#it’s just annoying when ppl act like their head canons are the only correct ones which granted ive only seem like once or twice with this
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roots-symphony · 3 days ago
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Unpopular opinion maybe, but I don’t really buy into the whole fuckboy agatha/turbo virgin Rio narrative. Like it’s fun to play around with, but I don’t think it’s as canon as some I’ve seen some ppl say. I think it’s just one of like many possible interpretations of what their dynamic could have been, and tbh I think we’re all sleeping on the funniest one. Let me explain:
Agatha fucks now, that’s super obvious but there’s also been like how many centuries between now and when she was younger/met Rio? Agatha grew up during a very puritanical time, in an isolated coven, with an abusive mother, could she have been sneaking and getting action/figuring herself out on the side? Definitely. But I feel like she would’ve been more focused on trying to sneak around and learn magic and (depending on just /how/ isolated the coven was, which the ones we saw her and Nicky go through ranged from super small family to a small-medium community) might have not been either a lot of options and/or the options there were would have been like difficult to do anything about. We don’t know when she meets Rio, but presumably not /too/ long after her attempted execution just based on when Nicky was born, so she definitely in this time could have come to an understanding of herself and her body, especially in regards to how she could use her ~feminine wiles~ to get by with her entire support system gone. But I feel like another way to look at it, is that while she may not have been able to experiment as a teenager, she definitely could have run into some inappropriate books while reading the magic books she also wasn’t allowed to read. That plus just probably the whole way sex and everything was viewed during that time, I feel like she could easily come up with some weird ideas about what sex even is.
And Rio has been around for like ever. Do you know how many humans probably died doing weird sex things?? Rio knows what sex is, but her view of it is probably super skewed. (Also, we don’t see Rio from a point before Agatha which is unfortunate because all her focus after agatha is like… /on/ agatha so we have no way of knowing if she had any curiosity regarding humanity or any of the things she saw. She definitely could have experimented in her long existence, we just don’t know. Which doesn’t really matter to this, I just want to point out that even that is up to interpretation and is based in canon literally just as much as virgin Rio [which is to say not at all])
Anyway I think we’re all missing the funniest way to read this, which is /both/ Agatha and Rio having wildly different and also just wrong ideas about what sex is/how it works, and just trying to figure it out together like the blind leading the blind with all their directions based around colors. Bonus in that Rio could probably say some buckwild shit and Agatha ‘fake it till you make it’ Harkness would probably be like ‘well yes, obviously that’s how you do it’
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joysmercer · 2 years ago
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How do you think Season 3 would've went down if Nina and Amber never left? (Would KT/Willow still show up? Would Peddie/Fabina still go through a breakup? Etc) Also, how do you think they would've played out the osirian/chosen one relationship? (I've always thought they would've revealed them to be related or something)
ok so someone asked this as a prompt ages ago and i’m stuck on it lmaooo (sorry) but to answer your questions directly/share what i have so far:
KT would still show up and stay in Anubis and willow would still be around but maybe not move in
i have an idea that would explain why nina left in canon and how she figured things out but hesitant to share it lmao but let's just say that nina does know of kt vaguely (but doesn't initially recognize her), though i haven't decided if kt knows of nina (in this universe)
patricia and eddie would still break up over the summer—I think they were heading that way at the end of season 2 itself and the breakup was actually really important to their future stability so we're going to keep it in.
things are pretty awkward between patricia and eddie for obvious reasons, and fabian and nina as well because that’s just how they are 
nina and eddie did spend some time together post-breakup though, with amber at one point; the latter posted a picture of the three of them in nyc so everyone knows they hung out
fabian’s jealous. so is patricia
eddie's vision about KT comes during amber's party (so a little later than in canon i think), except it's nina who gets it instead…as she's walking down the stairs…and eddie's in the living room but gets a Sense and dashes outside to catch her just as she's about to faint.
fabian finds them leaning against eddie's bed and she has a headache and resting against his shoulder and because fabian’s already wary of them, he immediately thinks the worst. things get a little crazy.
anyway this happens…
i don't think nina and eddie would be related (unless very distantly). their relationship would be like that of cousins who are the same age and constantly compared to each other but also good friends.
everyone just expects them both to always know what to do and i feel like, at least in the beginning, they'd be convinced the other is better as a sibuna leader than they are, and that would cause tension. nina in particular would probably chafe under eddie's direction when he takes the lead on something (because she's so used to doing things a certain way).
