#its just oughhhhh the cycles brother. i am obsessed with this.
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I always think it's so so interesting that in the areas of the creel home where Henry finds spiders, there is no rose imagery. Like in the bathroom and the attic, there is intentionally no sort of rosey wallpaper that we see all over the place. In the dining room, it's a bit of a stretch, but I suppose Henry was the "spider" in that scene which is why the wallpaper is plain orange. Almost like the roses are meant to represent "rose colored glasses" in a sense. Like the wallpaper hides the spiders behind the walls. It makes me think of Alice's line about how it's all like a fairy tale. Also, brings to mind the references to the creel home in the wheeler home, including the rose wallpaper + urn/fake urns.
But also not only that but the trend of wheeler women wearing rose patterns as to imply that they're not being honest about themselves. Nancy wore a rose design in the first wheeler family photo, and even though she wasn't wearing the same shirt when Jonathan snapped that pic of her when she was taking it off in Steve's bedroom, his comment about how she was "being herself" is interesting (also Nancy just wears a lot of pink-white-blue in s1+s2).
(which honestly I think my interpretation holds weight when you consider how the writers took a risk of possibly making Jonathan out to be a creep just to get this point across. And it always seemed like a pretty strange line to me at least).
Especially, again, a person faking in ST is often conveyed through clothing, as with Argyle's comment on Mike's clothing at the airport.
And also I love Rose Robin so much because Steve's line about how Robin just needs to be herself, and how she was too uncomfortable in her "Rose Weaver" outfit? Because it just wasn't her? And Virginia in her white-pink gown when she sees the spiders in the bathtub and just simply runs away and hugs Victor- "rose colored glasses" (which honestly I could write so much about how victor is associated with the spiders + the grandfather clock but not in a way that condemns Victor himself but instead it's an image that being unfairly projected onto him- which honestly makes me feel even more sad for his character).
Honestly given Holly is fully submerged in this symbolism also in s4 - despite only being six- I could bring in (back on my bullshit again) Ted's relationship with his children and how that seems to be intertwined with this.
#bc nancy starts out like this and shes clearly the most iced out wheeler sibling at that point#i just wonder. the fact that nancy is seemingly perfect: smart beautiful perfect. suburban princess#but yet shes 'not herself'#yeah its about conformity but also is it about her fathers love? how she felt like she lost it? ultra perfectionism to get it back but she#cant?#and in s4 nancy finally growing up symbolized by her donating her toy rabbit. then we see holly currently playing on her lite brite buildin#a rabbit. while wearing roses#its just oughhhhh the cycles brother. i am obsessed with this.#often people complain that holly doesnt say or do much but i think thats intentional#shes the 'ideal' child- quiet. free affection. meant to be seen and not heard#we see it repeatedly when holly points things out (ferries wheel) and is just ignored#also holly is blonde- shes the next rosemary/rose. not unless the cycle is broken#mike and nancy are on their way out and may not even look back. as signified by the fact that they seemingly dont have close#relationships#ooughhhh oighhhhhhhh#rosegate? rosegate#its like... conformity enforced by your parents. thats where it comes from. its all over s4. everything about it.
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