ur name is not in the insurance list? also ifu know which insurance company is the best for me to get my own insurance""
Cheapest way to get car insurance?
we know of a family that is going through tough times. Mom works 3 jobs, daughter (18 y.o. works 2 jobs and goes to school full time) while the dad has two DUIs on him. Of course the daughter can't get insurance(because its too expensive). Around $2k a year. Know of any other viable options?? Its in California. Thanks!""
Can you remove yourself from your parents' health insurance voluntarily?
I just would like to know. Is it possible? Thanks.
Car mod insurances?
does a body kit cost alot on your insurances.if you no what percentage it increces. thanks
What happens to money at the end of life insurance term?
As a young child and teen, I remember my mom saying on a few occasions that she bought term life insurance when I was a baby. It was a 30 year plan for 100,000. She said that the term would end when I turn 30 years old and if she doesn't die by the time it ends....then SHE would be able to collect on the plan (getting the 100k) Now, I am 30 years old..and want to by term life insurance so my child will be taken care of incase I die. I'm thinking off getting a 20 year term. MY QUESTION - is it so that in 20 years...if I don't die, then I will be able to collect all that money? I'm doing research on it and finding that with regular term life insurance, you don't get any money at the end of the term.....but I remember my mom saying different. What do you know about it? (it isn't possible to ask my mom about it)""
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
Oklahoma City Oklahoma Cheap car insurance quotes zip 73142
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100 Questions:
The all important question mark. 
For my first post I’ve spent some time questioning... There are oh,so many things I wonder about on a daily basis and I’ve compiled a list of 100 questions that have popped up during the past couple of days.
I present to you dear reader, straight from the deepest depths of my brain, the most important questions ever asked!
Let’s get started!
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Questions, line up!
1.Why does my hair continue trying to follow its dream of being an 80's rockstar?
2. Why are skeletons so interesting visually?
3. Why did people think the moon is made of cheese?
4. Why is the sound in a cinema so loud?
5. Why can't non-English music be more popular internationally?
6. Why do people wear sandles with socks?
7. What is my heritage?
8. How can it be so hard to choose a bias in BTS?
9. Why can't I help my fangirling?
10. Why does chocolate give me so much happiness?
11. How do the underside of my nails get so dirty?
12. Why can't the day have more hours?
13. Why are feather boa's so fabulous?
14. Why can't we buy breast binders in South Africa?
15. Why does it feel as if cats purposefully disobey you?
16. Why do people say 'love' so often?
17. Why do so many people like 'Game of Thrones'?
18. Who decided banana on a pizza was a delicious combination?
19. Why is Russia so enormous?
20. Why is there so little skimpy armor for male video game characters?
21. Why are some of the seats on a bus so low?
22. Will the Kingdom Hearts series ever make any sense?
23. Why am I always in the mood for KFC?
24.Does senpai notice me?
25. Why are the tar roads around plots and farms in such an awful condition?
26. Where is the love?
27. Why is a banana so delicious with peanut butter?
28. Why do animals have such strange and amusing names in Afrikaans?
29. Why is math so difficult?
30. Why is the cake a lie?
31. Why is internet data so expensive?
32. Why do attractive people look so good together?
33. How does G-Dragon still manage to look attractive in the clothes he wears?
34. Why doesn't my speaking filter work better?
35.Why is it so funny watching fat people fall?
36. Why can't you be easier to learn, German?
37.Why do so many people have so many children?
38.Why can't oppa notice me?
39.Why can't The Lover (2015) get a second season?
40. How do earphones get tangled so easily to such an extent?
41.Why is there something beautiful in conflict?
42. Are some cultures so complex because the people had nothing else to do?
43.Why do I get scared the most during non-horror movies?
44. Why do lovers call each other baby?
45. Why couldn't I have been born an elf?
46. What is swag?
47. Can Youtube stop taking up all my time?
48. Why do some trains come at the 0 minute mark and others leave?
49.Why are shopping baskets so inconvenient?
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Still with me? Sjoe, deep breaths, we’re halfway there.
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And~ Go!
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50. Why can't men wear short shorts more often?
51. Do taxi drivers get reincarnated as bad drivers with expensive cars?
52. Why are property sellers' advertisements so cringy?
53. Why would you name your kid in such a way that their name and surname start with the same letter?
54. Why do people like and want big boobs?
55. McFlurries vs. Krushers, which is better?
56. Why do I believe in Steve?
57. How does a gyroscope work?
58. Why does Jimin have no jams?
59. Why do we love people like jellylots?
60. Why can't people naturally have rainbow coloured hair?
61. Why can't hands have beards?
62. Why bae?
63. Why don't I look good in yellow?
64. Why can't we be chameleons?
65. Why do certain drugs make you look older?
66. What would happen if the whole world didn't have internet for a day?
67.Why don't we have more international channels on DSTV?
68. Why are English dubs mostly terrible?
69. Why are dreams so difficult to remember?
70. Why do people say new born babies are cute?
71. Why do I refer to Mickey as 'King Mickey'?
72. Why do I like the movie "Death becomes her" so much?
73. Is Jack Sparrow an idiot or just an incompetent genius?
74. Why do people want the opposite hair texture of what they have?
75. Why is the hula man on the board?
76. Why can't I lick my eyebrow?
77. Why can't I split?
78. Why does that cloud look like...?
79. Why don't we have tails?
80. How many colours are there?
81. What does Hello Kitty wine taste like?
82. How many kinda of fetishes are there?
83. Why do we procrastinate?
84. Why do some people bleed from their eyes?
85. Why do we fall in love with fictional characters?
86. Why so people enjoy cringe humour?
87. Why won't gravity leave me alone?
88. Why does my cat behave like a dog?
89. What is beauty?
90. Why do some people exist?
91. How many Youtube videos are there?
92. How many people actually follow the rules in the k53?
93. Why do we have necks?
94. Why do people use words like 'moobs', 'guyliner', 'manbags' etc.?
95. Why are leather jackets so cool?
96. Why do people watch the dog channel?
97. Why doesn't it rain marshmallows?
98. Who styles NCT and why are they still being allowed to?
99. How many grains of coffee is in a tea bag?
100. Can I get a little bit of hope?
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buildercar · 8 years ago
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Four Seasons 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE LUX Wrap-Up
When Land Rover called to schedule a pickup date our Four Seasons 2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport, it was hard to believe a year had passed since we took delivery of the little Disco. We’d eagerly anticipated its arrival, with excitement toward the possibilities for adventure the Land Rover’s off-road capability promised.