however, they also have a close connection (both supernaturally and as friends) and they'd definitely grow closer over the season—i anticipate it becoming kinda how eddie and kt are in canon; i do think the 3 of them in this au would band together not just because they're outsiders but because they all have a weird connection to the house that the others don't and an innate trust for each other because of it
nina would become the first sinner (or ig second counting victor) instead of patricia. patricia immediately gets super protective over eddie after this happens for Reasons and he gets annoyed lowkey.
also jerome and joy are briefed on the Sinner situation after this and joy immediately institutes a buddy system so no one's alone to be taken/there are always ppl around to manage high emotions before denby can grab the offending person
someone pls correct me if I'm wrong but i don't think there was a way to bring the sinners back except for reawakening ammut? so then they're like. shit. and buddy system goes away to maximize their chances of awakening ammut quickly, except, again, for peddie because under no circumstances can eddie get taken (again, for Reasons)
regardless of whether or not that^ is true, other students are also targetted too in this au so maybe only 1 other sibuna member is taken in the end
nina and amber end up in a similar state as fabian/mara do at the end of s3 in canon (like openly flirty but not together u know). i currently dont think either of them act on anything until grad/after grad but this might change akfsjl
but also im just generally debating namber vs fabina endgame so who even knows.
like i said this is very preliminary but if you have more specific questions feel free to ask! it'll help me figure things out too and i love this au so much so id love to answer :)
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papers4me · 3 years ago
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Fruits Basket Manga Review (ch 90-91)
Since I discussed the first few pages of ch-90 that contains kyo & tohru in my previous preview, this one will only be kyoko’s story.
Kyoko’s story brilliantly explores the effects of unhealthy domestic environment on children without the use of the zodiac curse as a metaphor for abuse. My first-reaction of kyoko’s story is the following:
I really enjoyed how kyoko’s descend into darkness was explored & how the psychologically-informed writing of her behavior was depicted.
I was troubled by how Katsuya was presented as the magical solution to all her problems. Kyoko was saved by romantic love in a more basic writing than machi. Both girls just needed a guy to listen to them vent abt their family issues once & tada~ they’re in love.
Kyoko’s story made me realize that Arisa is just a more modern & healthier kyoko.. The only difference is that Kureno didn’t save Arisa. She herself changed gradually due to kyoko & tohru’s influence.
1) Kyoko’s descend into Darkness:
Kyokyo told kyo that she was already “out of control delinquent before she got to middle school”, “ fell into the wrong crowd”, “ enjoyed beating innocent ppl”. subtly citing the influence of “delinquent peers” & the innate desire be noticed at home. I’m bad, notice me! love me, listen to me!
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There are some elements in her story that faintly reminds me of yuki & strongly reminds me of kyo:
Kyoko’s parents gave her a treatment similar to “ yuki’s parents”: cold, neglect & devoid of love. Her dad, similar to kyo’s dad, felt ashamed & disgraced by her.
Kyoko similarly to kyo was angry, full of self-loath & self-destruction. However, kyo was never violent like she was. I believe kyo’d have turned like her if he didn’t have Kazuma to discipline him with love, care & attention. Hence, we saw kyo carry on a code of “ not beating girls, or ppl who aren’t hurting them, or don’t know martial arts”, like Arisa or the student council guy whop loves yuki.
Kyoko’s mom similarly of kyo’s mom talked abt the dad venting his anger on her after being pissed off with kyoko. So, a hint of domestic violence between husband & wife.
Kyoko described herself as “ made of shattered glass”. Tohru once said both kyo & yuki are very sensitive. yuki blocks the world behind the prince mask & kyo puts on the annoyed attitude to push ppl away from hurting him.
Society thinks that “delinquent/bad ppl” are always happy with what they’ve become. Satisfied with their destructive choices. When in most of the times... they’re as bewildered & confused as the community around them..
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I really don’t blame the teachers for being defensive. Teachers aren’t supposed to be “life-coaches” or “saviors of students”. That’s sth the educators with their research gush abt & what society demands & what families wish for. The fixer-teacher!!!! Teachers are ppl teaching a subject, doing a specific job, underpaid & overworked most of the times, also, they come from various backgrounds, beliefs, & sometimes even if they meant good & wanted to “ save” a student, they aren’t equipped with the suitable psychological training. Yeah, there are ppl for that in schools, but so many students with lots of issues. Also, let’s be real, we love kyoko cuz she’s the “epic mother of tohru, we grew on her teachings thro out 3 seasons” but if you meet a loud, delinquent, gangster head, violent chair throwing student who rarely comes anyway, would you wanna deal with them?
