#it’s ALL robert’s fault in the end 🙄

[bobbie-robron]

But, honestly, dad, I wouldn’t lie to ya. I have never laid a finger on that woman. (Part 2.2)

In this final part, Katie bemoans to Andy how Robert ruined things for her especially on her wedding day and for things to end as they did (um, it takes two to tango and the feelings were real between BOTH of them; it’s the producers changing the motivations). Katie sees it all as karma, she ruined someone’s life so why would she end up happy? Katie regretting walking out on Andy. Robert continues to weave his own version of things to Jack and Diane but Jack warns Robert, he’ll have hell to pay… by HIM! In the end, Andy winds up cheating on his current girlfriend with Katie.

10-May-2005

[robertphilip]

you’ve definitely touched on this before but i started thinking about it for my kiddos so i thought i’d ask: how did morgan and sofia feel about being held when they were babies to toddlers? like on the scale of super clingy NEEDING to be held or they’ll die, to being strong independent women who don’t need no snuggles (except when things are scawee🥺). AND how did it shift as they got older? (i.e. holding parents’ hands, sitting on laps, etc)

oh gosh, as babies/toddlers they were both so clingy, I just know it.

I think with Morgan, she always wanted to be held (specifically by Robert and only Robert, which drove his ex-wife insane because she'd cry for hours and hours until he got home. but hey, it's not his fault Morgan can tell you don't wanna be here 🙄 ANYWAYYY) Robert was carrying her everywhere, and he really loved it !! he also probably did it for longer than most people would, but like, it's his baby, ya know? what's he supposed to do, make her walk ?? that's just sick :/

Morgan also always wanted to hold hands, and ages ago, I actually wrote a fic that was like. a "missing scene" thing where Robert and Giselle pick Morgan up from school after their adventure in Central Park, and she excitedly holds both their hands, and Robert's like, "aha uhhh why is my heart fluttering in my chest right now haha"

with holding hands though, I think as she got older, she'd do that less and less, and instead link her arm with Giselle's. and she'll say it's because "my mom's just so clingy 🙄" but deep down she actually wants to, and will slide her arm through Giselle's unprompted, she's just too huffy to admit it.

Morgan was suuuuuch a cuddle bug as a baby, and Robert ate it UP. he loved laying with her on his chest, or curled up against his side, and most of his nights were spent cuddling on the couch while he worked (or watched tv). and I think that continued for quite awhile! Robert would often come home to Giselle and Morgan snuggled up on the couch (or in their bed, like my most recent fic) Like with hand holding, I think as she gets older, it happens less and less, but it never stops entirely. Morgan will usually rest her head on one of their shoulders while they watch a movie, and they both really cherish that because it doesn't happen as often anymore.

now Sofia,,, I just learned the term "velcro baby" and that.. that's 100% Sofia.

Robert and Giselle could Not put her down or she would start crying, and they're not the kind of people who participate in the "cry it out" method, so they would just simply pick her back up, and hold her for however long she needs to be held. she's just. the clingiest little thing. they both end up getting slings so they can do other things while still carrying her, and ough,,, they're literally always wearing them.

and that need to be held does not go away. Sofia still asks to be carried when she's a teenager, and Robert's poor body is suffering, but he let's her ride on his back all the time, and she loves it. he often jokes that, if she ever gets married, he'll probably end up carrying her down the aisle instead of walking.

hand holding, cuddling, and kisses, those never stop with Sofia either. she walks up behind them while they're cooking and hugs them from behind, or rests her chin on their shoulder, or lays down on the couch with them on a daily basis.

I remember writing a fic about how Giselle worried that Sofia might grow out of being so cuddly, the way Morgan sort of did, but she truly has nothing to worry about cause that's her velcro baby For Life.

[destinyc1020]

https://www.tiktok.com/@momopeach02/video/7182708340227657002

Welp i remember this where Kaias role was open to all actors bt somehow it went to the model with connections 🙄 the role changed cuz she ended up just kissing the asian actress in Babylon and maybe had about 3 minutes of screentime, none of which she spoke lmao.

I remember somebody on reddit (so obviously take it with a grain of salt lol) saying they worked on AHS and said ppl had to cut certain longer monologues cuz they realized she culdnt deliver them... i mean just kinda embarrazing overall tbh. Of course certain actors n directors (Ryan murphy who gave her the AHS role n her future costar laura dern whose her moms friend) goin 2 give her roles and praise her bt smaller actors n BTS crew members b honest with it (again IF those 2 claims r true)

Oh wow.... those actresses in the comments section are spilling some TEA! 🍵 🤣😅

Tbh, I'm not surprised if this happens a lot in the industry.

