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HONAKI PART 2 CHAPTER 3 SPOILERS
I hate gay people I hate gay people so much.
#it's. not. even. /j anymore.#for most of Part 2 I've kinda just been coasting because#(like a lot of recent HI3 story it seems) some of the details leave me a little lost#and so I wasn't particularly invested until after the dream ended#and AFTER THE DREAM I was more-so '???? What the fuck is going on??????'-invested than anything else#but THIS struck me with a force comparable to that of a supernova blast 'cause I just WASN'T EXPECTING IT#OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH#the central idea of:#“What right do YOU have to choose to live if your death is the only key to saving an entire world?”#ooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuughhhh and for Songque to be so ensnared in the mindset that she can't change it#THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A RIGHT!!! TO WANT ! IT TO CHANGE#oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhh I'm gonna be sick#I hate gay people#I hate HOYOVERSE gays#Thelema Nutriscu I know what you are#Thelema Honkai Impact 3rd I will pummel you into the ground#blazingshitpost#blazingshitpost honkai edition#Honkai Impact 3rd#Honkai Impact 3rd Part 2#HI3#HI3 Part 2#HI3 Part 2 Chapter 3
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what they dont tell you about adulthood is that it’s startlingly easy to go long periods of time without having any fun at all not even a little bit. btw this makes ur brain try to kill you with knives and hammers.
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Titans: ...what do you have there, Roy?
Roy: oh! This is my daughter, Lian! Say hi Lian!
Titans: She doesn't much look like you...
Roy: oh yeah she takes after her mom more
Titans: and who is she?
Roy: Chessire
Titans: ......the assassin who has tried to kill us so many times?
Roy: Yep!
Titans: ......okay, warn us next time when you get into a relationship, please-
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Roy: Hey! I know it's been a while, but I thought I should tell you, I'm dating someone!
Titans: oh, we're happy for you! Who is it?
Roy: Red Hood
Titans:
Roy:
Titans:
Roy:
Titans: .....the same Red Hood who cut off people's heads and put them in a bag, attacked the Tower and has tried to kill or maim Batman and everybody else in Gotham multiple times?
Roy: Yep! 🥰
Titans: .......we are sensing a pattern here and it's a worrying one-
#roy harper the certified villain fucker#he has a very specific taste#dark haired criminals with a traumatic past whose names start with a j#everyone: roy blink twice if you are in danger#roy: awww guys he isn't like that anymore-#everyone: he shot someone in live tv last week!#roy: everyone makes mistakes! and the guy didn't even die!#everyone: THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY BETTER#roy: YES IT DOES#dc#jayroy#roy harper#jason todd#arsenal#red hood
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uh oh
also change my yuus outfit www
#twisted wonderland#twst#ツイステ#ツイステッドワンダーランド#mmarts#twst spoilers#twst oc#twst yuu#twst grim#skully j graves#lock shock n barrel there too lol#this is really much more messier than my usual lol im so tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiired#i cant draw like the usual anymore lol cause of shift change for eel omg#anyway#this update is insane and theres a bunch of shit i want to draw but i hope i draw that on the weekend#cause i really wanna doodle thwe events shenanigans mannn ouaghghahg#sorry im yapping#im eepy and also the sun is hot#i havent even have time to properly read the event kek#just snippets
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OMG SKULLLYYYYY
HES SO CUTE- HES SO ANIMATED AND HIS VOICE IS PITCHED JUST RIGHT THATS ITS LIKE "OH YOURE A PUPPY" AND IT FITS HIM SO WELL AND HES SO FLUFFY AND HE FUCKING KISSED EVERYONE AND CALLED YUU LOVELY AND IS JUST JOKINGLY FLIRTING WITH EVERYONE AND I JUST-
ALL THE OTHER CHACTERS ARE ALL RESERVED AND WEIRD WHEN IT COMES TO HIGS AND KISSES BUT YOU KNOW WHO AINT?! THIS GUY!!! THIS GAY IS FINE IF YUUS ALL KISSY FLIRTY WITH HIM CAUSE HES THE SAME WAY AND ITS JUST 😫😫😫😫 WE HAVE AN OUTLET!!! I CAN BE AS AFFECTIONATE AS I DAMN WELL PLEASE WITH THIS MF AND IT'LL BE FINE CAUSE HE MATCHES ENERGY SO WELL
HES MY NEW FAVORITE WHITE BOY!!! HES SUCH A GENTLEMAN BUT IN SUCH A CHAOTIC WAY AND I LOVE HIM SO MUCH OMGGGGGG