2- Katsuya “ the magical savior”:
so, why did teacher katsuya helped a screaming delinquent? cuz he IS interested in kyoko. He said so. He approached her, talked & tried to help cuz he intended to “never let her go since he saw her honesty” ~ romantic? maybe to some.. I find it weird & creepy. him eyeing her & getting interested & approaching her & earning her trust. It is true that he has no intention of hurting her or forcing her & he DID save her in more ways than one. But why is this all wrapped in romance. He DID flirt with her intentionally many times from the moment he saw her until then.
If Im being honest, had he not be her teacher (trainee or not), & had she not be very veeeeery young! I’d be enjoying his flirting so much. He’s so smooth, playful & cool (not looking head over heels in love) which is normally such a fun dynamics. She was so head over heels, tho. Finally found someone who noticed her tiny efforts “ drawing eyebrows”, someone who listened & someone who didn’t forced her to do her “duties”. She tells him (her teacher) that she is ditching classes & he’s okay with that~ not lecturing, not urging. why? cuz He only wants HER. she comes to see him in the lunch break everyday. school? classes? that’s her choice~ not his business~ In a way, Katsuya is intentionally made not morally correct. Why? cuz a good moral adult wouldn’t be in love with a middle schooler & would care for her future as an independent person from him. He must be written with intentional desire to NOT care for morals or right or the likes. Yes, he later helps her to study & graduate but ONLY when that is HER choice & she made it ONLY to catch up with him. To cleanse herself & be “ like the other girls” . Kyoko deemed katsuya “ good person” &  herself “ bad person”. That’s why she was motivated to be good to catch up with him since she can NO LONGER see him everyday in lunch break. He fixed that. How? teach her in the weekends & provide better chances to flirt since he’s no longer a teacher & she’s his student. The issue is not teacher-student love... it is adult-kid love!! but hey~ they’re cute (they’re written to be, so they are) so it’s cool ( it isn’t at all..eww).. oh the dilemma that is Takaya-san’s love for weird big age gaps where one is an underage teenager...
Furuba’s has this big theme of “ love doesn’t heal or save”. yuki took tohru’s love & grew up by himself. Kyo’s love for tohru didn’t save tohru, she was scared to be in love & forget her mom. Tohru made the decision to be free from her past, herself.  Tohru’s love to kyo made his trauma 10 times more complicated & he acted based on his love for her & decided to leave her. It wasnt until he decided to face his trauma, past & bio dad by himself, that he accepted tohru’s love. Only two characters were totally saved by love:
Machi: has the excuse of being solely created to be yuki’s reward for acknowledging platonic love for tohru & everything abt her is rushed & made as a lighter copy of all yuki’s issues to quickly create shared grounds for them to connect. Machi needed to vent her issues to yuki once & all her issues were never brought back to the service again. She was happier, calmer & healed.
I expected more for kyoko. She IS a bigger character than half of the zodiacs! but she just needed katsuya to listen to her & she was in love & her issues solved.
I don’t deny that it IS true that sometimes all we need is someone to listen to us. Tohru herself said so & even yuki said it to kyo. But Even if someone listen to us & we love them, the issues that troubled us dont magically disappear until we face them or do sth abt them aided by those who love us. Kyo’s issues remained even with his love until he faced them, tohru’s too!
Katsuya:
had off-screen issues with expressing himself. He said that he loved kyoko cuz she was “honest abt her ugly feelings” while he pretended to “humor & please his dad”. He gave a wonderful speech to her parents abt the expectations of parents on their kids & the refusal of their “human weakness” again furuba’s main vision. Unfortunately, this was followed with confessing, marriage proposal & kissing her on the lips all while the whole issue is abt kids/ parents exceptions of middle schooler/ neglect & his own acknowledgement that she’s minor while he was “in love”.
Like the author wants to tie kyoko’s issues & katsuya’s issues so bad & present him as her ONLY chance for normal life. Kyoko was just repenting & understanding that her actions got consequences which is an epic moment! but romance triumphant & saved the day~ yay~! marriage!