First impressions of Land Rover’s smallest offering were good. Virtually the entire staff was a fan of the sharp, contemporary exterior styling with its distinctive LED headlights and bold-yet-elegant lines. The Discovery was a perfect fit in Los Angeles traffic, and it garnered more than its share of attention on freeways, in parking lots, and at trailheads. Our creative director Darren Scott, a man who knows a thing or two about aesthetics, went so far as to scribble the following in the logbook: “Its appearance of strength infects the owner and is lusted after on the sidewalk. Styling separates this vehicle on the street from all competitors.”
The cabin impressed us less and less, a feeling echoed by guests who rode in the Disco. Inexpensive, drab looking plastics cover many surfaces, most notably the center stack, and easily identify the Discovery Sport as Land Rover’s budget model. That said, the leather seats wore well despite several off-road adventures and remained looking nearly new by the end of our yearlong term.
Yes, that’s a Porsche towing our stuck Land Rover out of the mud.
Another misgiving about the cabin was the infotainment display, which suffered from laggy response times, dated graphics, questionable navigation software, and occasional system crashes. AUTOMOBILE graphic designer Michael Cruz-Garcia took the car on a road trip to Arizona and noted: “It is better to use Google maps through your phone app rather than try to find your destination in the navigation.” To be fair, Land Rover optionally offers Jaguar Land Rover’s latest 10.2-inch InControl Touch Pro screen on 2017 models, with an updated processor and improved functionality.
Nevertheless, the Discovery became a go-to vehicle and rarely spent a night alone in our garage. Just a month into its stay, senior copy editor Kara Snow took it on a local camping trip. How’d it go? “With most of my fellow campers arriving on vintage motorcycles with tents strapped to rear racks, I got a few snarky comments about my first attempt at glamping,” Snow commented in the notebook. “Those jeers turned to cheers when I opened the back hatch — actually, it opened on its own with the push of a key-fob button — and revealed a fully stocked bar and a cooler full of ice. Also easily stored was a six-person tent, a queen-sized air mattress, a duvet, pillows, and a giant can of extra-strength mosquito repellent.”
Indeed, the Discovery proved to be a spacious, practical gear hauler, but over the course of several mini roadtrips, we learned more about its personality — specifically how it acquits itself on the road for long distances. Road test editor Eric Weiner loaded it up with gear and a companion for a couple days on the road between L.A. and New Mexico. “I think the car handles and steers very well, especially for being so large,” he said. “The engine is also plenty torquey, although it peters out severely at high rpms.” To the Discovery’s credit, engineers tuned the engine for low-rpm grunt, of which it has plenty. And the Discovery Sport averaged 22.1 mpg for the year — right in line with its EPA fuel-economy ratings.
The Land Rover made us feel good when we drove it, knowing that despite its flaws, we were driving one of the more interesting vehicles built today.
Still, the loudest and most frequent complaint about the Discovery stemmed from its nine-speed ZF automatic transmission. Again, this is likely to be a tuning issue; the transmission is set up to deliver solid fuel economy and is happy to pull along in ninth gear on the freeway at very low rpm, but in turn it is reluctant to downshift when called on to pass slower traffic or make quicker progress up a hill. Said Weiner: “Most shifts are smooth as long as you don’t need to do anything suddenly. This gearbox just really struggles with anything outside of calm, normal driving behavior.” Coupled with a hint of turbo lag, asking the Discovery to make split-second maneuvers was an exercise in frustration. Even Scott, one of the Disco’s biggest proponents, was compelled to jot, “I love this car. I find it difficult to say the transmission is flawed. But it bogs badly when slowing in corners and is indecisive in gear selection accelerating out, leaving long holes in the drive.”
The rotary gear controller is a Jaguar Land Rover signature. The cabin is roomy but inexpensive looking.
And then there’s the issue of the Discovery’s actual off-road ability. Senior editor Chris Nelson and several other staffers brought it along as a support vehicle to a three-way SUV comparison test. When the going got rugged, our long-termer was the only vehicle in the group that ultimately had to be abandoned on a muddy trail in Utah. In fact, mud and muck tore off the Disco’s wheel-well fairings and caused it to throw an engine code, so it was towed more than 1,000 miles to a Las Vegas Land Rover dealership for repairs. It returned to our garage a week later, fully operational and miraculously clean. “I have not one, not two, but three reasons to believe the Discovery is nothing but a cushy and complacent crossover that should never go near a dirt road,” a frustrated Nelson wrote of the ordeal. That might be a bit strong, born of the incident fresh in his mind, but a Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, and BMW all made it out of the same muck the Discovery found itself in. When Land Rover bases its brand image on (and charges a premium for) rugged, off-road ability, that’s a problem.
Besides that service visit, the Discovery went in twice more to address service campaigns with the license plate lights and powertrain control module, along with a scheduled service at 13,000 miles. The service dinged our credit card $493.07 for an oil change, cabin air filter, four-wheel alignment, and general inspection. While the vehicle was in the shop for its service, we mentioned our reservations about the transmission’s lethargic behavior, but the dealer’s investigation found everything working as it should. A cover over the windshield-washer fluid reservoir was replaced at no cost, a nice gesture.
Our Discovery Sport made itself right at home in chic L.A. with its knockout looks.