He's so energetic and full of life in the same way as the Addams Family is, a real win for the goths and the emos who have stayed stanning Jack the Pumpkin King since Hot Topic first opened it's doors <3
He's even holding Yuu in his arms when they wake up... which gave me a truly evil idea he's such a sweetheart by the sounds of the event so far I will be so sad when we forget everything upon leaving the book. The other NRC guys are just jealous he has the confidence and energy to be a fun flirt because they're too used to Rook pretending to be french to appreciate Skully's swagger lol
#<3 asks#twst spoilers#twisted wonderland x reader#twst x reader#skully j graves#hehehee isekaid skully who had a different name and appearance a long time ago#one you would know and remember#but don't anymore but he remembers you#he's so happy to be with you again even if it's for a moment... let true love's kiss do its work and wake you#the mages can stir themselves but you needed his help#he'll miss you when it is time for you to leave the book but when the story is over#and your souls can finally be laid to rest he'll be there so you can make life's last journey together </3
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shut up im coping
#do i even need to spoiler tag this?#yknow what. yeah. im gonna rant anyway#wild life smp#life series spoilers#wild life spoilers#GET HER OUT OF THAT TEAM. GIRL PLEASE BETRAY THEM FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YOU SHOULDNT BE THERE#this isnt even me being high on gempearl anymore i wanted her to be with jimmy or skizz and then impulse and just. the blue man jumpscare#and to clarify this is pure character talk. i just. girl your character arc#girl your character arc its on the floor#the scene where they talk about her trauma from dl…i think im gonna combust#shut up. shut up please im smoking copium#i want this team to fall apart so bad. like good for you if youre happy with this but. augh#anyway Lizzie pov was very silly very fun i might just become a Lizzie main this season/j#mcyt#and yes. i am nothing if not dedicated to the bit so i am finding shiny duo screenshots for every ep like last time
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Tommy: Did you know that you have rights? Constitution says you do. I believe that every man, woman, and child is INNOCENT!
Niki: Yo Chat! CHAT! WE HAVE RIGHTS!!! WE MADE IT! We made - we f**king made it. Women’s Rights, let’s f**king go, lets f**king go! We made it. We made it! That’s amazing, thank you so much Tommy Innit. [...]
I was the only woman in this recording. And all they did was talk about their fore.skin *tries not to laugh*. I just wanna let that sink in for a second. This is why I am the w- the victim. This is why I am the victim. This right here. [...]
*reading chat* “Guess you didn’t get women’s rights after all” *laughs then puts her face in her hands* Oh my god Chat. *laughs*
#Nihachu#Niki#Tommy#TommyInnit#IRL#Context: Niki was reacting to Tommy's ''Minecraft's funniest cooking show'' video#A) Can't believe she saw my joke#B) Very pleased that it made her laugh this much#Hello yes it is I; the pinnacle of good Twitch Chat humor#/j#but also /srs I make myself laugh with my jokes and I love it when they makes other people laugh too#Man Tommy in this thumbnail makes this look like a Rickroll video but I swear it frickin isn't a Rickroll#Necessary period in that word because I don't wanna get frickin shadowbanned by tumblr#I actually forgot to add that before posting frick. ruh roh.#Tumblr's so weird about stuff nowadays idk what even triggers their shadow ban hammer anymore#Subtitles#Edited#subtitles#Portfolio
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sorry
I cant make Knalriki Spamton without having a SNeo Urzuk counterpart who the hell do you think i am
I hate him
#Is this cringe? yeah probably. Do i care? A little bit.... /j#what the FUCK wasting my time drawing spamton as stupid creatures instead of working on the damn askbox#man... I dont even know anymore.#spamton g spamton#spamton#creatures of sonaria#Urzuk#urzuk cos#spamton neo
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I swear to whatever beings is on this earth…fucking Phil fucking Lester is blond now. These two British boys are getting more Good Omens coded and they are not even trying to hide it.