The story would’ve been better romantically if it was given time for kyoko to “ grow up” just like katsuya himself said when they were at the beach. He said “ grow up, middle school is not the world”. He continued meeting her but never confessed & never crossed the line despite the flirting. But he KNEW what he was doing “ i never planned to let you go since I saw you”. He was cementing his place as the ONLY one in her world.
Had kyoko grew up, saw the real world, kept taps with katsuya, he helped her broaden her world, then they’ll marry without needing her dad to sign papers, then that would be a better love story than this.
Side Notes:
The writer didn’t shy away from confessing that pairing Katsuya & kyoko is problematic & stated it in canon (kyoko called katsuya “pedo”). She did the same with Arisa & kureno (Arisa thought the age gap is big & hana questioned if kureno is a married man). However, making the story acknowledge that as an issues doesn’t make it less uncomfortable, but at least, I respect when writers do what they plan to do regardless of fans. even if I dont agree with the writer. It’s way better than when writer becoming fans toy/ fans pleaser.
Still, couldn’t the author state that kyoko was held back few years in jmiddle school & failed & repeated school years? like make her i duno 17 or sth... this would at least lessen the big age gap... but no~~~ kyoko is what? 14? ... -_-’.
You bet this won’t change a bit in the upcoming anime spinoff abt kyoko. Just this year an anime abt an adult man & his high school love interest that he pursued stubbornly was highly popular & my real life friends were gushing abt “ him finally winning her/ being respectful & only kissing her lips once or sth/waiting for her to “catch up” with him”/ consent age differ in X & Y countries..I’m not dictating my beliefs on anybody or any country or saying my way of thinking is the just way. I’m saying, Personally, I think, there are better romantic stories than adults & kids couples.. The fact that this trope of (adults & kids romance) is still popular even today is sad~~
I dont mind HUGE age gaps as long as BOTH characters are adults. If any of them makes a crime, they’ll be held responsible by the law. & sometimes the younger adult is the one dominating the relationship. but “kids or teenagers” can’t. They’re easily groomed & manipulated, so it bothers me when a love story between an adult & a kid is portrayed as  “equal”. it isn’t.
I’m not judging whoever loves such trope in “ fiction”. it IS fiction, & as long as you don't pursue a real kid/teenager in real life, you can like whatever in fiction. moving on~
kyoko’s delinquent life is well-written & if done right, would send a powerful message of being able to start over. But the romantic love aspect will steal the spotlight by (a) directing uncomfortable hate/disgust towards the story & hence all the discussions will abt the “pedo” aspect. (which is fair). (b) Perceived as so lovable romance since katsuya is the prince who to saved the neglected princess which is a trope that has stood thro time garnering lots of support & attention always, so all the discussion would be abt their “cute romance”. (which is fair since the author weaved elements that endeared their romance, such as: cute nicknames “miss no-eyebrows”, him giving her space, home & respect, saving her from the streets & poverty & having the most endearing tohru”. So, yeah, the romance will be the center of attention regardless.
I like katsuya’s character type in fiction generally: the flirty, mischievous & a bit cool guy who is so aware he’s wrong most times & plays his cards smart to not get caught red-handed. He’s a cooler version of shigure. It’s just the blatant fact that he’s been planning to “get” a middle schooler from the first glance & that she is wayyyy young for this, that is bothering me so so much~~ T_T.
I wont expect the anime to change their age gap cuz it is the essence of their story that she’s a lost kid with no protection against the world & he’s the savior providing everything at once!~ Remember kyoko went on to be the savior of an entire clan tho tohru~ So in a way, katsuya saved the sohmas by saving kyoko....
“ i’m like a stray cat that he looked after instead of chasing away”. kyoko with katsuya is like kyo with kazuma! >_<!. When kyo met tohru, he wasn’t a stray cat, most of how he dealt with her was cuz he already knew her & was tormented by remembering kyoko’s death & feeling guilty towards tohru’s constant pain. That’s why when kyo started falling in love with tohru, he unconsciously stopped pushing her away little by little & just wanted to be with her until akito said “ i’ll hurt her” that’s when he totally gave up.
the way katsiya appeared in the right moment to save kyoko from her dad~ oh the drama. XD
Hospital Discharge & chase. like mom like daughter~ but thank God the kids got a more balanced love story.