None of this is to say we had a dreadful year with the car. In fact, the Discovery racked up a lot of miles — 22,093 — a good amount for a Four Seasons vehicle, a result of the demand it drew from staffers. It was a go-to choice to shuttle friends, family, bicycles, and other gear. Moreover, the Land Rover made us feel good when we drove it, knowing that despite its flaws, we were driving one of the more interesting vehicles built today. Like a suave James Bond fumbling to get his gun out of its holster, our Discovery Sport was flawed, but oh so charismatic.
Pros & Cons
+ Smart, distinctive styling + Roomy interior + Turns heads – Lethargic transmission – Laggy, erratic infotainment system – Disappointing interior materials
2016 Land Rover Discovery Sport HSE LUX Running Costs
Mileage
22,093 miles Warranty 4-yr/50,000-mi bumper-to-bumper 4-yr/50,000-mi powertrain 4-yr/50,000-mi roadside assistance 6-yr/unlimited mileage corrosion perforation Scheduled Maintenance 13,000 mi: Engine oil/filter change, cabin pollen filter, inspection, $318.07 Warranty Repairs None Recalls Powertrain control module software update, license plate lights Out-Of-Pocket 5,200 mi: Two new splash shields, rear molding trim $0 13,000 mi: Four-wheel alignment $175.00 Fuel Consumption: EPA city/highway/combined: 20/26/22 mpg Observed: 22.1 mpg Cost Per Mile Fuel, service: $0.16 ($1.47 including depreciation) Trade-In Value $39,300 *Estimate based on information from Intellichoice
Our Test Results 0–60 mph 7.4 sec 60-0 mph 120 ft 1/4–mile 15.8 sec @ 86.7 mph Skidpad 0.80 g
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roadfly · 8 years ago
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A stylish truck is one thing, but having one that meets all of your needs and provides equal doses of comfort, practicality and reliability is a huge win! That’s exactly where the 2017 Honda Ridgeline lifestyle pick-up truck comes into the picture. And, it’s all new for 2017, bringing in the next generation of styling and frame architecture.
Exterior Styling
The 2017 Honda Ridgeline is a smart looking truck and delivers on the style front just as well as it does on practicality. With a bold new front face, stylish headlamps and a unique design for the LED tail-lamp clusters, it has great road presence and looks very modern. The lines are simple but effective, giving it a no-nonsense stance and a rather beefy appearance. It looks modern and purposeful, with the 18-inch wheels looking right at home under the large and rather pronounced wheel-arches. The long truck bed has a two-way tail-gate and offers a generous payload capacity of 1584 pounds which is on par with it’s competitors. 
Interior Styling
Honda isn’t known to skimp on their interiors and the 2017 Honda Ridgeline is no exception. It offers one of the most well-put-together interiors in the segment and well a lot of space. Adding to the comfort is the tri-zone automatic climate control which also employs an air filtration system and humidity control. The RTS trim-level on the 2017 Ridgeline is a good value. The information console behind the steering wheel is a 4.2-inch color unit. It also offers several convenience features such as power door- and tail-gate locks, and power windows all round with an auto-up and down function for the front side windows.
The multi-way adjustable front seats in the new Ridgeline are large and comfortable. The rear seats are 60:40 split and even better accommodating of rear passengers as well as cargo in the under-seat storage area.
The 2017 Honda Ridgeline is offered with a 200W, 7-speaker audio system which also includes a subwoofer. A 5-inch color screen and a USB audio interface with an aux-input jack are standard, as is Bluetooth connectivity for hands-free communication and audio streaming. All things considered, it’s a pretty good daily driver.
Safety Features
Never known to compromise on safety, Honda offers standard Vehicle Stability Assist and Traction Control. Anti-lock brakes with EBD and Hill-start Assist are standard equipment as well. A multi-angle rear camera is a boon on pick-ups and the Ridgeline packs one with guidelines in the display. Oh, and there’s also a tire pressure monitor, because having the correct pressure in the tires at all times is very important.
Honda’s Advanced Compatibility Engineering delivers an ACE yet again with a strong, crash-energy absorbent body structure. Further passive safety features include dual front airbags, side airbags and a side curtain airbags that are equipped with a roll-over sensor. Child safety is also a high priority and the Ridgeline includes child-seat anchors all across the second row.
Powertrain, Drivetrain & Performance
At the heart of the all-new 2017 Honda Ridgeline is a refined 3.5L V6 that brings new fuel-saving technology. It features direct fuel injection, EcoAssist as well as variable cylinder management – where it can shut off cylinders when full power is not needed, for instance, while coasting on the highway. The changes not only make it more efficient, but it also means that it produces a higher peak output of 280 hp @ 6,000 RPM with a credible 262 lb-ft of peak torque available at 4,700 rpm. That means it is the most powerful version of the Ridgeline to go on sale thus far.
A 6-speed automatic transmission drives all four wheels. If you’re wondering about the option, yes, Honda does offer a front-wheel-drive version for $1,900 less, which is sufficient, really, for all-road and all-weather purposes. However, if you happen to live where it snows in the winter or frequently encounter rough terrain on your travel, we recommend that you stick with the 4WD version. Its variable torque management program delivers optimal traction in mud, sand and snow.
The Ridgeline offers 7.3 inches of ground clearance which is more than adequate if tackling some of the really rough stuff isn’t on your agenda. On the road, however, the 2017 Honda Ridgeline stands out with impeccable ride quality and commendable handling characteristics. It’s easy to drive and gives you the feeling of control. The all-wheel-drive model can tow up to 5,000 lbs, which isn’t as much as some competitors, but, all said and done, when these elements come together, they do make it a seriously capable truck and a comfortable daily-driver.