Might as well say it now, Welcome to earth Crowley and Aziraphale.
(Phil. Blond really suits you. Nice)
#dan and phil#phil lester#daniel howell#amazingphil#danandphilgames#Good Omens#crowley#aziraphale#antony j crowley#i see crowley and aziraphale#good omens 2#it’s not even funny anymore#I have seen post about them being compared to A.C.#and thought ‘yeah I can see it’#but now
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a lot of people are insisting on viewing jack and joker purely as romance for some reason and getting upset that it is not... and as a result their opinions are so disturbingly disregarding of essentially the whole show because the society as portrayed in it is so so important to jack and joke's relationship and background like do you think the whole four horsemen lore was just for fun??? do you think the temple and the people it houses is just some insignificant nonsense? do you think Suphanimit is just where tattoo lives? do you think Jennie's death was just a silly shock value???
do you think it's a coincidence that the main leads include a rich kid who steals for the poor and a poor kid who is strongly against theft???
romance is OBVIOUSLY difficult in their circumstances like have you met the average economically underprivileged gay person in an underdeveloped part of a developing country??? it's a love that inherently becomes 'different', stitching within it the social 'other'ness of the main characters. that's what people just can't digest. being used to seeing things as this or that, black or white, good or bad, has choked people out of the ability to perceive flawed individuals learning to love and choose their families despite not knowing how to love or protect in the right way, despite the world constantly closing on on them, despite the impact threatening to rip them apart.
#repost because i wanted to add sth#I think we need to be kinder to this show and its characters#like im pretty sure yinwar knew they would get this kind of reaction from thai bl watchers#but as a viewer i guess i did not think people would be this one dimensional in their perception and expression#there's a reason why the society is the way it is after all#we fail to check our privilege at every juncture & even blind to it when it's pointed out to us#because it's so normal#not understanding the degrees to which 'normals' and difficulties change based on who you are and your social standing#the deep character studies in j&j is to analyse this exact thing imo#but uh anyways this post looks so angry because I was angry but I won't be anymore#jack and joker u steal my heart#jack and joker
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Hehe this man is broken and severely emotionally distressed. Silly lovable guy but given self esteem issues because of the crushing weight of perfectionism. Not so funny if you think about it too long. But at least on the upside he cries pretty :))
No but seriously for all those who relate to Mr. Puzzles just want you to know your accomplishments alone do not define your value and worth as a person. Even when you’re a messy work in progress, you are loved and appreciated more than you may recognize. Thank you for being here. Don’t get me wrong it’s good to be idealistic and set goals, but don’t undermine yourself if you don’t get that perfect score….or if you start to fall behind compared to everyone else. Everyone goes through those moments of doubt or perceived failure. We need to fail every once in a while. And that’s okay
…a-anyways funny goofy dramatic TV guy we love him so much so silly so slay he lives in my head rent free yipeee. This animation is dedicated to him because if anyone in the cast deserved a feature length film it was definitely him, and he sure took up the spotlight in Puzzlevison and absolutely owned it. I’m excited for his future endeavors ✨
#someone please how did I make this in two days wh-#wow wow wow what’s going on here how did I do that this is scary super powers being unlocked right now#Mr. Puzzles hyperfixation give me strength and motivation to get shit done I guess??? yay???#like holy shit I’m so productive in my art all the sudden whats this feeling of dopamine and happiness-#WHAT HAPPENED TO MY DEPRESSION WHERE’D IT GO#sir really stepped into my brain and yeeted my depression saying ‘looks like you won’t be needing that anymore’#and now he things he can just puppeteer me around to make countless art pieces in his image and honor??#he’s using me as his pawn to spread his glorious face around the internet HELP jksjksp#no actally don’t it’s very comfortable and freeing here I love letting my silly fixations go rampant <3#I don’t even need to think about what I want to do art stuff just happens naturally#CHEERS TO FICTIONAL MEN YIPEEE#wow he’s so mentally ill just like me fr /j#also now I’m staring to guilt trip myself because I feel bad watching him cry even though I’M THE ONE WHO ANIMATED IT WHYYYY#hplonesome art#mr. puzzles animation#smg4 mr puzzles animation#mr puzzles smg4 animation#sad mr puzzles#mr. puzzles crying animation#smg4 mr puzzles#mr. puzzles smg4