Comparing kyoko/katsuya to Arisa/kureno in the broad writing of their romance without diving into details: (a) I hate the age gap in both but at least Arisa is older & nothing happened until she graduates & become an official adult. (b) Kyoko/katsuya are more fleshed out & if you forget the age gap,m their dynamic is so cute & endearing. (c) the love at first glance, never meeting afterwards yet still sickly in love to the extinct of screaming made Arisa/kureno shallower. (d) now that I saw teenage kyoko, Arisa is really just her clone! I hate that this steals from Arisa’s uniqueness. (e) both couples ate ramen in their first meeting/first unofficial date signalling their blooming love.
I’ve said this more than once, but I was the high-schooler that fancied adult independent men growing up, I never pursued anyone tho cuz I understood it was a crush even tho I’m pretty sure my “ *_*” face was clear to one or two, but I’m definitely lucky none of them tried to woo me or influence me. Now that I’m a grown woman, I think back & laugh at my self. I fancied them cuz they were independent & mature compared to the silly high school boys, which is what those men are supposed to be (adults) & what those boys are supposed to be (living their young age). lol. Still, I wish I found someone somehow to be my life’s partner since then, it would’ve made my life less lonely~ T_T.
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kaypeace21 · 4 years ago
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Are you actually one of those people who think that "they are right about everything" and that you are "100% sure that every single one of your theories is going to be canon" or do you just make theories/analysis and HOPE they might happen 🤔 bcs i think a lot of ppl are convinced you are "entitled" and hate on you for it ://
I don’t think every theory I have will be correct. But it's not merely based on what i "hope" for, either. Its based on the text within the show. I literally already answered this EXACT SAME question like... a year ago where i LITERALLY said in BOLD FONT . 
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But do I (personally)  believe Will has powers. And that byler is endgame. Yes. You don’t have to. I could be wrong- i just think at the moment it's what makes the most sense (to me). You don’t have to believe it, though. I also think a lot of the established pairings- mileven, lumax, jancy, and jopper aren’t endgame based on the evidence in the show. But, I could only be partially right/wrong and some make it- who knows.  The show isn’t over yet- we all have to wait and see. I write theories- cause I’M NOT AFRAID TO BE WRONG.
I do theories based on what I think may happen based on where I believe the evidence leads (not what I hope for) -otherwise it’s not a theory! What you hope for-is just a head canon. Maybe cause I’m in stem- I don’t believe in working backwards from any conclusion and calling it a ‘theory’. I’ve already talked about this too in multiple posts cause people get angry assuming I do. I have theories about s4-5,  some of which I don’t even want, that I think will happen. It has little to do with what I hope for! 
But , these people just hate on me cause I have theories that aren’t conventional.” No one ever gets hate for being overly confident jopper/mileven/jancy is endgame. Bylers don’t go around telling milevens “you should write MAYBE mileven is endgame since the show is not over yet “ on every mileven post talking about mileven being endgame. But some milevens get angry if we don’t insert the word “maybe” in every pro byler post. The double standard is annoying. We have the right to our opinion and so do you. Maybe just stop policing what everyone says . I’ve made it clear they’re theories. Am I’m confident in some of them- yeah. And? I’m not saying you have to be! I usually state “i think xyz will happen” or “maybe this will occur” . But, at the end of the day, who cares what I think- at least I enjoy analyzing the show on a deeper level than most. Everyone is entitled to analyzing a show and coming to their own conclusions . Why don’t they write 20+ paragraph analyses about what they think the show is symbolizing (using textual evidence)- before s**ting on my DID psych/narrative theory they never even bothered to read before disagreeing and saying it’s “nonsense” and i’m “delusional”and “need psychiatric help”. If they think they can do soooo much better why don’t they write theories? Or do analyses? Instead of just complaining/insulting all the st people who do 😂
Like...It’s just funny . That st non-theorists will make fun of st theorists - when they themselves contribute literally nothing to the fandom except insulting others for their theories/scene analyses. Like... all they do for the fandom is complain about others in the fandom. And try to thought-police others. But they act so high and mighty for -what? Not analyzing a show? And taking everything at the superficial level? Something that takes literally no effort to do? It takes more effort & courage to make bold theories about a show(and be wrong) vs just doing nothing. I write theories- cause I’M NOT AFRAID TO BE WRONG. Plus, no one thinks it’s cool or edgy to make fun of others’ hobbies .😂