Warranty
Peace of mind is usually standard on any Honda and the 2017 Honda Ridgeline reinforces that belief with a 3-year/36,000-mile limited basic warranty and warranty on genuine accessories installed at time of purchase. You also get a 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain warranty and 5-year/unlimited-mileage corrosion warranty. Furthermore, you also benefit from a 3-year/36,000-mile 24×7 roadside assistance package on the purchase of any new Honda vehicle. 
The 2017 Honda Ridgeline makes an interesting addition to the mid-size truck segment. While it does offer a refined ride and handling package, its duty and load capabilities are a bit limited because of its 5,000-lb tow limit, low ride height and limits of articulation on the suspension. However, if general utility, comfort and refinement are a higher priority than tackling unruly terrain and hauling 15,000 pounds then the Ridgeline makes for a world of good.
2017 Honda Ridgeline Specs:
Specific Make/Model & Trim Package: 2017 Honda Ridgeline RTS AWD Automatic
Base Price for this model: $33,415
Body style: Pick-up truck, double cab
Engine & Torque: 3.5L V6, 280 hp @ 6,000 rpm, 262 lb-ft @ 4,700 rpm
Transmission: 6-speed, automatic, all-wheel-drive (available 2WD for -$1,900)
Curb weight: 4,431 lbs
Wheels & Tires sizes/specs: 18-inch, 245/60 R18 all-season tires
Warranty: 3-year/36,000-mile limited basic warranty and warranty on genuine accessories installed at time of purchase, 5-year/60,000-mile powertrain warranty, 5-year/unlimited-mile corrosion warranty; 3-year/36,000-mile 24×7 roadside assistance
Towing Capacity: 5,000 lbs, when appropriately equipped
Fuel economy EPA, City/Hwy MPG: 18 mpg City/25 mpg Hwy, 19.5 gallon fuel tank (19 mpg City/26 mpg Hwy for 2WD)
0-60 MPH, Quarter Mile: 6.6 seconds, quarter-mile time not available
Top Speed: 112 mph
        2017 Honda Ridgeline AWD Black Edition Road Test & Review A stylish truck is one thing, but having one that meets all of your needs and provides equal doses of comfort, practicality and reliability is a huge win!
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jesusvasser · 7 years ago
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Quick Take: 2018 Lexus GS 450h
It should have been so easy to trash the 2018 Lexus GS 450h. It hasn’t exactly been aging all that gracefully, soldiering along with minimal changes since the 2011 model year. As if to underscore that point, Lexus of Europe recently announced plans to drop it in favor the similarly sized ES. When a rear-drive, would be 5 Series-beater like the GS gets thrown over in favor of an up-market Toyota Avalon, that’s the definition of a bad sign.
But a funny thing happened during my time with the Lexus GS hybrid: I started to like it.
The powertrain of the GS 450h, which delivers 338 electrically-augmented horsepower to the rear wheels by way of a CVT, had me at first stomp. Lexus claims a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds, and it felt quicker than that. The power comes on with no delay and no fuss—as if it were being served up by a well-trained English butler.
With this much hustle on tap, I figured the Lexus Hybrid Synergy Drive system for the GS wouldn’t deliver in the fuel economy department; after all, doesn’t this car date from the time when hybrid drivelines gave you either power or fuel economy? With Toyota’s well-worn 3.5-liter V-6 at its heart, I expected the GS to skew towards the former. Nope. I didn’t put a lot of miles on the GS (this is a Quick Take, after all), but in a mix of traffic-choked L.A. commuting (where hybrids excel) and some late-night curvy-road hoonerism (where they don’t), plus some normal suburban and highway driving, the GS returned 30 mpg—just 1 mpg shy of its EPA combined estimate.
Surely, I thought, the GS will fall apart in the handling department. To be clear, not every luxury car needs to handle like a wannabe BMW. But if the cost of cosseting is inept handling, I heartily disapprove. Turns out the GS gave me little to disapprove of.
I headed out to one of my favorite local curvy roads, where I found the GS reacted to driver inputs with reasonable enthusiasm, and while its steering feedback is lacking (isn’t it always?), it tracked straight and true. The suspension kept body roll in check and the tires provided way more grip than I expected. But the real eye-opener was its composure—the GS resolutely refused to be thrown off its line, even when I sawed at the wheel like a six-year-old playing Mario Kart.
Don’t misconstrue my evaluation—a competently-driven Kia Stinger could wipe Mulholland Highway with the GS. But the Lexus didn’t embarrass itself, which is exactly what I was expecting it to do.
As I spent more time with the GS, I found lots of pleasant surprises. When you change from Eco to Sport mode, the hybrid’s blue “power meter” turns into a red tachometer. In these days of video-screen dashboards, this isn’t that big a deal—but the GS doesn’t have an LCD gauge panel. It changes by lighting up a different set of marks on the gauge, while the others go so dark as to disappear. Call me old-fashioned (senior editor Kirill Ougarov calls me worse on a fairly regular basis) but I think that’s pretty frackin’ cool. Ditto the digital temperature displays on the climate control panel, which scroll up and down like the numbers on an old gas pump. Crazy, daddy.
It would be easy to dismiss the interior of the GS as dated—mostly because it is—but the buttery leather and glossy wood trim still hold up and the stereo sounds pretty good. The back seat is reasonably roomy, too. In fact, the GS 450h is a pretty practical car, though the trunk, which is wide but not particularly long (oh, behave!), does look a bit like it’s been short-sheeted.
I do wish the dual-zone climate control had a few more buttons; synching the left and right temps requires going through the menus, which is a pain. That brings me to the dreaded Lexus Remote Touch system. The mouse-like controller is a nifty idea, but many of the things you’ll want to do are buried deep in a menu structure, and the controller requires your eyes to be on the screen rather than on the road where they belong. Years of writing about cars has given me a passing familiarity with many of the more complicated infotainment systems, but even after several go-rounds with it I still don’t feel comfortable using Remote Touch while driving.