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GAY PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
#I CAN'T!!! FUCKING STAND GAY PEOPLE#THIS ISN'T EVEN /J ANYMORE#(it is. it's /j)#blazingshitpost#honkai star rail#hsr#honkai: star rail#blazingshitpost star rail edition#I know.#I KNOW#BUT TO SEE IT#IN- IN ANIMATED FORM#HoYo you spoil us....#AcheSwan#Acheron#Black Swan#HSR Acheron#HSR Black Swan#gays. good luck to us this one might hit hard#honkai star rail acheron#honkai star rail black swan#100 notes#thank you gay people
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Drew the Hazbin Hotel Cast since A LOONG time ago. I just forgor to show them here
Like the rest of my drawings that i was planning to post here
#artists on tumblr#art#digital art#fanart#hazbin art#hazbin fanart#hazbin hotel#Almost wrote Hasbro Hotel LMAO#charlie morningstar#hazbin charlie#vaggie#hazbin vaggie#angel dust#hazbin angel dust#alastor#hazbin alastor#hazbin hotel husk#hazbin husk#nifty#Hazbin Nifty#Bro i wrote “Hazbin” way too many times#it's starting to NOT look like a word anymore. help#BUT ANYWAYS#the show is VERY FUN TO WATCH#Despite some of its flaws like the PACING. Speedrunning through the plot points like a race car /j#BUT EVEN SO#the songs are a BANGER!!!! I love you Stayed Gone mwa mwa#And it was also very fun to draw them too!! Probably my fav one would be Charlie#I think i drew her well :) bUT I HATED DRAWING HUSK'S WINGS DEAR LORDY#The others were fun to draw too!! Probably had the most proboem with how to pose Angel's four arms lol
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if this post gets like…5000 notes I’ll actually start writing scripts/making storyboards for videos I’ve had ideas about for months
additionally if this gets to 10000 (which I highly doubt it will) I’ll actually work on my abandoned stories, book ideas, and poetry
#Watch me not post this ever /j#Idk I’m loosing motivation and I may be but a humble student rn with no ability to make these videos real atm#But scripts and story boards are a start right?#If anyone cares I have a snippet for CJ’s You sound like Louis Burdett that I really want to do (3:09 - 4:20 roughly..)#And the entirety of Oblivion by grimes has been just sitting there…I wanna do it grrgggrrr#S.K thinks#If you’re reading this I finally grew a pair and decided I don’t want to be stuck anymore#Might schedule this for when I’m at practice so instead of thinking about how posting it is SCARY !!! I am sweating and dying !!!#Idk it feels wrong to post this when I’ve repeatedly given up very easily on my creative career as a whole multiple times#But I always end up NOT doing that so k have a bit of hope that if I get a bunch of people’s support and trust to get back on my feet again#That this time it’ll be different and I’ll stick to it. Even if I think it sucks. It’s my first time doing any of these things seriously#It’s not meant to be perfect…and plus if even one person likes it it’ll have been worth it
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He is 5 years old today everyone clap and cheer for him right now
I didn’t have time to do a full birthday drawing so I had to hastily edit this shitpost I doodled a few days ago
#dst#dst wortox#wortox#the original says full of souls#EVIL how they had the update and didn’t even MENTION his birthday#please Klei put him in the next short he’s been in 2 total#or even Wanda she’s only been in one#I have an entire google docs tally of how many shorts each character has been on j#Wilson has been in 36 he doesn’t need to be in anymore#:(
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I hate when Chakotay is watered down to be Janeway's yes man because their disagreements are actually very interesting. [A lot of rambling analysis of this debate in particular below]
Chakotay in Parallax is very interesting in that he has to navigate a lot of different dynamics. Balance a lot of plates while being watched keenly by everyone around him. Immediately preceding this scene we see him ask B'Elanna for her opinion on the bridge - both as a chance to show her knowledge in his bid to make her chief engineer (because she wouldn't get a chance to otherwise as Janeway has clearly indicated that at this point she views B'Elanna as a troublemaker who won't be considered for the position) and because he just thinks she's a better engineer than Carey and wants the best possible chance of them succeeding. Janeway sees this as unacceptable. Carey is the chief engineer and so he should be called and Chakotay NOT asking for his opinion is an insult to Carey, Janeway, and might make the crew doubt Chakotay (and by extension the Maquis') loyalty to the Starfleet crew.