I don’t think every theory I’ll have will necessarily end up being right (that’s just statistics) - they didn’t give us movies before s3 (like they’re doing for s4) but I thought murray was a Russian spy after s2 cause he had a Russian gas mask in his house in s2. And in s3 he wasn’t a spy but just knew Russian. I thought based on s2 foreshadowing on Halloween -Hopper would die in s3- but even in s3 when I saw him ‘die’ I thought it was likely he’d come back. So again partially correct. I thought maybe the byers would move to Chicago cause of how many times it’s referenced in movies/in the show in relation to the byers- but they prob just gave the Chicago ref to Kali . Before s3 I thought Mike was bi-now I think he’s just gay and comp het (we won’t know that answer until the show is done).I don’t think it’s possible to be right about every theory! Especially because I’ll be writing a whole post about what I think s4-5 will entail (which will have a lot of theories/details that could be slightly off /wrong). I’ve purposely postponed writing it so I could watch as many st films as possible- cause my theories evolve /change with every new film I watched. I literally addressed this all ...a year ago. 2 Pics from post I first linked😂
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Regardless, of what I say... these people make stuff up to try and cancel me/hate me over.They’ve already tried like 4 times to cancel me over various lies they made up about me. This is just cause of stupid ship wars, more than anything , sadly . So no , I’m not going to be dictated to and change my blog for people who hate me and 90% of the time don’t actually read my work (and claim they read , I said “insert random lie here”) anyways. You can’t cater to everyone-that’s life . They can just ignore/block me. I don’t cross tag my posts. They’re not my audience . Not that hard. I’m a theorist- I believe I can be wrong. Whether you love or hate me -you don’t have to believe all my theories. End of discussion XD
Update: As @strangertheory ironically and truthfully said in response to this post “if you have a theory that is STRANGE in the stranger things fandom- expect a lot of hate mail.”
Can’t be closer to the truth honestly. That’s a warning to anyone new planning to start theorizing about st. You have to toughen up and deal with hate/bullying in the st fandom when you don’t agree with the majority -that’s just how it works, sadly😂
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lenaluthorgays-blog · 3 days ago
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This is exactly how I view them in the beginning, Puritan!Agatha with a misconstrued perception of sex wanting to impress Death who probably has weird rituals and what not
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Unpopular opinion maybe, but I don’t really buy into the whole fuckboy agatha/turbo virgin Rio narrative. Like it’s fun to play around with, but I don’t think it’s as canon as some I’ve seen some ppl say. I think it’s just one of like many possible interpretations of what their dynamic could have been, and tbh I think we’re all sleeping on the funniest one. Let me explain:
Agatha fucks now, that’s super obvious but there’s also been like how many centuries between now and when she was younger/met Rio? Agatha grew up during a very puritanical time, in an isolated coven, with an abusive mother, could she have been sneaking and getting action/figuring herself out on the side? Definitely. But I feel like she would’ve been more focused on trying to sneak around and learn magic and (depending on just /how/ isolated the coven was, which the ones we saw her and Nicky go through ranged from super small family to a small-medium community) might have not been either a lot of options and/or the options there were would have been like difficult to do anything about. We don’t know when she meets Rio, but presumably not /too/ long after her attempted execution just based on when Nicky was born, so she definitely in this time could have come to an understanding of herself and her body, especially in regards to how she could use her ~feminine wiles~ to get by with her entire support system gone. But I feel like another way to look at it, is that while she may not have been able to experiment as a teenager, she definitely could have run into some inappropriate books while reading the magic books she also wasn’t allowed to read. That plus just probably the whole way sex and everything was viewed during that time, I feel like she could easily come up with some weird ideas about what sex even is.
And Rio has been around for like ever. Do you know how many humans probably died doing weird sex things?? Rio knows what sex is, but her view of it is probably super skewed. (Also, we don’t see Rio from a point before Agatha which is unfortunate because all her focus after agatha is like… /on/ agatha so we have no way of knowing if she had any curiosity regarding humanity or any of the things she saw. She definitely could have experimented in her long existence, we just don’t know. Which doesn’t really matter to this, I just want to point out that even that is up to interpretation and is based in canon literally just as much as virgin Rio [which is to say not at all])
Anyway I think we’re all missing the funniest way to read this, which is /both/ Agatha and Rio having wildly different and also just wrong ideas about what sex is/how it works, and just trying to figure it out together like the blind leading the blind with all their directions based around colors. Bonus in that Rio could probably say some buckwild shit and Agatha ‘fake it till you make it’ Harkness would probably be like ‘well yes, obviously that’s how you do it’
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