And so went my brief test drive of the Lexus GS 450h: By the time I returned to the office to hand in the key, I was surprised to realize I’d grown quite fond of it. (Er, the Lexus, not the key.) Sure, the GS has its problems; what car doesn’t? Eight years on the market with only one half-hearted, spindly grilled facelift means Lexus isn’t giving it the love it deserves, and one can see the business case: Mid-size luxury yachts like the GS aren’t racking up the sales they used to.
The GS also faces some tough competition. Audi’s new-for-2019 A6 is a gem. The Mercedes E-Class goes from strength to strength, thanks to a full lineup that includes coupe, convertible, and hot-rod variants. The Jag XF has an elegance the GS can only faintly imitate. And a recent 1,500-mile road trip in our Four Seasons M550i has convinced this BMW skeptic of the merits of that car. When compared to any of these vehicles and given its advanced age and Euro-wannabe roots, the shortcomings of the GS become painfully obvious.
Still, the GS isn’t totally lost in this crowd. It’s comfortable and quiet, reasonably affordable compared to the Germans, fuel efficient, and built like the proverbial brick outhouse. The latter is nothing to sneeze at, as anyone who has had to foot the bills for long-term life support of a complex European luxury car will attest.
The Lexus GS should have been easy for me to dismiss, but it wasn’t. I might even recommend it to a friend, though I’d probably do it through a third party. I’m glad I drove the GS 450h, and I’d gladly drive it again, though I’d rather wait to get behind the wheel of the new one—that is if there is one.
2018 Lexus GS 450h Specifications
ON SALE Now PRICE $64,660/67665 (base/as tested) ENGINE 3.5L DOHC 24-valve V-6/286 hp @ 6,000 rpm, 257 lb-ft @ 4,500 rpm MOTOR Permanent magnet synchronous, 2x/180 hp, 197 hp COMBINED OUTPUT 338 hp BATTERY Ni-MH/650V, 6.5Ah, 41 kW TRANSMISSION Power-split-speed continuously variable LAYOUT 4-door, 5-passenger, front-engine, RWD sedan EPA MILEAGE 29/34 mpg (city/hwy) L x W x H 192.1 x 72.4 x 57.3 in WHEELBASE 112.2 in WEIGHT 4,112 lb 0-60 MPH 5.6 sec TOP SPEED 137 mph
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eddiejpoplar · 7 years ago
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Quick Take: 2018 Toyota Sienna
Testing the 2018 Toyota Sienna has taught me that minivans can be very dangerous things.
I don’t mean they are dangerous to drive—heavens, no. Statistically, minivans are among the safest places to be, somewhere between riding in a school bus and holing up in your own basement with a week’s supply of provisions and a Netflix membership.
No, the problem with minivans is that they sometimes grow on you. It’s a lesson I learned the hard way with the Toyota Sienna.
Among car buffs, minivans are supposed to be disliked, disparaged, and disrespected. Sure, we acknowledge their usefulness; I don’t think there’s a gearhead alive who denies that the best way to ship your family is in a box. Cubic foot for cubic foot, a minivan does a better job hauling groups of five to seven than pretty much any SUV on the market.
But we aren’t supposed to like them.
And yet that’s what happened to me when I had the Toyota Sienna, and under rather peculiar circumstances.
It started after my first night with the Sienna. (Er, I meant that I drove the Sienna home for the night. Minds out of the gutter, please.) My first impressions of Toyota’s aging minivan were good: The 296-hp V-6 pulls smoothly, the eight-speed automatic shifts seamlessly, the handling is surprisingly responsive, and the ride is steady, quiet and comfortable.
The steering is a bit worse than I expected; it feels overboosted and there’s little resistance as you pull it off-center. New for 2018 is standard-fit lane-departure assistance system, part and parcel of the Toyota Safety Sense system which also includes adaptive cruise control, collision mitigation, and automatic high beams. If it thinks you’re drifting out of your lane, it will make steering corrections—and the force of those corrections is way out of proportion to the steering’s light heft. It makes for an interesting ride down the highway, that’s for sure.
Overall, the Sienna was pretty much what I expected: An appliance on wheels. A weapon of mass transportation.
And then the unthinkable happened.
Wednesday. Lunchtime. I perused the list of cars visiting the Automobile office for testing, looking for a suitable ride to my favorite sandwich shop. There was a Jaguar F-Type coupe with the new 2.0T engine. We had a Cadillac CT6 with the new plug-in hybrid drivetrain that I’ve been eager to try out. The Honda Civic Type R, a favorite from our Four Seasons fleet, was knocking about. There was plenty of good metal to choose from.
And then, out of the blue, a thought crossed my mind, a thought so bone-chillingly horrifying that my fingers are shaking with the very thought of typing it:
I’ll just take the Sienna.
The notion was so deplorable, so abhorrent to every fiber of my car-crazy being, that I was stunned—stunned, I tell you!—to the point that I could do nothing but walk, zombie-like, to the waiting mommymobile.
As I cruised to lunch in the Sienna, I tried to think: What was it about this car that had so enamored me?
Let’s be honest: Even among minivans, the Sienna is not at the top of its game. Sure, it has lots of nifty features, most of which were on display in our top-of-the-line Limited Premium tester (no, seriously, that’s the name of the trim level—not just Limited, not just Premium, but Limited and Premium!). The third-row seat motors down into the luggage well, leaving a nice flat load floor. A split-screen rear-seat entertainment system lets Thing 1 watch a Bluray movie while Thing 2 watches whatever is plugged into the HDMI port. It has second row seats that recline corporate-jet style. It even has a rear sunroof that actually opens.
There are toys for the driver as well. Driver Easy Speak—I’m sure most families will come to know it by my pet name, the Voice of God—amplifies the driver’s voice over the rear speakers, making threats to turn this van right around and go straight home extra-effective. And once parked, pressing the camera button shows a 360-degree spin which then pulls out to a top-down view, allowing you to see if you’ve docked this ship between the lines.