At this point it seems that to Janeway integration ["They're not your people"] means the path of least resistance, specifically tailored towards the Starfleet crew. She wants Chakotay by her side to keep the Maquis crew calm but also seems unwilling to consider them for important positions aboard the ship. Though she says that the Maquis are not Chakotay's people, not his crew, she certainly doesn't seem to consider them hers [Compare this to later instances where she stresses 'our' crew, here she simply says they aren't Chakotay's: Whose crew are they? Are they crew at all?]. This less leaves the impression of "We need to be a cohesive team" and more "You're not in charge here." She essentially accuses Chakotay of playing favorites. In her mind Chakotay's actions are not conducive to integrating the crews which would (again, in her mind) mean the Maquis being docile and accepting, obedient and content - not making trouble for the Starfleet crew. Chakotay counters Janeway's accusation with one of his own: That he IS trying to integrate them into the crew but her not allowing the Maquis any opportunity to prove themselves or succeed, not showing any trust in any of them (except, implicitly at this point, him) is making things difficult. At this point the Maquis crew are ready to mutiny on his word at any time. He knows this for a fact. Aside from that looming threat (the threat being that tensions are high and if nothing changes and they remain high there might be a mutiny even without his word) - Chakotay knows these people and trusts them. Though Starfleet and Janeway think of the Maquis as a violent bunch of criminal terrorists, Chakotay and a good number of the Maquis joined because they believed in the cause they were fighting for. These are people Chakotay knows WILL fight fiercely for what they believe in and conversely, AGAINST what they perceive as injustice. Even if they're not in the majority - they're used to picking fights which seem impossible to win. At this point Janeway admits that she ISN'T making it easy for Chakotay to integrate the Maquis - specifically talking about practical concerns; how she doesn't feel she can let Maquis crew have roles of importance on the ship because they lack the ability to hold them. "They don't have the discipline, they don't have the training," - asserting that they just aren't prepared for any such roles and it doesn't have to do with them being Maquis specifically. Ostensibly, she's treating them as she might treat anyone unqualified for the job.
Chakotay maintains that some of them, like B'Elanna, have the ability to be trained - challenging her point by saying that IF they're trained there's no reason for any Maquis member NOT to be given a more prominent role on the ship. He isn't suggesting they just unqualified people important jobs. If the problem is that they aren't trained, let's train them. These people have the ability to succeed if you give them the tools they need and a fair chance, he insists. Janeway then switches gears and her argument becomes not "The Maquis are untrained so they can't be given those jobs" but "The Maquis crew are unworthy of those jobs when compared to Starfleet personnel" saying that it'll cause insult and upset among the Starfleet crew if any member of the Maquis were to be promoted above them. Again, her idea of integration is based more on Maquis subservience to the Starfleet crew than it is the two crews working together. (Not that I believe she looks at it that way, it's just where her 'path of least resistance' leads) - though she accuses Chakotay of being too focused on "his" crew, she is admitting here that she believes her real crew are the Starfleet officers aboard, not the Maquis. She also admits here that the system she wishes to maintain (and is asking Chakotay to enforce) is one where there will ostensibly never be any chance of a Maquis crew member being promoted because no Maquis crew member will ever be more qualified, more worthy, than a member of Starfleet. We can see how it'd be difficult for Chakotay to convince his crew to remain calm under these circumstances. There's also Tuvok's behavior toward him at the beginning of the episode where the Vulcan nearly goes over Chakotay's head and when he doesn't do so (as Chakotay reminds him that HE'S the superior officer, the First Officer in fact,) Tuvok acts as if him backing down (partially) and conceding (partially) to Chakotay's authority is a favor to Chakotay.