I kinda feel bad for the real actors who work hard to get even just a smidgen of work, and then see a role they auditioned for go to a less-talented actor who got the role mainly due to connections or nepotism. 🥴 👀

I remember somebody on reddit (so obviously take it with a grain of salt lol) saying they worked on AHS and said ppl had to cut certain longer monologues cuz they realized she culdnt deliver them... i mean just kinda embarrazing overall tbh. Of course certain actors n directors (Ryan murphy who gave her the AHS role n her future costar laura dern whose her moms friend) goin 2 give her roles and praise her bt smaller actors n BTS crew members b honest with it (again IF those 2 claims r true)

Oh wow.... 😵‍💫🫣

I mean......

Acting is harder than it LOOKS lol.... 😅

Just so nobody is confused, I'm not AGAINST nepotism.... Some of my favorite actors are "NepoBabys".... Drew Barrymore, Angelina Jolie, George Clooney, Lily Collins, Rashida Jones, Timothée Chalamet, Jennifer Aniston, Zoe Kravitz, Liv Tyler, Scott Eastwood, Robert Downey Jr, Dan Levy, Gwyneth Paltrow, Tracee Ellis Ross, Bryce Dallas Howard, John David Washington, Jamie Lee Curtis, etc.

The list goes on and on.... Hollywood is literally FULL of "nepobabies" lol 😆 😂

I don't care if you had famous parents or famous siblings, etc... MY thing is, are you at least TALENTED and working at improving your craft? Or are you just out here taking work from better actors simply because everyone knows your mom or dad in the industry? 🤔

As long as you're a talented NepoBaby, I honestly don't care too much lol. But when I see some who are just given roles just simply because they have famous parents, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. 😖

I know it's not THEIR fault.... it's whoever is doing the hiring. But it still doesn't change the fact that it doesn't really seem all that fair to those who struggle out here to try to "make it", and it takes years upon years, and yet, others are given the open door automatically. 👀

[bobbie-robron]

Just as long as you’re all right, that’s all that matters ❤️

In the second part, there’s gonna be repurcussions a coming for both Chelsea and Donna after Robert’s beating while Sarah is mama bear ❤️ (gah, why couldn’t the show do another recast but kill her off in two years’ time).

Scene 5: Andy comes rushing to get Rachel and Graham (‘quick miss, Robert’s getting beaten up’). (If this was years or decades later, would Andy have gone for help?)

Scene 6: Rachel and Graham are tending to a badly bruised Robert (precursor to the future unfortunately) with Graham set to take him to hospital ‘just to be on the safe side’. As for the nasty duo, Chelsea doesn’t care an iota even if she and Donna get suspended they ‘can spend all day together, going to Leeds or summit. It’ll be great’. But it appears Donna has done an about face. In any case, both are to be taken home to their parents.

Donna: I’m not going nowhere with you!

Chelsea: You what?

Donna: YOU heard. Just keep away from me! I don’t want anything more to DO with you!

Scene 7: Rachel has taken Donna home and obviously Viv knows the ‘very serious fight’ involved ‘the Sugden boys’ even though she ‘only warned him this morning’ (more like threatened). Viv wants ‘that lad’ excluded for good. Donna tells her it was her fault but Viv is still ‘we all know whose fault it was’. 🙄

Donna: Mum, it wasn’t his fault!

Viv: You expect me to believe that after what he did to you?

Donna: Yes, it was my fault! And I’m really, really sorry.

Scene 8: Robert is assuring Sarah he’s okay. Sarah is kicking herself for not intervening sooner (if she’d known). Graham tells Sarah the Deputy Head is seeing Viv the next day and the incident is being looked at seriously. In the end, Sarah is just happy Robert is all right❤️.

Sarah: The school should have been aware of this bullying before it started.

Graham: It’s not always that easy to pick up on it.

Sarah: Well maybe you should look at where the school went wrong because as a parent, I’m not happy about it.

03-Nov-1998 part 2 of 2

Part 1

[bobbie-robron]

I don't think Jack would be happy to know Andy hit Jo. I think he would had been disappointed and surprised as the same time. The guy wasn't the greatest father for Robert but he had values. I do believe he would had been disappointed and shocked if he knew about that. At least, I hope.

And if Jack was still around, they’d probably would have tried to turn it around in any way possible to make it Robert’s fault even though he wasn’t around at the time (there’s only one son that is to be always the disappointment not both). But in the end, Andy still went against what Jack thought was wrong and when all is said and done, it’s not brought up is it? It’s in the past 🙄.