All cool. But worth giving up a ride in a Civic Type R or a Jaguar F-Type? (Okay, maybe the F-Type.)
No. There were other forces at work. Forces beyond my control. Forces too powerful for me to comprehend.
And lest you think I am exaggerating for the sake of the story, I can tell you that whatever the nature of this strange minivan-loving affliction may be, it’s contagious.
On Friday, a Nissan GT-R arrived at the office. Executive editor Mac Morrison was on the list to take it home, and I broke the Sienna’s grip on my soul just long enough to borrow the hi-po Nissan for lunch. (Er, I drove it to lunch. I did not actually have the GT-R for lunch, although I’m sure it would have given me my daily supply of iron. Oh! Thank you! I’m here all week!) Afterward, I went to Mac’s office to give him the key.
“Oh, uh, thanks, but
 I was hoping to take the Sienna for the weekend,” he said.
“What, the minivan?” I asked, incredulous. This man owns a Porsche.
“Er, yes.”
“But you’re signed up for the GT-R,” I said.
“Well, yes, but I need something, er, different,” he said.
“Mac, you’re the executive editor of Automobile. Why would you willingly give up the GT-R for a minivan, let alone a Sienna?” I asked.
“Kids,” he said.
“You don’t have kids,” I said.
“Listen, take the [expletive deleted] GT-R keys, get back to your [expletive deleted] cubicle, and stop asking so many [expletive deleted] questions.”
Monday morning, I was back in Mac’s office to check in with him.
“How was the Sienna?” I asked.
“Oh, it was great!” he bubbled. “It has seats that
 er
” A confused look came over his face, which then clouded with annoyance. “It was boring. Of course it was boring. Stupid minivans.”
“But you just said—“
“Don’t you owe me a Lexus writeup?” he snapped. “Unless you want to spend the rest of your career vacuuming floor mats for Car and Driver, I suggest you finish it. Now.”
And back to my desk I went, trying to figure out this ridiculous affection we were developing for the Sienna.
Among minivans, it just doesn’t stand out. The Chrysler Pacifica is nicer (and offers a terrific plug-in hybrid system for pollution-free school runs). The Kia Sedona feels more upscale and less van-like. The Honda Odyssey has better steering. Sure, the Sienna is the only one to offer all-wheel-drive, but it’s the oldest of this bunch—the current iteration dates back to the 2011 model year—and it’s the most expensive at both the bottom and the top of the model range.
But the Sienna does seem to have a strange sort of charisma (or is it swagger?) that the other vans lack. No matter how much you resist it, it’s hard not to admire the Sienna, or at least to appreciate it.
I breathed a loud sigh of relief when the Toyota people came to take it away.
The conversations portrayed in this review are works of fiction. Any resemblance to conversations I actually had with Mac Morrison, living or dead, is purely coincidental. That said, that thing about him trading me the GT-R for the Sienna? That really happened.
2018 Toyota Sienna Specifications
ON SALE Now PRICE $31,895 (base) / $48,580 (as tested) ENGINE 3.6 liter 24-valve DOHC V-6/296 hp@6,600 rpm, 263 lb-ft @ 4,700 rpm TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic LAYOUT 4-door, 7-8-passenger, front-engine, FWD/AWD minivan EPA MILEAGE 18-19/24-27 (city/hwy) L x W x H 200.6 x 78.1 x 68.9-71.3 in WHEELBASE 119.3 in WEIGHT 4,430-4,615 lb 0-60 MPH N/A TOP SPEED N/A
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jonathanbelloblog · 7 years ago
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Quick Take: 2018 Toyota Sienna
Testing the 2018 Toyota Sienna has taught me that minivans can be very dangerous things.
I don’t mean they are dangerous to drive—heavens, no. Statistically, minivans are among the safest places to be, somewhere between riding in a school bus and holing up in your own basement with a week’s supply of provisions and a Netflix membership.
No, the problem with minivans is that they sometimes grow on you. It’s a lesson I learned the hard way with the Toyota Sienna.
Among car buffs, minivans are supposed to be disliked, disparaged, and disrespected. Sure, we acknowledge their usefulness; I don’t think there’s a gearhead alive who denies that the best way to ship your family is in a box. Cubic foot for cubic foot, a minivan does a better job hauling groups of five to seven than pretty much any SUV on the market.
But we aren’t supposed to like them.
And yet that’s what happened to me when I had the Toyota Sienna, and under rather peculiar circumstances.
It started after my first night with the Sienna. (Er, I meant that I drove the Sienna home for the night. Minds out of the gutter, please.) My first impressions of Toyota’s aging minivan were good: The 296-hp V-6 pulls smoothly, the eight-speed automatic shifts seamlessly, the handling is surprisingly responsive, and the ride is steady, quiet and comfortable.
The steering is a bit worse than I expected; it feels overboosted and there’s little resistance as you pull it off-center. New for 2018 is standard-fit lane-departure assistance system, part and parcel of the Toyota Safety Sense system which also includes adaptive cruise control, collision mitigation, and automatic high beams. If it thinks you’re drifting out of your lane, it will make steering corrections—and the force of those corrections is way out of proportion to the steering’s light heft. It makes for an interesting ride down the highway, that’s for sure.
Overall, the Sienna was pretty much what I expected: An appliance on wheels. A weapon of mass transportation.
And then the unthinkable happened.
Wednesday. Lunchtime. I perused the list of cars visiting the Automobile office for testing, looking for a suitable ride to my favorite sandwich shop. There was a Jaguar F-Type coupe with the new 2.0T engine. We had a Cadillac CT6 with the new plug-in hybrid drivetrain that I’ve been eager to try out. The Honda Civic Type R, a favorite from our Four Seasons fleet, was knocking about. There was plenty of good metal to choose from.
And then, out of the blue, a thought crossed my mind, a thought so bone-chillingly horrifying that my fingers are shaking with the very thought of typing it:
I’ll just take the Sienna.