Tuvok in this conversation is downright insubordinate to Chakotay. Despite Chakotay being the first officer, he doesn't take what he says seriously, argues that his own opinion on what should be done should be followed rather than Chakotay's, lectures the first officer about his conduct, and then almost seems to threaten him with a report. In Starfleet's rigidly hierarchical rules, acting like this to a superior officer (ESPECIALLY the first officer) wouldn't be tolerated and Tuvok knows this perfectly well. He isn't a rebellious character and clearly in other episodes adheres to these Starfleet hierarchies and codes of conduct very strictly. He values them highly. But Chakotay, a Maquis, shouldn't be First Officer. Why should he be given respect for a title he didn't earn? [Affirming Janeway's argument about how Starfleet officers won't be eager to follow a Maquis senior officer] Even though Chakotay tells Tuvok off for it ["I don't have to explain myself to you"] he doesn't threaten to put Tuvok on report or explicitly mention his insubordination. It's unclear if this is Chakotay's personality or if he just doesn't feel he CAN do that. Tuvok is one of the three most senior officers aboard and very close to Janeway. Chakotay has to think of the optics of any situation at all times - we see seconds after this conversation that rumors have already started swirling around B'Elanna being relegated to quarters that've fanned the flames of mutiny. Though we know Tuvok has personal reasons for behaving the way he does toward Chakotay (which he later admits), I really don't think it'd be out of the ordinary for this to be how most Starfleet personnel would treat the Maquis if they weren't outright hostile: Like they're only pretend crewmen. To a lesser extent we even see this with Janeway: In the following staff meeting, she clearly doesn't consider B'Elanna a viable option when Chakotay brings her up and almost ignores the suggestion entirely.
It also, again, leaves Chakotay in an impossible position. If he doesn't protect and fight for the Maquis crew, they won't ever be considered a true part of the crew and dissatisfaction will likely spread among them. Dissatisfaction which the Starfleet crew will then use to further label the Maquis as insubordinate, uncontrollable, unfit. Not to mention that if he doesn't advocate for them, he might lose their trust. However, if he DOES try to help the Maquis crew advance the Starfleet crew will view this as 'favoritism' and will further distrust him, won't respect the people he puts forth as worthy. Janeway seems to be intent on not advocating for any of the Maquis crew and also seems unwilling to ask that the Starfleet crew grant leniency. She implies that the Maquis crew need to learn to get in line and keep quiet and it seems almost like [we must remember the optics] she has Chakotay as the only Maquis in a position of power to facilitate that. Chakotay recognizes and pushes against that, saying that he won't just be her token Maquis - there only so she can point to him and say "See? We don't discriminate against the Maquis here." effectively a tool used to shut down any arguments of unfair treatment and a tool to quell the Maquis if any talk of mutiny DOES arise. In this model, Janeway can just tell Chakotay to calm them down and they'll listen because they trust him. She also doesn't have to really listen to anything he says: A token First Officer has no authority; his words don't hold weight. [Chakotay isn't Maquis anymore, they aren't his crew anymore - ok. What is he then? What are they? Nothing, without respect.] This plan seems untenable, as much as Janeway frames it as sensible: "I can't make it easy, Commander. Surely you can understand that," and alternatives as impossible "How am I supposed to ask them to accept a Maquis as their superior officer just because circumstances have forced us together?" - in the long run, how would this be sustainable? In any power structure, you cannot expect a group of people you're unwilling to grant trust or agency to obediently follow you forever. This proposed form of 'integration' in which the Maquis are kept on the bottom rung and told intermittently to stay there quietly by the only one of them granted permission to stand at the top would never be sustainable - especially with a group like the Maquis who again, were founded on the belief that its members should fight against inequity and are already on the verge of mutiny.