The notion was so deplorable, so abhorrent to every fiber of my car-crazy being, that I was stunned—stunned, I tell you!—to the point that I could do nothing but walk, zombie-like, to the waiting mommymobile.
As I cruised to lunch in the Sienna, I tried to think: What was it about this car that had so enamored me?
Let’s be honest: Even among minivans, the Sienna is not at the top of its game. Sure, it has lots of nifty features, most of which were on display in our top-of-the-line Limited Premium tester (no, seriously, that’s the name of the trim level—not just Limited, not just Premium, but Limited and Premium!). The third-row seat motors down into the luggage well, leaving a nice flat load floor. A split-screen rear-seat entertainment system lets Thing 1 watch a Bluray movie while Thing 2 watches whatever is plugged into the HDMI port. It has second row seats that recline corporate-jet style. It even has a rear sunroof that actually opens.
There are toys for the driver as well. Driver Easy Speak—I’m sure most families will come to know it by my pet name, the Voice of God—amplifies the driver’s voice over the rear speakers, making threats to turn this van right around and go straight home extra-effective. And once parked, pressing the camera button shows a 360-degree spin which then pulls out to a top-down view, allowing you to see if you’ve docked this ship between the lines.
All cool. But worth giving up a ride in a Civic Type R or a Jaguar F-Type? (Okay, maybe the F-Type.)
No. There were other forces at work. Forces beyond my control. Forces too powerful for me to comprehend.
And lest you think I am exaggerating for the sake of the story, I can tell you that whatever the nature of this strange minivan-loving affliction may be, it’s contagious.
On Friday, a Nissan GT-R arrived at the office. Executive editor Mac Morrison was on the list to take it home, and I broke the Sienna’s grip on my soul just long enough to borrow the hi-po Nissan for lunch. (Er, I drove it to lunch. I did not actually have the GT-R for lunch, although I’m sure it would have given me my daily supply of iron. Oh! Thank you! I’m here all week!) Afterward, I went to Mac’s office to give him the key.
“Oh, uh, thanks, but
 I was hoping to take the Sienna for the weekend,” he said.
“What, the minivan?” I asked, incredulous. This man owns a Porsche.
“Er, yes.”
“But you’re signed up for the GT-R,” I said.
“Well, yes, but I need something, er, different,” he said.
“Mac, you’re the executive editor of Automobile. Why would you willingly give up the GT-R for a minivan, let alone a Sienna?” I asked.
“Kids,” he said.
“You don’t have kids,” I said.
“Listen, take the [expletive deleted] GT-R keys, get back to your [expletive deleted] cubicle, and stop asking so many [expletive deleted] questions.”
Monday morning, I was back in Mac’s office to check in with him.
“How was the Sienna?” I asked.
“Oh, it was great!” he bubbled. “It has seats that
 er
” A confused look came over his face, which then clouded with annoyance. “It was boring. Of course it was boring. Stupid minivans.”
“But you just said—“
“Don’t you owe me a Lexus writeup?” he snapped. “Unless you want to spend the rest of your career vacuuming floor mats for Car and Driver, I suggest you finish it. Now.”
And back to my desk I went, trying to figure out this ridiculous affection we were developing for the Sienna.
Among minivans, it just doesn’t stand out. The Chrysler Pacifica is nicer (and offers a terrific plug-in hybrid system for pollution-free school runs). The Kia Sedona feels more upscale and less van-like. The Honda Odyssey has better steering. Sure, the Sienna is the only one to offer all-wheel-drive, but it’s the oldest of this bunch—the current iteration dates back to the 2011 model year—and it’s the most expensive at both the bottom and the top of the model range.
But the Sienna does seem to have a strange sort of charisma (or is it swagger?) that the other vans lack. No matter how much you resist it, it’s hard not to admire the Sienna, or at least to appreciate it.
I breathed a loud sigh of relief when the Toyota people came to take it away.
The conversations portrayed in this review are works of fiction. Any resemblance to conversations I actually had with Mac Morrison, living or dead, is purely coincidental. That said, that thing about him trading me the GT-R for the Sienna? That really happened.
2018 Toyota Sienna Specifications
ON SALE Now PRICE $31,895 (base) / $48,580 (as tested) ENGINE 3.6 liter 24-valve DOHC V-6/296 hp@6,600 rpm, 263 lb-ft @ 4,700 rpm TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic LAYOUT 4-door, 7-8-passenger, front-engine, FWD/AWD minivan EPA MILEAGE 18-19/24-27 (city/hwy) L x W x H 200.6 x 78.1 x 68.9-71.3 in WHEELBASE 119.3 in WEIGHT 4,430-4,615 lb 0-60 MPH N/A TOP SPEED N/A
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Quick Take: 2018 Toyota Sienna
Testing the 2018 Toyota Sienna has taught me that minivans can be very dangerous things.
I don’t mean they are dangerous to drive—heavens, no. Statistically, minivans are among the safest places to be, somewhere between riding in a school bus and holing up in your own basement with a week’s supply of provisions and a Netflix membership.
No, the problem with minivans is that they sometimes grow on you. It’s a lesson I learned the hard way with the Toyota Sienna.
Among car buffs, minivans are supposed to be disliked, disparaged, and disrespected. Sure, we acknowledge their usefulness; I don’t think there’s a gearhead alive who denies that the best way to ship your family is in a box. Cubic foot for cubic foot, a minivan does a better job hauling groups of five to seven than pretty much any SUV on the market.
But we aren’t supposed to like them.
And yet that’s what happened to me when I had the Toyota Sienna, and under rather peculiar circumstances.
It started after my first night with the Sienna. (Er, I meant that I drove the Sienna home for the night. Minds out of the gutter, please.) My first impressions of Toyota’s aging minivan were good: The 296-hp V-6 pulls smoothly, the eight-speed automatic shifts seamlessly, the handling is surprisingly responsive, and the ride is steady, quiet and comfortable.
The steering is a bit worse than I expected; it feels overboosted and there’s little resistance as you pull it off-center. New for 2018 is standard-fit lane-departure assistance system, part and parcel of the Toyota Safety Sense system which also includes adaptive cruise control, collision mitigation, and automatic high beams. If it thinks you’re drifting out of your lane, it will make steering corrections—and the force of those corrections is way out of proportion to the steering’s light heft. It makes for an interesting ride down the highway, that’s for sure.
Overall, the Sienna was pretty much what I expected: An appliance on wheels. A weapon of mass transportation.
And then the unthinkable happened.
Wednesday. Lunchtime. I perused the list of cars visiting the Automobile office for testing, looking for a suitable ride to my favorite sandwich shop. There was a Jaguar F-Type coupe with the new 2.0T engine. We had a Cadillac CT6 with the new plug-in hybrid drivetrain that I’ve been eager to try out. The Honda Civic Type R, a favorite from our Four Seasons fleet, was knocking about. There was plenty of good metal to choose from.
And then, out of the blue, a thought crossed my mind, a thought so bone-chillingly horrifying that my fingers are shaking with the very thought of typing it:
I’ll just take the Sienna.
The notion was so deplorable, so abhorrent to every fiber of my car-crazy being, that I was stunned—stunned, I tell you!—to the point that I could do nothing but walk, zombie-like, to the waiting mommymobile.
As I cruised to lunch in the Sienna, I tried to think: What was it about this car that had so enamored me?
Let’s be honest: Even among minivans, the Sienna is not at the top of its game. Sure, it has lots of nifty features, most of which were on display in our top-of-the-line Limited Premium tester (no, seriously, that’s the name of the trim level—not just Limited, not just Premium, but Limited and Premium!). The third-row seat motors down into the luggage well, leaving a nice flat load floor. A split-screen rear-seat entertainment system lets Thing 1 watch a Bluray movie while Thing 2 watches whatever is plugged into the HDMI port. It has second row seats that recline corporate-jet style. It even has a rear sunroof that actually opens.
There are toys for the driver as well. Driver Easy Speak—I’m sure most families will come to know it by my pet name, the Voice of God—amplifies the driver’s voice over the rear speakers, making threats to turn this van right around and go straight home extra-effective. And once parked, pressing the camera button shows a 360-degree spin which then pulls out to a top-down view, allowing you to see if you’ve docked this ship between the lines.
All cool. But worth giving up a ride in a Civic Type R or a Jaguar F-Type? (Okay, maybe the F-Type.)
No. There were other forces at work. Forces beyond my control. Forces too powerful for me to comprehend.
And lest you think I am exaggerating for the sake of the story, I can tell you that whatever the nature of this strange minivan-loving affliction may be, it’s contagious.
On Friday, a Nissan GT-R arrived at the office. Executive editor Mac Morrison was on the list to take it home, and I broke the Sienna’s grip on my soul just long enough to borrow the hi-po Nissan for lunch. (Er, I drove it to lunch. I did not actually have the GT-R for lunch, although I’m sure it would have given me my daily supply of iron. Oh! Thank you! I’m here all week!) Afterward, I went to Mac’s office to give him the key.
“Oh, uh, thanks, but
 I was hoping to take the Sienna for the weekend,” he said.
“What, the minivan?” I asked, incredulous. This man owns a Porsche.
“Er, yes.”
“But you’re signed up for the GT-R,” I said.
“Well, yes, but I need something, er, different,” he said.
“Mac, you’re the executive editor of Automobile. Why would you willingly give up the GT-R for a minivan, let alone a Sienna?” I asked.
“Kids,” he said.
“You don’t have kids,” I said.
“Listen, take the [expletive deleted] GT-R keys, get back to your [expletive deleted] cubicle, and stop asking so many [expletive deleted] questions.”
Monday morning, I was back in Mac’s office to check in with him.
“How was the Sienna?” I asked.
“Oh, it was great!” he bubbled. “It has seats that
 er
” A confused look came over his face, which then clouded with annoyance. “It was boring. Of course it was boring. Stupid minivans.”
“But you just said—“
“Don’t you owe me a Lexus writeup?” he snapped. “Unless you want to spend the rest of your career vacuuming floor mats for Car and Driver, I suggest you finish it. Now.”
And back to my desk I went, trying to figure out this ridiculous affection we were developing for the Sienna.
Among minivans, it just doesn’t stand out. The Chrysler Pacifica is nicer (and offers a terrific plug-in hybrid system for pollution-free school runs). The Kia Sedona feels more upscale and less van-like. The Honda Odyssey has better steering. Sure, the Sienna is the only one to offer all-wheel-drive, but it’s the oldest of this bunch—the current iteration dates back to the 2011 model year—and it’s the most expensive at both the bottom and the top of the model range.
But the Sienna does seem to have a strange sort of charisma (or is it swagger?) that the other vans lack. No matter how much you resist it, it’s hard not to admire the Sienna, or at least to appreciate it.
I breathed a loud sigh of relief when the Toyota people came to take it away.
The conversations portrayed in this review are works of fiction. Any resemblance to conversations I actually had with Mac Morrison, living or dead, is purely coincidental. That said, that thing about him trading me the GT-R for the Sienna? That really happened.
2018 Toyota Sienna Specifications
ON SALE Now PRICE $31,895 (base) / $48,580 (as tested) ENGINE 3.6 liter 24-valve DOHC V-6/296 hp@6,600 rpm, 263 lb-ft @ 4,700 rpm TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic LAYOUT 4-door, 7-8-passenger, front-engine, FWD/AWD minivan EPA MILEAGE 18-19/24-27 (city/hwy) L x W x H 200.6 x 78.1 x 68.9-71.3 in WHEELBASE 119.3 in WEIGHT 4,430-4,615 lb 0-60 MPH N/A TOP SPEED N/A
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