I specifically find the statement "How am I supposed to ask them to accept a Maquis as their superior officer just because circumstances have forced us together?" to be interesting because personally I'd say that being forced together for the rest of almost everyone's natural life is a pretty good reason to ask people to adapt and Janeway does understand this but only applies it to the Maquis - the Maquis are the ones who have to adapt, not Starfleet. The only thing the Starfleet crew have to do is tolerate their presence on board.
At this point Janeway again claims that if Chakotay can show her a 'qualified' Maquis candidate she'll consider them. I believe this is true but we already know that Janeway's standards for qualification will likely not fit the vast majority of the Maquis and Chakotay ignores the claim in favor of putting forth B'Elanna again, firmly. Janeway predictably dismisses her as unqualified and Chakotay disagrees, arguing that he knows her. He's worked with her. He KNOWS that B'Elanna can excel at the job even if she doesn't meet Starfleet/Janeway's qualifications. He doesn't value those qualifications over what he's observed about her - just as he didn't value Carey's title over what he knew about the gap between his and B'Elanna's abilities. Then, Chakotay switches gears. He admits that Janeway's right - he does view the Maquis as his crew but that's because Janeway (almost self admittingly) doesn't and if he doesn't, who will they have? [What kind of captain, kind of man, would he be?] "You're going to have to give them more authority if you want their loyalty." "Theirs or yours, Commander?" Janeway frames Chakotay's words pointing out the flaws in this plan which I outlined earlier, as almost a threat (if she doesn't have Chakotay's loyalty it'll most definitely mean mutiny). Chakotay asserts that it wasn't a threat, he's only trying to help by telling her how the Maquis crew will react to what she's telling him. "I'm sorry you can't see that" - not an apology for what he said but that she isn't willing to budge, not willing to listen to him and acknowledge that she might be as biased towards her crew as he is towards his. Chakotay is trying his best to acclimate his crew but if Janeway isn't willing to do the same, to talk to her people as he's talking to his, then this will not end well and that isn't a threat. It's just the reality of the situation. He then asks permission to leave, showing he is willing to observe Starfleet protocol (just as when he asked permission to speak freely), and Janeway lets him go, exhaling at the intensity of their debate when alone in her ready room.
#J/C is not interesting to me when they're strifelessly playing house or Chakotay is her lovesick yesman who'll do whatever she says#Kathryn Janeway#Chakotay#I really wish they'd kept up this kind of tension between the crews and used Tuvok/Janeway/Tuvok as like a microcosm of that tension#it'd be so good!!#Tuvok#<- he's there too#chara analysis#star trek voyager#st voy#Is this the only episode they call the ship 'The Voyager' ??#Also hearing Harry call Tom 'Mr Paris' is funny - early seasons voyager you have my heart early seasons voy supremacy#ANYWAY - that's beside the point#I do like how the maquis v starfleet tension is handled in this episode#I love how we see everyone start working together and relationships begin to form#How once B'Elanna shows her stuff Janeway is almost immediately intrigued and excited & how B'Elanna feeds off that excitement#The Doctor: -annoyed annoyed complaining complaining snarky comment- ugh I can't believe I have to help with something STUPID#Kes: You're very sensitive aren't you~? /gen /pos#The Doctor: ???? um ..... haha. idk. anyway I'm glad I could help :)#'how can we be seeing a reflection of something that we hadn't even done yet?' Voyager I love you MWAH#Tom Janeway B'Elanna: -temporal mechanics- / Harry: .... so how do we get out???#SUUCKS that in later seasons B'Elanna & Chakotay's relationship isn't focused on anymore but I mean. Every poc is pushed aside in later#seasons. But here you can see how much Chakotay believes in her and wants her to succeed!!! No wonder she likes him so much#He was probably one of the first people to really believe in her and SHOW IT and now Janeway's doing the same thing <3#My above post may paint Janeway somewhat negatively but it's only in the 'character flaws and being wrong about things means you have#a chance to grow' way - as soon as B'Elanna shows her potential Janeway wants to encourage it#God B'Elanna's so pretty#I forgot Seska was on the bridge!#'many of your teachers thought you had the potential to be an outstanding officer' SOMEONE SHOULD HAVETOLD HEEEER!!!!!!!!#WHY DID NO ONE TELL HEEER!!!!!
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